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110 HP Yanmar raw water pump access

karkauai
 

I know a few SMo have repowered with the Yanmar 4JH4HTE.  The raw water pump is on the aft/starboard side next to the fuel tank. It's almost impossible for me to change the impeller without removing hoses and alternator, and even then it's hours of struggling and cussing before it's done.
I'm writing to ask others if they are having the same problem, and how they deal with it.  I'm considering removing that impeller and putting in a remote raw water pump. Previously mechanics have discouraged me from doing that, but I'm at wits end.

Any advice, thoughts, etc are greatly appreciated.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: Any data on B&G displays

Stefan and Anne Deerberg
 

Hi Elja!

That feels good. I’m not alone with this lovely old traditional clocks.
I like them very much. They made from very good aircraft Aluminium quality.
I’ll try to find a used processor,  but they will probably also be almost  20 years old.
In Martinique there is a really friendly perfectionist. Jacques is the owner from “Diginav” in Le Marin  and he loves to repair the old devices. 
For my opinion it’s one of the most experienced marine electronic workshops I’ve ever seen.

Thank you for your ideas 

Stefan 

SM 373, OYA 
Tobago Cays 
( I suggest the  tobago cays will never be so empty again, like in theses Corona times. Just a handful  lonesome sailors)


Stefan Deerberg 

Geschäftsführer 
Deerberg GmbH 
Unternehmer/ Entrepreneur

Velgen 35
29582 Hanstedt 
Germany

Mobil: +49 172 7757444
stefan.deerberg@...
www.deerberg.de



On 18. Jul 2020, at 09:40, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

He Stefan last week i have the same problem , i maild and fone some houers  with B&g  on the end is the processor takes the data in give it to the digital unit but not to the analog units . The think like bill the processor is after 22 jaers on the end .
I make a post in the facebook groop , i am lucky and one menber sell me his old one compleat sythem
Try it also

Best Elja
SM Balu 222


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Re: Lubrication of the Mechanism That Drives The Main Sail Furling Unit

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Kent,

I followed Danny SIMMS suggestion; I rinse with loads of sweet water when able. 

This has been done automatically in NZ... so much so that a newspaper called the storm “the 500 year freak rain” 

We are dry; it’s N Amel 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007


On 19/07/2020, at 5:16 AM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Well darn, sometimes I think my old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" policy is best. My newly refurbished manual mainsail furler, which I filled with heavy gear oil, is leaking onto the cabin top.

I hate to take it off and redo what I just did with new seals, so I'm asking if anyone has ideas about what to do differently.

It's hard to pinpoint where the oil is leaking on the bottom side of the gearbox. I didn't use any sealant on the outside of the shaft seal, so that's one thing, I could use a speed sleeve on the shaft, but the shaft looked nice and smooth.

I could go with grease instead of oil, but that means more frequent maintenance. Has anyone put a zerk in this gearbox for periodic greasing?

Thanks for sharing your expertise and experience.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Chest freezer on keel cooling not keeping up so much

Billy Newport
 

My 55#56 has a chest freezer which has both keel and air cooling systems. I was on the keel cooled and with the water temp now 27C, it is unable to get the freezer temp under about 25F. The air freezer gets the temps down to 0F comfortably and I'm now using the air freezer.

Is the keel cooler expected to perform in warmer water (I'm thinking in the med and caribbean) and I can't help but think of course has to be the answer otherwise, whats the point so I must be missing a trick here.

Amel 55#56, Coder in Jersey City, NJ


Re: Lubrication of the Mechanism That Drives The Main Sail Furling Unit

karkauai
 

Thanks Bill, I hadn't seen that. Mine doesn't have the "dust cover", but that's not causing the oil leak.

Does anyone know the dimensions of the dust cover? I'm guessing it's a double lip oil seal that is 8-10mm  thick?

Thanks again
Kent

On Jul 18, 2020 3:02 PM, Bill Shaproski <bill.shaproski@...> wrote:
You might want to contact Ken from Aquarius who has three Youtube videos he made of how to rebuild the main sail manual furler.  He used grease instead of oil to lubricate after rebuild.  He also used the seal kit from Amel.  Here's the link:  youtube.com/watch?v=F0HIWBv1Pfc.

I'm no expert but it seems like installing a lube fitting should work.  Its apparently been done a lot on the gearbox for the electric furler.  
Regards
Bill Shaproski 
Pacific Cool

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 10:16 AM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well darn, sometimes I think my old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" policy is best. My newly refurbished manual mainsail furler, which I filled with heavy gear oil, is leaking onto the cabin top.

I hate to take it off and redo what I just did with new seals, so I'm asking if anyone has ideas about what to do differently.

It's hard to pinpoint where the oil is leaking on the bottom side of the gearbox. I didn't use any sealant on the outside of the shaft seal, so that's one thing, I could use a speed sleeve on the shaft, but the shaft looked nice and smooth.

I could go with grease instead of oil, but that means more frequent maintenance. Has anyone put a zerk in this gearbox for periodic greasing?

Thanks for sharing your expertise and experience.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: Lubrication of the Mechanism That Drives The Main Sail Furling Unit

Bill Shaproski
 

You might want to contact Ken from Aquarius who has three Youtube videos he made of how to rebuild the main sail manual furler.  He used grease instead of oil to lubricate after rebuild.  He also used the seal kit from Amel.  Here's the link:  youtube.com/watch?v=F0HIWBv1Pfc.

I'm no expert but it seems like installing a lube fitting should work.  Its apparently been done a lot on the gearbox for the electric furler.  
Regards
Bill Shaproski 
Pacific Cool

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 10:16 AM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well darn, sometimes I think my old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" policy is best. My newly refurbished manual mainsail furler, which I filled with heavy gear oil, is leaking onto the cabin top.

I hate to take it off and redo what I just did with new seals, so I'm asking if anyone has ideas about what to do differently.

It's hard to pinpoint where the oil is leaking on the bottom side of the gearbox. I didn't use any sealant on the outside of the shaft seal, so that's one thing, I could use a speed sleeve on the shaft, but the shaft looked nice and smooth.

I could go with grease instead of oil, but that means more frequent maintenance. Has anyone put a zerk in this gearbox for periodic greasing?

Thanks for sharing your expertise and experience.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: Lubrication of the Mechanism That Drives The Main Sail Furling Unit

karkauai
 

Well darn, sometimes I think my old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" policy is best. My newly refurbished manual mainsail furler, which I filled with heavy gear oil, is leaking onto the cabin top.

I hate to take it off and redo what I just did with new seals, so I'm asking if anyone has ideas about what to do differently.

It's hard to pinpoint where the oil is leaking on the bottom side of the gearbox. I didn't use any sealant on the outside of the shaft seal, so that's one thing, I could use a speed sleeve on the shaft, but the shaft looked nice and smooth.

I could go with grease instead of oil, but that means more frequent maintenance. Has anyone put a zerk in this gearbox for periodic greasing?

Thanks for sharing your expertise and experience.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: Sand Blasting vs. Soda

eric freedman
 

Hi Craig,

Sorry, I don't recall.

If you speak with the vendor the product was used 3 years ago.

Best,

Eric

On July 18, 2020 at 11:24 AM "Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via groups.io" <sangaris@...> wrote:

Hi Eric,
The picture of the stipper you used doesn't show the full label but does show rockmiracle.com. I recall Rock Miracle is the brand I used years ago. It had methylene chloride which is the toxic stuff that made it work. Their website is under construction so I couldn't see if the product still has methylene chloride - there seems to be an "original" version and perhaps a newer "safe-but-doesn't-work-very-well" version. Did yours have methylene chloride and if so, do you know where to tget it?
Thanks,
Craig 


Re: Sand Blasting vs. Soda

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Eric,
The picture of the stipper you used doesn't show the full label but does show rockmiracle.com. I recall Rock Miracle is the brand I used years ago. It had methylene chloride which is the toxic stuff that made it work. Their website is under construction so I couldn't see if the product still has methylene chloride - there seems to be an "original" version and perhaps a newer "safe-but-doesn't-work-very-well" version. Did yours have methylene chloride and if so, do you know where to tget it?
Thanks,
Craig 


Re: Any data on B&G displays

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Stefan last week i have the same problem , i maild and fone some houers with B&g on the end is the processor takes the data in give it to the digital unit but not to the analog units . The think like bill the processor is after 22 jaers on the end .
I make a post in the facebook groop , i am lucky and one menber sell me his old one compleat sythem
Try it also

Best Elja
SM Balu 222


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Re: Santorin Genoa Furler Motor

Ian Park
 

Thanks Craig,
Mine’s pretty much identical. The first number is 065 instead of 165 and the last three digits in the serial number are 009 instead of 008. I tried to upload a photo of mine but it’s not working!
All my motors are with a car alternator/starter rebuild company. The sail motors are old Fiat starter motors. He got the brushes for these easily but the tension springs he finally managed to source from Poland. He’s still working on the genoa motor which he says is not a starter motor.

When it’s all sorted I’ll post any details on sourcing the parts. The Bosch motor must have a solution!

Best wishes

Ian
Sent from my iPad


Re: Santorin Bow Thruster/genoa furler breaker.

ste.dente
 

Hallo Mark,
my boat is a Santorin # 93, named Euploia. It’s on hard in Bocca di Magra-Italy
Cheers

Stefania Dente

Il giorno 17 lug 2020, alle ore 23:52, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> ha scritto:

Hi What Model and number is your boat?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376


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Re: Vintage Maramu dinghy stowage

Scott Williams
 

You should maybe check out the wee unit they have on YouTube’s “Sailing Florence” - it's a beautiful thing, if you like sailing a dinghy…


Scott
Future A50 owner





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From: smiles bernard via groups.io
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎18‎ ‎July‎ ‎2020 ‎3‎:‎48‎ ‎AM
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Wow that’s light!
When offshore do you use chicks on the deck and deflate or just strap it down inflated?

Likewise I’ve never seen the pudgy before - love a dinghy with a sail !

All the best




On 17 Jul 2020, at 14:31, INUS - BUSCH via groups.io <inusbusch@...> wrote:



@ Aras:  

I have never seen a Portland pudgy, it looks nice and sails!

What I have is a UL 270 Aluminum from 3d tender, inflatable with aluminium bottom, which fits on the fore deck of my sharki, weight is only 28 kg!

 

Dieter

Fal-lera, Sharki #135

 

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Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Vintage Maramu dinghy stowage

 

I traded in our inflatable for a Portland Pudgy. She tows quite nicely, however on longer passages I do have to mount it on the foredeck.  AS with the Maramu,  the Sharki's stern tapers quite a bit and the aft deck is not quite big enough to stow the Pudgy there.  So far I've been  stowing it upside down.  It makes it a bit harder to load and unload off the deck. I'm working on building a new cradle that would allow me to stow upright.

 

One other option I'm thinking about are low profile dink davits made of carbon fiber [the mizzen boom overhangs transom].  The davits would help greatly on short passages and make it easier to move boat around in tight places and improve visibility. Does anyone know of an outfit that works with carbon fiber?

 

Aras Grinius

S/V FIASCO

Sharki #163 1988

 

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 2:15 PM smiles bernard via groups.io <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi there

I’d be really interested to hear of others Maramu dinghy choice wrt stowage
The transom of the Maramu is quite a bit narrower than the SM and later models - as such davits don’t feel right as any dink would overhang the sides If the boat a lot

Plus I have a much treasured Hydrovane on the back

We currently carry an inflatable and also a nesting affair I made

The nesting dinghy stows Inverted under the mizzen boom but that space is not big enough for the inflatable which I pack up and stow in the fwd locker

Really interested in the options people have explored.

Does anyone mount their dinghy right side up on the deck on the foredeck? I’ve seen a few SMs with this setup but feels tight re space on the Maramu

All the very best

Miles
Maramu 162


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Re: Santorin Bow Thruster/genoa furler breaker.

eric freedman
 

Hi What Model and number is your boat?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376

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Sand Blasting vs. Soda

eric freedman
 

The pink holes in the hull were made by the factory to blow fresh air into the hull to ventilate it for the workers.

I used 4 coats of Interprotect . then 2 coats of hard epoxy and then 2 coats of ablative paint.

Last photo is of the chemical we used.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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Well, in this case, I am more old-fashion than Eric! Scrape, then sand.

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On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:38 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Eric, I would think with 13 gallons you would be able to coat the boat 4 times. Did it take multiple coats to get it down to the gel coat,was it the kind of stripper you place plastic over ? It seems like so much work,that I would like to have it sand blasted and be done with it,but on the other hand I don't want to damage the gel coat. There is always pros &cons ,decisions are never easy and obvious,at least not for me.

Thanks,

Pat

SM Shenanigans

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I preferred to do it the old fashioned way. I brought Kimberlite down to gel coat using 13 gallons of chemical stripper. It is tedious and 100% safe. You just don't know how good the operator of the soda blaster is. He might have 20 years of experience-- doing it the way. All the operator of the blaster has to do is lose concentration and blast right through the gelcoat and into Amels unique interior barrier coating.
Just a suspenders and belt solution. after washing the remnants of the stripper off , i had the boat sanded and applied 4 coats of Interprotect.
Kimberlite should now be good for another 18 years. Fair Winds
Eric


On July 16, 2020 at 2:33 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Pat,

Soda Blasting is significantly less aggressive then Sand Blasting and is much less likely to cause damage to your gelcoat.  Personally, I would not have my boat bottom Sand Blasted.

When I was considering what to do with Cara's bottom to remove all the layers of old anti-fouling, I contacted Olivier Beaute.  Olivier had done our pre-purchase survey and as part of the survey report he had recommended that we do something to remove the large accumulation of old antifouling at our next haul out.  When I asked him about Soda Blasting, he wrote:

"This is a good way to remove the old anti-fouling coats, as long as the operator is careful and does not insist too much on a specific area. In fact, as soon as the white gel-coat can be seen, the operator must move its tool. With 22 years of practice, these people surely know what they're doing.  What would be bad is to remove the gel-coat and get to the GRP, which would mean the glass scales coat is affected. This sometimes happens with dry sand- blasting, more rarely with wet-sand  blasting."

I also asked about adding a barrier coat after Soda Blasting, and he replied:

 "AMEL spreads polyester resin with glass scales, in the mold, after the gel coat is sprayed and before the first glass cloth. No epoxy as polyester and epoxy are not compatible when wet.  This is supposed to fight water penetration and it works rather good.  The epoxy coat as a « barrier » is not necessary because you already have one. Moreover, before you could apply epoxy, you would need to wait for the hull to be very dry.  All you need before the anti fouling is a coat of the primer recommended by the anti fouling manufacturer."

We decided to do two coats of Interprotect 2000e before applying out bottom coat anyway since we had her down to gelcoat for what we hope is the only time in our ownership.  


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


 


Re: Santorin Bow Thruster/genoa furler breaker.

Ian Park
 

I think it has been added by a previous owner. My hull is later - no. 96. Nice idea!

Ian


On 17 Jul 2020, at 19:53, Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via groups.io <sangaris@...> wrote:

Thanks, Stefania - It would seem Amel added the circuit breaker some time after my hull #68 (1992) and your # 93 - I think Ian was closer to mine.
Craig


Re: Santorin Bow Thruster/genoa furler breaker.

Craig Briggs
 

Thanks, Stefania - It would seem Amel added the circuit breaker some time after my hull #68 (1992) and your # 93 - I think Ian was closer to mine.
Craig


Santorin Bow Thruster/genoa furler breaker.

ste.dente
 

Stefania Dente


Bow Truster/ Furler photos

ste.dente
 

Here they are









Stefania Dente


Re: Santorin Bow Thruster/genoa furler breaker.

ste.dente
 

Hallo SN Amelians,
bere are the photo of my bow truster “station” with the electrical connections. If you need more infos, I’ll be glad to help.
Fair wind

Stefania Dente
SN 93
Bocca di Magra (Italy)