Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
Hello Courtney, Welcome to Brunswick. What dock are you on? There are 3 Super Maramu here. Duane and Peggy are on dock 9 with Wanderer, I am on dock 10 with my wife Kjersten and two daughters Tougy and Nurai on TouRai, and Paul and Tanya and their daughter Samantha are on dock 14 with Trillium. All the best, Steve Morrison SM 380 TouRai Brunswick, GA
On Jul 7, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
sorry, Sail is furled in and I cannot get it out. it is all the way in was unsure if I should just pull on it or if there is some better way.
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Courtney
Amel 54, Trippin'
Brunswick
-----Original Message----- From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 11:37 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler Courtney,
Could you be more specific? Is the sail stuck in the furled position? Is it part way furled? Will in go in but not out? What if anything have you tried so far? More details would help us know what the problem is.
Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote : Hi all,
After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling. Question is how do I solve the problem?
Thanks
Courtney
Amel 54 Trippin'
Brunswick
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
Greetings Courtney,
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I’ve had nothing but in mast furling boats and I’ve learned the following tricks: - HEAD into wind!!! - If your sail is in good condition, there should be no reason to get a jam. - Ensure your boom is horizontal. if you have a vang, release the tension. - Keep tension (light) on your outhaul as you furl in. In your case, I suspect the boom was not horizontal… if this is the case, you might have a “bunch up” about mid mast. Go up the mast and have an other CM furl in or out as you inspect the offender. Gently does it … it will fix it self when you are patient. Good luck Jean-Pierre Germain SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Curacao on the hard.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Courtney,
As you unfurl the sail, unfurl it to a point where it gets stuck but do not pull it tight. Snug the outhaul but not very tight. Secure the boom. Work the in mast furling motor back and forth a few times but not too much at once – perhaps a full turn or a couple of turns each direction. Keeping a little tension on the outhaul the whole time. The main sail should slowly start to become unsnagged as you work the in-mast furling back and forth. It takes a little finesse to work it back and forth. As the sail comes out keep the outhaul snug. Usually the snags will give as the sail is going into the mast.
Important: Do not over strain the motors. Do not try to force the sail with the motor. If the motor starts to strain, STOP and go the other direction.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Guadeloupe - Îles des Saintes
www.creampuff.us
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Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 10:30 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Hi all, After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling. Question is how do I solve the problem? Thanks Courtney Amel 54 Trippin' Brunswick
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-------- Original message -------- From: "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" Date: 7/7/17 9:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646
Thanks all for extensive responses. As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work. We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention.
Best wishes,
On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Thanks for the plug, Porter.
Every Amel owner should do their very best to contain saltwater when opening anything with saltwater. A combination of towels and suction will keep your Amel engine room looking new. And, it is no more trouble to do things the BEST way.
On Jul 5, 2017 09:35, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Mine is extremely rusty. Purchased that way: likely prior mechanic did not use the Bill Rouse wet/dry vac/ surgical suction method for total NaCl containment. Applied Corosion X, now unchanged and have a spare in the parts list.
Works fine however is a cosmetic issue at present.
-- GARULFO Amel 54 #122 Cap d'Agde, France
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Hi Courtney, Your question causes me to ask questions.
Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:29 AM, itsfun1 Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
greatketch@...
Courtney,
Could you be more specific? Is the sail stuck in the furled position? Is it part way furled? Will in go in but not out? What if anything have you tried so far? More details would help us know what the problem is. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Boston, Mass ---In amelyachtowners@..., <Itsfun1@...> wrote : Hi all, After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling. Question is how do I solve the problem? Thanks Courtney Amel 54 Trippin' Brunswick Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Hi all, After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling. Question is how do I solve the problem? Thanks Courtney Amel 54 Trippin' Brunswick Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Date: 7/7/17 9:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646 Thanks all for extensive responses. As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work. We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention. Best wishes, On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
GARULFO Amel 54 #122 Cap d'Agde, France
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646
Sv Garulfo
Thanks all for extensive responses. As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work. We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention. Best wishes,
On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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GARULFO Amel 54 #122 Cap d'Agde, France
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Re: mainsail furler motor/gearbox
Its probably silicone goop that's making it stick. Tap it with a soft headed hammer, it should separate from the gearbox...the motor shaft has a key on it, watch you don't lose it when pulling the motor off.
Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem
Mark thank you
Glad to offer you a beer whenever we meet. I reconnected the wires and now it works Paul on SY Kerpa SM259
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem
Paul,
We had a similar issue when reconnecting the motor wires in the anchor locker junction box. There were re-connected incorrectly. I’ll bet a beer this is where the problem lies. I can take a pic and send it to you tomorrow if needed????
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Guadeloupe - Îles des Saintes www.creampuff.us
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Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 5:34 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem
Just been launched after having copper coat applied on the bottom When reconnect the headsail furler motor cables, the motor only goes in one direction unfurl. no problem with current to the motor, when changing place on the cables in the junction box in the anchorbox, still motor only goes in one direction unfurling. so problem is in the motor itself, not with current to the motor When taking off the cover i found the motor warm even though we only run it for a few second. any one have encounter the same problem and know what could be wrong? could it be the carbon?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem
Hello Bill!
I do not know if you where right or wrong. But I did disconnect the cables and put them back again, and by a miracle it works again. I took both photos and video of the three cables before dismantle them to be 100% sure I put them back the correct way. Paul on SY Kerpa SM #259 soon leaving for Annapolis
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Paul, Although I have never dealt with electrical issues with that furler, that motor changes (reverses) rotational direction with reversing polarity...that is what those large relays do. I am betting that you are somehow connecting it wrong. Check it by disconnecting the motor, then check voltage polarity at the connection point. When you change from furl to unfurl, does the polarity change from 24 VDC Positive to Negative? CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 4:34 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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head sail furling motor problem
Just been launched after having copper coat applied on the bottom When reconnect the headsail furler motor cables, the motor only goes in one direction unfurl. no problem with current to the motor, when changing place on the cables in the junction box in the anchorbox, still motor only goes in one direction unfurling. so problem is in the motor itself, not with current to the motor When taking off the cover i found the motor warm even though we only run it for a few second. any one have encounter the same problem and know what could be wrong? could it be the carbon? Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzem mast radar cable
Porter McRoberts
Might I also suggest when pulling the cable with the existing sending line— also connect another sending line to the cable (to replace the one you’re using), so that when you’re finished you’ll again, have 2 sending lines.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler motor/gearbox
Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
Sorry for the incomplete post, I began to write and figured that it would be easier to just walk one dock over to his boat and talk with him. I didn't realize that what I had begun went through until now. We got it all apart with a few gentle taps of a mallet.
Steve Morrison SM380 TouRai Brunswick, GA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler motor/gearbox
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Duane, It is usually the Outhaul gearbox that needs attention and for that you need a 3 leg puller. If it is the Outhaul, Gary Silver posted detailed information in forum conversation posts and added separately photos in the Photo section. I combined everything that Gary posted and added a little more myself for pages on this subject for my Amel School Book. If it is the Furler, some of the attached will be valuable to you. I have attached those pages for you: Outhaul Service.pdf CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler motor/gearbox
Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
It should be all Du
On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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mainsail furler motor/gearbox
Duane Siegfri
I am trying to separate the mainsail motor from the gearbox. There are three bolts that screw from the gearbox flange into the motor. I've removed those and the gearbox is stuck. Before I put too much pressure on it I wanted to check to see if that's all that's needed prior to separation. Thanks, Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Re: Mizzem mast radar cable
rossirossix4
Hi Bill,
We replaced our Furuno with an HD Garmin last year. The new Garmin cable was much thinner--basically Cat 5 and an integrated power line. Because the Furnuo was a thick cable 10mm or so, pulling it out was a greater challenge than pulling the new one through. We attached the new cable to the upper end of the old and pulled down through the access panel on the port side of the base of the mizzen. Pulling the old Furuno cable out required a great deal of strength. About half way through the process we got smart and simply wrapped the Furuno around the self tailing winch on the mizzen and slowly and evenly pulled it through using the winch. We were careful with all that advantage but it was smooth as could be and we were able to detect when the upper connector reached the mizzen base to carefully finish the process. Bob, KAIMI SM 429
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