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Re: Ground plates change #replacement

eric freedman
 

Is it a dynaplate, if so just wash it in a mild acis.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of ste.dente
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 5:51 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground plates change #replacement

 

Dear Amelians,
I’m mounting a SSB radio on Euploia. It seems to the technician that the ground plate is old and too “smooth” to grant a good conduction; he thinks it would be better to change it. Someone of you did that? Is it sufficient to unscrew the four screws or should I pay attention to something special to be done? How is the plate hold in site?
Thanks a lot to anyone could contribute
Stefania e Dietmar
Euploia SN #93
Italy 

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

When we first bought Ya Fohi we went through three genoa furler belts in a year. We then started furling in only with the load taken off the sail and since then have not had any problem and are still using the original Banmar furlers.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: 03 March 2020 11:39
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

 

Hello Stefan;

 

We installed the new Bamar furlers about 2 years ago and have used it for two seasons. So far we have had no issues.

 

We never furl under load. We always loosen the sheets to the point right before the sail starts to flap and furl, loosing the sheets as needed so the furlers never have the pressure of the loaded sheets placed on them.. We do unfurl under toad which does not place any extra load on the furler.

 

I think this would be good practice regardless of the furler used. 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099


On Mar 2, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Stefan Schaufert via Groups.Io <mail@...> wrote:

Dear Ameliens,

 

I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.

Is in the new modell still a belt inside?

What is your experience?

Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Stefan;

We installed the new Bamar furlers about 2 years ago and have used it for two seasons. So far we have had no issues.

We never furl under load. We always loosen the sheets to the point right before the sail starts to flap and furl, loosing the sheets as needed so the furlers never have the pressure of the loaded sheets placed on them.. We do unfurl under toad which does not place any extra load on the furler.

I think this would be good practice regardless of the furler used. 

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

On Mar 2, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Stefan Schaufert via Groups.Io <mail@...> wrote:

Dear Ameliens,

 

I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.

Is in the new modell still a belt inside?

What is your experience?

Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Arno Luijten
 

I replaced both furlers with the EJF’s. Since they use a planetary gear system instead of belts and worm-gears the torque provided by the furler is about twice as high compared to the original MEJ’s at the same power consumption. For me they are working well, When furling in strong winds I can’t hear the motor being stressed at all, it furls in quite smoothly.

I have a hard time understanding the thing Courtney mentions about the cable sleeve also used for draining any water that enters the unit. When you buy the units the sleeve is quite long and I cannot imagine some Italian designer thinks to use it as a drain pathway. It seems more that you must prevent water to enter the sleeve so it cannot reach the unit.

Do make sure you use the electronically controlled Boxtrons in conjunction with the new furlers as they also provide a soft-start to make it easier on the rig.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121 

Ground plates change #replacement

ste.dente
 

Dear Amelians,
I’m mounting a SSB radio on Euploia. It seems to the technician that the ground plate is old and too “smooth” to grant a good conduction; he thinks it would be better to change it. Someone of you did that? Is it sufficient to unscrew the four screws or should I pay attention to something special to be done? How is the plate hold in site?
Thanks a lot to anyone could contribute
Stefania e Dietmar
Euploia SN #93
Italy 

Re: Super maramu max prop

Rob Smith
 

Many thanks


On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 23:48 Stephen Davis, <flyboyscd@...> wrote:

Hi Rob,

if you give PYI a call, they are very helpful. They will need to know your engine, type of boat, diameter of the prop, and left hand rotation. I believe the diameter is 21”, but assuming you are out of the water, you can measure to be sure. We re-powered with a Yanmar, and the pitch PYI came up with was exactly correct when we sea trialed it. 


Good luck.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney Gorman
 

Porter Back on the boat in two weeks will send you a photo then cheers


On Mar 2, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio@...> wrote:


Stefan,
The first Amel 54 (until which number ?) had the same motor on the genua and Trinquette,  in later models the motor of the genua was bigger MEJ 2.0 . So the problem is the boxcontrol unit - it should break down the fuse by overload. If not adjusted in the right way you have a broken belt.
With new sailors on board I always have the fuse shutting off because of too much load on the sheet while furling.
Amel is not only push bottom - respect the sea and wind. Don't change too early to new equipment.
All the best
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162






Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Wolfgang Weber
 

Stefan,
The first Amel 54 (until which number ?) had the same motor on the genua and Trinquette,  in later models the motor of the genua was bigger MEJ 2.0 . So the problem is the boxcontrol unit - it should break down the fuse by overload. If not adjusted in the right way you have a broken belt.
With new sailors on board I always have the fuse shutting off because of too much load on the sheet while furling.
Amel is not only push bottom - respect the sea and wind. Don't change too early to new equipment.
All the best
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162






Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Porter McRoberts
 

Yes I know the tubing. Might you share a photo of your install?  
I’d appreciate it Courtney. 
Many thanks
Porter


On Mar 2, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Porter there is tubing that comes out of the bottom of the unit and goes through the deck into the sail locker it serves two purposes it carries the wires for the power it also acts as the drain for the unit sometimes if this package is not stretched tight a loop is created near the Furler so water cannot drain which then allows
The break in the bottom of the Furler to rust and seize and the motor burns out


On Mar 2, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Courtney.  Can you please expound? Obviously you took notice of something specific.
Always appreciated.
Porter
A54-152 IBIS


On Mar 2, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Make sure with the Bamar that it is set up to drain properly otherwise the brake will fail and ruin the motor
Otherwise great piece of kit
Cheers
Courtney
54 #101
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Teun BAAS <teun@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Hi Stefan,
 
I have, what I believe, the 3rd generation BAMAR. This version is NOT belt driven but gear driven.
No problems at all – major improvement over the previous 2 versions.
 
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT  A54  #128
 
Currently on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
March 2, 2020 13:23:55
 
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
 
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
 
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stefan Schaufert via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 13:16
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
 
Dear Ameliens,
 
I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.
Is in the new modell still a belt inside?
What is your experience?
Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Jamie Wendell
 

Stefan, I had many issues with my Genoa MEJ on my Amel 54 - belts breaking and then a rusted-solid motor. Since I have an earlier Amel 54, I had the original smaller version.
In Martinique I replaced it with a Reckman furler. I will never go back. It is fantastic - twice as fast and you can use it in fairly heavy weather (with caution of course).
The only concern is the cost. It is roughly twice the price of the new Bamar.

If you can do it, I truly recommend the Reckman. Even now I have problems with my staysail Bamar. All the new Amels use the Reckman.

By the way, I do know of some folks that have had problems with the newer EFJ, but I am not sure what they did to address the concerns.

Jamie
Phantom A54 #44

Re: Super maramu max prop

Patrick McAneny
 

Rob, Take Steves advice and call PYI , ask for Fred Hutchinson ,he knows everything about the Max props, and will answer all your questions . I bought a Max Classic 22" 16 pitch 70 mm shaft and I have a Volvo TMD22a. Fred was very helpful and even advised me in order to save some money ,that I could purchase the prop from Fawcetts Marine in Annapolis ,they are a dealer and can discount the prop ,where PYI cannot.
Good Luck,
Pat 
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Smith <robfromcornwall.1966@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 7:35 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Super maramu max prop

Hello I am hoping someone can tell me what the correct setup on a max prop for tmd22 engine?

Many thanks 
Rob
Foresight  
SM #152

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney Gorman
 

Also make sure the screw in cap on top is well sealed


On Mar 2, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Courtney.  Can you please expound? Obviously you took notice of something specific.
Always appreciated.
Porter
A54-152 IBIS


On Mar 2, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Make sure with the Bamar that it is set up to drain properly otherwise the brake will fail and ruin the motor
Otherwise great piece of kit
Cheers
Courtney
54 #101
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Teun BAAS <teun@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Hi Stefan,
 
I have, what I believe, the 3rd generation BAMAR. This version is NOT belt driven but gear driven.
No problems at all – major improvement over the previous 2 versions.
 
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT  A54  #128
 
Currently on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
March 2, 2020 13:23:55
 
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
 
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
 
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stefan Schaufert via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 13:16
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
 
Dear Ameliens,
 
I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.
Is in the new modell still a belt inside?
What is your experience?
Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney Gorman
 

Porter there is tubing that comes out of the bottom of the unit and goes through the deck into the sail locker it serves two purposes it carries the wires for the power it also acts as the drain for the unit sometimes if this package is not stretched tight a loop is created near the Furler so water cannot drain which then allows
The break in the bottom of the Furler to rust and seize and the motor burns out


On Mar 2, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Courtney.  Can you please expound? Obviously you took notice of something specific.
Always appreciated.
Porter
A54-152 IBIS


On Mar 2, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Make sure with the Bamar that it is set up to drain properly otherwise the brake will fail and ruin the motor
Otherwise great piece of kit
Cheers
Courtney
54 #101
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Teun BAAS <teun@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Hi Stefan,
 
I have, what I believe, the 3rd generation BAMAR. This version is NOT belt driven but gear driven.
No problems at all – major improvement over the previous 2 versions.
 
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT  A54  #128
 
Currently on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
March 2, 2020 13:23:55
 
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
 
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
 
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stefan Schaufert via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 13:16
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
 
Dear Ameliens,
 
I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.
Is in the new modell still a belt inside?
What is your experience?
Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica

Re: Headliner fix

Paul Stascavage
 

Just an FYI. 

I’m not sure what headliner was used in the 54 or earlier models of SM’s, Maramu’s, etc., but the headliner in our boat (SM #466) was still available about a year ago. It has a felt like backing. We are looking to replace the fine plush like material that lines the forward and captains berth walls and thought the headliner would be a good replacement material as well as match the rest of the boat.  Most SM’s we have seen have the pleated cushion material in these areas and it is attached with Velcro. Ours has this thin layer of material that appears to be glued in place. We haven’t completed the project yet as I am still trying to figure out if I will be able to remove these panels first. Hopefully this summer I will find some spare time to investigate further. It does appear that there are some screws behind the fabric but I am not sure if all the mounting screws are accessible. If anyone knows please let me know. 

Slightly off topic, but if anyone is interested, at the same time we purchased some of the original blue shower curtain material and had new curtains made. Again that was available as of about a year ago. 

All the Best,

Paul Stascavage
S/V Rita Kathryn SM #466

RitaKathryn.com

Currently Cruising Bahamas

Re: Super maramu max prop

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Rob,

if you give PYI a call, they are very helpful. They will need to know your engine, type of boat, diameter of the prop, and left hand rotation. I believe the diameter is 21”, but assuming you are out of the water, you can measure to be sure. We re-powered with a Yanmar, and the pitch PYI came up with was exactly correct when we sea trialed it. 


Good luck.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Porter McRoberts
 

Courtney.  Can you please expound? Obviously you took notice of something specific.
Always appreciated.
Porter
A54-152 IBIS


On Mar 2, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Make sure with the Bamar that it is set up to drain properly otherwise the brake will fail and ruin the motor
Otherwise great piece of kit
Cheers
Courtney
54 #101
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Teun BAAS <teun@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Hi Stefan,
 
I have, what I believe, the 3rd generation BAMAR. This version is NOT belt driven but gear driven.
No problems at all – major improvement over the previous 2 versions.
 
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT  A54  #128
 
Currently on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
March 2, 2020 13:23:55
 
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
 
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
 
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stefan Schaufert via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 13:16
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
 
Dear Ameliens,
 
I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.
Is in the new modell still a belt inside?
What is your experience?
Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney Gorman
 

Make sure with the Bamar that it is set up to drain properly otherwise the brake will fail and ruin the motor
Otherwise great piece of kit
Cheers
Courtney
54 #101
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Teun BAAS <teun@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Hi Stefan,
 
I have, what I believe, the 3rd generation BAMAR. This version is NOT belt driven but gear driven.
No problems at all – major improvement over the previous 2 versions.
 
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT  A54  #128
 
Currently on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
March 2, 2020 13:23:55
 
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
 
 
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stefan Schaufert via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 13:16
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
 
Dear Ameliens,
 
I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.
Is in the new modell still a belt inside?
What is your experience?
Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Teun BAAS
 

Further to Porter’s review below – or the connection between the EJF and the aluminum furler.

 

I checked RECKMANN before ordering the 3rd set of BAMAR’s but the price difference was extreme.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

currently on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 2, 2020 13:40:44

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 13:36
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

 

The EJF is fantastic.  Flawless operation and a pleasure to use.

No belt.  One just has to be careful, whereas the weakest link in the MEJ was the belt, the weakest link in the EJF may now be the deck hardware!  

A reckmann seems fine too, but were very happy with the EJFs after 15k+miles.

Porter

A54-152 IBIS



On Mar 2, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:

 

Dear Ameliens,

 

I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.

Is in the new modell still a belt inside?

What is your experience?

Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica

 

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Porter McRoberts
 

The EJF is fantastic.  Flawless operation and a pleasure to use.
No belt.  One just has to be careful, whereas the weakest link in the MEJ was the belt, the weakest link in the EJF may now be the deck hardware!  
A reckmann seems fine too, but were very happy with the EJFs after 15k+miles.
Porter
A54-152 IBIS

On Mar 2, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:

Dear Ameliens,

 

I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.

Is in the new modell still a belt inside?

What is your experience?

Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica


Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Stefan,

 

I have, what I believe, the 3rd generation BAMAR. This version is NOT belt driven but gear driven.

No problems at all – major improvement over the previous 2 versions.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

Currently on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 2, 2020 13:23:55

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stefan Schaufert via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 13:16
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

 

Dear Ameliens,

 

I consider to change the genua furler (MEJ) to the newest BAMAR model (EFJ?) - if the technic is much better then the MEJ-modell (bad engineered + belts) . There where recently 2 belts broken (within 4 weeks, after 6 month of working fine) - not nice + lot of hard work. A thing that I do not wont to have again.

Is in the new modell still a belt inside?

What is your experience?

Or is it wiser to go directly to a Reckmann?

Thanks for your responses.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 N° 119 LADY CHARLYETTE, currently Dominica