Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Greasing the Bamar 1.01 Furler
Porter McRoberts
Thanks Dean. I used emarine solar here in Fort Lauderdale. Truly plug and play. They told me what to do. I did it and voila. 5kwh per day.
On Aug 27, 2017, at 10:29 AM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Don't pole out the Genaker?
eric freedman
Peter, A gennaker is a free flying sail like a spinnaker without a pole. It is doused with a sock. We get amazing speeds from this huge sail. I had a bowsprit fabricated which makes this sail perform even better and is easier to handle. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 1:19 PM To: Barry Connor connor_barry@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Don't pole out the Genaker?
Sorry for Yankee read Code Zero - your Genakker is probably the same sail by the different name.
peter
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm
eric freedman
Paul., Replacing the bearings on the Autoprop is easy but time consuming. However you are a short drive from AB marine in Newport. They are the Autoprop dealers and are very helpful. I am sure they could rebuild your prop in a few days. Otherwise they can sell you the parts and rent you the tools. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:17 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm
Ken
When you service the propeller, exactly what is done? Is it new bearings? Can one fix that one self or do I need to send it away? We have clean bottom and newly Velox on the propeller, and Greased the propeller but it only reach 2600 rev on our TMD 22. Before we reached 2800, I thought it might be the turbo being slow and need cleaning again, or the injectors. We hade the turbo serviced 1000 h ago, do not know how often one should service it, we try to now and then runthe engine hard for 20 to 30 minutes to clean out some carbon dust. Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 currently in Bristol RI
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maitenance
greatketch@...
For most things, plain old vinegar is a good solution. It's cheap, and the only thing you need to keep it away from is nylon. For cleaning the bilge sump, and other places where the problem is grease, a little bit of Dawn dish soap, hot water, a brush and some elbow grease is the best solution. It won't hurt anything, and is quite effective. On our boat, those are the two cleaning products that get used 90% of the time. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Boston, Mass ---In amelyachtowners@..., <bazgrayson@...> wrote : Hi All, so Bleach is bad. What is the best alternative to use to clean the showers and heads and anything else that goes into the bilge or will touch copper tubes? Alan Grayson Not an owner yet ( but hopefully soon) if everyone stops buying all the inventory
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maitenance
Bill K,
I stand by my usage of bleach. The only copper in the bilge area is the copper grounding (which I easily replaced shortly after purchasing). While I agree bleach is a corrosive agent to copper, I do not think the 2 cups of bleach used every two or three months diluted with about 3 gallons of water and then flushed with fresh water is going to destroy my Amel. I see no evidence of corrosion to my copper grounding (which I inspect during each cleaning) and have used bleach for 5 years to clean the bilge.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Grenada www.creampuff.us
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amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I know bleach (sodium hypochlorite) is a great cleaning agent, but in the concentrations being talked about it is actually quite corrosive to copper. It would be best to avoid its frequent use in the sump if you want you copper grounding strap to last.
Bill Kinney SM160m Harmonie Boston, Mass
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Pat, Sorry, my assumption was that you had an AutoProp. Please disregard my earlier posting. CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Aug 27, 2017 10:53 AM, "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Don't pole out the Genaker?
Sorry for Yankee read Code Zero - your Genakker is probably the same sail by the different name.
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peter
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Don't pole out the Genaker?
Thomas,
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yes I would have liked two poles but didn’t have that - as for the angle this kit works only from about 165P to 175S or vice versa with the pole on the windward side but if you had 2 poles then I guess 165 - 165. And Yes my yankee could easily be your genakker - I think mine is Amel original. Peter
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Greasing the Bamar 1.01 Furler
Dean,
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I have a spare Bamar furler motor which is for sale through EMEK Marin in Turkey - If that is of interest? I took both mine off and replaced them with Reckmann before my circumnavigation. Peter Forbes Amel 54 #035 Carango
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Re: rpm, AutoProp maintenance, AutoProp for sale.
Hi Paul, I haven't actually done it myself. When Bruntons said they couldn't repitch my AutoProp (They've changed the design since mine), I bought a MaxProp. It's not as persnickety about fouling or maintenance affecting performance. I was convinced (due to my lack of knowledge, and agreement by mechanics who didn't understand AutoProps either) that the prop was OK. I didn't take the advice of the knowledgeable people here and I'm virtually certain that it cost me a bundle. You can find some posts about it if you search the conversations for AutoProp, they are probably 5-10 years back. My understanding is that you can order a rebuild kit and do it yourself. Let us know what you find. As an aside, I still have that AutoProp and will sell it at a reasonable price if someone wants it. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy SM243
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Greasing the Bamar 1.01 Furler
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Dean; We had the same issue with both our 1.02 bamar furlers. We had both of them removed, all bearings, seals and belts replaced. The access to the gears is the aft facing panel with the four screws. When you remove the screws, there will still be some sealant that holds the plate in place. You will have to use an alien wrench inserted from the small side into the screw holes to get some leverage and pull the plate out. DON'T USE A SCREW DEIVER as this will deform the aluminum plate and affect the seal. Once you have removed the front panel, if you see any evidence of water inside then the Furler most likely needs to be rebuilt.if not then clean the existing grease and pack the gears with new. The belt access is from the starboard side of the Furler. Once you remove the screws use a rubber hammer to work the cover loose. You just have to be very careful not to furl under load. You have to release the sheets and unload them so the head sail luffs a bit before furling. Make sure you are releasing the sheet at the same pace as furling. The main issue, other than placing excessive load, is the water penetration from the top seal. I'm looking for a good seal lubricant to try and extend the life of the seal and prevent the water penetration. Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo Amel 54 #099
On Aug 27, 2017, at 10:11 AM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm
Patrick McAneny
Kent , I have the Volvo 78 hp. and a fixed prop. I have been looking to buy a used regulator , no luck so far. Mine is about forty years old , draws hard and the pressure guage is cloudy , unreadable. When I find one I will call you about the hooka system . A single tank doesn't last too long.
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-----Original Message----- From: Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Sun, Aug 27, 2017 10:22 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm Hi Pat.
You may remember that I spent several $K trying to sort out the same problem right after I bought Kristy. The blades on my Auto Prop turned freely, so I convinced myself that it was OK. I wish I'd have serviced it early in the process, and believe it would have saved me a lot of time and money.
Do you have the 78HPVolvo TMD? No smoke?
I dove on my prop the other day in StMichaels and after 6 weeks the prop had 1/2inch of algae growing on the blades.
Do yo have an AutoProp? If it hasn't been serviced in a while, that's the first thing I would do after cleaning it up.
I bought a 100psi oil-less compressor a
t Harbor Freight, a 50ft hose, and a used 2nd stage regulator for under $150...it works a treat as a hookah system for cleaning the bottom, unfouling the prop, changing zincs, and could even allow me to i foul an anchor in 20 ft of water. It's a 110AC pump that I run with my inverter.
Let me know if you need some help.
Kent S/V Kristy SM243
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Pat, I believe that you need to eliminate any sort of propeller fouling before doing anything else because it is the most common issue followed with the AutoProp needing a bearing kit. Next will be turbo and fuel system. CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Aug 27, 2017 10:17 AM, "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Don't pole out the Genaker?
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Thomas, I think that we all have to understand how Amel will answer general and non-specific questions like, "...is it OK to fly a code zero on a pole." I know what my answer would be because if I said yes, I would foolishly accept serious liability with zero reward. I believe that it is a decision that you'll need to make. I would urge you to ask the question to owners so that you get information to make your decision and recognize that non-Amel specified sails can be very different in terms of size, cut, and construction. And that wind angle and speed, along with other concurrent set sails play an important part of your decision. I am sure that you realize that there are zero answers to your original question. CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Aug 27, 2017 9:52 AM, "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55
jhe1313@...
Gavin, I own a 55 and have gone upwind in 35 kn plus In the Strait of Gibraltar. We had the staysail and a heavily reefed main up. The boat was going 6.5 kn at 30 to 35 apparent wind angle and was generally behaving great. When the wind was going above 35, kn we furled a bit of the staysail. The curler worked fine. But to tack, you need to furl the staysail. Otherwise, you will shred the staysail sheets on the fittings for the pole. You will need the runners on hard, using the small cockpit winches as per the Amel instructions. Hope that helps. Cheers Joerg
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maitenance
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Alan, I stand by the use of bleach as I stated earlier which was a very diluted solution for a limited time and exposure only to the bilge and copper bonding strap. I think you need the bleach to kill the bad stuff in there. The only slight risk issue is the copper bonding strap which you will likely need to replace every 5-8 y,ears, anyway. So, maybe my suggestion will cause you to replace that copper X months earlier. Almost every decision that you will make requires weighing and mitigating risks. For instance, if you don't run your engine, or set your sails, they may never need replacing. Or, if you don't run your engine and keep your sails flogging, you'll hurt your sails and lower engine hours. Does this make sense? CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Aug 27, 2017 9:05 AM, "bazgrayson@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm
Ken Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 currently in Bristol RI
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Re: Greasing the Bamar 1.01 Furler
Thanks Porter and Bill,
Will start with the grease packing and take it from there. We've owned the boat for 3 weeks, already sailed 1000 miles and put 130 hours on the motor. Jan and I absolutely love the boat. We just have a few issues to resolve with things like LED lights, aircon pump, the furler and installing a new solar system. Porter, I noticed you installed an Emek arch with solar, which looks great. We already have Simpson Lawrence davits, so we're looking for a walk-under arch solution which will fit on top of the davits. I have 720W of panels, and plan to use the Victron 150/35 charge controller. Where did you locate your controller? Cheers Dean SY Stella AMEL 54 #154
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm
Brenton's, the US AutoProp people told me that mine was pitched for a 100 HP Yanmar, not my 78HP Volvo. Amel said they've used the same prop for both engines without problems. Others with this problem have serviced the prop and solved the problem. Kent S/V Kristy SM243
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rpm
Hi Pat. You may remember that I spent several $K trying to sort out the same problem right after I bought Kristy. The blades on my Auto Prop turned freely, so I convinced myself that it was OK. I wish I'd have serviced it early in the process, and believe it would have saved me a lot of time and money. Do you have the 78HPVolvo TMD? No smoke? I dove on my prop the other day in StMichaels and after 6 weeks the prop had 1/2inch of algae growing on the blades. Do yo have an AutoProp? If it hasn't been serviced in a while, that's the first thing I would do after cleaning it up. I bought a 100psi oil-less compressor at Harbor Freight, a 50ft hose, and a used 2nd stage regulator for under $150...it works a treat as a hookah system for cleaning the bottom, unfouling the prop, changing zincs, and could even allow me to i foul an anchor in 20 ft of water. It's a 110AC pump that I run with my inverter. Let me know if you need some help. Kent S/V Kristy SM243
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