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Re: Perkins Prima M50 Transmission ratio

Aras Grinius
 

Excellent info Thank you Volker

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:03 AM Volker <Puchta@...> wrote:
Hi Aras,

the ratio on my original Perkins M50 / Hurth was 2,74:1
The prop is the original 19 x 13.
I am in the process to replace the engine by a Nanni N4.50 with TM 345 gear box with a 2:1 ratio. The yard will adapt the prop.

Volker
Mickmoon, Sharki no. 176



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Aras Grinius


Re: Perkins Prima M50 Transmission ratio

Volker
 

Hi Aras,

the ratio on my original Perkins M50 / Hurth was 2,74:1
The prop is the original 19 x 13.
I am in the process to replace the engine by a Nanni N4.50 with TM 345 gear box with a 2:1 ratio. The yard will adapt the prop.

Volker
Mickmoon, Sharki no. 176


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Anchor Locker

rossirossix4
 
Edited

Wanted to reinforce James's comment where he says "I try to pull my anchor chain out each time I am in a marina, rinse and dry the locker....I also keep the chain door open to vent as much as I can so that things can dry inside the locker."  In addition to keeping down wood rot it also prevents chain rust and I am willing to bet that most chain rust occurs in the chain locker when the chain is coated with damp salt for long periods of time.

Securing the chain locker access door can be a challenge .  I was recently running through photos and ran into this photo of a project I completed while we were locked down in Santa Marta, Colombia for 7 weeks about a year ago!

Using re-purposed stainless door stops you can make your locker door easier to position and perhaps it works as an incentive to vent the chain locker or to spray it out after chain is removed and rinsed with fresh water.

Self explanitary project photo is here-- https://photos.app.goo.gl/xrf5V6TP3dL5g9mx7    The door is easy to "hang"  on the opening while you dog down the wooden bar--all while trying to avoid crushing the AC ducting with your elbow!  Best to position and mark the holes of the door stops while the door is correctly positioned and then remove and drill and secure with screws--make sure you buy ones that are tall enough to grab the opening.  You can also add horizontal positioning but it seems unnecessary.

Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM429


Re: Rudder Post Bonding

Alan Leslie
 

Ours is in the lazarette, starboard side and it's actually copper foil, not a wire.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Self Insurance

Mark Erdos
 

If you are having trouble with insurance, contact The Marine Shop in NZ or Topsail in the UK. Both will write a policy with an A+ rated underwriter. If you are an OCC member, Topsail has a partnership with the OCC and offers members a discount. Both offer policies in US$ or Euros. In addition, there is the Growie Jackline insurance in the USA, SSCA can get discounts. Again, A+ rated underwriters but much more expensive than the UK or NZ (and will require a recent survey and rig inspection).

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Self Insurance

JB Duler
 

Aras,
IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, please help us by filling out the survey at: https://kivfinance.typeform.com/to/weCULvfW
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Self Insurance

JB Duler
 

Miles,

IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, please help us by filling out the survey at: https://kivfinance.typeform.com/to/weCULvfW
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Self Insurance

Brent Cameron
 

Hi Bill.  Yes, if this is successful, the plan is that owners be allowed to opt in to the plan at any time (assuming there is enough critical mass to even begin such an effort).  I actually live right on the shores of Lake Simcoe although right now you can drive on it and people are essentially living in ice fishing huts at the moment!  

Brent

On Mar 8, 2021, 7:00 PM -0500, Bill Schwanitz <billschwanitz@...>, wrote:
Hi Brent,

I see that you sign as a "Future Amel Owner", and that gets to the root of my question. If I haven't yet become a "Current Amel Owner" when this Amel Owners Insurance Group is officially formed, will there be a way for me to buy in once I have purchased my boat?

Cheers,
Bill

P.S. I see you live near Lake Simcoe. I used to spend most of my summers in the Kawarthas when I was a kid. Beautiful area!

--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Self Insurance

Bill Schwanitz
 

Hi Brent,

I see that you sign as a "Future Amel Owner", and that gets to the root of my question. If I haven't yet become a "Current Amel Owner" when this Amel Owners Insurance Group is officially formed, will there be a way for me to buy in once I have purchased my boat?

Cheers,
Bill

P.S. I see you live near Lake Simcoe. I used to spend most of my summers in the Kawarthas when I was a kid. Beautiful area!


Re: Self Insurance

Aras Grinius
 

My insurance expires in June, so I too would be interested for my Sharki.
Aras Grinius
Sharki #163 1988

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 5:11 PM Nat Bossett <nbossett@...> wrote:
Pantanaeus gave me reasonable notice that they were pulling out of the
USA market (and have been otherwise pleasant to work with, I'd contact
Lisa in their NY office again), but this was in the height of COVID here
so working with a yard and surveyor to get things done for the standard
insurance companies would have been a hassle bordering on unmanageable.

I did find one that would handle it on short notice without an
additional survey (and at a reasonable price!) though the cruising
limits are tiny.  I really don't blame them for that even though the
limits are almost comical because I pretty much asked them for liability
coverage and said that given COVID I didn't plan to really go anywhere
far from my California USA slip for a year anyway so quote me
something... and they did.

An owner's association plan would be interesting.  I'd be interested to
see how something like that can be structured (neutral underwriting and
claim processing).

-Nathan

Maramu #29

On 08.03.2021 13:26, Teun BAAS wrote:
> Miles, Brent et alia,
>
> Not only the fact that the carriers refuse to renew is bothersome but,
> in my experience, you get this notice ONLY 3, maybe 4 weeks ahead of
> expiration; now adding the additional " beat the dead line" pressure
<SNIP>
>
> Best Regards Teun
>
> SV AMELIT  A54  #128
>
> In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
>







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Aras Grinius


Re: Perkins Prima M50 Transmission ratio

Aras Grinius
 

Thanks Michael.  
Aras 
Sharki #163 1988

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 4:35 PM michael winand via groups.io <mfw642000=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
I went with the 2.45 tmc with a beta 60. Using the auto prop.
I would ask beta what they suggest. 
Michael  Nebo sm251 


On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 4:58 am, Aras Grinius
Would anyone know the transmission ration for a Perkins Prima M50 engine with a Hurth transmission gear ratio?  My prop measure 19".
I'm replacing my engine with a Beta Marine 50 and TCM 60 Tranny (2:1) gear ratio.  To the best of knowledge this should be fine....unless someone has other info.

So with a new engine painted red, I should be faster!  Alot faster than I am now.....

Aras Grinius
Sharki #163 1988



--
Aras Grinius


Re: Rudder Post Bonding

eric freedman
 

On Kimberlite it is in the stern locker starboard side at he back of my shelf.

Fair Winds,

Erics sm376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adam Body
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 4:34 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rudder Post Bonding

 

That makes sense! Thank you Bill. Do you know the place where the wiring for  SSB ground plate (on the skeg) emerges into the hull, and the color of that wire?
--
Adam Body "Flora"   SM128 Annee 1994


Re: Self Insurance

Nat Bossett
 

Pantanaeus gave me reasonable notice that they were pulling out of the USA market (and have been otherwise pleasant to work with, I'd contact Lisa in their NY office again), but this was in the height of COVID here so working with a yard and surveyor to get things done for the standard insurance companies would have been a hassle bordering on unmanageable.

I did find one that would handle it on short notice without an additional survey (and at a reasonable price!) though the cruising limits are tiny. I really don't blame them for that even though the limits are almost comical because I pretty much asked them for liability coverage and said that given COVID I didn't plan to really go anywhere far from my California USA slip for a year anyway so quote me something... and they did.

An owner's association plan would be interesting. I'd be interested to see how something like that can be structured (neutral underwriting and claim processing).

-Nathan

Maramu #29

On 08.03.2021 13:26, Teun BAAS wrote:
Miles, Brent et alia,
Not only the fact that the carriers refuse to renew is bothersome but,
in my experience, you get this notice ONLY 3, maybe 4 weeks ahead of
expiration; now adding the additional " beat the dead line" pressure
<SNIP>
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA


Re: Perkins Prima M50 Transmission ratio

michael winand
 

I went with the 2.45 tmc with a beta 60. Using the auto prop.
I would ask beta what they suggest. 
Michael  Nebo sm251 


On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 4:58 am, Aras Grinius
<aras.grinius@...> wrote:
Would anyone know the transmission ration for a Perkins Prima M50 engine with a Hurth transmission gear ratio?  My prop measure 19".
I'm replacing my engine with a Beta Marine 50 and TCM 60 Tranny (2:1) gear ratio.  To the best of knowledge this should be fine....unless someone has other info.

So with a new engine painted red, I should be faster!  Alot faster than I am now.....

Aras Grinius
Sharki #163 1988


Re: Rudder Post Bonding

Adam Body
 

That makes sense! Thank you Bill. Do you know the place where the wiring for  SSB ground plate (on the skeg) emerges into the hull, and the color of that wire?
--
Adam Body "Flora"   SM128 Annee 1994


Re: Self Insurance

Teun BAAS
 

Miles, Brent et alia,

 

Not only the fact that the carriers refuse to renew is bothersome but, in my experience, you get this notice ONLY 3, maybe 4 weeks ahead of expiration; now adding the additional “ beat the dead line” pressure in the search & research for a new insurance provider. Originally my agent offered a cover which was almost 3 times what I paid the previous year to which I replied “not a snowball’s chance in hell” am I going to pay that. However, searching for almost 2 weeks to no avail I was mentally getting ready to pay this amount when he returned with my current policy which, although USD2K more expensive (of which about USD1,100 Dutch Insurance taxes simply because the boat was registered in THE NETHERLANDS), then my previous insurance I accepted.

 

Talking last year to several parties involved (owners, agents as well as front companies, re-insurers in LONDON etc.) I have come to the conclusion that obtaining cover is going to be far more challenging than “can I get a better price”.

 

Therefore – being able to get some control of the process by developing an AMEL Group insurance would be extremely helpful. In order to help the small research team pls IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, please help by filling out the survey at: https://kivfinance.typeform.com/to/weCULvfW 


 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 8, 2021 14:18:36

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Miles via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 06:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance

 

Hi Brent,

 

I have just received notice that my insurance will not be renewed so I am now interested.

 

Regards,

 

Miles s/y Ladybug,  sm216


Perkins Prima M50 Transmission ratio

Aras Grinius
 

Would anyone know the transmission ration for a Perkins Prima M50 engine with a Hurth transmission gear ratio?  My prop measure 19".
I'm replacing my engine with a Beta Marine 50 and TCM 60 Tranny (2:1) gear ratio.  To the best of knowledge this should be fine....unless someone has other info.

So with a new engine painted red, I should be faster!  Alot faster than I am now.....

Aras Grinius
Sharki #163 1988


Re: Damaged Chock

Steve Leeds
 

Aras,
I believe the chock is a Goiot but I don't find it in their current catalog.  Maybe AMEL has one in stock.  clean up the damaged deck, tape under the deck and wet out with West System epoxy and then fill with West System epoxy thickened with high density (404) filler.  Don't over fill the hole as this stuff is super strong and does not sand easily.  Get a gelcoat specialist to match and clean up the area you can see.  If you can find the replacement chock, bolt one side and drill down through the new one.  There should be a backing plate underneath.  

I you were using the same type of low stretch line that you show in the photo of the good chock, that helps explain what happened.  You should be using high stretch nylon line for dock lines to absorb the movement of the boat and act as a shock absorber.

I hope that helps,

regards,
Steve Leeds
Sharki #121 1985


On Monday, March 8, 2021, 07:33:23 AM EST, Aras Grinius <aras.grinius@...> wrote:


So for the last several days we had some quite strong Northeasters blowing [gusting up to 30 knots].  These unrelenting winds have taken a toll on my 30 year old chock.  I need to replace them. I sent Maude a note asking for new new ones.  The questions is how to best repair the fiberglass damage and make it strong as the original or better.  More over, access to the corner is very difficult on my Sharki.

Aras Grinius
Sharki #163 1988


Damaged Chock

Aras Grinius
 

So for the last several days we had some quite strong Northeasters blowing [gusting up to 30 knots].  These unrelenting winds have taken a toll on my 30 year old chock.  I need to replace them. I sent Maude a note asking for new new ones.  The questions is how to best repair the fiberglass damage and make it strong as the original or better.  More over, access to the corner is very difficult on my Sharki.

Aras Grinius
Sharki #163 1988


Re: Rudder Post Bonding

 

Adam,

Your SM was most likely delivered to the first owner without an anode on the propeller. Read the attached two pages from my Amel Book.
Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 8:46 AM Adam Body <adamgcbody@...> wrote:
Thanks Bill. The cone zinc anode on the prop is eroding nicely. But the anode on the rudder shows almost no corrosion..I wonder if this is a symptom of a loss of continuity somewhere?
--
Adam Body "Flora"   SM128 Annee 1994

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