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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance - More comments & Group Insurance Question
Duane Siegfri
Alexandre,
Email me at carlylelk "at" aol "dot" com and I'll be happy to discuss it. I don't want to do that on the open forum. Duane
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
wigmorejack@...
sorry about the sale of Island pearl2....send me info please...wigmorejack@...
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Re: refinishing the sole
Miles
Hi Ryan,
Congratulations on buying a great boat.
I have had mine since new. It came with a sole that is wood with teak oil. Once a year, I put a lot of teak oil on it and rub it off with towels. This takes up the dirt. Amel would not consider any varnish finishes because they are slippery. The teak oiled wood is nonskid to wet bare feet. If you can restore the original, I think that you would like it—especially in rough conditions.
Best of luck.
Miles
SM 216 Ladybug, Newport RI harbor.
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Re: Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
mfmcgovern@...
So sorry to hear that. I will pass on this message to anyone I know that is looking for a well cared for Super Maramu.
Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
Jean Boucharlat
We, French people, have this saying that the only cure against mal de mer is to find a meadow where you can lie under an apple tree….! Try it.
Otherwise, there is this one week program at the French Navy Hospital in Brest where they nauseate you to near death, and cure you. It is tough and efficient but requires significant motivation on the part of the patient.
Pick your choice!
All the best,
Jean Boucharlat Formerly SM 232
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: jeudi 3 août 2017 14:42 To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
The only thing the FDA says will stop mal de mer is the electronic Relief Band. It's used for post op nausea, and nausea of pregnancy (hyperemesis gravidarum). They zap your wrist every second. Sounds like hocus pocus, but I bought two several years ago for friends and family. I've put them on 9 people so far. 6 got complete relief almost immediately, one got partial relief, and two got no relief.
I recommend scopolamine, Relief Band, and Meclizine, staying above deck, and staying hydrated. So far I haven't had anyone on that regimen who stayed sick for days.
Kent (internal medicine/anesthesiology) Kristy SM243
I also vouch for scopaline patches, I carry them onboard as a last chance drug if nothing else works. Unfortunately not available in Australia so I get them from the US. The patch works for three days and usually no more than two patches are needed before the body adjusts.
Bob Grey
Amel 55 Renaissance iii On Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 22:12, Massimo Vecchietti massimovecchietti@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
Massimo Vecchietti
...I am an italian MD and I can dell' your the scopolamine us non life "placebo". It is important to out the transdernic 2 hours before going on board. If Ho I change after 72 hours it is very rare that will be the necessity tu use the third one. Sorry for you of you r have glaucoma you cannato use ! MV
Il 03 Ago 2017 7:06 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
Porter McRoberts
I also find the ERB highly effective with my crew, but am also a great believer in the placebo effect.
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At the end of the day… who cares how you find success.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
greatketch@...
"The only thing the FDA says will stop mal de mer is the electronic Relief Band"
I do not quite know what that means. A number of products have been FDA approved for safety and effectiveness in treating seasickness. Scopolamine and meclizine are just two of them. It is a "little bit true" to say, "the relief band is the only device approved by the FDA to treat seasickness" but the FDA has NOT approved the effectiveness of the Relief Band, just its safety. In fact, the FDA hasn't even REALLY approved it for safety by looking at any data. They cleared it for sale because it was "substantially similar" to a product that was marketed before approval for such devices was required. I know the company's marketing says "FDA Cleared" but that is very careful marketing double-speak. Note the careful avoidance of the word "Approved." Of course that does not mean it does not work, just that it has not been really evaluated by the FDA. I did a lot of research into this partly because I am always interested in products that work "like magic" and partly because I have glaucoma and can not take scopolamine or several of the other antiemetics. Fortunately, I don't often suffer from seasickness myself, but it would be nice to have something on board I could give to anybody and not worry about side effects, or drug interactions. I was never able to find any data to decide if the Relief Band really worked better than a placebo, or not. They don't reference any published studies of effectiveness, and that always raises a red flag to me. On the other hand a lot of people swear by it. It is certainly one of those things that "it can't hurt to try, it's only money!" Motion sickness is a really, really tough condition to really study. Nobody has looked harder at it than NASA, and as far as I could find, the technology behind the relief band didn't make their cut, so they never quite convinced me that they should get my money! Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Bar Harbor, Maine ---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote : The only thing the FDA says will stop mal de mer is the electronic Relief Band. It's used for post op nausea, and nausea of pregnancy (hyperemesis gravidarum). They zap your wrist every second. Sounds like hocus pocus, but I bought two several years ago for friends and family. I've put them on 9 people so far. 6 got complete relief almost immediately, one got partial relief, and two got no relief. I recommend scopolamine, Relief Band, and Meclizine, staying above deck, and staying hydrated. So far I haven't had anyone on that regimen who stayed sick for days. Kent (internal medicine/anesthesiology) Kristy
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance - More comments & Group Insurance Question
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Duane,
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Back in February you posted the boat hitting your. So out of curiosity, how did your claim end up? Asking because, 3 years after a neighbors lost control then panic and destroyed my bow pulpit, Mr Thomas Mullady of Pantaenius is still being difficult. Even thought he agreed to pay a insulting small amount of the damages back in December, he is still not paying… So I am curious to know if he treats his clients the same way he is treating other insurances. Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Port de Plaisance de Gustavia, Saint Barthélémy, FWI --------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/23/17, sailor63109@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance - More comments & Group Insurance Question To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017, 5:21 PM I'll tell you all, Pantaenius does not get my recommendation. We were struck by another boat, while both were at anchor during a windstorm. I had asked the other boat to move days before and they refused saying they would "keep and eye on it". The anchorage got very crowded and there was nowhere to go when we were expecting heavy winds. The night of the heavy winds (35 to 40 knots) they approached my port very close by and I set out fenders in anticipation of a collision. The next thing we knew they were on our starboard bearing down on us and dragging anchor. We had a collision on our starboard, the fenders were on port... It took 3 weeks for Pantaenius to send a surveyor, and now at 6 weeks I'm in a boatyard with the "investigation" phase over (to see if there was structural damage to the hull laminate). Now, I can't get the claims agent to call me back to schedule the surveyor that the may or may not want to review the hull laminate. On top of that they won't even state whether this is a covered event!!! I pasted their letter below. Would this give you any confidence that they are going to pay the claim?===============================================Duane: We acknowledge receipt of your two emails dated February 13th and February 20th, 2017. We review your comments set forth in your email along with the estimate you provided from Rybovich to determine if the charges are fair, reasonable, loss-related, and covered in accordance with the terms and conditions of your Pantaenius America Yacht Policy. We have cc’d our assigned surveyor on this matter who will advise as to whether or not a follow-up inspection of the reported damages is required. I am presently out of the office traveling for work until Friday, February 24th, 2017, but will be occasionally checking my emails from a remote location. Our claim file remains open, active, and under investigation. The foregoing request and steps taken during our investigation are not intended to be and shall not be construed as an indication or guarantee of coverage. The foregoing is not an admission of liability and is strictly without prejudice, and all rights , exclusions, and defenses available under the policy and the law are hereby reserved. Thomas Mullady | Claims Pantaenius America 500 Mamaroneck Avenue|Harrison, NY 10528|United States of America Dear Tom, Attached is the estimate for the repairs. Note that the attached firm price Additional Work Authorization (AWA) is in addition to the previous estimate. The repair company noted there was some structural laminate delamination, but it was limited to a few square inches. They are more than willing to talk to the Surveyor or you if that would be desireable. This does not include the yard charges, electric, and holding tank and holding tank connections costs. We decided to stay on the boat, so that will help keep the insurance claim down. Please let me know whether: 1.) The charges are reasonable per the insurance policy, and;2.) If the surveyor needs to review the damage with the gel coat removed prior to repairs proceeding. We would like this to happen as immediate as possible to reduce the time in the yard. Thank you,Duane ==============================I thought Pantaenius was one of the best in the industry, but their not earning that reputation for me. DuaneWanderer SM#477
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Re: refinishing the sole
greatketch@...
Ryan, Good luck with the new boat! Just a word of encouragement, refinishing an Amel's wood floors is actually quite easy compared to other boats, because most of the wood surface area is hatch surface, and is easily removed and worked on, and all the rest of it can be brushed without walking on it! This might be way more information than you need (or want!) but it might be of interest to others too. I'll make my wood-finishing recommendations with the proviso that wood finishing is a topic that sailors can be very passionate about. There are many, many ways to skin this cat, and it probably is one of those topics (like politics and religion) that should not be brought up in polite company... Varnish over the faux-caulking between the seams. It's a polysulfide and is "paintable". Of course, be careful sanding. Go slow, maybe one grit finer than you might otherwise use. It IS veneer--relatively thick--but still easy to go right on through. If you have some dents and dings (and what floor does not?) do not try to sand them out, rather after sanding everything else, apply a steam iron to the spot, low temperature, but lots of steam. At least sometimes, the wood will absorb the water, and swell back to something close to its original level and the divot will be gone. Of course if it is a scratch with wood removed, this will be of limited help I am sure it is not the same polyurethane formulation that Amel used, but I have excellent results with Bristol Finish. One of the great things about it is you can get on 4 or 5 coats a day. That is not unique among two part polyurethanes, but it does make a proper build up of coats a lot faster than traditional finishes. I am sure that any of the two part polyurethanes will likely do a good job for you. I'd recommend you review the application details and chose product that works well with the way you want to work. Put on as many coats as you can stand. 12 or 15 is not too many, especially for a floor. With any of the two-part varnishes, you can adjust the shine of the last coat by waiting until the finish has really cured hard, and then sanding with 1000 grit wet/dry paper for a very matt finish, 2000 to 4000 wet/dry paper for a semi-matt finish, all the way to buffing with polishing compound for a truly mirror-like gloss. That last ultra-fine sanding and buffing is the magic trick to getting an absolutely perfect dust/bubble/blemish free finish with a shine that matches surrounding parts as closely as possible. Another trick... If I am starting from bare wood, I frequently put two coats of clear epoxy on before starting to varnish. (West System 105 resin/207 hardener). This builds film thickness, and fills the wood grain and minor scratches much more quickly than varnish can. Epoxy has limited UV stability, and its surface isn't quite as pretty as varnish, so needs a full set of coats of varnish on top to really be a proper finish. Finally... Avoid doing this again from scratch. As soon as the floor starts to show some wear, scuff sand it and put two more costs of varnish on. A little work then will save a lot later if you wait until the underlying finish starts to fail and needs to be removed. Happy finishing! Bill Kinney SM10, Harmonie Bar Harbor, Maine ---In amelyachtowners@..., <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote : Hi all, I just bought SM #233. The sole in the salon and galley needs to be refinished. The floor is all wood, no blue fiberglass here. But it appears to be teak that has inlaid rubber, to create the effect of a teak deck. What sort of finish should I put on this? Was it originally the same two-part polyurethane as the bulkheads? I'd also love to learn more about that, does anyone know exactly what product it is? Also given the floor has rubber, is there a finishing product that will be compatible? Should I just try not to get any finish on the rubber? This seems like a pretty low priority repair, but I want to get it done before I move aboard, as I'll never do it otherwise. Also, there aren't a whole lot of things on this boat that need doing :) Thanks, Ryan
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Re: refinishing the sole
Ryan,
Congratulations and welcome! I have the 'blue floors' on our Amel but we refinished our first boat's sole just this spring. After sanding we used Warterlox Marine and it was fantastic. It will not stick to caulking and was so easy to use. This Youtube series was helpful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqiLQvJmvxQ Feel free to email me offline if you have any questions or would like to see photos of our project. mcgovern.denise (at) gmail (dot) com Denise S/V Cara SM #440 Deale. MD P.S. The custom is to sign with your boat info and location.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378
Hi Colin, Sent you an email please confirm you received it. Steve
On Wednesday, 2 August 2017, 03:20:21 SAST, colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] wrote: It is with a heavy heart that I write this. Island Pearl II is a fully optioned up SM2000 in excellent condition. We are the 2nd owners and she has been carefully looked after since new, ( since factory delivered by the previous owners who employed an Amel technician for 10 yrs to care for her due to their light use), and then by us since late 2011. Internally looks like she left the factory yesterday, and externally is in very good for age condition with complete new rigging in 2016. Engine hrs 1900, generator hours 1000hrs as till now, she has never been cruised so none of the usual wear and tear on any of the numerous pumps, winches, anchor winch etc etc as in similar aged Amels. Our intention was to do a circumnavigation, but since departing Brisbane in May this year, Lauren has battled so much with sea sickness every day for 2 months now that she simply cannot continue cruising for health reasons, and I do not particularly wish to continue on around the world alone. We are currently cruising the Spice Islands of Indonesia, all systems (except minor aircon capacitator issue) on board are running flawlessly, and will now head for Bali before deciding where to next. To get an idea of the gear ob board you can see some brief videos of the boat on our trip thus far at www.svislandpearl.com by scrolling down to the bottom of page 1 and looking at our FB site posted there. The boat is UK registered (EU VAT not paid) and has also been imported Into Australia with duty and GST paid. We are OPEN TO ALL SERIOUS OFFERS so this could be a huge opportunity for someone here to purchase and have me sail her with you to your intended home port pretty much anywhere in the world. I currently have time and love sailing, and the boat is fully ready and loaded to go anywhere! Our intentions from Bali were to either spend time up in Thailand, or to directly cross the Indian ocean headed for Cape Town and the Caribbean. We depart Banda sailing towards Alor islands & Bali tomorrow so will not have internet for 3 - 4 days. For any interest email me at svislandpearl@... and we will reply with info once we are back in internet range in a few days. Regretfully Colin & Lauren Streeter www.svislandpearl.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
The only thing the FDA says will stop mal de mer is the electronic Relief Band. It's used for post op nausea, and nausea of pregnancy (hyperemesis gravidarum). They zap your wrist every second. Sounds like hocus pocus, but I bought two several years ago for friends and family. I've put them on 9 people so far. 6 got complete relief almost immediately, one got partial relief, and two got no relief. I recommend scopolamine, Relief Band, and Meclizine, staying above deck, and staying hydrated. So far I haven't had anyone on that regimen who stayed sick for days. Kent (internal medicine/anesthesiology) Kristy
On Aug 3, 2017, at 12:12 AM, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
I also vouch for scopaline patches, I carry them onboard as a last chance drug if nothing else works. Unfortunately not available in Australia so I get them from the US. The patch works for three days and usually no more than two patches are needed before the body adjusts. Bob Grey Amel 55 Renaissance iii
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 22:12, Massimo Vecchietti massimovecchietti@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: maramu mail roller furler swivel
smallworldsailor@...
Thanks for that Ken but what is the procedure for removing the mainsail furling swivel? In order to draw the forward facing shaft for the manual control, do we have to raise the foil somehow and if so, does the upper foil bearing allow for this? Our mainsail is furled in and cannot be pulled out as the swivel is jammed and only allows less than one turn. Before I disconnect the adapter coupling from the foil to the swivel and try to raise the foil, I want to sure I won't cause some difficulties aloft. Any advice would be most welcome!
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
I also vouch for scopaline patches, I carry them onboard as a last chance drug if nothing else works. Unfortunately not available in Australia so I get them from the US. The patch works for three days and usually no more than two patches are needed before the body adjusts.
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On Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 22:12, Massimo Vecchietti massimovecchietti@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
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refinishing the sole
Ryan Meador
Hi all, I just bought SM #233. The sole in the salon and galley needs to be refinished. The floor is all wood, no blue fiberglass here. But it appears to be teak that has inlaid rubber, to create the effect of a teak deck. What sort of finish should I put on this? Was it originally the same two-part polyurethane as the bulkheads? I'd also love to learn more about that, does anyone know exactly what product it is? Also given the floor has rubber, is there a finishing product that will be compatible? Should I just try not to get any finish on the rubber? This seems like a pretty low priority repair, but I want to get it done before I move aboard, as I'll never do it otherwise. Also, there aren't a whole lot of things on this boat that need doing :) Thanks, Ryan
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
MB Gray <mbgray@...>
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Re: Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
torigirl99@...
I'm sorry to hear that you have to sell. I am new here to the group. I haven't bought an Amel yet but looking into one right now. Your Island Pearl is beautiful, and it looks like you meticulously take care of her! I am interested to know where she is now (in Bali?) and how much you are asking. We are from Michigan, looking to circumnavigate the world. Please email me at wendecook @ gmail.com Thanks, Wende
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Re: maramu mail roller furler swivel
Kenneth Coats
I had a jammed main swivel. When removed I found it was the nylon bushings doing the jamming.The bearing was fine.I had the bushings replaced with Vesconite which is a self lubricating plastic type material used to replace bronze bushings. I also added a grease zerk to add grease for the metal thrust bearing. Vesconite is pricey, but I had free machining.
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Re: Island Pearl II - 2001 - SM2000 #332 For sale
Dave_Benjamin
I'm sorry to hear of the circumstances surrounding the sale. Sounds like a wonderful opportunity for someone.
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