Date   
Leaking Fuel Tank

hodginsbob@...
 

Yesterday I left the boat for several hours for a Thanksgiving day with family. On returning to the boat I found my nearly full tank of diesel all in the engine room/bilge. Fortunately, the original bilge pump broke a few days ago, Maud has parts on order, and I have not yet installed a back up, so an environmental disaster was averted. I had manually pumped out the bilge/grey water just before leaving the boat, so it was almost all clean diesel. I pumped it through the Racor filters back into the tank. When the level was down so I could see what was going on, there was a steady stream of diesel entering the engine room at the floor level in the far forward starboard corner. That is where all the large battery cables run starboard towards the battery box. This morning all the diesel is back in the engine room. Fortunately there is no diesel odor in the main cabin, attesting to the integrity of the watertight compartments in the Amel.
Some assumptions I am making that I would appreciate confirming, or correcting.
I assume the tank has only the openings on the top, and one outlet at the bottom that goes to the Racor filters. If this is true, I must have a leak in the tank, or possibly a leak in the outlet pipe at the bottom, that is presenting itself just forward.
If I have a leak in the tank it must come out to be repaired. Is it possible to remove the tank in one piece out  through the engine room hatch? Has anyone ever done that that can offer advise such as what to remove, how the tank is secured in the boat, etc?
Any advise is very much appreciated,
Bob
Gallivant
Amel 54 #31
currently in St. Thomas, USVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightning--in general

eric freedman
 

Alexandre,

The company was AIG.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightning--in general

 

 

Great information Eric,

Who is your insurance?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 11/23/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightning--in general
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2016, 4:42 PM


 









I would like to relate
what happened to Kimberlite a few years at a dock in New
York.I was away from
Kimberlite and my neighbor called me and said he saw
Kimberlite struck by lightning.The lightning hit my
AIS VHF antenna and melted it like a welding rod to about 8
inches.The following were
destroyed,Ais Antenna ,
All electronic wiring
to instruments,2 chart
plottersRadar
antennaAll sailing instruments
including 3 repeaters.13
batteriesGenerator circuit
board,Engine starter
motorBow thruster motor,
jack motor,  and bow thruster-it blew off the
propeller.furling motors and
outhaul motor.SSB radio and power
supplySat
PhoneAutopilot computer, and
one drive.Wind masthead
unitStereo
system  Below was my original
letter to the insurance company- they paid for everything
les the deductible.***Haul boat to examine hull and
dynaplate for underwater damage $1382-  SATPHONE-nera mini-m $4888 plus
your  install costLAPTOP-gateway  55 gb drive
Pentium 4 1.6 ghz 512 ram + 12 volt charger 15 inch  $975-
ICOM 802Ssb TUNERSsb 12-24 volt POWER
SUPPLYFuruno weather fax with navtex
boardSee-me radar transponder unit cost
$1015-includes import duty install plus antenna 
$350-
 AUDIOVOX 12 volt 15 INCH LCD FLAT
PANELTELEVISION SET AND AMPLIFIERBose acoustamas stereo system with
CD changer4- 24 to 12 volt
convertersNasa  AIS “radar” unit
including import duty and installation--$650.00  C-map Chart CHIPSAfrica coast Azores and
canariesWest France and SpainBermudaShinecock canal to Cape
MayLong island and Block Island
soundCape Cod to Block
IslandCaribbean to
Venezuela  POWER POD OCEANEQUIPMENT model pp5051E120 RADAR CHART
PLOTTERE80 RADAR CHART
PLOTTER24 volt t0 110 volt 60 cycle 1500
watt stat power inverterLINEAR DRIVE 24 volt long linear
for 60,000 lb boat is there a type 3 linear currently is a
type 2AUTOPILOT COMPUTER sg3 core
packSAILING INSTRUMENTS AND INSTALL
TRANSDUCERS3 st60 multi
REPEATERSSt60 WINDSt60 SPEEDSt60 DEPTHSt6001+ st7001+2 AUTOPILOT CONTROL
HEADSREPAIR CHAIN COUNTERRaymarine dual stationVHF RADIO 2
HANDSETS ray 230e for us and EuropeanRAYNAV 300 GPS AND
antennaRebuild yanmar STARTER
MOTORREBUILD ALTERNATOR 175 amp 24 volt
dual beltRADAR ANTENNA 4kw
domeVetus ELECTRONIC
BAROMETERVHF ANTENNA.Onan Generator circuit board AND
RELAY + LABOR 975.00  MAIN SAIL FURLING MOTOR -MUST GET
PRICE FROM FRANCEREBUILD BOW THRUSTER MOTOR AND
REPLACE CONTROL CIRCUITRY-MUST GET PRICE FROM
FRANCEUnable to test due to inoperative
220 volt 50 cycle generatorAir conditionersBattery bank220 volt 100 amp and 30 amp 50
cycle battery chargerwatermakerDish washerWashing machineMicrowave ovenFreezers  Due to the state of the battery
bankWe were unable to test any of the
onboard pumps.We will be able to test the pumps
when the battery chargers and battery banks are up to a
fully charged status  
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

eric freedman
 

Richard,

I saw no evidence of corrosion , however I did see marks in the s/s from the lip seals. It is also difficult to add the second sleeve without overlapping them.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

 

 

Eric when using to sleeve of SS over the bronze bushing did you see any signs of corrosion at the interface of the two different metals. 


Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 

Capt Richard Piller

Newport RI 

Cell 603 767 5330


On Nov 24, 2016, at 00:47, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill ,

I was thinking of taking down the bearing .5 mm and use a seal 1 mm smaller. I am sure a .5 mm difference in the seal will make no difference.

This would be a one shot deal for each bearing. I think I have 9 used ones.

I think I will give it a try and see what happens.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

 

 

Eric,

 

Turning down 1mm in diameter seems like it would work, if it makes sense for you. 

 

Seals are available in the smaller shaft size (44/65/8 instead of 45/65/8).  I haven’t seen seals in 1/2 mm increments in this size range. Do they exist?

 

With 1mm steps, it seems like one turndown might be all you can get though…  the wall thickness of the seal bearing area on a new wearing out bearing I have is 2.55 mm.  Going down to a 44mm seal size would leave you with ~2.0mm.  Is 1.5mm OK?  How about 1.0? My gut says 1.5 is too thin, but there is not any hard engineering rational behind it.

 

At some point it must get too thin, but I don’t know how decide how where that is… There certainly isn’t a lot of stress on the part, but seals can be fussy about things moving around in ways outside design parameters.

 

My thoughts (and they are worth every penny you paid for them!) is that it would get too complicated for me. I don’t want to stock multiple sizes of seals and wearing out bearings, and make sure I don’t mix them up.  I keep two sets of spare seals and sleeves, and one spare wearing out bearing, and I am thinking I am good to go for the foreseeable future.

 

Bill

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt water manifold leaking

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

All, I had Riza fabricate a saltwater manifold to BeBe's dimensions and ship iit from Turkey to me in the Virgin Islands. My total cost will be less than 300 euros. When it arrives, I will post the total cost.

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently St. John

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill 
I will inspect closely.  If it looks dangerous I will close valve and isolate the manifold

Steve,
I sent an email to Kilkea II.  Looking forward to his reply 

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Nov 22, 2016, at 3:12 AM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Ben,

When we were at Le Marin last spring, we met a fellow with an SM2000 who had a new stainless manifold fabricated by someone there. If I remember correctly, he paid in the 300 euro range for the guy to remove the old part, fabricate the new one, and re-install. 

The boat owners were Dave and Marian Paul off of Kilkea II. Email is kilkea_2 at yahoo dot ca. 

I'd be interested in having a new manifold fabricated as well, and I'm guessing Rascal might be as too. See you guys when you arrive at Le Marin. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Bequia, SVG

On Nov 21, 2016, at 21:54, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Ben,


Be careful…  that leak might be evidence of significant weakening of the part.  It would not make for a good day if you were offshore and a branch of the manifold broke off.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
On the Hard, Fort Lauderdale, FL
“Ships and men rot in port."


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar-Vetus coupling plate

eric freedman
 

Kent

My email is kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar-Vetus coupling plate

 

 

Thanks, Eric.  Too early to tell, but grandkids involved.  They have to come first.

 

Life's a reach...and then you gybe!  Scares the crap out of everybody, stuff breaks, but usually not fatal.

Kent

Kristy

SM243

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Richard,

I'll second the corrosion comment.  No corrosion at all.  I would not expect a problem with high quality bronze and stainless, they normally live quite happily together--if there is zinc around. Think props and shafts.

I have a max-prop with a zinc, so that area is also well protected.

If you were concerned, I assume you could put some tefgel on the bronze before installing the sleeve.

Bill Kinney
SM #160 Harmonie
On the hard Fort Lauderdale, FL

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

I've used the SKF Speedi Sleeves with good result (and no corrosion at all). Last time though had old sleeve rebabbitted at Centrifugal Rebabbitting in Ft Lauderdale. Inexpensive, maintains diameter and has worn well.
Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <richard03801@...> wrote :

Eric when using to sleeve of SS over the bronze bushing did you see any signs of corrosion at the interface of the two different metals. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 
Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI 
Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 24, 2016, at 00:47, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill ,

I was thinking of taking down the bearing .5 mm and use a seal 1 mm smaller. I am sure a .5 mm difference in the seal will make no difference.

This would be a one shot deal for each bearing. I think I have 9 used ones.

I think I will give it a try and see what happens.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

 

 

Eric,

 

Turning down 1mm in diameter seems like it would work, if it makes sense for you. 

 

Seals are available in the smaller shaft size (44/65/8 instead of 45/65/8).  I haven’t seen seals in 1/2 mm increments in this size range. Do they exist?

 

With 1mm steps, it seems like one turndown might be all you can get though…  the wall thickness of the seal bearing area on a new wearing out bearing I have is 2.55 mm.  Going down to a 44mm seal size would leave you with ~2.0mm.  Is 1.5mm OK?  How about 1.0? My gut says 1.5 is too thin, but there is not any hard engineering rational behind it.

 

At some point it must get too thin, but I don’t know how decide how where that is… There certainly isn’t a lot of stress on the part, but seals can be fussy about things moving around in ways outside design parameters.

 

My thoughts (and they are worth every penny you paid for them!) is that it would get too complicated for me. I don’t want to stock multiple sizes of seals and wearing out bearings, and make sure I don’t mix them up.  I keep two sets of spare seals and sleeves, and one spare wearing out bearing, and I am thinking I am good to go for the foreseeable future.

 

Bill

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Eric when using to sleeve of SS over the bronze bushing did you see any signs of corrosion at the interface of the two different metals. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 
Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI 
Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 24, 2016, at 00:47, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill ,

I was thinking of taking down the bearing .5 mm and use a seal 1 mm smaller. I am sure a .5 mm difference in the seal will make no difference.

This would be a one shot deal for each bearing. I think I have 9 used ones.

I think I will give it a try and see what happens.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

 

 

Eric,

 

Turning down 1mm in diameter seems like it would work, if it makes sense for you. 

 

Seals are available in the smaller shaft size (44/65/8 instead of 45/65/8).  I haven’t seen seals in 1/2 mm increments in this size range. Do they exist?

 

With 1mm steps, it seems like one turndown might be all you can get though…  the wall thickness of the seal bearing area on a new wearing out bearing I have is 2.55 mm.  Going down to a 44mm seal size would leave you with ~2.0mm.  Is 1.5mm OK?  How about 1.0? My gut says 1.5 is too thin, but there is not any hard engineering rational behind it.

 

At some point it must get too thin, but I don’t know how decide how where that is… There certainly isn’t a lot of stress on the part, but seals can be fussy about things moving around in ways outside design parameters.

 

My thoughts (and they are worth every penny you paid for them!) is that it would get too complicated for me. I don’t want to stock multiple sizes of seals and wearing out bearings, and make sure I don’t mix them up.  I keep two sets of spare seals and sleeves, and one spare wearing out bearing, and I am thinking I am good to go for the foreseeable future.

 

Bill

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightning--in general

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Great information Eric,

Who is your insurance?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 11/23/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightning--in general
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2016, 4:42 PM


 









I would like to relate
what happened to Kimberlite a few years at a dock in New
York.I was away from
Kimberlite and my neighbor called me and said he saw
Kimberlite struck by lightning.The lightning hit my
AIS VHF antenna and melted it like a welding rod to about 8
inches.The following were
destroyed,Ais Antenna ,
All electronic wiring
to instruments,2 chart
plottersRadar
antennaAll sailing instruments
including 3 repeaters.13
batteriesGenerator circuit
board,Engine starter
motorBow thruster motor,
jack motor,  and bow thruster-it blew off the
propeller.furling motors and
outhaul motor.SSB radio and power
supplySat
PhoneAutopilot computer, and
one drive.Wind masthead
unitStereo
system  Below was my original
letter to the insurance company- they paid for everything
les the deductible.***Haul boat to examine hull and
dynaplate for underwater damage $1382-  SATPHONE-nera mini-m $4888 plus
your  install costLAPTOP-gateway  55 gb drive
Pentium 4 1.6 ghz 512 ram + 12 volt charger 15 inch  $975-
ICOM 802Ssb TUNERSsb 12-24 volt POWER
SUPPLYFuruno weather fax with navtex
boardSee-me radar transponder unit cost
$1015-includes import duty install plus antenna 
$350-
 AUDIOVOX 12 volt 15 INCH LCD FLAT
PANELTELEVISION SET AND AMPLIFIERBose acoustamas stereo system with
CD changer4- 24 to 12 volt
convertersNasa  AIS “radar” unit
including import duty and installation--$650.00  C-map Chart CHIPSAfrica coast Azores and
canariesWest France and SpainBermudaShinecock canal to Cape
MayLong island and Block Island
soundCape Cod to Block
IslandCaribbean to
Venezuela  POWER POD OCEANEQUIPMENT model pp5051E120 RADAR CHART
PLOTTERE80 RADAR CHART
PLOTTER24 volt t0 110 volt 60 cycle 1500
watt stat power inverterLINEAR DRIVE 24 volt long linear
for 60,000 lb boat is there a type 3 linear currently is a
type 2AUTOPILOT COMPUTER sg3 core
packSAILING INSTRUMENTS AND INSTALL
TRANSDUCERS3 st60 multi
REPEATERSSt60 WINDSt60 SPEEDSt60 DEPTHSt6001+ st7001+2 AUTOPILOT CONTROL
HEADSREPAIR CHAIN COUNTERRaymarine dual stationVHF RADIO 2
HANDSETS ray 230e for us and EuropeanRAYNAV 300 GPS AND
antennaRebuild yanmar STARTER
MOTORREBUILD ALTERNATOR 175 amp 24 volt
dual beltRADAR ANTENNA 4kw
domeVetus ELECTRONIC
BAROMETERVHF ANTENNA.Onan Generator circuit board AND
RELAY + LABOR 975.00  MAIN SAIL FURLING MOTOR -MUST GET
PRICE FROM FRANCEREBUILD BOW THRUSTER MOTOR AND
REPLACE CONTROL CIRCUITRY-MUST GET PRICE FROM
FRANCEUnable to test due to inoperative
220 volt 50 cycle generatorAir conditionersBattery bank220 volt 100 amp and 30 amp 50
cycle battery chargerwatermakerDish washerWashing machineMicrowave ovenFreezers  Due to the state of the battery
bankWe were unable to test any of the
onboard pumps.We will be able to test the pumps
when the battery chargers and battery banks are up to a
fully charged status

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar-Vetus coupling plate

karkauai
 

Thanks, Eric.  Too early to tell, but grandkids involved.  They have to come first.

Life's a reach...and then you gybe!  Scares the crap out of everybody, stuff breaks, but usually not fatal.

Kent
Kristy
SM243

Re: Looking for a Surveyor in Portugal

niels.hauerslev@...
 

Dear Rafael

I too warmly recommend contacting Olivier Beauté, specialist AMEL surveyor.

BR Niels Hauerslev

SM2K #351

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Eric,

Now it makes sense all round… if I had a stash of 9 worn out wearing out bearings, I’d be in line at the lathe right behind you!   :)

Bill


On Nov 24, 2016, at 00:47, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Bill ,

I was thinking of taking down the bearing .5 mm and use a seal 1 mm smaller. I am sure a .5 mm difference in the seal will make no difference.

This would be a one shot deal for each bearing. I think I have 9 used ones.

I think I will give it a try and see what happens.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

 

  

Eric,

 

Turning down 1mm in diameter seems like it would work, if it makes sense for you. 

 

Seals are available in the smaller shaft size (44/65/8 instead of 45/65/8).  I haven’t seen seals in 1/2 mm increments in this size range. Do they exist?

 

With 1mm steps, it seems like one turndown might be all you can get though…  the wall thickness of the seal bearing area on a new wearing out bearing I have is 2.55 mm.  Going down to a 44mm seal size would leave you with ~2.0mm.  Is 1.5mm OK?  How about 1.0? My gut says 1.5 is too thin, but there is not any hard engineering rational behind it.

 

At some point it must get too thin, but I don’t know how decide how where that is… There certainly isn’t a lot of stress on the part, but seals can be fussy about things moving around in ways outside design parameters.

 

My thoughts (and they are worth every penny you paid for them!) is that it would get too complicated for me. I don’t want to stock multiple sizes of seals and wearing out bearings, and make sure I don’t mix them up.  I keep two sets of spare seals and sleeves, and one spare wearing out bearing, and I am thinking I am good to go for the foreseeable future.

 

Bill

 

 



[Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

eric freedman
 

Bill ,

I was thinking of taking down the bearing .5 mm and use a seal 1 mm smaller. I am sure a .5 mm difference in the seal will make no difference.

This would be a one shot deal for each bearing. I think I have 9 used ones.

I think I will give it a try and see what happens.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

 

 

Eric,

 

Turning down 1mm in diameter seems like it would work, if it makes sense for you. 

 

Seals are available in the smaller shaft size (44/65/8 instead of 45/65/8).  I haven’t seen seals in 1/2 mm increments in this size range. Do they exist?

 

With 1mm steps, it seems like one turndown might be all you can get though…  the wall thickness of the seal bearing area on a new wearing out bearing I have is 2.55 mm.  Going down to a 44mm seal size would leave you with ~2.0mm.  Is 1.5mm OK?  How about 1.0? My gut says 1.5 is too thin, but there is not any hard engineering rational behind it.

 

At some point it must get too thin, but I don’t know how decide how where that is… There certainly isn’t a lot of stress on the part, but seals can be fussy about things moving around in ways outside design parameters.

 

My thoughts (and they are worth every penny you paid for them!) is that it would get too complicated for me. I don’t want to stock multiple sizes of seals and wearing out bearings, and make sure I don’t mix them up.  I keep two sets of spare seals and sleeves, and one spare wearing out bearing, and I am thinking I am good to go for the foreseeable future.

 

Bill

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Eric,

Turning down 1mm in diameter seems like it would work, if it makes sense for you. 

Seals are available in the smaller shaft size (44/65/8 instead of 45/65/8).  I haven’t seen seals in 1/2 mm increments in this size range. Do they exist?

With 1mm steps, it seems like one turndown might be all you can get though…  the wall thickness of the seal bearing area on a new wearing out bearing I have is 2.55 mm.  Going down to a 44mm seal size would leave you with ~2.0mm.  Is 1.5mm OK?  How about 1.0? My gut says 1.5 is too thin, but there is not any hard engineering rational behind it.

At some point it must get too thin, but I don’t know how decide how where that is… There certainly isn’t a lot of stress on the part, but seals can be fussy about things moving around in ways outside design parameters.

My thoughts (and they are worth every penny you paid for them!) is that it would get too complicated for me. I don’t want to stock multiple sizes of seals and wearing out bearings, and make sure I don’t mix them up.  I keep two sets of spare seals and sleeves, and one spare wearing out bearing, and I am thinking I am good to go for the foreseeable future.

Bill


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar-Vetus coupling plate

eric freedman
 

Kent,

I am so sorry to hear that you might not be sailing again.

If you are unable to keep your boat you can always go for a ride with us on a passage.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar-Vetus coupling plate

 

 

Hi Eric,

Sorry, but I'm in NC and the boat is in Panama.  I had to come home earlier than planned to deal with a family crisis.  Not sure when or even if I'll get to continue my sailing adventures.

 

Take your  Vetus coupling to a machine shop and have them make a solid aluminum disc of the same dimensions and with the same holes.  I don't remember what I paid for it, but it wasn't a lot.  Then you'll have it if you ever need to move the Yanmar for any reason.

 

Sorry I can't help you this time.

 

Steady as she goes.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar-Vetus coupling plate

karkauai
 

Hi Eric,
Sorry, but I'm in NC and the boat is in Panama.  I had to come home earlier than planned to deal with a family crisis.  Not sure when or even if I'll get to continue my sailing adventures.

Take your  Vetus coupling to a machine shop and have them make a solid aluminum disc of the same dimensions and with the same holes.  I don't remember what I paid for it, but it wasn't a lot.  Then you'll have it if you ever need to move the Yanmar for any reason.

Sorry I can't help you this time.

Steady as she goes.
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

I tried the spedi-sleeves they also showed wear after a year.

I am still thinking about cutting down the wearing out beraings.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 6:53 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

 

 

Eric,

 

SKF (the bearing and seal company) makes something they call a “spedi-sleeve” that is designed to refurbish scored shafts in just this way.  The wide sealing surface on the Amel wearing out bearing requires two sleeves to cover the full depth.  Other bearing and seal companies make similar things under different names.

 

 

Before you go this route, make sure that the bronze piece you have is true and not out of round. The sleeves are only 0.28mm thick, so no change in seal size is needed.

 

Since these sleeves are made of hard, polished stainless they should last much longer than the bronze before they show significant wear.  I have a wearing out bearing in my hand right now that has been in service for two years with spedi-sleeves on it, and the metal is just polished under where the seals rotate, no detectable amount of scoring. If the sleeves do wear, they can be replaced at a fraction of the cost of a new bronze piece.

 

Bill Kinney

SM #160, Harmonie

On the Hard, Fort Lauderdale, FL

“Ships and men rot in port."

 

 

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wearing out bearing

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Eric,

SKF (the bearing and seal company) makes something they call a “spedi-sleeve” that is designed to refurbish scored shafts in just this way.  The wide sealing surface on the Amel wearing out bearing requires two sleeves to cover the full depth.  Other bearing and seal companies make similar things under different names.


Before you go this route, make sure that the bronze piece you have is true and not out of round. The sleeves are only 0.28mm thick, so no change in seal size is needed.

Since these sleeves are made of hard, polished stainless they should last much longer than the bronze before they show significant wear.  I have a wearing out bearing in my hand right now that has been in service for two years with spedi-sleeves on it, and the metal is just polished under where the seals rotate, no detectable amount of scoring. If the sleeves do wear, they can be replaced at a fraction of the cost of a new bronze piece.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
On the Hard, Fort Lauderdale, FL
“Ships and men rot in port."




Vetus coupling

eric freedman
 

I cannot seem to find the mention of the part number of the Vetus coupling complete for the Yanmar 4jh3 engine.

Also the Vetus part number for the inserts in the coupling.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

Lightning--in general

eric freedman
 

I would like to relate what happened to Kimberlite a few years at a dock in New York.

I was away from Kimberlite and my neighbor called me and said he saw Kimberlite struck by lightning.

The lightning hit my AIS VHF antenna and melted it like a welding rod to about 8 inches.

The following were destroyed,

Ais Antenna ,

All electronic wiring to instruments,

2 chart plotters

Radar antenna

All sailing instruments including 3 repeaters.

13 batteries

Generator circuit board,

Engine starter motor

Bow thruster motor, jack motor,  and bow thruster-it blew off the propeller.

furling motors and outhaul motor.

SSB radio and power supply

Sat Phone

Autopilot computer, and one drive.

Wind masthead unit

Stereo system

 

Below was my original letter to the insurance company- they paid for everything les the deductible.

***Haul boat to examine hull and dynaplate for underwater damage $1382-

 

SATPHONE-nera mini-m $4888 plus your  install cost

LAPTOP-gateway  55 gb drive Pentium 4 1.6 ghz 512 ram + 12 volt charger 15 inch  $975-

ICOM 802

Ssb TUNER

Ssb 12-24 volt POWER SUPPLY

Furuno weather fax with navtex board

See-me radar transponder unit cost $1015-includes import duty install plus antenna  $350-

 

AUDIOVOX 12 volt 15 INCH LCD FLAT PANELTELEVISION SET AND AMPLIFIER

Bose acoustamas stereo system with CD changer

4- 24 to 12 volt converters

Nasa  AIS “radar” unit including import duty and installation--$650.00

 

C-map Chart CHIPS

Africa coast Azores and canaries

West France and Spain

Bermuda

Shinecock canal to Cape May

Long island and Block Island sound

Cape Cod to Block Island

Caribbean to Venezuela

 

POWER POD OCEANEQUIPMENT model pp5051

E120 RADAR CHART PLOTTER

E80 RADAR CHART PLOTTER

24 volt t0 110 volt 60 cycle 1500 watt stat power inverter

LINEAR DRIVE 24 volt long linear for 60,000 lb boat is there a type 3 linear currently is a type 2

AUTOPILOT COMPUTER sg3 core pack

SAILING INSTRUMENTS AND INSTALL TRANSDUCERS

3 st60 multi REPEATERS

St60 WIND

St60 SPEED

St60 DEPTH

St6001+ st7001+2 AUTOPILOT CONTROL HEADS

REPAIR CHAIN COUNTER

Raymarine dual stationVHF RADIO 2 HANDSETS ray 230e for us and European

RAYNAV 300 GPS AND antenna

Rebuild yanmar STARTER MOTOR

REBUILD ALTERNATOR 175 amp 24 volt dual belt

RADAR ANTENNA 4kw dome

Vetus ELECTRONIC BAROMETER

VHF ANTENNA.

Onan Generator circuit board AND RELAY + LABOR 975.00

 

MAIN SAIL FURLING MOTOR -MUST GET PRICE FROM FRANCE

REBUILD BOW THRUSTER MOTOR AND REPLACE CONTROL CIRCUITRY-MUST GET PRICE FROM FRANCE

Unable to test due to inoperative 220 volt 50 cycle generator

Air conditioners

Battery bank

220 volt 100 amp and 30 amp 50 cycle battery charger

watermaker

Dish washer

Washing machine

Microwave oven

Freezers

 

Due to the state of the battery bank

We were unable to test any of the onboard pumps.

We will be able to test the pumps when the battery chargers and battery banks are up to a fully charged status