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Re: Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

Davi Rozgonyi
 

Paul! I think of losing toes every time I close that thing :) But thinking on it now, it would be far easier and not mess with the access like struts would, if you just took a foot long piece of fat pool noodle and tied it to one corner of the locker with a short line. When you open it, you flip up the noodle. If it falls, the noodle takes the brunt of it, not your toe....  

Re: 𝘼𝙢𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙩𝙚𝙙 𝙖 𝙒𝙤𝙧𝙡𝙙 𝙏𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙝𝙤𝙪𝙡𝙙 𝙗𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙙

 


Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 6:40 PM sbmesasailor via groups.io <sbmesasailor=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I'm glad you noted "world tour" rather than circumnavigated as that allows a wider interpretation.

Maramu 121 Libertad 2017 Dennis & Virginia Johns SailBlog: s/v Libertad

Re: 𝘼𝙢𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙩𝙚𝙙 𝙖 𝙒𝙤𝙧𝙡𝙙 𝙏𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙨𝙝𝙤𝙪𝙡𝙙 𝙗𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙙

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Bill,

I'm glad you noted "world tour" rather than circumnavigated as that allows a wider interpretation.

Maramu 121 Libertad 2017 Dennis & Virginia Johns SailBlog: s/v Libertad

Re: Does anybody have a source for the Dirupter 60 Amp breaker?

eric freedman
 

Did you drop a note to Alexandre formerly of Nikimat. He had a ton of unused spares.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karen Smith via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Does anybody have a source for the Dirupter 60 Amp breaker?

 

Does anybody have a source they can share?

 

We are working on an Amel 54 and have found the Diruptor 60 AMP breaker for the staysail furler has failed.  Getting Diruptor breakers in the USA is always a challenge, but between this larger size breaker and the general disruptions right now I am coming up totally blank.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  This is a Diruptor “Yellow Series Breaker”, also called the “7500 series”  Single pole, 60 Amp.

In the past, we have gotten Diruptor brand breakers from Plastimo distributors, but they do not stock sizes larger than 32 amps.

Thanks!
Karen & Bill 
s/v Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, US

Re: Does anybody have a source for the Dirupter 60 Amp breaker?

eric freedman
 

Hi Did you ask Maud if she can get you one? Considering the price of FedEx, I would order a few other breakers at the same time.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Germain Jean-Pierre
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 5:56 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Does anybody have a source for the Dirupter 60 Amp breaker?

 

I found some at LEGRAND ELECTRICS in France... some years ago...

 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera,SM007, NZ



On 4/04/2020, at 10:44 AM, Karen Smith via groups.io <karenharmonie@...> wrote:



Does anybody have a source they can share?

 

We are working on an Amel 54 and have found the Diruptor 60 AMP breaker for the staysail furler has failed.  Getting Diruptor breakers in the USA is always a challenge, but between this larger size breaker and the general disruptions right now I am coming up totally blank.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  This is a Diruptor “Yellow Series Breaker”, also called the “7500 series”  Single pole, 60 Amp.

In the past, we have gotten Diruptor brand breakers from Plastimo distributors, but they do not stock sizes larger than 32 amps.

Thanks!
Karen & Bill 
s/v Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, US

Re: Does anybody have a source for the Dirupter 60 Amp breaker?

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

I found some at LEGRAND ELECTRICS in France... some years ago...

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera,SM007, NZ


On 4/04/2020, at 10:44 AM, Karen Smith via groups.io <karenharmonie@...> wrote:



Does anybody have a source they can share?

 

We are working on an Amel 54 and have found the Diruptor 60 AMP breaker for the staysail furler has failed.  Getting Diruptor breakers in the USA is always a challenge, but between this larger size breaker and the general disruptions right now I am coming up totally blank.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  This is a Diruptor “Yellow Series Breaker”, also called the “7500 series”  Single pole, 60 Amp.

In the past, we have gotten Diruptor brand breakers from Plastimo distributors, but they do not stock sizes larger than 32 amps.

Thanks!
Karen & Bill 
s/v Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, US

Does anybody have a source for the Dirupter 60 Amp breaker?

Karen Smith
 

Does anybody have a source they can share?

 

We are working on an Amel 54 and have found the Diruptor 60 AMP breaker for the staysail furler has failed.  Getting Diruptor breakers in the USA is always a challenge, but between this larger size breaker and the general disruptions right now I am coming up totally blank.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  This is a Diruptor “Yellow Series Breaker”, also called the “7500 series”  Single pole, 60 Amp.

In the past, we have gotten Diruptor brand breakers from Plastimo distributors, but they do not stock sizes larger than 32 amps.

Thanks!
Karen & Bill 
s/v Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, US

Re: Chain counter

Jim Anderson
 

Hi William,

 

ON SM384 the Display of meters will power off if you press and hold the button for about 15 seconds. The amber LED on the port side of windlass itself will go out if I turn off both the switch and the circuit breaker for the “Guindeau” (surely spelled wrong as I’m not aboard), in the forward cabin, forward, port locker. Hope this helps,

 

Jim

SM384

Sirena Azul

Seattle

Re: Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Davi - to add to Jamie's comment, I've had 4 or 5 breakers fail since my boat reached about 15 years old. Your A54 is getting to that point, so I wouldn't consider it surprising to see a failure. Fortunately, and as designed, the failures leave the breaker open.
Craig

Re: Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

 

Davi,

That entire board is removable. Look for the single black thumbscrew inside the door where the breaker is located. I have known this breaker to fail, but it is unusual.

BTW, when you have the board loose, there is plenty of wire to pull that board out so that you can operate on it. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 11:33 PM Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:
Hey Amelians! So I'm stuck here in total lockdown in Greece (really can't complain, it's amazing), so it's not a tragedy, but the circuit breaker on the windlass/genoa circuit of our SM is tripped at some point this winter (in the last few weeks sometime) and won't stay in the up/on position. Being in lockdown, getting parts is almost impossible, but I do have a spare 100A circuit breaker that would fit. Since the space to install is very limited (I can't even put a multimeter probe on the top of the breaker without pulling things out), I was hoping I could get confirmation from y'all that the circuit breaker is the most likely culprit....

SYMPTOMS: When I use the dashboard switches for windlass or genoa (or the foot switch for the windlass also), the solenoids in the cabinet click happily and strongly. But the breaker stays down, and nothing will keep it up. When I cut the 24v power at the battery banks, the circuit breaker still will not remain on. If I hold the breaker open/up and have someone activate the switches in the cockpit, still nothing but clicking from the solenoids. 

Anyone see a problem with swapping out that breaker as the fix? How often do they fail? I don't remember a broken breaker being a very common thing in my life, so just wondering before I wedge myself up there and start hammering :D 

Many thanks! 
Davi
Wake
SM56

Re: Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

Jamie Wendell
 

Davi, almost certainly it is a defective breaker. The breaker should stay on if you flip it on WITHOUT power to the circuit. The fact that it always stays off indicates a broken latching mechanism in the breaker.
Good luck with replacement and you "stay" in Greece.
Stay safe.
Jamie
Phantom, A54 #44

Re: Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

Davi Rozgonyi
 

Hey there, and thanks! Our windlass has no switch on top, so that's out. I'm betting on the bad circuit breaker still.... 

Re: Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

Marco Mancini
 

DEARS, 
it could be that the  two windlass  switches on the top of the anchor windlass maight  allow some water infiltration that  causes the problems of the short circuit with the relative high ampere flux. 
We had to substitute the switches  . 
Cheers
marco mancini 
SM 304


Il giorno 03 apr 2020, alle ore 06:33, Davi Rozgonyi via groups.io <davi.rozgonyi@...> ha scritto:

Hey Amelians! So I'm stuck here in total lockdown in Greece (really can't complain, it's amazing), so it's not a tragedy, but the circuit breaker on the windlass/genoa circuit of our SM is tripped at some point this winter (in the last few weeks sometime) and won't stay in the up/on position. Being in lockdown, getting parts is almost impossible, but I do have a spare 100A circuit breaker that would fit. Since the space to install is very limited (I can't even put a multimeter probe on the top of the breaker without pulling things out), I was hoping I could get confirmation from y'all that the circuit breaker is the most likely culprit....

SYMPTOMS: When I use the dashboard switches for windlass or genoa (or the foot switch for the windlass also), the solenoids in the cabinet click happily and strongly. But the breaker stays down, and nothing will keep it up. When I cut the 24v power at the battery banks, the circuit breaker still will not remain on. If I hold the breaker open/up and have someone activate the switches in the cockpit, still nothing but clicking from the solenoids. 

Anyone see a problem with swapping out that breaker as the fix? How often do they fail? I don't remember a broken breaker being a very common thing in my life, so just wondering before I wedge myself up there and start hammering :D 

Many thanks! 
Davi
Wake
SM56

Re: Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Davi,

If it is a swap to a new breaker of the same capacity that is a reasonable test with low risk. Just do not hold it up if it pops.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 April 2020 at 19:19 Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

Hey Danny, just to clarify, the breaker there now is 100A, so this is a straightforward swap. I'm trying to get my head around the odds it is the breaker. Both windlass and genoa worked fine a week before this. Wouldn't the breaker stay up if the battery power was cut off to the circuit if it was still good, even if there were a short? There should be no power going to the devices, hence no short to flip the breaker...? 

Re: Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

Davi Rozgonyi
 

Hey Danny, just to clarify, the breaker there now is 100A, so this is a straightforward swap. I'm trying to get my head around the odds it is the breaker. Both windlass and genoa worked fine a week before this. Wouldn't the breaker stay up if the battery power was cut off to the circuit if it was still good, even if there were a short? There should be no power going to the devices, hence no short to flip the breaker...? 

Re: Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Davi,

I would advise care. A breaker pops usually because there is a short circuit down stream from it. It is there to stop wiring burning or electrical gear being damaged. So adding a high amp replacement is high risk.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 April 2020 at 17:33 Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

Hey Amelians! So I'm stuck here in total lockdown in Greece (really can't complain, it's amazing), so it's not a tragedy, but the circuit breaker on the windlass/genoa circuit of our SM is tripped at some point this winter (in the last few weeks sometime) and won't stay in the up/on position. Being in lockdown, getting parts is almost impossible, but I do have a spare 100A circuit breaker that would fit. Since the space to install is very limited (I can't even put a multimeter probe on the top of the breaker without pulling things out), I was hoping I could get confirmation from y'all that the circuit breaker is the most likely culprit....

SYMPTOMS: When I use the dashboard switches for windlass or genoa (or the foot switch for the windlass also), the solenoids in the cabinet click happily and strongly. But the breaker stays down, and nothing will keep it up. When I cut the 24v power at the battery banks, the circuit breaker still will not remain on. If I hold the breaker open/up and have someone activate the switches in the cockpit, still nothing but clicking from the solenoids. 

Anyone see a problem with swapping out that breaker as the fix? How often do they fail? I don't remember a broken breaker being a very common thing in my life, so just wondering before I wedge myself up there and start hammering :D 

Many thanks! 
Davi
Wake
SM56

Windlass/Genoa Furler electrical problem, circuit breaker bad?

Davi Rozgonyi
 

Hey Amelians! So I'm stuck here in total lockdown in Greece (really can't complain, it's amazing), so it's not a tragedy, but the circuit breaker on the windlass/genoa circuit of our SM is tripped at some point this winter (in the last few weeks sometime) and won't stay in the up/on position. Being in lockdown, getting parts is almost impossible, but I do have a spare 100A circuit breaker that would fit. Since the space to install is very limited (I can't even put a multimeter probe on the top of the breaker without pulling things out), I was hoping I could get confirmation from y'all that the circuit breaker is the most likely culprit....

SYMPTOMS: When I use the dashboard switches for windlass or genoa (or the foot switch for the windlass also), the solenoids in the cabinet click happily and strongly. But the breaker stays down, and nothing will keep it up. When I cut the 24v power at the battery banks, the circuit breaker still will not remain on. If I hold the breaker open/up and have someone activate the switches in the cockpit, still nothing but clicking from the solenoids. 

Anyone see a problem with swapping out that breaker as the fix? How often do they fail? I don't remember a broken breaker being a very common thing in my life, so just wondering before I wedge myself up there and start hammering :D 

Many thanks! 
Davi
Wake
SM56

Re: Chain counter

 

It is powered by the Permanent 24/12VDC Transformer. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 8:27 PM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
My chain counter is powered up anytime the 24/12 volt is on. I have interrupter  switches  on all my 
electronics but I  cannot trace the counter power source.  It's not in any of the Amel wiring schematics.
Any suggestions?
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet  Amel Sm2k #331

Chain counter

william reynolds
 

My chain counter is powered up anytime the 24/12 volt is on. I have interrupter  switches  on all my 
electronics but I  cannot trace the counter power source.  It's not in any of the Amel wiring schematics.
Any suggestions?
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet  Amel Sm2k #331

A reminder #IMPORTANT

 

All,

Today a member of the Amel Yacht Owners Group notified me that they believed a recent message was "objectionable." Each of us has the right to tag a message as objectionable. This is the first time that this has happened.

As a reminder, the following is part of the Main Page of the Amel Yacht Owners Group:
We encourage postings which will genuinely help Amel owners source needed parts and services. We encourage you to support the Amel brand and be respectful to the brand in your postings. Care should be taken to not post anything that could be considered offensive or derogatory regarding Amel, any Member, or Sponsor. Please refrain from political issues, rude, or inappropriate language. Please refrain from criticism of persons or businesses in which you may have experienced unsatisfactory results, because it would be one-sided, without the ability of the other side to respond. Members will register with their given names rather than aliases. Members who currently own an Amel should always sign postings with their given name, boat name, Amel model, and hull number.  
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Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970