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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

Courtney Gorman
 

Mark thank you so much
Happy Thanksgiving
Courtney



-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Nov 22, 2017 2:12 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

 
Courtney,
 
Caribbean Islands
For paper guides, most cruisers use the series by Chris Doyle. They are adequate. For more current information join FB Groups, Active Captain, and Noonsite. http://www.doyleguides.com/
 
Bahamas
We used Explorer Guides. They are excellent! The charts in these books are very accurate. https://www.explorercharts.com/
 
For the Abacos Island of the Bahamas, Steve Dodge’s guide is the best: https://www.amazon.com/Cruising-Guide-Abaco-Bahamas-2017/dp/0932265979
 
 
All of these are available on Amazon
 
 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising – St Lucia
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts
 
 
Hi all I am looking for recommendations on Caribbean Cruising guides and Charts, would appreciate any and All advice
Thanks
Courtney
54 Trippin'
Brunswick

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

Mark Erdos
 

Courtney,

 

Caribbean Islands

For paper guides, most cruisers use the series by Chris Doyle. They are adequate. For more current information join FB Groups, Active Captain, and Noonsite. http://www.doyleguides.com/

 

Bahamas

We used Explorer Guides. They are excellent! The charts in these books are very accurate. https://www.explorercharts.com/

 

For the Abacos Island of the Bahamas, Steve Dodge’s guide is the best: https://www.amazon.com/Cruising-Guide-Abaco-Bahamas-2017/dp/0932265979

 

 

All of these are available on Amazon

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

 

 

Hi all I am looking for recommendations on Caribbean Cruising guides and Charts, would appreciate any and All advice

Thanks

Courtney

54 Trippin'

Brunswick

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Does my ONAN need a new 12V charger?

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi Bill,
thanks for your information.
I looked at IWW in St. Georges and catalogue and couldn't see the 1000 CCA starter battery there. Not sure that I will get it here in Grenada. The other reason I bought this battery was that before the boat had the same one built in. The former owner replaced it also in the Caribbean...
The next problem with batteries here in Grenada and other parts of the Caribbean is that the height of the battery compartment wouldn' allwo to install the (higher) american dimensions. The former owner changed the starter battery space, so I can at least have a higher battery there. But when I was looking for housing batteries in the U.S. earlier this year I found nothing. So I bought new housing batteries in St. Martin (Duracel AGM 12V 85A). They worked fine so far.
Yesterday I let the Volvo run for an hour and this morning I read 13,2V at the starter battery. Likelyhood increases that I have a problem with the 12V alternator on the ONAN.
A friend of mine will pass by with a battery load tester device tomorrow. Will know more by then..
Best regards, Alex
NO STRESS, AMEL54#15



On Monday, November 20, 2017, 5:49:52 PM GMT-4, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Alex, 

That 
​battery
 is undersized. Why did you buy a Grp27? Your 54 came with a Grp31
​.
 The Grp27 battery ​you bought is 840CCA. Deka makes a Grp 31 1000CCA battery.

Did you replace your other batteries?
Do you have the 4 cylinder Onan, or 3?

If you are reading battery voltage in the cockpit, you must be reading it on a Volvo output panel, which means that you have the entire suite of Volvo electronics, 2 computers and various sensors powered-up as well as the 12VDC exhaust fans running. I am guessing 6-10 amps at 12VDC draw on your starting battery. This is NOT a way to test resting voltage, nor is it the thing to do before starting the generator.

In my opinion, you undersized the starting battery. This is especially significant when we are talking about the generator. The length of 12VDC wire from the starting battery to the starter is almost 7 meters from battery to starting motor. If everything is perfect, the wire that Amel uses for this is adequate, but, with an undersized battery, I suspect NOT.

Continue testing the "resting voltage," but at the battery. Continue to look for resting voltage of less than 12.8 volts, then see if you can determine why. Turning ON your Volvo systems and energizing the fans will drop the voltage and drain the battery. You did not say whether you "prime" the Onan when starting. This is pressing and holding down before starting. This should not be necessary for you unless the Onan has not started in a while. If you do this before starting, you will drain the battery.

Hopefully, you will learn why the resting voltage got as low as 12.4 volts (basically discharged), and hopefully your battery is OK. However, I think you need to plan on replacing that Group 27 starting battery with the correct size. BTW, if after running the Onan only for 1-2 hours the resting voltage on the starting battery after turning OFF the Onan should be 12.8-12.9 VDC at the battery...if it is not, the little alternator on the Onan needs attention.

I have forgotten the output of that little alternator, but see to remember something like only 10 amps.

Good luck.

​Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

So these are the answers to Bill's questions:
1. I  read it from the display in the cockpit, which in the past showed the same numbers when I did it at the battery.
2. I went to IWW in St. Georges and the employee tested a battery in the shelf (they store them loaded), but I was stupid enought not to interfere when he took another battery from that same shelf when we went to the cashier.



4. This morning I saw 12,8V before starting and the genset started fine. But yesterday I had the main engine running for ca. 10 min after I discovered the starting problem.
5. I own no load tester, but I will get one from a friend and uncircle the problem....

Thanks for your advice,
Alex / NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15


On Sunday, November 19, 2017, 1:23:39 PM GMT-4, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:


 

It certainly looks like the alternator on the Onan is not charging the battery.


Lots of possible reasons... 

As with anything electrical, start with ALL the connections.  They are not always the most likely cause, but they are cheap and easy to fix, so it makes sense to test them first.  Since the problem started after a service on the generator, it is quite possible you bumped a wire and broke a connection somewhere.  Many times I have been working in the engine room and managed to bump the main power switch on the genset...  "Why won't this darn things start???"

Be sure to NEVER disconnect the alternator from the battery when it is running.  That will kill the diodes in very short order.

If it turns out the alternator is the source of the problem, it is almost certainly able to be rebuilt at a fr action of the cost of a new one.  That service is available all over.

Bill Kinney
sm160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com, wrote :

When the generator runs, I see 13,6V on the starter battery. When I turn the ignition key of the engine in the cockpit the current goes down to 13,2V (maybe because of the ventilator in engine room / generator is still running). When I start the main engine the current goes to 14,4V.

After servicing the ONAN and replacing the starter battery a short while ago, everything worked find for a while, but this morning the ONAN only started AFTER I started the main engine. The starter battery showed 12, 4 V initially. It showed 13,2 after I run the genset for 2h and then 12,8 anoher 2h later. All observations come from the little display in the cockpit.

So what is the conclusion of you fellow Amelians from this observations?

Thanks, Alex
SY NO STRESS in Grenada
AMEL54 #15





--
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin tigres

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Antonio,

No the cable is fine. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 22, 2017 11:21, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill,
I'll check the size, but I am agree with you...is the same. Do you think I could have problem with the cable size If I increase the watt from 1200 to 1500 ? 
Br
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On land in Rome 

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 22 nov 2017, alle ore 12:27, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

 

Antonio,

It is 1200. The 1500 has only been available for less than 10 years...maybe 6-7. I believe they are the exact same size, but double check that.


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 22, 2017 05:15, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi owners,
I want to change my windlasses on my Santorin that's 20 years old. Does someone remember If is 1500 or 1200 watts? I remember 1200.
Thanks
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On Land in Rome

Inviato da iPhone



Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi all I am looking for recommendations on Caribbean Cruising guides and Charts, would appreciate any and All advice
Thanks
Courtney
54 Trippin'
Brunswick




Re: Genoa Sheet Length

Paul Osterberg
 

We have made a very tiny loop of the core at the ens of the genua sheet, a similar lopp at the end of an other rope, so when sailing with poolen out Genua We extens the sheet by attaching a linje with a soft chakle to the sheet, several advantages No need for a New sheet, and less rope in the cockpit when sailing without poling out the Genua.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin tigres

antonio scipioni
 

Thank you Bill,
I'll check the size, but I am agree with you...is the same. Do you think I could have problem with the cable size If I increase the watt from 1200 to 1500 ? 
Br
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On land in Rome 

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 22 nov 2017, alle ore 12:27, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Antonio,

It is 1200. The 1500 has only been available for less than 10 years...maybe 6-7. I believe they are the exact same size, but double check that.


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 22, 2017 05:15, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi owners,
I want to change my windlasses on my Santorin that's 20 years old. Does someone remember If is 1500 or 1200 watts? I remember 1200.
Thanks
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On Land in Rome

Inviato da iPhone



Saltwater Manifold

Duane Siegfri
 

I had (what I would consider) a lot of corosion where the copper manifold met the bronze valve, and some where the nipples were welded to the copper manifold.  Other than those spots, it's pretty clean.  


I'm considering cleaning it up with a wire brush and repainting it with a new valve.  The old valve works easily, but it has surface corrosion over maybe 30% of the surface area.


It wasn't connected to the boat bonding system, which probably explains the corrosion.


The copper manifold is 12 years old, has anyone had good experience in extending the life of the manifold?   I've seen where people have routinely replaced it, but it seems solid and even relatively clean inside.


Wouldn't the manifold and the valve be connected to the bonding system?


Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Pat,

In Nassau, my insurance (Helvetia) agreed I was at zero fault, but since the opposite insurance (Pantaenius) only accepted 50% responsibility, Helvetia said it is not worth the expense to hire a lawyer… (of course, not their money).
We argued for 8 months until I gave up and accepted 50% responsibility.

Repair work had not started that my insurance went up 15%… (because I have a claim now).

Also every time I got a quote, Helvetia said it was too expensive, that I had to look for a new one, etc. that took 7 months (2 months in Nassau) and 5 months in Florida.
It took them 3 months to find someone who charged almost the same amount, but had to go up the river, etc. I end up paying the guy myself.

Then 3.5 years later, I was paid $7000 am still being own $3000.

I have heard good reviews for Pantaenius and was considering to change.
I caution everyone who subscribe their insurance through De Lassee or using Helvetia to rethink their policy.
Rafael is also insured with Helvetia, I urge him to hire a lawyer, because they started doing the same thing with him.

Sincerely, Alexandre.



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 11/22/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 7:01 AM


 









Alex, I
had forgotten it was your boat that was hit in Nassau , I
remember how long that took to to resolve , if it was
resolved. You have had more than your share of damage and
hassles with insurance/repairs . I have Pantaenius and
without a question , they replaced every piece of
electronics on my boat ($58,000) total , all new and better
equipment , with no cost to me. So I can't bring
pressure , but if you are not treated fairly , I would urge
owners insured with your company  to cancel their policies
and sight your treatment for their cancellation . 
Stay Strong,

Pat

SM Shenanigans






-----Original
Message-----

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

To: amelyachtowners
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wed, Nov 22, 2017 6:48 am

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover








 













Thanks Pat.





I hope the cover will be ok, may be because it was in a
compartment where water was not exposed to the sun (so no
growth). Otherwise it is sad to see the growth slowly
taking over…





Based on my experience 3.5 years ago in Nassau (a boat lost
control and damaged my bow pulpit) (and my insurance agreed
I was at zero fault) I knew it would be a fight.


They are also doing the exact same thing with Rafael, I will
write all about it.





Anyway, have a great day.





Sincerely, Alexandre





--------------------------------------------


On Tue, 11/21/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:





Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com


Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 4:01 PM








 





























Alex,


Keep me posted on the cover , being in water should not
have


hurt it much. Sorry your insurance co. is making things


worse for you , as though lack of maintenance would have


been a contributing factor in face of 200 mile winds. 


Good Luck,





Pat














-----Original


Message-----





From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com


[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>





To: amelyachtowners


<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>





Sent: Tue, Nov 21, 2017 4:21 pm





Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover


























 









































Hello Pat,

















Been so busy I haven’t read many of the forum message
for


the last 9 days.








But just read this one out of the blue.

















I don’t think I removed it from the vessel.








I think know where it is (in the life raft storage).








Once the vessel is raised (2 weeks?) I will remove it
and


see if it is ok.

















But I did save the cockpit extension.

















General information, as it might take me another week to


have time to read the forum message. So if meanwhile you


need to contact me, please email me directly to uster@rocketmail.com

















I just spent 55 hours searching and organizing all the


invoices I could found on the maintenance I did for the
last


5 years.








My lawyers are pretty happy with the work (I don’t
think


the insurance will be).








I still have a lot to do this week.








Then will be back making the inventory.

















When things calm down, I will give a full detail report
on


the forum.








Many of you will be VERY surprised and people insured


through De Lassee should search for other insurances.

















Sincerely, Alexandre

















--------------------------------------------








On Tue, 11/21/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com


[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>


wrote:

















Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover








To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com








Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 2:53 PM


























 

























































































Alex, Do








you have the vinyl helm cover for sale. My wife threw


ours








away a couple years ago, can't tell you why ,


neither








can she. I was hoping to find one to borrow and use as
a








template. I hope things are getting much better for you








,you've been thru Hell .








Thanks, 

















Pat

















SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa Sheet Length

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

Bill- Thanks for your response. Yes, in searching for a comfortable ride west from the island chain to Bonaire (our hurricane season spot) I've been frustrated that jibing becomes a bigger production when I can't just have both poles set. Also, we are planning on heading west next year and we have neither the balooner nor the balooner sheet at this point.......working on acquiring both. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa Sheet Length

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thomas,

I am not sure why you want this? Are you planning to Jibe with both poles rigged?????

There is a ballooner sheet to use with the ballooner bent to the foil...are you missing this sheet?

I will be on a Super Maramu in a week and can make measurements for you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Genoa Sheet Length

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

Hi again- I own SM2K #422 L'ORIENT; When I purchased my boat, I replaced the original genoa sheet with one measured exactly to the old one........only later did I discover that the when the genoa is poled out the lazy line isn't long enough to pass through the opposite pole and to the winch. I'm  not currently on my boat. Does anyone know the length the genoa sheet would need to be to pass through both poles ?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Pat & Alexandre,

I have been exposed to insurance companies internal workings in the past.  I will play the devil’s advocate here so don’t shot the messenger.

- Their first reaction is to refuse payment due to… name some excuse.

- Then they negotiate for a lesser value than claimed… and normally, they will succeed as the insured normally cannot afford the mounting lawyers bills.

One important point to remember in Alexandre’s case, is that he spent 3 days removing the spares from his boat and moved to a “bunker like” hotel.  They will latch on this to force the responsibility to Alexandre… (why did you not sail your boat away?? Will be the first question and regardless of his answer, the next question will be… “why did you remove the spares from your boat and move to “bunker”?

I hope owners who suffered damages due to the hurricanes of this past season receive fair treatment from their insurer;… but don’t expect miracles!

Best of luck to you Alexandre,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Panama.


On 22 Nov 2017, at 08:01, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Alex, I had forgotten it was your boat that was hit in Nassau , I remember how long that took to to resolve , if it was resolved. You have had more than your share of damage and hassles with insurance/repairs . I have Pantaenius and without a question , they replaced every piece of electronics on my boat ($58,000) total , all new and better equipment , with no cost to me. So I can't bring pressure , but if you are not treated fairly , I would urge owners insured with your company  to cancel their policies and sight your treatment for their cancellation . 

Stay Strong,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Wed, Nov 22, 2017 6:48 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover

 
Thanks Pat.  

I hope the cover will be ok, may be because it was in a compartment where water was not exposed to the sun (so no growth). Otherwise it is sad to see the growth slowly taking over…  

Based on my experience 3.5 years ago in Nassau (a boat lost control and damaged my bow pulpit) (and my insurance agreed I was at zero fault) I knew it would be a fight.  
They are also doing the exact same thing with Rafael, I will write all about it. 

Anyway, have a great day. 

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 11/21/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 4:01 PM


 









Alex,
Keep me posted on the cover , being in water should not have
hurt it much. Sorry your insurance co. is making things
worse for you , as though lack of maintenance would have
been a contributing factor in face of 200 mile winds. 
Good Luck,

Pat




-----Original
Message-----

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>

To: amelyachtowners
<amelyachtowners@...>

Sent: Tue, Nov 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover








 













Hello Pat, 





Been so busy I haven’t read many of the forum message for
the last 9 days. 


But just read this one out of the blue.  





I don’t think I removed it from the vessel.  


I think know where it is (in the life raft storage).  


Once the vessel is raised (2 weeks?) I will remove it and
see if it is ok.  





But I did save the cockpit extension.  





General information, as it might take me another week to
have time to read the forum message. So if meanwhile you
need to contact me, please email me directly to uster@...





I just spent 55 hours searching and organizing all the
invoices I could found on the maintenance I did for the last
5 years.  


My lawyers are pretty happy with the work (I don’t think
the insurance will be).  


I still have a lot to do this week.  


Then will be back making the inventory.  





When things calm down, I will give a full detail report on
the forum.  


Many of you will be VERY surprised and people insured
through De Lassee should search for other insurances.  





Sincerely, Alexandre





--------------------------------------------


On Tue, 11/21/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:





Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover


To: amelyachtowners@...


Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 2:53 PM








 





























Alex, Do


you have the vinyl helm cover for sale. My wife threw
ours


away a couple years ago, can't tell you why ,
neither


can she. I was hoping to find one to borrow and use as a


template. I hope things are getting much better for you


,you've been thru Hell .


Thanks, 





Pat





SM Shenanigans














Re: Anchor chain channel liner

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

Wow- great idea; hadn't thought about stainless. Thanks.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Alarm Sound

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Have a safe flight. Stay positive. Worry is a killer. Keep us posted. 

Chuck 


On Nov 21, 2017, at 3:27 PM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Not much of a clear response from the marina. Getting on a flight to Greece tonight.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover

Patrick McAneny
 

Alex, I had forgotten it was your boat that was hit in Nassau , I remember how long that took to to resolve , if it was resolved. You have had more than your share of damage and hassles with insurance/repairs . I have Pantaenius and without a question , they replaced every piece of electronics on my boat ($58,000) total , all new and better equipment , with no cost to me. So I can't bring pressure , but if you are not treated fairly , I would urge owners insured with your company  to cancel their policies and sight your treatment for their cancellation . 
Stay Strong,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Nov 22, 2017 6:48 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover

 
Thanks Pat.

I hope the cover will be ok, may be because it was in a compartment where water was not exposed to the sun (so no growth). Otherwise it is sad to see the growth slowly taking over…

Based on my experience 3.5 years ago in Nassau (a boat lost control and damaged my bow pulpit) (and my insurance agreed I was at zero fault) I knew it would be a fight.
They are also doing the exact same thing with Rafael, I will write all about it.

Anyway, have a great day.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 11/21/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 4:01 PM


 









Alex,
Keep me posted on the cover , being in water should not have
hurt it much. Sorry your insurance co. is making things
worse for you , as though lack of maintenance would have
been a contributing factor in face of 200 mile winds. 
Good Luck,

Pat




-----Original
Message-----

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>

To: amelyachtowners
<amelyachtowners@...>

Sent: Tue, Nov 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover








 













Hello Pat,





Been so busy I haven’t read many of the forum message for
the last 9 days.


But just read this one out of the blue.





I don’t think I removed it from the vessel.


I think know where it is (in the life raft storage).


Once the vessel is raised (2 weeks?) I will remove it and
see if it is ok.





But I did save the cockpit extension.





General information, as it might take me another week to
have time to read the forum message. So if meanwhile you
need to contact me, please email me directly to uster@...





I just spent 55 hours searching and organizing all the
invoices I could found on the maintenance I did for the last
5 years.


My lawyers are pretty happy with the work (I don’t think
the insurance will be).


I still have a lot to do this week.


Then will be back making the inventory.





When things calm down, I will give a full detail report on
the forum.


Many of you will be VERY surprised and people insured
through De Lassee should search for other insurances.





Sincerely, Alexandre





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On Tue, 11/21/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:





Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover


To: amelyachtowners@...


Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 2:53 PM








 





























Alex, Do


you have the vinyl helm cover for sale. My wife threw
ours


away a couple years ago, can't tell you why ,
neither


can she. I was hoping to find one to borrow and use as a


template. I hope things are getting much better for you


,you've been thru Hell .


Thanks, 





Pat





SM Shenanigans












Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks Pat.

I hope the cover will be ok, may be because it was in a compartment where water was not exposed to the sun (so no growth). Otherwise it is sad to see the growth slowly taking over…

Based on my experience 3.5 years ago in Nassau (a boat lost control and damaged my bow pulpit) (and my insurance agreed I was at zero fault) I knew it would be a fight.
They are also doing the exact same thing with Rafael, I will write all about it.

Anyway, have a great day.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Tue, 11/21/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 4:01 PM


 









Alex,
Keep me posted on the cover , being in water should not have
hurt it much. Sorry your insurance co. is making things
worse for you , as though lack of maintenance would have
been a contributing factor in face of 200 mile winds. 
Good Luck,

Pat




-----Original
Message-----

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

To: amelyachtowners
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tue, Nov 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover








 













Hello Pat,





Been so busy I haven’t read many of the forum message for
the last 9 days.


But just read this one out of the blue.





I don’t think I removed it from the vessel.


I think know where it is (in the life raft storage).


Once the vessel is raised (2 weeks?) I will remove it and
see if it is ok.





But I did save the cockpit extension.





General information, as it might take me another week to
have time to read the forum message. So if meanwhile you
need to contact me, please email me directly to uster@rocketmail.com





I just spent 55 hours searching and organizing all the
invoices I could found on the maintenance I did for the last
5 years.


My lawyers are pretty happy with the work (I don’t think
the insurance will be).


I still have a lot to do this week.


Then will be back making the inventory.





When things calm down, I will give a full detail report on
the forum.


Many of you will be VERY surprised and people insured
through De Lassee should search for other insurances.





Sincerely, Alexandre





--------------------------------------------


On Tue, 11/21/17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:





Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com


Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 2:53 PM








 





























Alex, Do


you have the vinyl helm cover for sale. My wife threw
ours


away a couple years ago, can't tell you why ,
neither


can she. I was hoping to find one to borrow and use as a


template. I hope things are getting much better for you


,you've been thru Hell .


Thanks, 





Pat





SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin tigres

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Antonio,

It is 1200. The 1500 has only been available for less than 10 years...maybe 6-7. I believe they are the exact same size, but double check that.


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 22, 2017 05:15, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi owners,
I want to change my windlasses on my Santorin that's 20 years old. Does someone remember If is 1500 or 1200 watts? I remember 1200.
Thanks
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On Land in Rome

Inviato da iPhone



Santorin tigres

antonio scipioni
 

Hi owners,
I want to change my windlasses on my Santorin that's 20 years old. Does someone remember If is 1500 or 1200 watts? I remember 1200.
Thanks
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On Land in Rome

Inviato da iPhone


Re: Perkins M 4.154 repairs

j.lochhead@...
 

Hi Warren and Zetta,  Did you get it rebuit in Thailand?  Interested in recommendation on Good Mechanic.