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Re: Perkins M 4.154 repairs

smiles bernard
 

Hi there Christian

I am new to Amel ownership
I have a maramu #162 with a perkins M65 700 series from 2000 ish
In terms of engine removal - does the cockpit hard top come off to allow the engine to be lifted? 

Also as my boat is in the canaries too (lanzarote currently but soon to move to anagas) any info about good mechanics or riggers in the area would be very helpful.

From your last post  - you now suspect the fuel lift pump seal- is that correct? If so i will rder a spare seal for my lift pump

All the very best with the engine rebuild

Miles
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Replacing AMFA Fresh Water System by Jabsco

greatketch@...
 

I use a parallel pair of Marco UPE2 gear pumps as my freshwater pump.  They are much more robustly built that the other alternatives to the Amel original pump I have seen, but of course you pay for that. I have a fair amount of experience with Whale, Jabsco, and other diaphragm pumps and most of it has been not good. We have had the Marcos in service for a year of full time service and are very happy.


The pressure is listed as "29 PSI" and that is a maximum.  We see pressures of 25psi in real world use.  That seems low, but with good fittings (especially shower heads) it is more than satisfactory.  The flow volume is more than we can use with two users fully open.  Having two pumps in parallel means I have a built-in installed spare in case of problems.  

Bill Kinney
SM160 Harmonie
LMC, Fort Lauderdale, FL







Re: Dish washer/washer dryer

greatketch@...
 

Jut one more data point:

On our boat the dishwasher was removed to make room for more storage a long time ago. We do not miss it.  We use way less water washing by hand, and do not find that to be a burden.

The clothes washer we use when we are away from the dock for extended periods (which is common).  If we know we are going to be tied to shore with access to commercial laundry facilities, we might save up laundry to do there.  On our Amel we have never done laundry by hand.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Head Pump Out

Mark Garver
 


Mark,

Thanks for the additional information, I am going to give it a try. Looking forward to the pictures of your poop straw. :)

Best,

Mark and Jennifer
S/V It's Good
AMEL SM #105
Currently in Gloucester, VA - Heading south to Charleston, SC soon!


On Nov 05, 2017, at 02:58 PM, "mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

 

Mark,

I had the same issues pumping out initially until I found Alex from Nikimat's page. I used that design to make what my wife and I affectionately call the "poop straw". We used this fitting from Defender:
Deck Fill Diameter: 1-5/8 Inch
Actual Thread Diameter: 1-1/4 Inch MPT
Threads / Inch: 11.5
Model #: 310343503

I simply screwed the fitting into 1.5" ID Sanitation Hose without any sealant or adhesive. We store it in a garbage bag in the port side deep locker.

This enabled us to pump out. However, we still struggled to get a good seal between the pump nozzle and the fitting on the "poop straw" mostly because the fitting did not sit flush with the deck due to the length of the hose. I decided to inspect our tank design and found that the bottom of our holding tanks are only about 17 inches below the deck. The drain hose from the bottom of the holding tank to the ball valve is obviously much further below the deck but getting the "poop straw" down in that hole was not easy and made the fitting not sit perpendicular to the deck. I decided to cut the length of the "poop straw" to approximately 17 inches below the foam seal on the fitting. I also made sure to cut the bottom on a bit of an angle. The fitting now sits flush with the deck and I can simply press the pump into the fitting to get a good seal and can pump out with ease. It doesn't empty the tank 100% but it does get the vast majority out and it now takes us no time and the process is significantly cleaner too. I will add a new album called "Holding Tank Pump Out" with some pictures of our "poop straw" to the photos section.

Hope this helps.

Mark
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Head Pump Out

Mark Garver
 


Alexandre,

Thank you for the quick reply! Also, so sorry to hear about your boat and all of the other issues you have had with Hurricane Harvey. St. Maarten is one of my favorite places and I used to live there several years ago, mostly while doing work there and is certainly on our list of sailing destinations. I hope things are getting better on the island for you and others. I have heard from a couple of friends, but not all, just hoping they are okay and simply dislocated. You are in our thoughts at all times and we are always hoping for the best for you!

Thanks again!

Mark


On Nov 05, 2017, at 11:53 AM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

 

Hello Mark & Jennifer,

here is what I used:
http://nikimat.com/pump_out_hose.html
The hose will suck from the bottom of your tank.

Never a fun experience, but gets better with time!

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 11/5/17, mgarver@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Head Pump Out
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 5, 2017, 10:14 AM


 









Having recently purchased Super Maramu
#105, we encountered a minor issue during our first pump out
and that issue being that the standard pump out adapters do
not simply screw on to the SM deck fittings, so of course I
used the non threaded push in attachment, which again was a
bit of an issue due to the diameter of the pump out at the
deck. Simply wrapping some rubber gloves around the
attachment, and holding it an a very specific position
allowed me to finally get the tanks pumped out. My questions
is this, "Is there a better method"? I have
actually considered getting an adapter made at a machine
shop that would allow us to simply use the standard pump out
attachments at the various marinas we will be at in the US.
Once Marina recommended changing the deck fittings for
something standard here, to which I said no, in fear of the
"Keeper of all things Amel", Bill R. haunting me
during every pump out.
Any previous experienced
fixes or suggestions to this situation? I apologize if this
was already a topic, but I did search and didn't see
it.
Thanks!
Mark and Jennifer
GarverS/V It's
GoodAmel Super Maramu #105





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] High quality spare Ropes SM 2000

greatketch@...
 

It is important to note that the manufacturer of the "Line Tender" that Amel modified to run the outhaul on the main boom and used for the main sail traveler ONLY recommends 12 mm line.  

If you try to use 10mm line you will have problems with it slipping.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Perkins M 4.154 repairs

James Alton
 

Alan Grayson,

   Thanks for the recommendation, it is good to know that this company has recent experience with the 4-154.   I will give Diesel Parts a call this week to find out the scoop on replacing the seal and maybe even use them at some point to go through the whole injection system.  It would sure be sad to loose a whole engine because of something as simple as a seal failing. 

   You must be very excited about your plans to purchase a late model Super Maramu.   I think that the SM is the pinnacle of the Amel designs from what I have seen.  

Best of luck,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Nov 5, 2017, at 12:24 PM, bazgrayson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

HI James, all diesel went into the crankcase, no evidence of leak on the pump. I don't believe you can replace seals without breaking it apart. I recommend calling diesel Parts in Houston, TX.  (713) 926-4439. The guys in the service dept ( 4 brothers) and super knowledgeable about Perkins engines. They rebuilt mine and a good friend with a 4154 also uses them. They are happy to answer any questions over the phone as well.

We would like a late model Super Maramu.
Alan Grayson



Re: Replacing AMFA Fresh Water System by Jabsco

seagasm@...
 

We replaced our AMFA pump back in 2011 when we were in Vanauatu, proved to be a very expensive exercise, only to have it fail again 2013. Old technoligy I'm afraid, the the plumbing method is used on every residence who are surviving on a rain water tank. I am not sure what the small Acumilator did that was mounted on the top of the pump itself, but we retained the 10 ltr Accumilator mounted behind the Quick Marine Boiler (Hot water system) that maintains a regular water pressure. We replaced the AMFA pump with a SPX Johnson Pump WPS 3.5. I managed to wire up the green light in the galley and the system has worked perfectly since.

Kind Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM # 171


[Amel Yacht Owners] Illustration removal outhaul boom transmission shaft.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Here is an illustration I wanted to post for a long time:

The removal of the shaft of the Leroy Somer (or Bonfiglioli Model VF44) outhaul boom transmission.

This is the very first repair I did in March 2013, it is not a good illustration, many missing pictures, but will help new Amel owners.

http://nikimat.com/furler_transmission_outhaul_shaft_removal_main_mast.html

Also you will see the differences between the Leroy Somer Mini Bloc MVA and the Bonfiglioli Model VF44 on the below link:
http://nikimat.com/furler_transmission_leroy_somer_vs_bonfiglioli.html

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT


Re: Hurth Gearbox heat exchanger coupling

mfmcgovern@...
 

Fred,

I just climbed into the engine room and double-checked. Mine are the same size on each side of the Heat Exchanger. I also measured them and 3367 is the correct size at 32mm ID on one side and 51mm on the other. However, take this with a grain of salt as I have no idea if Amel used the same cooler on all SMs.

Mark
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furling Gearbox Differences

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Since my boat is equipped with the Leroy Somer Mini Bloc MVA outhaul transmissions and I have 2 spares of the Bonfiglioli Model VF44 I wanted to see if they are identical.

Here are the differences I found:
http://nikimat.com/furler_transmission_leroy_somer_vs_bonfiglioli.html

Sincerely, Alexandre







For those of you
who have more experiences with Amel's of different
vintages... are there fitting differences between
the Leroy Somer and Bonfiglioli gearboxes used on
the Mainmast furling system? 

Are they interchangeable? 
Interchangeable with modifications?  Or just too different
to try?
Thanks!
Bill
KinneySm160,
HarmonieDeltaville,
VAWaiting for the last of TS
Philippe to go by so we can head
south.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hurth Gearbox heat exchanger coupling

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Fred,

Mark is correct and I have experience with SM 387 and this cooler. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 5, 2017 15:47, "scentstone@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Mark,


Thank you for this useful piece of information.
I'm not aboard but I have in mind that the Bowman rubber reducers are different on both size.
Are you experienced in replacement of this and can you confirm that the cooler is setup with 2 of this reference part number 3367 ?

Thank you very much for your cooperation.
Fred
S/V ScentStone 
SM2K #375


Re: Hurth Gearbox heat exchanger coupling

scentstone
 

Hi Mark,

Thank you for this useful piece of information.
I'm not aboard but I have in mind that the Bowman rubber reducers are different on both size.
Are you experienced in replacement of this and can you confirm that the cooler is setup with 2 of this reference part number 3367 ?

Thank you very much for your cooperation.
Fred
S/V ScentStone 
SM2K #375


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Head Pump Out

mfmcgovern@...
 

Mark,

I had the same issues pumping out initially until I found Alex from Nikimat's page. I used that design to make what my wife and I affectionately call the "poop straw". We used this fitting from Defender:
Deck Fill Diameter: 1-5/8 Inch
Actual Thread Diameter: 1-1/4 Inch MPT
Threads / Inch: 11.5
Model #: 310343503

I simply screwed the fitting into 1.5" ID Sanitation Hose without any sealant or adhesive. We store it in a garbage bag in the port side deep locker.

This enabled us to pump out. However, we still struggled to get a good seal between the pump nozzle and the fitting on the "poop straw" mostly because the fitting did not sit flush with the deck due to the length of the hose. I decided to inspect our tank design and found that the bottom of our holding tanks are only about 17 inches below the deck. The drain hose from the bottom of the holding tank to the ball valve is obviously much further below the deck but getting the "poop straw" down in that hole was not easy and made the fitting not sit perpendicular to the deck. I decided to cut the length of the "poop straw" to approximately 17 inches below the foam seal on the fitting. I also made sure to cut the bottom on a bit of an angle. The fitting now sits flush with the deck and I can simply press the pump into the fitting to get a good seal and can pump out with ease. It doesn't empty the tank 100% but it does get the vast majority out and it now takes us no time and the process is significantly cleaner too. I will add a new album called "Holding Tank Pump Out" with some pictures of our "poop straw" to the photos section.

Hope this helps.

Mark
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Hurth Gearbox heat exchanger coupling

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Bernard,

Mine is a ZF25-2.8

But it doesn't mention the oil cooler parts at all.....maybe they are from Amel.
Cheers
alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Hurth Gearbox heat exchanger coupling

mfmcgovern@...
 

Bowman part number 3367: https://www.asap-supplies.com/us/bowman-end-cap-3367np

Mark
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Hurth Gearbox heat exchanger coupling

smiles bernard
 


Hi alan
I don't know what type of gearbox you have but Perhaps this helps

Looks like there are part numbers in this 

All the best
Miles


Hurth Gearbox heat exchanger coupling

Alan Leslie
 

Hi folks,

Does anyine have a part number / source for the rubber reducer couplings on the ends of the heat exchanger for the Hurth gearbox as used with the Yanmar 4JH3HTE ?
Thanks

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] High quality spare Ropes SM 2000

Paul Osterberg
 

For the outhaul I use 12 mm rope with vectran core, the benefit with Vectran over dyneema is less creap and less elongation at load. The 12 mm give better grip in the Anderson line tender. The disadvantage with Vectran is poor UV stability, but as you have a cover that is less of an issue. In Germany you have Liros rope they do a lot of Vectran ropes both with low friction and high friction. Of course choose a high friction rope. We bought from Liros and it works well. Remember to pre stretch the rope before installing 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] High quality spare Ropes SM 2000

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Olivier,

I know exactly which one you need (for the Outhaul).

I don’t have any 10mm, only 16mm and I am in Sint Maarten.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 11/5/17, Oliver Buhlert-von Duehren obuhlert@gmx.de [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] High quality spare Ropes SM 2000
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 5, 2017, 10:52 AM


 









Hello
Alexandre,
for spare I need a 10 diameter to
replace in case another 10 diameter Kevlar. 
For replacement it is the rope
which is „moving" the boom extension car of the main
boom. 
We are in the US.
OliverSV JoEmiSM 2000 No. 397  
Am 05.11.2017 um 16:49 schrieb
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>:
Hello Olivier, 

Which “rope”?  
and where are you
located?

Sincerely
Alexandre

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On Sun,
11/5/17, qmvwv3fna4dth3r32bdwtz3bpy7meopg2s2xlnuq@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] High quality spare Ropes SM 2000
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday,
November 5, 2017, 9:17 AM


 









Hello,
We plan to replace one rope
and would like to
buy some very good spare ropes- just
for,the case. We are looking for
the original ropes or maybe
better ones.
Any recommendations. So far
we would choose
again Kevlar ropes. We don't need
halyards.
Oliver SV
JoEmiSM 2000 No. 397