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Re: Masse negative leak

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Nick,

On our boat when I connect a cable from my laptop headphone socket to the aux input on the stereo the negative mass lights up.

Cheers,
Paul
S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ngtnewington Newington via groups.io
Sent: 21 July 2020 07:03
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Masse negative leak

Back sailing and all well aboard Amelia here in the windy Cyclades.
Since launching a few days ago I have found that the “ Masse” leak to the bonding system lights up on the negative side.
So far I have checked
1. both WC Motors
2. All the fans
3. Fridge system water cooling pump

There are clearly many potential candidates but the most likely????
Bulge pump? Windlasses? 24v alternator? Electric furlers??

Any ideas as to the most likely candidates?

Nick
Amelia sailing towards Siros. Greece.
AML 54 -019





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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Masse negative leak

ngtnewington Newington
 

Back sailing and all well aboard Amelia here in the windy Cyclades.
Since launching a few days ago I have found that the “ Masse” leak to the bonding system lights up on the negative side.
So far I have checked
1. both WC Motors
2. All the fans
3. Fridge system water cooling pump

There are clearly many potential candidates but the most likely????
Bulge pump? Windlasses? 24v alternator? Electric furlers??

Any ideas as to the most likely candidates?

Nick
Amelia sailing towards Siros. Greece.
AML 54 -019


Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Heinz,
Your batteries might not be able to handle the current draw of the Bow Thruster.  Take a look at the current draw during Bow Thruster use, and also look at the voltage while using the bow thruster....  Try charging your batteries completely, turn on the Genset, and your charger...  Then try the Bow Thruster again.  If it works, your problem is found..
Ken
SM2K#262
Aquarius


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 03:32 AM, heinz@... wrote:
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 
Edited

Stuart,

Though I am not completely sure why they would install two 500A shunts, the fact that they are in parallel probably answers the question.

When I use my Bow Thruster (which I sometimes refer to as the "Amel Battery Killer") in Aquarius we draw just over 400 amps.  When I first bought Aquarius, I was not looking at the amp meter when docking, it was all hands on deck.  I knew the Bow Thruster used a lot of current, but I also thought that the engine is running, and the 100 amp alternator is suppling a lot of the power...  Wrong...  When you are docking your engine is running at low RPM, and thus you will not get much current out of the alternator.  O, and even if I had my GenSet running, my charger will only charge at 100 Amps MAX.  So, I would still draw 300Amps, and that is still a massive current out of the batteries, especially lead acid batteries.  During my daily routines I would try to keep the draw on our AGM batteries less than 30 amps...  Didn't think much about the bow thruster, but it's one more reason to limit the amount of time you use the bow thruster.

Now to answer the question...  I would think that Amel did this because at some point (Probably due to the bow thruster) there is the possibility that the current draw exceeds 500A.  This would mean that the two 500Amp Shunts would have to be added to get the total amps in or out of the batteries.  

Try looking at your amp meter while you use the Bow Thruster...  In the A55 you might see up to 500amps.  I see that the A55 is fitted with a 12 HP Bow "Thirsty" motor.  That would be at the very least 380Amps!  I would be really interested to hear your current draw when using your A55 bow thruster...

Please let me know.

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2000#262
Looking to put her on the hard soon in Krabi Thailand


Re: Any data on B&G displays

 

Stephan,

Can you take a photo of the fuse location?

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 4:01 PM Stefan and Anne Deerberg <stefan.deerberg@...> wrote:
Hi Elja!

Today we checked the processor Blackbox. There we found a 50 cent blowing out fuse.
That’s it. 
The system is working probably and we placed a spare fuse for the next failure with tape outside on the processor box.
If you got some of these problems with your new old system again, just check the fuse. After 18 years they are allowed to blow away sometimes.

Good luck 

Stefan 

SM OYA, 
373, lonesome in the Tobago Cays 

Mobil: +49 172 7757444

On 18. Jul 2020, at 09:40, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

He Stefan last week i have the same problem , i maild and fone some houers  with B&g  on the end is the processor takes the data in give it to the digital unit but not to the analog units . The think like bill the processor is after 22 jaers on the end .
I make a post in the facebook groop , i am lucky and one menber sell me his old one compleat sythem
Try it also

Best Elja
SM Balu 222


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Re: Dive Compressor on a SM

Thomas Kleman
 

Paul- I'd appreciate your contact details plus those of your Coltri contact. Could you send a pic of your installation also to Lorient422atgmail ?

Thanks

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Hanalei Bay Kauii


Re: Any data on B&G displays

Stefan and Anne Deerberg
 

Hi Elja!

Today we checked the processor Blackbox. There we found a 50 cent blowing out fuse.
That’s it. 
The system is working probably and we placed a spare fuse for the next failure with tape outside on the processor box.
If you got some of these problems with your new old system again, just check the fuse. After 18 years they are allowed to blow away sometimes.

Good luck 

Stefan 

SM OYA, 
373, lonesome in the Tobago Cays 

Mobil: +49 172 7757444
stefan.deerberg@...




On 18. Jul 2020, at 09:40, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

He Stefan last week i have the same problem , i maild and fone some houers  with B&g  on the end is the processor takes the data in give it to the digital unit but not to the analog units . The think like bill the processor is after 22 jaers on the end .
I make a post in the facebook groop , i am lucky and one menber sell me his old one compleat sythem
Try it also

Best Elja
SM Balu 222


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Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

The contact info I have for Gwen is:
Gwen Marine Service in France
commande@... 
+33 05.46.41.68.41 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:00 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

It took us a month to figure out and had to ship to many different places in Greece, before we could put our hands on it. When it comes to electrical parts that may have been modified, it is best to contact Volvo France and Amel. The main Volvo factory is completely unaware of the modifications.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:55 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Mohammad,

 

Many thanks for your very swift reply! I wish I had known that before shipping the part to Grenada . Next time I want to order a part from Volvo I’ll tell them its an Amel!

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: 20 July 2020 19:44
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Hi Paul. We had the same exact issue.

 

Volvo sends their standard non-isolated engine to Volvo France, which does the ground isolation for Amel. This process does not get recorded to the serial number of the engine. Therefore, if you order a part from the serial number that Volvo France has changed, you will receive the wrong part.

 

The correct part number is 863169 CAPTEUR PRESSION. We ordered from Gwen Marine Service in France as recommended by Amel. They were 78 Euros each, 3 years ago. We also ordered a spare.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Hi all,

 

I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.

 

My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model

The sensor p/n is 3545696

 

I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor

Mohammad Shirloo
 

It took us a month to figure out and had to ship to many different places in Greece, before we could put our hands on it. When it comes to electrical parts that may have been modified, it is best to contact Volvo France and Amel. The main Volvo factory is completely unaware of the modifications.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:55 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Mohammad,

 

Many thanks for your very swift reply! I wish I had known that before shipping the part to Grenada . Next time I want to order a part from Volvo I’ll tell them its an Amel!

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: 20 July 2020 19:44
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Hi Paul. We had the same exact issue.

 

Volvo sends their standard non-isolated engine to Volvo France, which does the ground isolation for Amel. This process does not get recorded to the serial number of the engine. Therefore, if you order a part from the serial number that Volvo France has changed, you will receive the wrong part.

 

The correct part number is 863169 CAPTEUR PRESSION. We ordered from Gwen Marine Service in France as recommended by Amel. They were 78 Euros each, 3 years ago. We also ordered a spare.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Hi all,

 

I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.

 

My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model

The sensor p/n is 3545696

 

I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Cheers
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Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
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Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Mohammad,

 

Many thanks for your very swift reply! I wish I had known that before shipping the part to Grenada . Next time I want to order a part from Volvo I’ll tell them its an Amel!

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: 20 July 2020 19:44
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Hi Paul. We had the same exact issue.

 

Volvo sends their standard non-isolated engine to Volvo France, which does the ground isolation for Amel. This process does not get recorded to the serial number of the engine. Therefore, if you order a part from the serial number that Volvo France has changed, you will receive the wrong part.

 

The correct part number is 863169 CAPTEUR PRESSION. We ordered from Gwen Marine Service in France as recommended by Amel. They were 78 Euros each, 3 years ago. We also ordered a spare.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Hi all,

 

I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.

 

My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model

The sensor p/n is 3545696

 

I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Paul. We had the same exact issue.

 

Volvo sends their standard non-isolated engine to Volvo France, which does the ground isolation for Amel. This process does not get recorded to the serial number of the engine. Therefore, if you order a part from the serial number that Volvo France has changed, you will receive the wrong part.

 

The correct part number is 863169 CAPTEUR PRESSION. We ordered from Gwen Marine Service in France as recommended by Amel. They were 78 Euros each, 3 years ago. We also ordered a spare.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor

 

Hi all,

 

I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.

 

My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model

The sensor p/n is 3545696

 

I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Volvo oil pressure sensor

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.

 

My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model

The sensor p/n is 3545696

 

I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: SM 1990 drive unit seals

Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi
 

Hi Mitchell,

Thanks!!
Our fibreglass did not have the aluminium part, at least not since we have the boat, we have taken it apart many times in the 20 years we have her, probably Amel made the change after our hull.
We changed all the bearings and gears in the upper part, but didn’t touch the lower.
Have you changed the viscosity of the oil you use or do you still use the 15W 40?
All the best,
Helen and Kostas on Meditation SM 29 of 1990


On 20 Jul 2020, at 12:03 AM, Mitchell Petersen <Mitchell.j.petersen@...> wrote:


I have the aluminium one which I recently fully rebuilt with all new bearings on both the upper and lower unit which requires cutting through the fibreglass and glassing back to original shape.

There is meant to be a small (approx. 2-3 inches) section of aluminium tubing glassed into the lower unit where the propelled shaft exits the until / where the fibreglass tapers which sounds like is no longer there since your service.

Mitchell 
SN33 1993

On Sat., 18 Jul. 2020, 1:11 am Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi, <helenmi57@...> wrote:
I’m sending the plans Maud sent me. It’s not exactly like any of them.
We’ve measured the difference between the aluminum and the fibreglass and it’s 3mm, but again there is nothing to hold an O-ring in place.

Many thanks,
Helen and Kostas Meditation SM 29 in 1990


On 17 Jul 2020, at 6:04 PM, Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi via groups.io <helenmi57=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the prompt reply!
Unfortunately ours is different and doesn’t have the O rings , or any likely place to put one. I’m sending you photos to see what ours is like. On looking at the plans Amel sent us our set up is not exactly those either. We have bolts to fix it in place which are inserted from under the fibreglass part, shown in one of the photos. 
It might be possible to put an O-Ring around the aluminum part which inserts slightly into the fibreglass, only there is nothing there to hold it in place, any ideas will be very much appreciated!!
Thanks again 
Helen and Kostas on Meditation SM 29 of 1990

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On 17 Jul 2020, at 4:54 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


The drawing shows 2 each "Joint Toriques" which is an O-Ring. Follow this link.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 8:31 AM Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi <helenmi57@...> wrote:

We are having trouble with the seal between the transmission and the rest of the drive unit after having it serviced. The oil leaked out between the transmission box and the fibreglass part of the drive unit. The machine shop had used a paper gasket and some sort of red sealant. We are on anchor so are trying to do it ourselves.
We took it apart and resealed it , it leaked again after about 4 hrs motoring. We had used a high Temperature RTV gasket maker but no paper gasket because we thought that that was the way it was originally.
We have the plans from Amel, but it is not clear if there should be a paper gasket.
Should we try to find card to cut a gasket or try again with the RTV gasket maker? The fibreglass part is not in a very good condition.

Helen and Kostas on Meditation SM 29 of 1990


Re: 110 HP Yanmar raw water pump access

 

Porter,

Volvo has the same thing that was shown for Yanmar.

Volvo Penta Impeller Removal Tool 3843948 for D3 using impeller 21951352
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:31 AM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Could a Moly bolt, drywall bolt be helpful in removing the non-threaded impellers?
We've had 2 engines. The first impeller location (volvo d3-c) was a bear to deal with.  The second, a bit better (D3-H).  Always looking for solutions to ease the job.  

Porter
A54-152




On Jul 19, 2020, at 10:53 AM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Eric, Mark, and Bill,
Thanks for all the great suggestions. I am going to take all of them and keep the boat.

Mark, I have the impeller removal tool, but the last mechanic put it in backwards...Grrrr.

Thanks again,
Kent

On Jul 18, 2020 8:58 PM, "karkauai via groups.io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
I know a few SMo have repowered with the Yanmar 4JH4HTE.  The raw water pump is on the aft/starboard side next to the fuel tank. It's almost impossible for me to change the impeller without removing hoses and alternator, and even then it's hours of struggling and cussing before it's done.
I'm writing to ask others if they are having the same problem, and how they deal with it.  I'm considering removing that impeller and putting in a remote raw water pump. Previously mechanics have discouraged me from doing that, but I'm at wits end.

Any advice, thoughts, etc are greatly appreciated.

Kent
SM243
Kristy



Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts

 

stephane"at"pochon.com 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:50 PM Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:

Hello Joerg,

 

Thank you for your reply regarding the two shunts .

 

There are two and they appear to installed in parallel.

 

We don’t know why.

 

We hope to progress this directly .

 

Thank you for your suggestion of Thierry & Stephane at Pochon .

 

Do you have Stephane’s full email address please.

 

Stuart

 

A.55 in Panama

 

 




Re: SM 1990 drive unit seals

Mitchell Petersen
 

I have the aluminium one which I recently fully rebuilt with all new bearings on both the upper and lower unit which requires cutting through the fibreglass and glassing back to original shape.

There is meant to be a small (approx. 2-3 inches) section of aluminium tubing glassed into the lower unit where the propelled shaft exits the until / where the fibreglass tapers which sounds like is no longer there since your service.

Mitchell 
SN33 1993

On Sat., 18 Jul. 2020, 1:11 am Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi, <helenmi57@...> wrote:
I’m sending the plans Maud sent me. It’s not exactly like any of them.
We’ve measured the difference between the aluminum and the fibreglass and it’s 3mm, but again there is nothing to hold an O-ring in place.

Many thanks,
Helen and Kostas Meditation SM 29 in 1990


On 17 Jul 2020, at 6:04 PM, Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi via groups.io <helenmi57=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the prompt reply!
Unfortunately ours is different and doesn’t have the O rings , or any likely place to put one. I’m sending you photos to see what ours is like. On looking at the plans Amel sent us our set up is not exactly those either. We have bolts to fix it in place which are inserted from under the fibreglass part, shown in one of the photos. 
It might be possible to put an O-Ring around the aluminum part which inserts slightly into the fibreglass, only there is nothing there to hold it in place, any ideas will be very much appreciated!!
Thanks again 
Helen and Kostas on Meditation SM 29 of 1990

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<image1.jpeg>


On 17 Jul 2020, at 4:54 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


The drawing shows 2 each "Joint Toriques" which is an O-Ring. Follow this link.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 8:31 AM Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi <helenmi57@...> wrote:

We are having trouble with the seal between the transmission and the rest of the drive unit after having it serviced. The oil leaked out between the transmission box and the fibreglass part of the drive unit. The machine shop had used a paper gasket and some sort of red sealant. We are on anchor so are trying to do it ourselves.
We took it apart and resealed it , it leaked again after about 4 hrs motoring. We had used a high Temperature RTV gasket maker but no paper gasket because we thought that that was the way it was originally.
We have the plans from Amel, but it is not clear if there should be a paper gasket.
Should we try to find card to cut a gasket or try again with the RTV gasket maker? The fibreglass part is not in a very good condition.

Helen and Kostas on Meditation SM 29 of 1990


A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts

Stuart Hemingway
 

Hello Joerg,

 

Thank you for your reply regarding the two shunts .

 

There are two and they appear to installed in parallel.

 

We don’t know why.

 

We hope to progress this directly .

 

Thank you for your suggestion of Thierry & Stephane at Pochon .

 

Do you have Stephane’s full email address please.

 

Stuart

 

A.55 in Panama

 

 



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Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?

Porter McRoberts
 

Thank you for all the comments and suggestions. Our Ibis is prepared for the worst despite multiple attempts to allay concern. Better safe than sorry! I’ll relay our success or failures.

Loading today. Fingers crossed.

Porter
A54-152


Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.net

On Jul 19, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Doug Smith via groups.io <dugsmith98=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Porter,
We just unloaded from a transatlantic shipment, Palma to Ft Lauderdale, and left the main and mizzen in place. All other canvas removed, and no real issues besides the salt, and general dust from sitting on a transport ship. And of course the recent Saharan dust storm that crossed the atlantic with it. And of course the locusts and plague...2020...

Doug Smith
S/V Aventura, Amel 54-113
Deltaville, VA USA

On 7/14/20, 12:03 AM, "Porter McRoberts via groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io on behalf of portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Ladies and Gents.

A quick question if you would. We’re in the midst of shipping our Amel out of NZ with Sevenstar. Incidentally the delivery skipper encountered the marina manager who relayed multiple horror stories of transport ship’s smokestack ash and embers causing severe burns to sails, canvas sailboat decks etc. Needless to say I was taken aback. This was never discussed in our pregame !!!
Has anyone else encountered such issues?

I’d really appreciate any input.

Many thanks.

Porter

A54-152.




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Re: SM 1990 drive unit seals

Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi
 

Hi John,
Thanks a lot!!
Best regards,
Helen and Kostas 


On 19 Jul 2020, at 4:00 PM, John Clark <john.biohead@...> wrote:


My friend here in St Thomas has SM #24. He also has the aluminum drive.   Didier in Martinique rebuilt his drive a couple of years ago.  I will forward this to him and see if he has any insight.

Regards,  John

SV Annie SM 37
St Thomas USVI

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 11:31 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I did not understand your original email.

Apparently, you have the original aluminum C-Drive. I have never seen one of these. Someone told me that Amel replaced these. I do not know if that replacement story is accurate or not.

I do not believe that I can help you.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:11 AM Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi <helenmi57@...> wrote:
I’m sending the plans Maud sent me. It’s not exactly like any of them.
We’ve measured the difference between the aluminum and the fibreglass and it’s 3mm, but again there is nothing to hold an O-ring in place.

Many thanks,
Helen and Kostas Meditation SM 29 in 1990


On 17 Jul 2020, at 6:04 PM, Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi via groups.io <helenmi57=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the prompt reply!
Unfortunately ours is different and doesn’t have the O rings , or any likely place to put one. I’m sending you photos to see what ours is like. On looking at the plans Amel sent us our set up is not exactly those either. We have bolts to fix it in place which are inserted from under the fibreglass part, shown in one of the photos. 
It might be possible to put an O-Ring around the aluminum part which inserts slightly into the fibreglass, only there is nothing there to hold it in place, any ideas will be very much appreciated!!
Thanks again 
Helen and Kostas on Meditation SM 29 of 1990

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On 17 Jul 2020, at 4:54 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


The drawing shows 2 each "Joint Toriques" which is an O-Ring. Follow this link.


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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 8:31 AM Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi <helenmi57@...> wrote:

We are having trouble with the seal between the transmission and the rest of the drive unit after having it serviced. The oil leaked out between the transmission box and the fibreglass part of the drive unit. The machine shop had used a paper gasket and some sort of red sealant. We are on anchor so are trying to do it ourselves.
We took it apart and resealed it , it leaked again after about 4 hrs motoring. We had used a high Temperature RTV gasket maker but no paper gasket because we thought that that was the way it was originally.
We have the plans from Amel, but it is not clear if there should be a paper gasket.
Should we try to find card to cut a gasket or try again with the RTV gasket maker? The fibreglass part is not in a very good condition.

Helen and Kostas on Meditation SM 29 of 1990


Re: Vintage Maramu dinghy stowage

INUS - BUSCH
 

I have it inflated on the foredeck and it is strapped upside down. Very easy. The visibility from the helm is a little restricted, but for me the best solution so far.

 

Dieter

Fal-lera, Sharki #135

 

Von: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Im Auftrag von smiles bernard via groups.io
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juli 2020 19:48
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Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Vintage Maramu dinghy stowage

 

Wow that’s light!

When offshore do you use chicks on the deck and deflate or just strap it down inflated?

 

Likewise I’ve never seen the pudgy before - love a dinghy with a sail !

 

All the best

 

 



On 17 Jul 2020, at 14:31, INUS - BUSCH via groups.io <inusbusch@...> wrote:



@ Aras:  

I have never seen a Portland pudgy, it looks nice and sails!

What I have is a UL 270 Aluminum from 3d tender, inflatable with aluminium bottom, which fits on the fore deck of my sharki, weight is only 28 kg!

 

Dieter

Fal-lera, Sharki #135

 

Von: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Aras
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2020 15:16
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Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Vintage Maramu dinghy stowage

 

I traded in our inflatable for a Portland Pudgy. She tows quite nicely, however on longer passages I do have to mount it on the foredeck.  AS with the Maramu,  the Sharki's stern tapers quite a bit and the aft deck is not quite big enough to stow the Pudgy there.  So far I've been  stowing it upside down.  It makes it a bit harder to load and unload off the deck. I'm working on building a new cradle that would allow me to stow upright.

 

One other option I'm thinking about are low profile dink davits made of carbon fiber [the mizzen boom overhangs transom].  The davits would help greatly on short passages and make it easier to move boat around in tight places and improve visibility. Does anyone know of an outfit that works with carbon fiber?

 

Aras Grinius

S/V FIASCO

Sharki #163 1988

 

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 2:15 PM smiles bernard via groups.io <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi there

I’d be really interested to hear of others Maramu dinghy choice wrt stowage
The transom of the Maramu is quite a bit narrower than the SM and later models - as such davits don’t feel right as any dink would overhang the sides If the boat a lot

Plus I have a much treasured Hydrovane on the back

We currently carry an inflatable and also a nesting affair I made

The nesting dinghy stows Inverted under the mizzen boom but that space is not big enough for the inflatable which I pack up and stow in the fwd locker

Really interested in the options people have explored.

Does anyone mount their dinghy right side up on the deck on the foredeck? I’ve seen a few SMs with this setup but feels tight re space on the Maramu

All the very best

Miles
Maramu 162


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Aras Grinius