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Re: Display VDS 215 MDS - nav table A54

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Arno,

that is a good idea!
Thus I would really appreciate your help for the supplier and a short description of the steps required when changing the display.

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #199 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


mounting 12" chart plotter

Eloi Bamberg
 

Hi,
How did you mount and connect your chart plotter in the cockpit. I wanted to mount mine (Zeus 3s 12") in a Pod to secure it from theft, but i found it much to high (no more visibility over it), so i mounted it with the original mounting bracket behind the autopilot command. Does anybody have an idea how to protect it from theft other than removing it after navigation? Having 4 cables attached to it, i want to resolder those into one plug (to pass through the hull) if i have to remove it after each navigation but i am not sure whether it is possible to assemble power, nmea and ethernet into one plug without interferences. 

regards,

Eloi,
SM2K 426 RedLion


Re: solar panel

Juan de Zulueta
 

Hello Nick,

We will be in the marina from Friday evening since we will haul out in Tyrell bay marina on the 31st.
We indeed were diving yesterday and I was really great.
Hope we can meet before we go back Europe for hurricane season.

Juan de Zulueta
+33680895892
sent from my Ipad.

Le 21 mai 2021 à 17:29, Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal@...> a écrit :


Juan, 

Yes, I’m heading back up there I hope on Saturday (week tomorrow)  and will be there for a few weeks at least. 

Let me know your plans and hopefully we can meet up. 

How was the dive yesterday ? Was it you that went past me in the Dingy as I was getting ready to head off ? 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 
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On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:59 PM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: solar panel

Dean Gillies
 

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 10:44 AM, Chris Doucette wrote:
have a single Victron Mulit 3kw and my goal is to have two of them for redundancy
Chris,
This is the path I am going down too.  I will install one MP 3000 when I upgrade my system this year, and then think about whether I need/want a second one after I am using the system. Like many 54's my boat has a 24VDC water-maker mode. I almost never make water with 230VAC, and only then its just to give the 230V mode a workout. So maybe the 3000 is enough for me, time will tell!  A single MP3000 also helps ease the port/stbd balance problem when changing from all-lead to mostly-lithium batteries.
Dean
SV Stella A54-154 


Re: solar panel

Chris Doucette
 

Also a note here- I am running lithium 400ah /24v and have a single Victron Mulit 3kw and my goal is to have two of them for redundancy-  another way to look at it if you can find a home for two.  

Chris
Amarok Sm385

On May 21, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal@...> wrote:


Juan, 

Yes, I’m heading back up there I hope on Saturday (week tomorrow)  and will be there for a few weeks at least. 

Let me know your plans and hopefully we can meet up. 

How was the dive yesterday ? Was it you that went past me in the Dingy as I was getting ready to head off ? 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:59 PM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: solar panel

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal <svrascal@...>
 

Juan, 

Yes, I’m heading back up there I hope on Saturday (week tomorrow)  and will be there for a few weeks at least. 

Let me know your plans and hopefully we can meet up. 

How was the dive yesterday ? Was it you that went past me in the Dingy as I was getting ready to head off ? 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:59 PM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: solar panel

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal <svrascal@...>
 

Scott,

I have two Solbian SR+ 240 on the Bimini. It’s a love hate thing with them and the Bimini. The Bimini was made in Antigua and sadly not well. On top of that The panels weigh enough to cause sag and chafe. I’ve had the Bimini adapted here in Grenada to support the weight. I have attached a few photos which I hope illustrate this, if not let me know and I will send some more. 

Worth noting that my Bimini is pretty much fixed in place. Taking it down for repairs etc is pretty time consuming and complex process as it now has four stainless bars running front to back holding the panels and these bars are hidden in pockets . I hope the pictures help illustrate this. Let me know if you would like more. 

I ran the cables through pockets stitched into the bimini so they are protected from main sheet/ sun etc , down the stb side Bimini and into the area where the winch circuit breakers are housed on the SM, which is above the pilot berth. From there the cables run direct to the Victron MPPT which, along with the two other MPPT’s are housed next to the nav station, taking over the wet gear hanging area, if that makes sense. I don’t know 54’s that well so this may not make sense. This puts the MPPTs a very short distance from the main battery bank. All the solar and wind MPPTs are isolated with circuit breakers between the panels / silent wind and their respective MPPT and then again between the MPPT and the batteries. 

The Solbian  panels were fearsomely expensive when compared to the LG’s and other Brand’s of semi flexible, but they work,  are apparently very efficient and so far I haven’t had any of the overheating issues I have read about on other semi flex panels. I do feel better now knowing they are very well supported and ventilated after revising the Bimini. On anchor I move the main boom away from the panels to avoid shade. I can’t do much with regards the masts ! 

I think you are spot on with the 3km vs 5Kw. I have looked up changing mine, but haven’t yet. My experience is that with 600amH of lithium used for everything (cooking etc) on anchor I have to dial back in what I’m using. For example oven and two rings is about ok, if the immersion is on, that’s too much. The water maker is the “problem”. I know I can get 30mins before it cuts out, so I tend to do short daily runs, and then once a week fire  up the genset and top up tanks and batteries if I need. 

I’ve looked at the 5Kw as a solution, and it’s a tight fit in my engine bay, unless I remove the MasterVolt 100amp charger, which I am loathe to do right now. However I have also read that the 5Kw when being used heavily doesn’t like poorly ventilated areas. I think from my experience that’s also true of the 3KW which may actually be my real problem when just using Water maker alone. It’s such a constant draw, whereas the galley equipment  alternates much more than the WM, so in my simplistic mind gives the Quattro a rest and allows some cooling down.  My sense is that unless I move the Quattro, even with a 5Kw I am likely to have overheating issues. I’m not an expert on this, just seems logical to me and would be an expensive experiment. 

I don’t have a compressor on board, but I’m doing more diving than I thought and have started looking at models and where to possibly mount it. I like where it’s supposed to go on the SM , but putting it there means I have to play musical chairs with a lot of other things. With a compressor I would have to solve the Quattro size and overheat issue beforehand. 

Hope this helps. 

Nick 
SV Rascal
SM404
 🇬🇩 

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On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:41 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: House Bank vs. Engine Start

Mark Garver
 

Bill and Bill,

I completely agree. I already discovered the bonding straps that had been cut and have the new copper to run down to the bilge and will have to run new bonding wires because they were cut short.

I’m currently for the summer in the lower Chesapeake Bay, Gloucester Point. Don’t know of any electricians here that are familiar with Amel’s. I may need to check either Delta illegal or Annapolis.

Do you know of any around the Chesapeake?

I have already been ripping out all of the left over wiring from the nav equipment replacement... he went with Ray Marine, instead of B&G which I wasn’t impressed with. 

Thanks everyone, now to get the electrician!

Best,

Mark Garver
S/V It’s Good
SM #105


On May 21, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:

Mark,

Echoing Bill Rouse's comments...  

In an Amel with standard wiring, the connection of shore power would have nothing what ever to do with the engine starting--or not.  Also, in a boat with Amel standard wiring, the state of the 24 Volt system is not at all connected with the ability of the engine to start, or to run.

Based on your description of the symptoms you observe, it would seem your wring has been changed in significant ways.  Without knowing HOW your system has been changed, it is virtually impossible to offer specific advice.

I think you are probably right to be concerned that things are not as they should be, but without knowing how your batteries and engine are wired I am not sure how we can help remotely.

Are you located in a place you can get in contact with a marine electrician who is familiar with Amel systems?

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL


Re: House Bank vs. Engine Start

Bill Kinney
 

Mark,

Echoing Bill Rouse's comments...  

In an Amel with standard wiring, the connection of shore power would have nothing what ever to do with the engine starting--or not.  Also, in a boat with Amel standard wiring, the state of the 24 Volt system is not at all connected with the ability of the engine to start, or to run.

Based on your description of the symptoms you observe, it would seem your wring has been changed in significant ways.  Without knowing HOW your system has been changed, it is virtually impossible to offer specific advice.

I think you are probably right to be concerned that things are not as they should be, but without knowing how your batteries and engine are wired I am not sure how we can help remotely.

Are you located in a place you can get in contact with a marine electrician who is familiar with Amel systems?

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL


Re: House Bank vs. Engine Start

Mark Garver
 

Bill,

The PO replaced with a brand new Yanmar prior to our purchase. The house bank had multiple failed or weak batteries, wouldn’t maintain a charge although we had been a marina mostly. Of course before learning about running the generator when using the bow thruster I am sure we had taken a toll on them. Engine would start while connected to shore power, me starting it thinking I had turned shore power off. The next day we were departing and o disconnected shore power tried to start the motor and it would start for a second then stop nearly immediately. 

I also don’t have the switch that some seem to have on their SM’s to cut off the main bank. I do have a switch in the port locker but didn’t try that before replacing the house bank.

I just worry about having this happen somewhere at anchor and having to row!

Mark Garver
S/V It’s Good
SM #105


On May 20, 2021, at 11:31 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Mark,

SM 105 was repowered with a different main engine. I am not sure who did it, but this is probably one source of your problems. I believe that some serious wiring changes were made including the termination of Amel Bonding wires (yellow/green). Additionally, I assume that the new engine was NOT installed isolated and that there is also a crossover of 12 & 24 DC negative at the engine.

A review of your wiring needs to be done.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:
Mark,

This is an odd one...  Just by way of additional information, what was the nature of the failure of the main battery bank?  You have the original Volvo engine?

Bill Kinney
sm160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL


Re: solar panel

Juan de Zulueta
 

Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: solar panel

Scott SV Tengah
 

Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: solar panel

 

This may not be the case in any of the situations above where more energy is noted than rated values, but:

If when installing the solar panels if you connect the negative wire from the MPPT to the shunt or near the shunt, you will see erroneous energy reported. 

As you see below, this may be more of an issue with some SM owners who find an easy place to connect the negative input wire.
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:32 AM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
Here are a few more real data points from our two LG Neon2 335w panels on our solar arch. 

649KW produced over ~210 days from Oct 2 - 21 May.  = 2.82 kw/day. We did not get above 3Kw/day until we reached Antigua in late December (coudy and too far north in Bermuda in November and early December). We started to hit 4kw/day in Martinique and then the USVI in March& April. And now we've exceeded 5kw on a number of sunny days in the Chesapeake Bay  in May. 

Our base consumption at anchor is about 3.6kw/ day, plus more if we run the water heater and do induction cooking.

We chose the two LG Neon panels because the fit within the existing solar arch frame. We've had several close encounters with various tall poles in marina's that we've stayed in over the years. Go too wide and with unprotected corners and you risk a broken panel. 

But solar is great! Out generator usage was cut in half this year after our upgrade to 71.3 hrs.  We basically only need the generator for the water-maker when in the Caribbean.

Best regards Daniel and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387

On Fri, May 21, 2021, 7:45 AM Nicolas Klene via groups.io <laixoi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Eloi
I am having an arch built as we speak for 3 SunPower Maxeon 3 400W...
I hope it will not be an eyesore and difficult to handle in a marina .
 I should be able to see the arch being built ,next week
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

 

Barry, great idea!

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:37 AM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Peter, 
When you get your oven it should have the measurements that you will use. I used as spacers the position blocks and dividers that came out when I took out all the 12 lead acid batteries. Solid wood and already vanished to match.
Best Barry

Barry and Penelope 
“SV Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique 


On May 21, 2021, at 09:19, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Peter,

Happy to pay it forward.  

It's about ~610mm from sidewall to sidewall in our Super Maramu.  Hopefully someone with a 54 can chime in with that measurement for you.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Cook top dimensions

Barry Connor
 

Hi Peter, 
When you get your oven it should have the measurements that you will use. I used as spacers the position blocks and dividers that came out when I took out all the 12 lead acid batteries. Solid wood and already vanished to match.
Best Barry

Barry and Penelope 
“SV Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique 


On May 21, 2021, at 09:19, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Peter,

Happy to pay it forward.  

It's about ~610mm from sidewall to sidewall in our Super Maramu.  Hopefully someone with a 54 can chime in with that measurement for you.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: solar panel

Dan Carlson
 

Here are a few more real data points from our two LG Neon2 335w panels on our solar arch. 

649KW produced over ~210 days from Oct 2 - 21 May.  = 2.82 kw/day. We did not get above 3Kw/day until we reached Antigua in late December (coudy and too far north in Bermuda in November and early December). We started to hit 4kw/day in Martinique and then the USVI in March& April. And now we've exceeded 5kw on a number of sunny days in the Chesapeake Bay  in May. 

Our base consumption at anchor is about 3.6kw/ day, plus more if we run the water heater and do induction cooking.

We chose the two LG Neon panels because the fit within the existing solar arch frame. We've had several close encounters with various tall poles in marina's that we've stayed in over the years. Go too wide and with unprotected corners and you risk a broken panel. 

But solar is great! Out generator usage was cut in half this year after our upgrade to 71.3 hrs.  We basically only need the generator for the water-maker when in the Caribbean.

Best regards Daniel and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387

On Fri, May 21, 2021, 7:45 AM Nicolas Klene via groups.io <laixoi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Eloi
I am having an arch built as we speak for 3 SunPower Maxeon 3 400W...
I hope it will not be an eyesore and difficult to handle in a marina .
 I should be able to see the arch being built ,next week
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Mark McGovern
 

Peter,

Happy to pay it forward.  

It's about ~610mm from sidewall to sidewall in our Super Maramu.  Hopefully someone with a 54 can chime in with that measurement for you.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Cook top dimensions

Peter Tiner
 

Great - Thanks Denise, and Barry .
And Mark for the install tips. 
I´m about to order the OceanChef and want start preparing with blocks.
Do we know if there is a difference between the distance from sidewall to sidewall in a SuperMaramu and a A54.

And again thanks all of you for this fantastic forum with all the knowledge gathered. Hope i can contribute, perhaps with some info re this install.

\Peter @ sy Maiken A54 #52


Re: solar panel

Nicolas Klene
 

Hello Eloi
I am having an arch built as we speak for 3 SunPower Maxeon 3 400W...
I hope it will not be an eyesore and difficult to handle in a marina .
 I should be able to see the arch being built ,next week
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Holding tank riser

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Darren,

The fix you referenced we did a year ago and have had no problem since. What I like with this solution is the continuous sanitary hose all the way from the toilet to the top of the holding tank, no joints to leak.  Reaming out the deteriorated copper and fiberglass to allow for the insertion of the tube I found quite difficult until acquiring the proper tool. See the posting on 7/31/20 https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/message/53493?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,aletes,20,2,40,75913168 for more details. One must also be meticulous about getting the resin completely around the pipe penetration from above so that it is fully sealed.  We did abandon the old riser inside the holding tank as we could not figure out a way to remove it without cutting an access port into the tank.

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:16 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Holding tank riser

 

Hi Tom and others on this forum,

 

Kaz and I are newby owners of our Super Maramu #171 and this is our first post to this amazing forum

 

I found a similar issue with our holding tanks this morning, it looks like there was a solid pipe through the bottom of the tank which then had a 35-40mm flexible pipe connected to it on the inside of the tank which went up to the top of the tanks and then curved over to point back down.

 

In both tanks the pipes have broken off on the inside of the tank, I'm thinking of replacing the pipe going through the bottom of the tank with a solid bronze pipe going up to near the top of the tank as in the modification suggested in this PDF

 

I like the idea of going into the side of the tank at the side as well, but do find going in the bottom neater.

 

I'd like to get the old flexible pipe out of the tanks as well, not sure if this is possible without cutting an inspection hole in the tank.

 

I'd be interested to hear about how you go about your modification.

 

Kind Regards

 

Darren and Karen

SV Tradewinds III

SM 171

Australia

 

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 10:02, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

My aft head holding tank riser has separated from the lower part of the copper fitting. So inflow to the holding tank enters at the bottom of the tank. Despite this, there is no leaking from the fitting.

I've read the various posts on fixes; replacing the fitting, mounting a smaller diameter pipe inside what remains of the original, etc.

One goal of the project would be to make it easier to maintain. If the idea is to have the black water enter at the top of the tank, I'm wondering if anyone has moved the inlet from the bottom of the tank to the upper side. This would have the benefit of allowing the hose to run outside of the tank and turn left, dramatically simplifying clearing clogs.

Anyway, I want to consider all possibilities before I open this can of worms.

Tom and Kirstin

SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Tahiti

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