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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Illustration on swapping the Aft & Forward Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9

John Clark
 

Thanks Alex, 
   I'm replacing the original AC unit in the saloon in a few weeks.  It is the old split system with the compressor in the engine room.  
The new complete package fits in the same space under the bench as the old evaporator section.   Your pictures and instructions will be a lot of help with the conversion.  

       Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie  SM 37
Charleston, SC

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


I recently had a failure on the Aft Air Conditioning and decided to swap the unit with the one of the Forward cabin.

So for the owners like myself who are intimidated by repair they have never done performed, I illustrated the “swapping the Aft and Forward Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9”. 

It was not difficult, but not without unexpected surprised.
If you plan on removing or installing either the Aft or Forward cabin unit, I seriously recommend you look at ALL the pictures and sections as I pictures differently the removal and reinstallation of each unit.
Plus some section are more detailed on the harness reconnection, etc.

Here is the link:
http://nikimat.com/air_conditioning_climma_marine_compact_9_eh.html

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Port de Plaisance de Gustavia, Saint Barthélémy, French West Indies



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fabric and hardware for curtains?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Denise,

I do not have any information you asked for except, most fabric patterns are down the roll and the useable width of most fabric is 54". 

And, most importantly, buy the UV Liner from Sailrite as it is better than most. Also their sew-on fuzzy Velcro is good. 

Additionally, you might want to buy twice as much fabric as needed to have it to replace when needed. 

If someone on their Super Maramu could measure the inside track widths for you, possibly you'll find a match at Sailrite. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jul 12, 2017 12:04, "Mcgovern.denise@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Anybody have an estimate for how much fabric is needed to make new curtains for a Super Maramu?


Anyone successfully buy the curtain slides online or from Sailrite, or only available from Amel?  I will reuse what I can, but I know some of the clips are broken.


I would like to order supplies and the boat is with Mark on passage home to the Chesapeake.


Thanks,

Denise

s/v Cara

SM #440


[Amel Yacht Owners] Illustration on swapping the Aft & Forward Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I recently had a failure on the Aft Air Conditioning and decided to swap the unit with the one of the Forward cabin.

So for the owners like myself who are intimidated by repair they have never done performed, I illustrated the “swapping the Aft and Forward Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9”. 

It was not difficult, but not without unexpected surprised.
If you plan on removing or installing either the Aft or Forward cabin unit, I seriously recommend you look at ALL the pictures and sections as I pictures differently the removal and reinstallation of each unit.
Plus some section are more detailed on the harness reconnection, etc.

Here is the link:
http://nikimat.com/air_conditioning_climma_marine_compact_9_eh.html

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Port de Plaisance de Gustavia, Saint Barthélémy, French West Indies


Original Side Curtain Fasteners

James Alton
 

Hello everyone,


   We are  replacing the side curtain clears on our 1987 Amel Maramu.   As the boat is in Sardinia and we are in Canada, we are trying to find out the correct size eyelets to install into the new side curtains.  We want these to fit the original twist turns that are fastened to the inside of the fibreglass dodger.   It appears that the US version of the eyelets might be too small to fit the original twist turns, but I cannot verify that.  Any help is appreciated.


Best to all Amel owners,


James and Joann Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Antal Jib sheet car parts

eric freedman
 

Hi Gary,

Please let me know how the disassembly of the Amel logo sheave goes. I found the screws totally welded to the sheave an had to cut the sheave with a hacksaw and get a new one from Amel.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 11:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Antal Jib sheet car parts

 

 

Hi all:

 

One of my Antal jib sheet cars had failure of the plastic runners that line the cars and provide the bearing surface upon which the car slides on the "T"  track.  This left me with metal on metal for that interface and that is untenable.  I emailed Antal and they referred me to euromarinetrading.com  here in the USA.  

 

These folks were very helpful and they supplied me with two sets of Part Number  G30.40A PVC inserts 160 mm long,   for $18.25 per set  plus shipping.  These are the original OEM sliders. 

 

This repair will require removal of the car from the track to install them but I believe the car removal can be accomplished by removing the bolt at the end of the track and also removing the car traveler pulley mechanism at the aft end of the track.  I need to remove this to replace the Amel logo aluminum pulleys at the base of that apparatus anyway.  I think this will provide clearance without having to grind some of the "T" section but that is yet to be determined.  

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona

Amel SM 2000 #335

Puerto Rico

 


Fabric and hardware for curtains?

Denise McGovern
 

Anybody have an estimate for how much fabric is needed to make new curtains for a Super Maramu?


Anyone successfully buy the curtain slides online or from Sailrite, or only available from Amel?  I will reuse what I can, but I know some of the clips are broken.


I would like to order supplies and the boat is with Mark on passage home to the Chesapeake.


Thanks,

Denise

s/v Cara

SM #440


Re: Amel 54 MasterVol alternator regulator upgrade (from Alpha Pro to Alpha Pro 2)

greatketch@...
 

Thomas,

The "W" terminal on those alternators is a direct tap off the stator that gives an unrectified alternating current feed used by the tachometer to figure out how fast the alternator, and hence the engine, is turning.

The alternator regulators I am familiar with do not use this feed to do anything other than generate their own tachometer feed signal, and it can be left connected as it is to avoid more rewiring.  I'll hedge that by saying I am not intimately familiar with the Mastervolt regulators...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


---In amelyachtowners@..., <svgarulfo@...> wrote :

Hi all, 

Has anyone gone through the exercise of upgrading the MasterVolt Alpha Pro alternator regulator from the version installed by Amel to the MasterBus compatible version (Alpha Pro 2, aka Alpha Pro MB). 

They are very similar but the newer one, being MasterBus compatible, is easier to monitor and configure.

Amel's wiring on the 54 involves a couple a relays and a mystery box that I believe is a static 12/24v converter and I'd like to gain confidence about the setup before doing the transplant. 


Attached is a badly drawn diagram of what I believe the connections are.

I'm confused about the purple wire connected to the W pole of the alternator, especially because the new version of the regulator has an extra connection point that is meant to be wired directly to that W pole.

Any tips greatly appreciated, as always.


Thanks

Fair winds

Thomas

-- 
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


Amel 54 MasterVol alternator regulator upgrade (from Alpha Pro to Alpha Pro 2)

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all, 

Has anyone gone through the exercise of upgrading the MasterVolt Alpha Pro alternator regulator from the version installed by Amel to the MasterBus compatible version (Alpha Pro 2, aka Alpha Pro MB). 

They are very similar but the newer one, being MasterBus compatible, is easier to monitor and configure.

Amel's wiring on the 54 involves a couple a relays and a mystery box that I believe is a static 12/24v converter and I'd like to gain confidence about the setup before doing the transplant. 


Attached is a badly drawn diagram of what I believe the connections are.

I'm confused about the purple wire connected to the W pole of the alternator, especially because the new version of the regulator has an extra connection point that is meant to be wired directly to that W pole.

Any tips greatly appreciated, as always.


Thanks

Fair winds

Thomas

-- 
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: hazy wind screen

Courtney Gorman
 

Thanks Bill 



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 7/11/17 6:41 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: hazy wind screen

 

At least some of the polishes have that effect. RainX makes a formulation for plastic that works also.

Don't expect miracles. Even when water beads on the window, there (usually) isn't enough wind to blow it off, not like an auto windscreen at 50 miles an hour! It does help, just not a total fix.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: hazy wind screen

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

And, don't forget, it will be saltwater on the Plexiglass. If you wipe or squeegee the Plexiglass, you may damage it. Use lots of freshwater before using a squeegee. 

I have not known anyone to remove crazing from Plexiglass. I have always assumed that crazing is deep UD damage and not on the surface. Am I wrong about this?


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jul 11, 2017 17:41, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

At least some of the polishes have that effect. RainX makes a formulation for plastic that works also.

Don't expect miracles. Even when water beads on the window, there (usually) isn't enough wind to blow it off, not like an auto windscreen at 50 miles an hour! It does help, just not a total fix.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: hazy wind screen

greatketch@...
 

At least some of the polishes have that effect. RainX makes a formulation for plastic that works also.

Don't expect miracles. Even when water beads on the window, there (usually) isn't enough wind to blow it off, not like an auto windscreen at 50 miles an hour! It does help, just not a total fix.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


Re: Shipping sails from the US to Europe

Dave_Benjamin
 

I can't speak for any other sailmakers but there is no duty on sails that we supply to customers in the EU. 
Our prices include VAT prepaid so there are zero surprises. 

I own Island Planet Sails if you're not familiar. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: hazy wind screen

Courtney Gorman
 

so do these polishes give any water repellent effect like rain X does on windshields?  If not is there anything people use to keep the Screens cleaner during sailing?
Thanks
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Wells gary@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Jul 11, 2017 12:08 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: hazy wind screen

 
Meguiars also makes a three step cleaner, polish and wax system for plexiglass. Int's called "Mirror Glaze" I used to use it on aircraft windscreens all the time and now on Adagio. Some elbow grease, but a nice, clear finish afterwards.

Gary W
S/V Adagio, SM 209
Spokane, WA (us, not the boat :)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: hazy wind screen

Rick Swinemar Jazz II Maramu #144
 

How long does it last Gary?
Rick S

On Jul 11, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Gary Wells gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Meguiars also makes a three step cleaner, polish and wax system for plexiglass. Int's called "Mirror Glaze" I used to use it on aircraft windscreens all the time and now on Adagio. Some elbow grease, but a nice, clear finish afterwards. 

Gary W
S/V Adagio, SM 209
Spokane, WA (us, not the boat :)



Re: hazy wind screen

Gary Wells
 

Meguiars also makes a three step cleaner, polish and wax system for plexiglass. Int's called "Mirror Glaze" I used to use it on aircraft windscreens all the time and now on Adagio. Some elbow grease, but a nice, clear finish afterwards.

Gary W
S/V Adagio, SM 209
Spokane, WA (us, not the boat :)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 5131[1 Attachment]

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Paul,

Yes there are several products designed to polish hazy/scratched plastic -you'll get what you pay for: the best are used on the plastic windscreens of airplanes.  Heavy/deep scratches can not be repaired however minor haze and shallow scratches can be temporarily corrected.  Just to set the proper expectations, though, the polish is not permanent.  Depending on the exposure, the improvement will last from six months to a year and then need re-polishing but it is certainly better than replacing the windscreens.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121
Currently in Ensenada, MX


On Monday, July 10, 2017 6:30 PM, "amelyachtowners@..." wrote:


3 Messages

Digest #5131
2a
2b
Re: Hazy wind screen by "Ben Driver/YAHOO" ben_and_gayle_driver

Messages

1a

Re: Shipping sails from the US to Europe

Sun Jul 9, 2017 6:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

bill_9895


Greg,


I have no first hand experience with the mainland EU, but many islands in the Caribbean, including those that are officially part of the EU, have VAT and Duty exceptions for "Yachts in Transit." Taxes are not collected on imports that are addressed to boats with a valid short-term cruising permit.


Of course if your yacht has been imported into the UK or other EU country and is not "in transit" Duty and VAT are probably just going to be the cost of life.


For Duty purposes, be sure you know where your sails are really coming from. Very few are made in the USA anymore, most coming from Siri Lanka, Thailand, Hong Kong, or China.


It's worth a closer look with someone who really knows what they are talking about!


Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston,Mass




---In amelyachtowners@...,
I have just had the unpleasant experience of shipping an ammeter from the US to the UK and being hit with 22% duty and VAT plus handling and clearing charges. Apparently this now happens routinely, if the item is more than about $45.
Not a big deal because the value is small, but I had been thinking of sourcing some sails in the US and shipping them direct to Italy later this year.
Has anyone had any experience with US sails being shipped into the EU? I really don't want a surprise like I got with the ammeter.

Greg Shea
Cap des Iles, Sharki 133


2a

Hazy wind screen

Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:

sykerpa

Our starboard wind screen have patches which are hazy, if one put water or wash them it dissapere, but as soon as it dries the haziness is back. It looks almost as on a car windscren when wenitilation is poor and the surface just starts to get #foggy# anyone know if it is possible to get rid of the haziness?
Have anyone tried to polish the screen? when I was a kid we use to make items in # Plexiglas # and when polished they shined as crystal.
If we need to change the wind screen, anyone who had made that so that one also can open the starboard windscreen
Pail on SY Kerpa SM #259






2b

Re: Hazy wind screen

Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Ben Driver/YAHOO" ben_and_gayle_driver

It is possible to clean off haze. I used Novus 7100 plastic polish kit. It consists of three containers: 1) for cleaning and polishing ; 2) for light scratch removal and ; 3) for heavy scratch removal . It costs $16 on Amazon. You will need serious elbow grease or - preferably - a power buffer to get stellar results.
Ben
Attachment(s) from Ben Driver/YAHOO
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler

hanspeter baettig
 

Hello Bill
Verry well explaind! It's exactly how to handle it . I do this since 22 years with Tamango 2
and had never a problem with my furling gears. 
Greetings and regards
Hanspeter
SM16, Tamango 2
Porto Cervo, Sardinia
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Am 09.07.2017 um 15:42 schrieb greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hanspeter,


I am sure Bill R. will have his own thoughts to add, but here are my ideas...

I believe you are suggesting that the sail needs to be rolled up to gybe.  I never do this.  There is no need. Boats with traditional sails do not douse the sail to gybe, and you do not have to either.  Here is my normal procedure, which is basically the same for the main and the mizzen:
  1. Sail at 160 to 150 degrees off the true wind.
  2. Loosen the preventer, and detach from the gunwale. I usually leave it attached to the boom and let it come across with the sail. If you use two preventers, it is even easier, just uncleat the one on the leeward side.
  3. Bring in the main sheet until the boom is almost over the traveler. If you set it up too tight the traveler will be hard to move.
  4. Move the traveler all the way over to what will become the new windward side of the boat.
  5. Slowly turn the boat to 160-150 degrees off the apparent wind on the new tack. During the turn the boom will cross to the new side.  If you have removed most of the slack from the system, it will not be a violent event..
  6. As soon as the boom crosses, ease the sheet.
  7. Reattach and tighten the preventer.
A second part of your question might be how to furl the sail when reaching or running in strong winds.  The answer is you need to come up into the wind enough to get the sail luffing, off the shrouds and the boom free. This is not at all unique to a roller furling sail.  A traditional slab reef sail can not be pulled down if it is held tight to shrouds by 30 knots of wind. Once the sail is fully luffing it can be rolled up.  You do not need to point the bow into the wind, but you DO need to get the wind pressure off the sail.  No need for the engine, the jib will keep you moving along at an appropriate wind angle.
.  
Can you get away with rolling the sail under tension?  Yes--sometimes.  Maybe even most of the time. But doing so risks fouling the sail, and is very hard on the sail, and the furling gear and should be avoided. If you have battens in the sail, it might not be possible.

Hopefully, by the time the true wind has gotten to 30 knots you have a pretty significant amount of sail already rolled up, ("Reef early!  Reef often!")  so the last bit goes pretty easily.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hello Bill
Brilliant how do you explains to the US newbes how to furling the  mainsail. I agree.But please explaine us how you furling in the main mainsail (as a Commander Emeritus)
how to furling the mainsail, ocean crossing, tradwinds 30 kn on the reach or behind, and you do neede to make a jib. Of cours you set up a "bullen stander" to avoid a jyb in the the stars.
Hope you and your wife have a  good time in your new house down the Texas cost 👍
Best regards
Hanspeter
Tamango 2
SM 16
Cacliaria, Sardinia, Italy

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse & marina

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I am not on my boat at the moment. However I will get the model number. Dometic states that it will work on 50/60 HZ . The Climma units are labeled 50 HZ  but work fine on 60 HZ

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse & marina

 

 

From Alexandres photo, the unit is marked 220V 50hz, yet we can plug these into US power at 60 hz.  I just find it odd that they don't mark it with both frequencies...or did Amel modify it somehow?

 

The Dometic system that Eric mentions must have the same 50/60hz ability, but on the web site they list different units for 50hz vs 60hz, there isn't one that will handle either frequency.

 

I understand some appliances are not frequency sensitive, but I thought a compressor would be?

 

Just curious...

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Shipping sails from the US to Europe

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

You are obliged to pay customs and VAT as soon as you buy things outside from an other country then were you are. Within Europe, there is a VAT-free commercial area, meaning you don't need to pay VAT Or customs when shopping from one EU-Country To an other.
If you are a "boat-in-transit" you can get your VAT money back, when you leave EU, but not the customs fee. And the refund is complicated. It means you have to pay the VAT first.

My suggestion is that you buy your sail here in Europe instead.

Regards
Annsofie, S/Y Lady Annila SM 232, 1998
Present at Kefalonia, Greece


Skickat från min iPad

10 juli 2017 kl. 02:57 skrev greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


Greg,

I have no first hand experience with the mainland EU, but many islands in the Caribbean, including those that are officially part of the EU, have VAT and Duty exceptions for "Yachts in Transit."  Taxes are not collected on imports that are addressed to boats with a valid short-term cruising permit.  

Of course if your yacht has been imported into the UK or other EU country and is not "in transit" Duty and VAT are probably just going to be the cost of life.

For Duty purposes, be sure you know where your sails are really coming from.  Very few are made in the USA anymore, most coming from Siri Lanka, Thailand, Hong Kong, or China.

It's worth a closer look with someone who really knows what they are talking about! 

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston,Mass



---In amelyachtowners@..., <gmshea@...> wrote :

I have just had the unpleasant experience of shipping an ammeter from the US to the UK and being hit with 22% duty and VAT plus handling and clearing charges. Apparently this now happens routinely, if the item is more than about $45.
Not a big deal because the value is small, but I had been thinking of sourcing some sails in the US and shipping them direct to Italy later this year.
Has anyone had any experience with US sails being shipped into the EU? I really don't want a surprise like I got with the ammeter.

Greg Shea
Cap des Iles, Sharki 133


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hazy wind screen

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you we will try that
Paul