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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
 

Hello Courtney,

Welcome to Brunswick. What dock are you on?  There are 3 Super Maramu here. Duane and Peggy are on dock 9 with Wanderer, I am on dock 10 with my wife Kjersten and two daughters Tougy and Nurai on TouRai, and Paul and Tanya and their daughter Samantha are on dock 14 with Trillium. 

All the best,
Steve Morrison
SM 380 TouRai
Brunswick, GA


On Jul 7, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

sorry, Sail is furled in and I cannot get it out.  it is all the way in was unsure if I should just pull on it or if there is some better way.

Courtney
Amel 54, Trippin'
Brunswick


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

 
Courtney,

Could you be more specific?  Is the sail stuck in the furled position?  Is it part way furled?  Will in go in but not out? What if anything have you tried so far?  More details would help us know what the problem is.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi all,
After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling.  Question is how do I solve the problem? 
Thanks 
Courtney 
Amel 54 Trippin'
Brunswick 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

Courtney Gorman
 

sorry, Sail is furled in and I cannot get it out.  it is all the way in was unsure if I should just pull on it or if there is some better way.
Courtney
Amel 54, Trippin'
Brunswick


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

 
Courtney,

Could you be more specific?  Is the sail stuck in the furled position?  Is it part way furled?  Will in go in but not out? What if anything have you tried so far?  More details would help us know what the problem is.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi all,
After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling.  Question is how do I solve the problem? 
Thanks 
Courtney 
Amel 54 Trippin'
Brunswick 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Greetings Courtney,

I’ve had nothing but in mast furling boats and I’ve learned the following tricks:

- HEAD into wind!!!
- If your sail is in good condition, there should be no reason to get a jam.
- Ensure your boom is horizontal. if you have a vang, release the tension.
- Keep tension (light) on your outhaul as you furl in.


In your case, I suspect the boom was not horizontal… if this is the case, you might have a “bunch up” about mid mast.  Go up the mast and have an other CM furl in or out as you inspect the offender.  Gently does it … it will fix it self when you are patient.

Good luck


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Curacao on the hard.

On 7 Jul 2017, at 10:29, itsfun1 Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,
After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling.  Question is how do I solve the problem? 
Thanks 
Courtney 
Amel 54 Trippin'
Brunswick 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 7/7/17 9:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

Thanks all for extensive responses.
As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work.
We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention.

Best wishes,


On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the plug, Porter.

Every Amel owner should do their very best to contain saltwater when opening anything with saltwater. A combination of towels and suction will keep your Amel engine room looking new. And, it is no more trouble to do things the BEST way. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jul 5, 2017 09:35, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Mine is extremely rusty.  Purchased that way: likely prior mechanic did not use the Bill Rouse wet/dry vac/ surgical suction method for total NaCl containment.
Applied Corosion X, now unchanged and have a spare in the parts list.

Works fine however is a cosmetic issue at present.  




Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...







On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:12 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:


Hello Thomas;

 

As stated by others, the fuel pump should look clean, painted finish. The salt water from the raw water impeller will drip/pour over the fuel pump if preventative steps are not taken. If you do not see an active leak or evidence thereof, this would most likely explain the issue. We had the same issue when we purchased ours due to previous “mechanic’s” work. I have carefully cleaned it as best as possible and applied corrosionX to try to control the rust. (A coat of rust preventer, primer and paint may not be a bad idea).

 

I have also purchased a spare fuel pump, just in case.

 

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

 

Hello,

 

We have noticed our ONAN generator fuel pump is looking quite rusty.

Is it meant to deteriorate this way over time?

if not, do you know what might be the cause?

 

Photos here.

 

Thanks for your advice,

 

Thomas & Soraya 
-- 

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Cap d'Agde, France

 


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--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

Mark Erdos
 

Courtney,

 

As you unfurl the sail, unfurl it to a point where it gets stuck but do not pull it tight. Snug the outhaul but not very tight. Secure the boom. Work the in mast furling motor back and forth a few times but not too much at once – perhaps a full turn or a couple of turns each direction. Keeping a little tension on the outhaul the whole time. The main sail should slowly start to become unsnagged as you work the in-mast furling back and forth. It takes a little finesse to work it back and forth. As the sail comes out keep the outhaul snug. Usually the snags will give as the sail is going into the mast.

 

Important: Do not over strain the motors. Do not try to force the sail with the motor. If the motor starts to strain, STOP and go the other direction.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe - Îles des Saintes

 

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 10:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

 

 

Hi all,

After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling.  Question is how do I solve the problem? 

Thanks 

Courtney 

Amel 54 Trippin'

Brunswick 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]"

Date: 7/7/17 9:57 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

 

Thanks all for extensive responses.

As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work.

We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks for the plug, Porter.

 

Every Amel owner should do their very best to contain saltwater when opening anything with saltwater. A combination of towels and suction will keep your Amel engine room looking new. And, it is no more trouble to do things the BEST way. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

 

On Jul 5, 2017 09:35, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Mine is extremely rusty.  Purchased that way: likely prior mechanic did not use the Bill Rouse wet/dry vac/ surgical suction method for total NaCl containment.

Applied Corosion X, now unchanged and have a spare in the parts list.

 

Works fine however is a cosmetic issue at present.  

 

 

 

 

Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...

 

 

 

 

 

On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:12 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello Thomas;

 

As stated by others, the fuel pump should look clean, painted finish. The salt water from the raw water impeller will drip/pour over the fuel pump if preventative steps are not taken. If you do not see an active leak or evidence thereof, this would most likely explain the issue. We had the same issue when we purchased ours due to previous “mechanic’s” work. I have carefully cleaned it as best as possible and applied corrosionX to try to control the rust. (A coat of rust preventer, primer and paint may not be a bad idea).

 

I have also purchased a spare fuel pump, just in case.

 

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

 

Hello,

 

We have noticed our ONAN generator fuel pump is looking quite rusty.

Is it meant to deteriorate this way over time?

if not, do you know what might be the cause?

 

Photos here.

 

Thanks for your advice,

 

Thomas & Soraya 
-- 

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Cap d'Agde, France

 

 

 



 

--

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Cap d'Agde, France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi Courtney,

Your question causes me to ask questions.
  1. At what angle to the wind were you when furling and wind speed?
  2. Where is the mainsail stuck? 80% furled? 100% furled?
  3. Please confirm that the sails are original and battened?
  4. Do the outhaul and furler motors attempt to haul the sail, or is there no motor action?
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:29 AM, itsfun1 Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi all,
After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling.  Question is how do I solve the problem? 
Thanks 
Courtney 
Amel 54 Trippin'
Brunswick 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...om>
Date: 7/7/17 9:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

Thanks all for extensive responses.
As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work.
We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention.

Best wishes,


On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

Thanks for the plug, Porter.

Every Amel owner should do their very best to contain saltwater when opening anything with saltwater. A combination of towels and suction will keep your Amel engine room looking new. And, it is no more trouble to do things the BEST way. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jul 5, 2017 09:35, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
Mine is extremely rusty.  Purchased that way: likely prior mechanic did not use the Bill Rouse wet/dry vac/ surgical suction method for total NaCl containment.
Applied Corosion X, now unchanged and have a spare in the parts list.

Works fine however is a cosmetic issue at present.  




Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...







On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:12 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:


Hello Thomas;

 

As stated by others, the fuel pump should look clean, painted finish. The salt water from the raw water impeller will drip/pour over the fuel pump if preventative steps are not taken. If you do not see an active leak or evidence thereof, this would most likely explain the issue. We had the same issue when we purchased ours due to previous “mechanic’s” work. I have carefully cleaned it as best as possible and applied corrosionX to try to control the rust. (A coat of rust preventer, primer and paint may not be a bad idea).

 

I have also purchased a spare fuel pump, just in case.

 

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

 

Hello,

 

We have noticed our ONAN generator fuel pump is looking quite rusty.

Is it meant to deteriorate this way over time?

if not, do you know what might be the cause?

 

Photos here.

 

Thanks for your advice,

 

Thomas & Soraya 
-- 

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Cap d'Agde, France

 


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--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

greatketch@...
 

Courtney,

Could you be more specific?  Is the sail stuck in the furled position?  Is it part way furled?  Will in go in but not out? What if anything have you tried so far?  More details would help us know what the problem is.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


---In amelyachtowners@..., <Itsfun1@...> wrote :

Hi all,
After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling.  Question is how do I solve the problem? 
Thanks 
Courtney 
Amel 54 Trippin'
Brunswick 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



 


[Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi all,
After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling.  Question is how do I solve the problem? 
Thanks 
Courtney 
Amel 54 Trippin'
Brunswick 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 7/7/17 9:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

Thanks all for extensive responses.
As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work.
We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention.

Best wishes,


On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the plug, Porter.

Every Amel owner should do their very best to contain saltwater when opening anything with saltwater. A combination of towels and suction will keep your Amel engine room looking new. And, it is no more trouble to do things the BEST way. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jul 5, 2017 09:35, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Mine is extremely rusty.  Purchased that way: likely prior mechanic did not use the Bill Rouse wet/dry vac/ surgical suction method for total NaCl containment.
Applied Corosion X, now unchanged and have a spare in the parts list.

Works fine however is a cosmetic issue at present.  




Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...







On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:12 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:


Hello Thomas;

 

As stated by others, the fuel pump should look clean, painted finish. The salt water from the raw water impeller will drip/pour over the fuel pump if preventative steps are not taken. If you do not see an active leak or evidence thereof, this would most likely explain the issue. We had the same issue when we purchased ours due to previous “mechanic’s” work. I have carefully cleaned it as best as possible and applied corrosionX to try to control the rust. (A coat of rust preventer, primer and paint may not be a bad idea).

 

I have also purchased a spare fuel pump, just in case.

 

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

 

Hello,

 

We have noticed our ONAN generator fuel pump is looking quite rusty.

Is it meant to deteriorate this way over time?

if not, do you know what might be the cause?

 

Photos here.

 

Thanks for your advice,

 

Thomas & Soraya 
-- 

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Cap d'Agde, France

 


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--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

Sv Garulfo
 

Thanks all for extensive responses.
As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work.
We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention.

Best wishes,


On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the plug, Porter.

Every Amel owner should do their very best to contain saltwater when opening anything with saltwater. A combination of towels and suction will keep your Amel engine room looking new. And, it is no more trouble to do things the BEST way. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jul 5, 2017 09:35, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Mine is extremely rusty.  Purchased that way: likely prior mechanic did not use the Bill Rouse wet/dry vac/ surgical suction method for total NaCl containment.
Applied Corosion X, now unchanged and have a spare in the parts list.

Works fine however is a cosmetic issue at present.  




Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...







On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:12 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:


Hello Thomas;

 

As stated by others, the fuel pump should look clean, painted finish. The salt water from the raw water impeller will drip/pour over the fuel pump if preventative steps are not taken. If you do not see an active leak or evidence thereof, this would most likely explain the issue. We had the same issue when we purchased ours due to previous “mechanic’s” work. I have carefully cleaned it as best as possible and applied corrosionX to try to control the rust. (A coat of rust preventer, primer and paint may not be a bad idea).

 

I have also purchased a spare fuel pump, just in case.

 

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646

 

 

Hello,

 

We have noticed our ONAN generator fuel pump is looking quite rusty.

Is it meant to deteriorate this way over time?

if not, do you know what might be the cause?

 

Photos here.

 

Thanks for your advice,

 

Thomas & Soraya 
-- 

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Cap d'Agde, France

 


AAE.png>




--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


Re: mainsail furler motor/gearbox

Alan Leslie
 

Its probably silicone goop that's making it stick. Tap it with a soft headed hammer, it should separate from the gearbox...the motor shaft has a key on it, watch you don't lose it when pulling the motor off.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem

Paul Osterberg
 

Mark thank you
Glad to offer you a beer whenever we meet. I reconnected the wires and now it works
Paul on SY Kerpa SM259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem

Mark Erdos
 

Paul,

 

We had a similar issue when reconnecting the motor wires in the anchor locker junction box. There were re-connected incorrectly. I’ll bet a beer this is where the problem lies. I can take a pic and send it to you tomorrow if needed????

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe - Îles des Saintes

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 5:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem

 

 

Just been launched after having copper coat applied on the bottom

When reconnect the headsail furler motor cables, the motor only goes in one direction unfurl.

no problem with current to the motor, when changing place on the cables in the junction box in the anchorbox, still motor only goes in one direction unfurling. so problem is in the motor itself, not with current to the motor When taking off the cover i found the motor warm even though we only run it for a few second.

any one have encounter the same problem and know what could be wrong?

could it be the carbon?

 

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello Bill!
I do not know if you where right or wrong. But I did disconnect the cables and put them back again, and by a miracle it works again.
I took both photos and video of the three cables before dismantle them to be 100% sure I put them back the correct way.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM #259 soon leaving for Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] head sail furling motor problem

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

Although I have never dealt with electrical issues with that furler, that motor changes (reverses) rotational direction with reversing polarity...that is what those large relays do.

I am betting that you are somehow connecting it wrong. Check it by disconnecting the motor, then check voltage polarity at the connection point. When you change from furl to unfurl, does the polarity change from 24 VDC Positive to Negative?

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 4:34 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Just been launched after having copper coat applied on the bottom

When reconnect the headsail furler motor cables, the motor only goes in one direction unfurl.

no problem with current to the motor, when changing place on the cables in the junction box in the anchorbox, still motor only goes in one direction unfurling. so problem is in the motor itself, not with current to the motor When taking off the cover i found the motor warm even though we only run it for a few second.

any one have encounter the same problem and know what could be wrong?

could it be the carbon?


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259



head sail furling motor problem

Paul Osterberg
 

Just been launched after having copper coat applied on the bottom

When reconnect the headsail furler motor cables, the motor only goes in one direction unfurl.

no problem with current to the motor, when changing place on the cables in the junction box in the anchorbox, still motor only goes in one direction unfurling. so problem is in the motor itself, not with current to the motor When taking off the cover i found the motor warm even though we only run it for a few second.

any one have encounter the same problem and know what could be wrong?

could it be the carbon?


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzem mast radar cable

Porter McRoberts
 

Might I also suggest when pulling the cable with the existing sending line— also connect another sending line to the cable (to replace the one you’re using), so that when you’re finished you’ll again, have 2 sending lines.


Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...







On Jul 6, 2017, at 8:13 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I believe everything is covered in the prior total of posts on this subject:
  1. Lube the cable with either Cable Lube or liquid soap...Cable Lube is better. Cable Lube is found in Electric Supply shops and is used by electricians to pull wire through conduit.
  2. Don't pull the new cable with the old, but you can pull an new line down with the old cable, then use that line to pull the new cable up
  3. If you use one of the Amel installed pulling lines, you will find a piece of foam tied every 1-2 meters. This makes the line a little difficult to pull, but keeps the line from wrapping around existing cable. These anti-tangle pieces of foam also make everything going through that condit a little hard to pull.
  4. Be sure that the "pulling line" is correctly tied to the cable that you are going to pull. 
  5. Use strong pulling line...at least 50 pound test...no kite string here.
  6. If your pulling line breaks, Amel has at least 1 extra line at the spreaders and at the top of the mast...they are all coiled in a ball together at the foot of the mast.
  7. If you use an Amel installed line to pull a cable, when pulling the cable also pull a new line to replace what you used. Either you or the next owner will be thankful later.
CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550




On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all, I accidently sent the below unfinished, big fingers, small phone key pad.

See finished post below.

Danny

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: 06 July 2017 at 18:58
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzem mast radar cable

Hi Bill,

Just to offer that if you get a product called cable lube and lather the cable with it before you pull it. It doesn't leave residual mess and it is incredible how much easier it is to lull the cable. I have been told,  in the absence of cable lube KY jelly works. Haven't tried it myself. We've had a 1 litre bottle of the cable lube on board for 8 years.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 06 July 2017 at 13:00 "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

 

Hello All,


After 20 years of service our venerable Furuno 1831 has gone to the great boatyard in the sky, and it is time to install our new radar.


I am just about ready to climb the mast and change out the scanner, and am hoping someone here can prevent any unpleasant surprises when it is time to pull the new cable. I found where the cable goes into the base of the mast step in the aft head.  I have found the access plate and cable at the base of the mast.


Is the cable secured in any way inside the mast?  Can I just attach the new cable and use the old one to pull it up the mast?  I know others have done this job, any suggestions to make it go smoothly would be greatly appreciated!


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

 

Boston, Mass


 


 






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler motor/gearbox

Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
 

Sorry for the incomplete post, I began to write and figured that it would be easier to just walk one dock over to his boat and talk with him. I didn't realize that what I had begun went through until now. We got it all apart with a few gentle taps of a mallet.

Steve Morrison
SM380 TouRai
Brunswick, GA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler motor/gearbox

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

It is usually the Outhaul gearbox that needs attention and for that you need a 3 leg puller. If it is the Outhaul, Gary Silver posted detailed information in forum conversation posts and added separately photos in the Photo section. I combined everything that Gary posted and added a little more myself for pages on this subject for my Amel School Book. 

If it is the Furler, some of the attached will be valuable to you.

I have attached those pages for you:
Outhaul Service.pdf

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler motor/gearbox

Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
 

It should be all Du


On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I am trying to separate the mainsail motor from the gearbox.  There are three bolts that screw from the gearbox flange into the motor.  I've removed those and the gearbox is stuck.  Before I put too much pressure on it I wanted to check to see if that's all that's needed prior to separation.


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


mainsail furler motor/gearbox

Duane Siegfri
 

I am trying to separate the mainsail motor from the gearbox.  There are three bolts that screw from the gearbox flange into the motor.  I've removed those and the gearbox is stuck.  Before I put too much pressure on it I wanted to check to see if that's all that's needed prior to separation.


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Mizzem mast radar cable

rossirossix4
 

Hi Bill,
We replaced our Furuno with an HD Garmin last year.  The new Garmin cable was much thinner--basically Cat 5 and an integrated power line.  Because the Furnuo was a thick cable 10mm or so, pulling it out was a greater challenge than pulling the new one through.  We attached the new cable to the upper end of the old and pulled down through the access panel on the port side of the base of the mizzen.  Pulling the old Furuno cable out required a great deal of strength.  About half way through the process we got smart and simply wrapped the Furuno around the self tailing winch on the mizzen and slowly and evenly pulled it through using the winch.  We were careful with all that advantage but it was smooth as could be and we were able to detect when the upper connector reached the mizzen base to carefully finish the process. 
Bob, KAIMI SM 429