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Correction [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

eric freedman
 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 5:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

 

 

Paul,

The big hose that connects from the C drive to the hull is open to the sea. Be careful if you play with that.

You would only get sea water if this is leaking.

 

If your C drive is like the one on my Yanmar , the big bracket is held on to the C drive with 4 bolts.  There is no oil there.

 

Check  the hoses from the expansion tank of the C drive.

 

If all is good then you probably have a leak from the very large lip seal on the C drive . It is in the C drive facing the engine. I would look under the C drive towards the engine and see if there is any evidence of oil leaking there, If so it would probably be the big lip seal. To replace that lip seal you would have to move the engine forward and disconnect the coupling from the C drive from the coupling/transmission.

 

I just replaced that lip seal on Kimberlite.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

 

 

Thank you

We have eliminated the oil from the engine, which was my first choice of source. We do have to fill more oil on the reservoir above after ca 100 h. 

Will see if the allen screws are all tight and if it breath from the oil reservoir

Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259.

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viking propane cylinder

Paul Osterberg
 

We use them extensively in Sweden. Is it in US there have been problem to fill?
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

eric freedman
 

Paul,

The big hose that connects from the C drive to the hull is open to the sea. Be careful if you play with that.

You would only get sea water if this is leaking.

 

If your C drive is like the one on my Yanmar , the big bracket is held on to the C drive with 4 bolts.  There is no oil there.

 

Check  the hoses from the expansion tank of the C drive.

 

If all is good then you probably have a leak from the very large lip seal on the C drive . It is in the sail drive facing the engine. I would look under the sail drive towards the engine and see if there is any evidence of oil leaking there, If so it would probably be the big lip seal. To replace that lip seal you would have to move the engine forward and disconnect the coupling from the C drive from the coupling/transmission.

 

I just replaced that lip seal on Kimberlite.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

 

 

Thank you

We have eliminated the oil from the engine, which was my first choice of source. We do have to fill more oil on the reservoir above after ca 100 h. 

Will see if the allen screws are all tight and if it breath from the oil reservoir

Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259.

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viking propane cylinder

Mark Erdos
 

Paul,

 

There are very mixed reviews on the see-through propane gas cylinders. We purchased one for our BBQ and had problems getting it filled. A lot of propane filling stations will not fill these types of cylinders due to a recall that happen quite a few year ago. After several attempts to fill it we returned the cylinder for a refund and purchased an aluminum cylinder. It turned out to be cheaper for the aluminum one.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 3:32 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viking propane cylinder

 

 

We habe to chnage our camping gaz cylinders now when in USA. I like the Viking see through cylinders in kevlar.

The 17 lb should not be any problem to fit in the standard gas locker in our SM, but the 22 lb looks very tight.

Has anyone tried to fit a 22 lb Viking has cylinder in the standard gas locker of an SM?

Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Viking propane cylinder

Paul Osterberg
 

We habe to chnage our camping gaz cylinders now when in USA. I like the Viking see through cylinders in kevlar.

The 17 lb should not be any problem to fit in the standard gas locker in our SM, but the 22 lb looks very tight.

Has anyone tried to fit a 22 lb Viking has cylinder in the standard gas locker of an SM?

Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you
We have eliminated the oil from the engine, which was my first choice of source. We do have to fill more oil on the reservoir above after ca 100 h. 
Will see if the allen screws are all tight and if it breath from the oil reservoir
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark, 

I agree completely.

AND, the C Drive oil expands when the C Drive reaches operating temperature. Check to make sure that the cap on the oil reservoir is breathing to allow for expansion and that the reservoir is not overfilled.

Eliminate the simple things first.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970






On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 12:51 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Paul,

 

A couple of thoughts on this:

 

Any oil that leaks from the engine area will drain and accumulate on the aft side of the rubber housing on the c-drive. First, I think I would use a paper towel to plug the hole in the divider just aft of this to ensure it is not engine oil draining down to the c-drive. You will then collect oil in the floor compartment adjacent to this. I would bet a cold beer this is where the oil is coming from.

 

If you determine it is not coming from the engine, there are only a couple of areas on the c-drive that could possibly leak. The first is where the oil enters the c-drive from the bulkhead mounted fill container. Check the hose connections with a white paper towel for oil. Mark the housing of the plastic fill container and check it after a couple of hundred engine hours to see if in fact you have lost oil. Where the shaft enters the c-drive there are a bunch of allen head screws that seal the unit. Check these for tightness and wipe the lower lip with a paper towel. The only other area is the top of the unit. It would be obvious if you had an oil leak there.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

 

 

I have discovered some oil just aft of where the drive unit go throuh the hull. I.e below the flexi  coupling. No oil inthe bilge so the leak must be on the after part somewhere. I find ca 50 ml after  50 h of motoring.

There is a rubber "covarage" with hose clamps just where it go through hull could that be the source of leaking?

It could also be the big flange bolted to the drive, but no obvious drops of oil to be found

 

Anyone experience similar problem?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM 259. On the hard Yankee Point Marina Virginia



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Paul,

 

A couple of thoughts on this:

 

Any oil that leaks from the engine area will drain and accumulate on the aft side of the rubber housing on the c-drive. First, I think I would use a paper towel to plug the hole in the divider just aft of this to ensure it is not engine oil draining down to the c-drive. You will then collect oil in the floor compartment adjacent to this. I would bet a cold beer this is where the oil is coming from.

 

If you determine it is not coming from the engine, there are only a couple of areas on the c-drive that could possibly leak. The first is where the oil enters the c-drive from the bulkhead mounted fill container. Check the hose connections with a white paper towel for oil. Mark the housing of the plastic fill container and check it after a couple of hundred engine hours to see if in fact you have lost oil. Where the shaft enters the c-drive there are a bunch of allen head screws that seal the unit. Check these for tightness and wipe the lower lip with a paper towel. The only other area is the top of the unit. It would be obvious if you had an oil leak there.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oil leak on the "c" drive

 

 

I have discovered some oil just aft of where the drive unit go throuh the hull. I.e below the flexi  coupling. No oil inthe bilge so the leak must be on the after part somewhere. I find ca 50 ml after  50 h of motoring.

There is a rubber "covarage" with hose clamps just where it go through hull could that be the source of leaking?

It could also be the big flange bolted to the drive, but no obvious drops of oil to be found

 

Anyone experience similar problem?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM 259. On the hard Yankee Point Marina Virginia


Oil leak on the "c" drive

Paul Osterberg
 

I have discovered some oil just aft of where the drive unit go throuh the hull. I.e below the flexi  coupling. No oil inthe bilge so the leak must be on the after part somewhere. I find ca 50 ml after  50 h of motoring.

There is a rubber "covarage" with hose clamps just where it go through hull could that be the source of leaking?

It could also be the big flange bolted to the drive, but no obvious drops of oil to be found


Anyone experience similar problem?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM 259. On the hard Yankee Point Marina Virginia


Re: Fixing/replacing copper on holding tank

Derick Gates
 

My copper tubing at the base of the holding tank failed two years ago, both aft and forward heads within months of each other.  The copper tubing was so thin at that point that I could easily peel it out of the fiberglass sleeve with a pair of vice grips.  

I replaced the copper tubing in both cases with about 7 inches of 1.5 inch diameter PVC tubing.  I needed to use some wet/dry sand paper to remove a small volume of the PVC pipe so that it would snugly penetrate the fiberglass hole to the right depth (about 3 inches) and then I used silicone sealant to afix it.  The previous hose to the shut off valve fit on the PVC pipe without modification, using two hose clamps.  

This fix has worked well with no evidence of leakage.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently in Falmouth Harbour, Antigua


Washing machine replacement Amel 54, Super Maramu 2000 plus others

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The following will likely help you find a clothes washer replacement for either an Amel 54 or a Super Maramu 2000, and possibly other Amels since Amel has typically used house hold washers:

Here are links to some photos in the photo section of the Amel Owners Group. These photos are from an ad by www.unieuro.it

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/911367118/lightbox/876040189?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/876040189


The clothes washer in a SM2000 is a standard EU size which is 85X40X60cm (HxWxD). I have not seen a size for the front loading washer on the 54.

When we were in Barcelona Spain there were about 6 or 7 choices of brands/models that would fit perfectly. We bought a Bosch Series 4. The model number plate is attached to this email.

Here is a link to Unieuro's current washer offerings: 

I am sure that you can find a freight forwarder that can work with Unieuro, and you may be able to find the right size for an Amel 54...I wish I knew the size.

BTW, our clothes washer was working fine when we replaced it at 13 years old. We replaced it for two reasons: it was old and we were in a part of the world where replacement was easy. Consider this if you are in the EU and about to depart.

If someone is successful in arranging purchase and shipment using a freight forwarder from EU to North America or the Caribbean, please share the details with everyone here. Details like contact names, phone, costs, etc.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Planetary gear in main furling/outhaul gearbox

steve_morrison@...
 

Thank you Bill.  It would seem, at this stage of disassembly, the simplest thing is to replace them now if that is an option.  I really appreciate your voice here on the group and I thank you for taking the time to respond to direct emails.  I promise to not make a habit of it and overstep your generosity.

All the best to you,
Steve


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pickling winterizing watermaker

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Although, I have never been in climates requiring winterizing and have no experience with it, I believe that DOW Filmtec, the only manufacturer of membranes in the world, recommends DOWFROST to winterize. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Planetary gear in main furling/outhaul gearbox

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Steve,

Amel did stock the bronze gear for your model. SAV"at"amel.fr I assume they still do. I cannot tell you how much is too much.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Washing machine replacement on AMEL54

Andy Buxford
 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... wrote:

can you tell me which exact Electrolux model you bought?
The dimension of my current machine is 85,7 cm (height), 59,5 cm (width) ca.
50cm (depth).
European washing machines seem to be of standard dimensions, more or less.

The first Hotpoint machine I find at www.currys.co.uk (one of the UK's
major retailers) is described as 850 x 595 x 577 mm (H x W x D). I.E.
85cm x 59.5cm x 57.7cm.

Every machine on that site has the dimensions listed under the
"specifications" tab of its page - it looks like they all vary only by
a few cm of depth.

Andy.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pickling winterizing watermaker

Patrick McAneny
 

Paul, I winterizes my boat with glycol last year , no problem that I am aware of . However  it was an extremely mild winter,60 even 70s many days in Jan. and Feb..
If you get up to the northern part of the Bay , we live on the Sassafras River , four miles in from the Bay you see our SM on it's mooring . Drop a hook ,stay awhile. 
Pat& Diane
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, May 26, 2017 5:13 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pickling winterizing watermaker

 
Hello
We need to pickle our watermaker as we now in Cheasapeak Bay and the water is very murky. We will leave the boat in a spot where it could freeze. I was told that propylene glycol will do the job. Anyone who have any experince to pickle with propylene glycol?
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM #259


Re: Washing machine replacement on AMEL54

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

We bought our replacement washing machine for our SM353   from unieuro.it -- perhaps they have locations in other European countries.  Since we bought a closeout (not a floor model) from a location that was re-branding from "Euronics" to Unieuro, it may be an older model.  The closest current model would be Electrolux RWT1264ELW.  If you want to search an Italian website for a washing machine, search for "lavatrice" (washing machine) and "caricamento dall' alto" (loading from the top).  The load is usually 6 or 7 kgs, and the energy efficiency runs from A to A+++.

Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help

Stephanie DiBelardino
Currently in Nettuo, Rome, Italy

Stephanie Martino DiBelardino


Planetary gear in main furling/outhaul gearbox

steve_morrison@...
 

For those of you who have taken your gearboxes apart, how much wear is too much wear on the bronze teeth, and if necessary, has anyone managed to find a replacement?




I added a photo of the more worn of my two, though I am not sure if it will show up in the thread or not.


All the best,

Steve Morrison

sm380 TouRai

Brunswick, GA


Pickling winterizing watermaker

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello

We need to pickle our watermaker as we now in Cheasapeak Bay and the water is very murky. We will leave the boat in a spot where it could freeze. I was told that propylene glycol will do the job. Anyone who have any experince to pickle with propylene glycol?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM #259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Washing machine replacement on AMEL54

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi Barry,
the problems are, it stops running in the middle of the program, it has a lot of rust (the bottom looks totally rusty) and I was hoping to find a model that is more energy efficient.
Not sure if replacing the pump will solve my first problem, but I'm not an expert. It's 12 years old, and I'm seriously thinking about replaceing it..
Best Regards,
Alex



On Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:34 AM, "Barry Connor connor_barry@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Alex,
What's the problem with your washer? Mine wasn't working when I bought 2 years ago, it was the pump - replaced by myself, cost £30. Did it from the front, didn't have to take out the washer. Would have been A lot of work if I had to get it out.
Bosch in Marseille wanted over €300 to fix it.
Regards

Barry & Penny
"Lady Penelope II"
AMEL 54.  # 17


On May 25, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Dear Amelians,
The washing machine on my AMEL54 needs to be replaced. The Bosch model used on my boat, doesn't exist anymore and I couldn't find a new machine with the exact same dimensions. Are there brands / models out there that you recommend?
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer
SY NOSTRESS
currently @ Martinique