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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Our new Amel and a little light problem

Peter Forbes
 

Dean,

One of my lopo’s failed and the replacement came with very long wires.

I found the join just inside the stainless tubing near the light - I could not figure out why it had a joint at all - I concluded just idleness on part of installer since this invites water corrosion.

I pulled the wire with mouse line attached with much less problem than I anticipated - so with new light re-threaded the greased wire from top rail down to fuse box re-connected and all has been Ok since then.  

Only one lower bow nav light failed thus and when renewed they both lasted round the World.

Hope that helps

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
In a Hurricane cradle in Grenada

On 6 Aug 2017, at 10:04, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

After more checking, I can now confirm that there is power to the junction box in the bow locker when the switch is made.


I note also that the cable which is connected (sealed) to the light unit is not the same type of cable which exits the stainless tubing of the pulpit inside the bow locker. So, it appears there is a cable join inside the tubing. I'm not sure why you would locate the join in the tubing and not in the locker, but presumably there is a good reason?

I have measured the current to the light unit and found 25mA. So, I assume this joint is ok and the LED power supply is operating (somewhat), However, the LED's don't light.  

The light is a Lopo 200-004 from 2009-37 batch. Google tells me that there have been many failures with Lopo lights, so everything points to the diagnosis that the light unit has simply failed.

Any "me-too's" out there?

Any hints on easily pulling a new cable through the pulpit metalwork?

Thanks all.

Dean and Jan
SY Stella, Amel 54 #154

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Re: Our new Amel and a little light problem

Dean Gillies
 

After more checking, I can now confirm that there is power to the junction box in the bow locker when the switch is made.

I note also that the cable which is connected (sealed) to the light unit is not the same type of cable which exits the stainless tubing of the pulpit inside the bow locker. So, it appears there is a cable join inside the tubing. I'm not sure why you would locate the join in the tubing and not in the locker, but presumably there is a good reason?

I have measured the current to the light unit and found 25mA. So, I assume this joint is ok and the LED power supply is operating (somewhat), However, the LED's don't light.  

The light is a Lopo 200-004 from 2009-37 batch. Google tells me that there have been many failures with Lopo lights, so everything points to the diagnosis that the light unit has simply failed.

Any "me-too's" out there?

Any hints on easily pulling a new cable through the pulpit metalwork?

Thanks all.

Dean and Jan
SY Stella, Amel 54 #154

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Our new Amel and a little light problem

Peter Forbes
 

Dean,

On my 54 the wiring runs into the stainless and then straight down into the bow locker and is wired into the circuit board from there - it is not a difficult trace job.

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
In a Hurricane cradle in Grenada

On 6 Aug 2017, at 08:42, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi All,

Jan and I are delighted to announce that we are the new custodians of 'Stella', Amel 54 #154 currently located in Santo Stefano al Mare.


Many thanks go to Michel and Olivier for their great support during the purchase.


We had a 5am departure planned this morning to sail and last night our final checks revealed that the bow navigation light had stopped working.


Unfortunately our tricolour is not functional, we knew that from the survey, so we have no forward Nav lights at all. 


So, we are now trying to fault find, and would appreciate any assistance.


The situation.

We have sealed LED light units fore and aft. According to the wiring diagram, both units are fed from the same switch/breaker on the 24V panel. Left side, 2nd switch down.

The aft light works. The fore light does not.


I have disassembled the fore light as much as possible, but there is no way to check the voltage at the unit without cutting into the sealed wiring. (Reluctant!)


The cable runs into the pulpit tubing and from there I know not where it goes. Can someone enlighten me as to the routing of the cable?

In particular, where I could find a join to test for power to determine if it's a faulty LED unit or faulty wiring from the panel. 


Is there an additional fuse for this light maybe?


All ideas gratefully received.


Many thanks

Dean & Jan


SY Stella, Amel 54 #154





Our new Amel and a little light problem

Dean Gillies
 

Hi All,

Jan and I are delighted to announce that we are the new custodians of 'Stella', Amel 54 #154 currently located in Santo Stefano al Mare.


Many thanks go to Michel and Olivier for their great support during the purchase.


We had a 5am departure planned this morning to sail and last night our final checks revealed that the bow navigation light had stopped working.


Unfortunately our tricolour is not functional, we knew that from the survey, so we have no forward Nav lights at all. 


So, we are now trying to fault find, and would appreciate any assistance.


The situation.

We have sealed LED light units fore and aft. According to the wiring diagram, both units are fed from the same switch/breaker on the 24V panel. Left side, 2nd switch down.

The aft light works. The fore light does not.


I have disassembled the fore light as much as possible, but there is no way to check the voltage at the unit without cutting into the sealed wiring. (Reluctant!)


The cable runs into the pulpit tubing and from there I know not where it goes. Can someone enlighten me as to the routing of the cable?

In particular, where I could find a join to test for power to determine if it's a faulty LED unit or faulty wiring from the panel. 


Is there an additional fuse for this light maybe?


All ideas gratefully received.


Many thanks

Dean & Jan

SY Stella, Amel 54 #154



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

eric freedman
 

Courtney,

Have plenty of diesel on board.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 10:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Eric

Sailing ESE staying above 30 degrees until I Reach 75 then Turning SSE straight to  Puerto Rico, Weather permitting!  Sailing and motor sailing if necessary and staying 6+ knots should be 7 days.

Cheers

Courtney

 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Aug 5, 2017 10:33 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

Courtney,

What route did you decide?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 7:32 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

First I'd like to thank everybody for the wonderful input and advice I will make sure I report the outcome of my trip both good and bad after we had it and again thanks to all of the knowledge and support that I get from this group.

Courtney 

Trippin' 

Amel 54

Brunswick, GA (boat)

Marion, IN (me)

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 8/2/17 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Courtney,

 

During that time of year, you will see weather fronts pass through the region one after another and as they pass winds will “clock” around the compass. It takes about 4-6 days for winds to completely clock allowing an eastern passage. My advice would be to sail as far east as possible taking advantage of one the these winter fronts.

 

Selecting the right front is key and having a schedule will not help matters. If you can push east for about 4 days or 500NM you will then be in position to steer 170 and the eastern winds will not be as much of a factor.

 

We used this method when we left the Bahamas and sailed east (really sailed with no motor) to PR. We were not on a schedule so we stopped in TCI and waited for another front so we could continue onto PR. During our eastern passage we  meet several sailors in TCI doing exactly the same, sailing as the fronts passed through and taking advantage of the clocking winds. If you are lucky and patient, you may be able to get back to back fronts.

 

Others have recommended The Gentleman's Guide to Passages South: The Thornless Path to Windward by Bruce Van Sant. We found the book not very helpful and poorly written. Since the book’s publication 3 day forecast have become much more reliable and weather can be obtained via satellite or SSB on a boat. If you can stand to read the egotist’s ramblings, it does contain some helpful information.

 

My second choice would be to sail to Bermuda taking advantage of a good weather window. Then go from Bermuda to PR. I think someone else already suggested this. Leaving Bermuda for PR would be a little easier to get a decent weather window and Bermuda is not a bad place to sit and wait. When leaving Bermuda aim for the BVI as the currents will push you westward.

 

This is my 2 cents worth and as they say on the cruises nets, the decision and course to sail is yours and yours along. Be safe.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 7:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Hi Mark looking to make the trip in one leg then Island hop in the Caribbean later in the year.  This is a boat move.

Cheers

Courtney

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Aug 1, 2017 6:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

Courtney,

 

Are you looking to make the trip in one leg or island hop? This makes a big difference in recommended routes.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 2:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Hi all looking for advice and information on routes from Georgia (Brunswick) to Puerto Rico in early December.  Thanks

Courtney

Trippin'


Posted by: "Mark Erdos" <mcerdos@...>



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

Courtney Gorman
 

Eric
Sailing ESE staying above 30 degrees until I Reach 75 then Turning SSE straight to  Puerto Rico, Weather permitting!  Sailing and motor sailing if necessary and staying 6+ knots should be 7 days.
Cheers
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Aug 5, 2017 10:33 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 
Courtney,
What route did you decide?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 7:32 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico
 
 
First I'd like to thank everybody for the wonderful input and advice I will make sure I report the outcome of my trip both good and bad after we had it and again thanks to all of the knowledge and support that I get from this group.
Courtney 
Trippin' 
Amel 54
Brunswick, GA (boat)
Marion, IN (me)
 
 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 
-------- Original message --------
From: "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 8/2/17 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico
 
 
Courtney,
 
During that time of year, you will see weather fronts pass through the region one after another and as they pass winds will “clock” around the compass. It takes about 4-6 days for winds to completely clock allowing an eastern passage. My advice would be to sail as far east as possible taking advantage of one the these winter fronts.
 
Selecting the right front is key and having a schedule will not help matters. If you can push east for about 4 days or 500NM you will then be in position to steer 170 and the eastern winds will not be as much of a factor.
 
We used this method when we left the Bahamas and sailed east (really sailed with no motor) to PR. We were not on a schedule so we stopped in TCI and waited for another front so we could continue onto PR. During our eastern passage we  meet several sailors in TCI doing exactly the same, sailing as the fronts passed through and taking advantage of the clocking winds. If you are lucky and patient, you may be able to get back to back fronts.
 
Others have recommended The Gentleman's Guide to Passages South: The Thornless Path to Windward by Bruce Van Sant. We found the book not very helpful and poorly written. Since the book’s publication 3 day forecast have become much more reliable and weather can be obtained via satellite or SSB on a boat. If you can stand to read the egotist’s ramblings, it does contain some helpful information.
 
My second choice would be to sail to Bermuda taking advantage of a good weather window. Then go from Bermuda to PR. I think someone else already suggested this. Leaving Bermuda for PR would be a little easier to get a decent weather window and Bermuda is not a bad place to sit and wait. When leaving Bermuda aim for the BVI as the currents will push you westward.
 
This is my 2 cents worth and as they say on the cruises nets, the decision and course to sail is yours and yours along. Be safe.
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Grenada
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 7:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico
 
 
Hi Mark looking to make the trip in one leg then Island hop in the Caribbean later in the year.  This is a boat move.
Cheers
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Aug 1, 2017 6:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico
 
Courtney,
 
Are you looking to make the trip in one leg or island hop? This makes a big difference in recommended routes.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Grenada
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 2:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico
 
 
Hi all looking for advice and information on routes from Georgia (Brunswick) to Puerto Rico in early December.  Thanks
Courtney
Trippin'

Posted by: "Mark Erdos" <mcerdos@...>


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

eric freedman
 

Courtney,

What route did you decide?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 7:32 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

First I'd like to thank everybody for the wonderful input and advice I will make sure I report the outcome of my trip both good and bad after we had it and again thanks to all of the knowledge and support that I get from this group.

Courtney 

Trippin' 

Amel 54

Brunswick, GA (boat)

Marion, IN (me)

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 8/2/17 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Courtney,

 

During that time of year, you will see weather fronts pass through the region one after another and as they pass winds will “clock” around the compass. It takes about 4-6 days for winds to completely clock allowing an eastern passage. My advice would be to sail as far east as possible taking advantage of one the these winter fronts.

 

Selecting the right front is key and having a schedule will not help matters. If you can push east for about 4 days or 500NM you will then be in position to steer 170 and the eastern winds will not be as much of a factor.

 

We used this method when we left the Bahamas and sailed east (really sailed with no motor) to PR. We were not on a schedule so we stopped in TCI and waited for another front so we could continue onto PR. During our eastern passage we  meet several sailors in TCI doing exactly the same, sailing as the fronts passed through and taking advantage of the clocking winds. If you are lucky and patient, you may be able to get back to back fronts.

 

Others have recommended The Gentleman's Guide to Passages South: The Thornless Path to Windward by Bruce Van Sant. We found the book not very helpful and poorly written. Since the book’s publication 3 day forecast have become much more reliable and weather can be obtained via satellite or SSB on a boat. If you can stand to read the egotist’s ramblings, it does contain some helpful information.

 

My second choice would be to sail to Bermuda taking advantage of a good weather window. Then go from Bermuda to PR. I think someone else already suggested this. Leaving Bermuda for PR would be a little easier to get a decent weather window and Bermuda is not a bad place to sit and wait. When leaving Bermuda aim for the BVI as the currents will push you westward.

 

This is my 2 cents worth and as they say on the cruises nets, the decision and course to sail is yours and yours along. Be safe.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 7:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Hi Mark looking to make the trip in one leg then Island hop in the Caribbean later in the year.  This is a boat move.

Cheers

Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Aug 1, 2017 6:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

Courtney,

 

Are you looking to make the trip in one leg or island hop? This makes a big difference in recommended routes.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 2:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Hi all looking for advice and information on routes from Georgia (Brunswick) to Puerto Rico in early December.  Thanks

Courtney

Trippin'


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

Courtney Gorman
 

First I'd like to thank everybody for the wonderful input and advice I will make sure I report the outcome of my trip both good and bad after we had it and again thanks to all of the knowledge and support that I get from this group.
Courtney 
Trippin' 
Amel 54
Brunswick, GA (boat)
Marion, IN (me)


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-------- Original message --------
From: "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 8/2/17 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

Courtney,

 

During that time of year, you will see weather fronts pass through the region one after another and as they pass winds will “clock” around the compass. It takes about 4-6 days for winds to completely clock allowing an eastern passage. My advice would be to sail as far east as possible taking advantage of one the these winter fronts.

 

Selecting the right front is key and having a schedule will not help matters. If you can push east for about 4 days or 500NM you will then be in position to steer 170 and the eastern winds will not be as much of a factor.

 

We used this method when we left the Bahamas and sailed east (really sailed with no motor) to PR. We were not on a schedule so we stopped in TCI and waited for another front so we could continue onto PR. During our eastern passage we  meet several sailors in TCI doing exactly the same, sailing as the fronts passed through and taking advantage of the clocking winds. If you are lucky and patient, you may be able to get back to back fronts.

 

Others have recommended The Gentleman's Guide to Passages South: The Thornless Path to Windward by Bruce Van Sant. We found the book not very helpful and poorly written. Since the book’s publication 3 day forecast have become much more reliable and weather can be obtained via satellite or SSB on a boat. If you can stand to read the egotist’s ramblings, it does contain some helpful information.

 

My second choice would be to sail to Bermuda taking advantage of a good weather window. Then go from Bermuda to PR. I think someone else already suggested this. Leaving Bermuda for PR would be a little easier to get a decent weather window and Bermuda is not a bad place to sit and wait. When leaving Bermuda aim for the BVI as the currents will push you westward.

 

This is my 2 cents worth and as they say on the cruises nets, the decision and course to sail is yours and yours along. Be safe.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 7:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Hi Mark looking to make the trip in one leg then Island hop in the Caribbean later in the year.  This is a boat move.

Cheers

Courtney

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Aug 1, 2017 6:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

Courtney,

 

Are you looking to make the trip in one leg or island hop? This makes a big difference in recommended routes.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 2:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Routes From Georgia to Puerto Rico

 

 

Hi all looking for advice and information on routes from Georgia (Brunswick) to Puerto Rico in early December.  Thanks

Courtney

Trippin'


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Re: Seasickness

Alan Leslie
 

Sorry...yes Bill you are right Scopolamine is hyoscine not cinnarzine.
Apologies for the error
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Bimini Alterations?

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Our bimini is similar to the Hafner, except the transparent plastic goes down to the base of the winches.  There are leather reinforcements in the small patches of the plastic that rub against the winches.

Things we did that we are pleased with:

1.  The canvas in the folding section is two layers of Sunbrella.  Our cockpit is very dry, and no light passes thru the roof.  In factory Amel biminis, if you put your hand under the bimini at noon, you make a shadow.

2.  The roll-up windows in the winch area and the roll-up windows that face aft have each two zipper tracks.  On the outer zipper track, we have transparent plastic.  On the inner zipper track, we have Phifertex, to reduce glare.  In summer, the plastic gets stored and we use only the Phifertex layer.  In deepest winter, we may remove the Phifertex for a few weeks, and rely only on the plastic.  The rest of the year, we have both installed, and we rollup or roll down either layer, or both, as necessary.

3.  The triangle below the foldable section of the bimini in the Hafner.   In this section, our transparent plastic is Makrolon.  It is very lightweight and very clear.  It is more clear than new plexiglass on the Amel windows.  Clean, you might think there is nothing there.  The only downside is that the triangular panels cannot be rolled up.  When we remove them we put them under beds.  As they scratch easily, make sure nothing rubs against them if stored under a mattress.

A full cockpit enclosure such as the Hafner makes it easy to sail year-round, as we do.

Cheerio,

s/v Peregrinus
SM2K Nr. 350
At anchor, Mykonos (Greece)



Re: Seasickness

greatketch@...
 

No matter what you might have heard, Stugeron is definitely not "scopolamine in tablet form."  The active ingredient in Stugeron is cinnarizine. They are actually different classes of drug entirely. 

In you use generic cinnarizine for seasickness, be sure you get the low dose (25 mg) tablets, not the 75 mg ones. With this drug more is definitely not better.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Bar Harbor, Maine.

---In amelyachtowners@..., <divanz620@...> wrote :

Yes, I suffer from seasickness also.
For the first few days at sea...and a day before...I take Stugeron tablets (which is scoplamine in tablet form) which I buy from the UK as they are unavailable in Australia...one in the morning, one in the evening and after 3 days I stop....and I am NOT seasick....but while I am taking it I am definitely drowsy, which can be an issue when on watch.
After that, for our 6 month cruising season in the South Pacific, I never take them again..
BUT everyone is different ...so you need to find your own solution
I have a friend who sailed from NZ to Tahiti twice and was sick every day ...but it didn't stop him carrying on !
Cheers
Alan
ELYSE SM437


Re: Bimini Alterations?

alainfeuillet@...
 

And to finish i added my own design, currently sailing the Aegean, and an hard top alternative from Lady Annila
fair winds
Alain


Re: Bimini Alterations?

alainfeuillet@...
 

Hello Steve, I just uploaded two sets of bimini's picturess in a photo's folder named "Some other biminis".
The first one is named "Hafner" from the small company who developped this alternatve. I copied a lot from this design for my own bimini. The second batch is from pictures taken at la Rochelle on the Amel pontoons;
Hope it will help you to develop your best design.
Cheers
Alain
PILGRIM SM#26


Re: Seasickness

Alan Leslie
 

Yes, I suffer from seasickness also.
For the first few days at sea...and a day before...I take Stugeron tablets (which is scoplamine in tablet form) which I buy from the UK as they are unavailable in Australia...one in the morning, one in the evening and after 3 days I stop....and I am NOT seasick....but while I am taking it I am definitely drowsy, which can be an issue when on watch.
After that, for our 6 month cruising season in the South Pacific, I never take them again..
BUT everyone is different ...so you need to find your own solution
I have a friend who sailed from NZ to Tahiti twice and was sick every day ...but it didn't stop him carrying on !
Cheers
Alan
ELYSE SM437


Seasickness

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

I read with great interest all the cures for the symptoms of sea sickness -- I have tried them all. Currently, I use Stugeron, which I buy in Italy. If the seas are calm, half dose ( 3 drops in a glass of water) solves the problem. If the seas are bad. 6-8 drops, and I am nothing but dead weight aboard.

I am now 73 and I have always suffered motion sickness, except on large, commercial airplanes. About 5 years ago, after an MRI of my upper spine to the beginning of the nerves that go to the spinal column, the radiologist saw an angioma, and recommended that I have an MRI of my entire brain. The second MRI showed a schwanoma (spelling?) on my autic (spelling?) nerve. The radiologist and the neurosurgeon agreed that I was born with these abnormalities, and to leave them be as long as they did not grow or if my hearing diminished. So, there was the cause of my lifelong problem with nausea. Surprisingly, we met another member of the Amel group that had the same problem. But, he had successful surgery to remove the schwanoma and is able to sail without seasickness.

So, when I hear that someone suffers from seasickness even after trying everything, then I begin to wonder if they have a problem such as the one I suffer from .

Fair winds,
Stephanie
SM2000 353 Indecent.
Grand Lucayan Canal, BS


Re: Bimini Alterations?

greatketch@...
 

We have a few modifications that we either made or have in the works for our standard bimini.

First is a large window in the center panel of the bimini.  This was one of the first modifications I made to the boat because sailing without being able to see the sails from the helm was just not something I could not tolerate. You might want to put a sun screen on this, but we haven't bothered.

My original plan was also to add zip open windows to the forward most panel.  I now think I am going to skip the window part and just have zip-open canvas panels.  These are for ventilation, and to rinse salt of the windscreens when underway without going on deck.

Our aft extension uses no cross brace.  We typically use it only at anchor.  Again. it is something I find gets in the way of seeing the sails too much. We actually sail a lot with the bimini folded down whenever the sun or rain isn't too bad.  I can't imagine trying to pull into a dock with the limited visibility I have with the bimini up.  The quick fold bimini is one of the things I love about our boat.

We have side curtains for the bimini in clear vinyl and in sunscreen.  Which get used (if any) depends on the weather.

We have enclosure curtains that attach to the back edge of the bimini, and close off the front half of the cockpit. We only use those when we are sailing downwind in rain--when they are really nice to have.  We find it gets too stuffy in the cockpit to tolerate them in most conditions.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Bar Harbor, Maine.



---In amelyachtowners@..., <steve_morrison@...> wrote :

For those of you who have had a new bimini made, what alterations have you made to the original?


We are meeting with a canvas company in Fernandina next week to look over fabrics and talk through hardware and other details before they make their patterns.  I have done a google image search for Amels to see photos of various biminis and shade awnings and have a few ideas of my own as to tweaks from the original that I want to look into.  


I would love to hear from those of you who have already been there in terms of gaining height, adding zippered windows, and anything else you have done in your rebuilds.  I would love to see photos as well of your bimini and aft extension and any enclosure you have made.  On TouRai (SM380), we have the original top (i believe) and the original sidewalklls, but the aft extension that goes to the mizzen mast is not around.  Also, while my mizzen stays have the fittings on them, I do not have the cross piece I have seen on other SMs that support this aft cockpit extension.


Any and all help and photos would be welcome as I put ideas together ahead of our meeting with the canvas company next week.


All the best,

Steve Morrison

SM 380 TouRai

Brunswick, GA


Re: Bimini Alterations?

Paul Osterberg
 

We made a new Bimini and extension, which we are VERY pleased with
You can see photos if you search in the photo section on Kerpa and Bimini.
If you have any further questions or need more photos I can send later
Paul on SY KerpaSM#259 in Nantucket next port Newport


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bimini Alterations?

Patrick McAneny
 

Steve, I raised my framing thus bimini a few inches , not as high as many did. I wanted to preserve the aesthetics of the boat as well as the ability to fold down the top to its original stowed position. What I did do and am very happy with , I had two openings installed port and starboard between the hard dodger and the first support . They are wide enough that my shoulders easily fit thru them , so that I can stand up and steer the boat , which I often do. They of course have zippers and sunbrella covers that snap over them when not in use. They provide an amazing amount of air into the cockpit , especially needed on the starboard side and allow me to see all the sails. There may be pics in the Shenanigan's folder , if not let me know.
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: steve_morrison@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners Sent: Fri, Aug 4, 2017 10:53 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bimini Alterations?

 
For those of you who have had a new bimini made, what alterations have you made to the original?

We are meeting with a canvas company in Fernandina next week to look over fabrics and talk through hardware and other details before they make their patterns.  I have done a google image search for Amels to see photos of various biminis and shade awnings and have a few ideas of my own as to tweaks from the original that I want to look into.  

I would love to hear from those of you who have already been there in terms of gaining height, adding zippered windows, and anything else you have done in your rebuilds.  I would love to see photos as well of your bimini and aft extension and any enclosure you have made.  On TouRai (SM380), we have the original top (i believe) and the original sidewalklls, but the aft extension that goes to the mizzen mast is not around.  Also, while my mizzen stays have the fittings on them, I do not have the cross piece I have seen on other SMs that support this aft cockpit extension.

Any and all help and photos would be welcome as I put ideas together ahead of our meeting with the canvas company next week.

All the best,
Steve Morrison
SM 380 TouRai
Brunswick, GA


Re: refinishing the sole

richarddemuynck
 

What we do, is once a year, rinse the teak floor thoroughly with "Pledge (Johnson) laminate cleaner". After drying a thin  layer of "Premium Golden Teak oil (Starbrite)". Not to much of this, otherwise you will see footprints. After 17 years our wooden sole is like new, even with two Jack Russle's aboard.
Good luck

Richard and Marie Jeanne
Silence
SM 206


Bimini Alterations?

steve_morrison@...
 

For those of you who have had a new bimini made, what alterations have you made to the original?


We are meeting with a canvas company in Fernandina next week to look over fabrics and talk through hardware and other details before they make their patterns.  I have done a google image search for Amels to see photos of various biminis and shade awnings and have a few ideas of my own as to tweaks from the original that I want to look into.  


I would love to hear from those of you who have already been there in terms of gaining height, adding zippered windows, and anything else you have done in your rebuilds.  I would love to see photos as well of your bimini and aft extension and any enclosure you have made.  On TouRai (SM380), we have the original top (i believe) and the original sidewalklls, but the aft extension that goes to the mizzen mast is not around.  Also, while my mizzen stays have the fittings on them, I do not have the cross piece I have seen on other SMs that support this aft cockpit extension.


Any and all help and photos would be welcome as I put ideas together ahead of our meeting with the canvas company next week.


All the best,

Steve Morrison

SM 380 TouRai

Brunswick, GA