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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration
eric freedman
Dave, My experience with the poles is that the poles are supported by the lines and very little if any force is on the rigging loop. The loop is used basically to support the pole while you are rigging the lines. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 3:41 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration
Hello All,
Would anyone have any suggestions on how one might obtain a second downwind pole setup for a Santorin? Seems unlikely Amel would still carry them but I haven’t checked. We have one, and I was planning on using a poled out genoa and prevented main for a downwind rig, but with all the praise for the dual headsail setup and hearing how much less roll there is makes me realize I’d like the two.
Also, does anyone have any concern regarding the wire clamps for the pole support on the shrouds, in that they do seem slightly angulated to the long axis of the wires, thus potentially causing a stress riser or work hardening in this area over time. Many thanks.
Dave Bruce, Liesse SN06
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Amel 54 with Volkswagen engine/owners
amelforme
Hello everyone. Could some owners of Amel 54’s with the Volkswagen marine diesel give me some information regarding the following? I would appreciate it greatly and many thanks in advance.
OVERALL SATISFACTION:
EASE OF ACCESS TO AUTHORIZED DEALER SERVICE/ ASSISTANCE: WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED:
GENERAL QUALITY OF DEALER SERVICE:
ANY REOCCURING TECHNICAL PROBLEMS:
RELIABILITY/DEPENDABILITY:
WHAT DO YOU LIKE BEST ABOUT THIS ENGINE:
WHAT DO YOU LIKE THE LEAST ABOUT THIS ENGINE:
IF YOU ABSOLUTELY HAD TO PICK ANOTHER ENGINE, WHICH ONE WOULD IT BE:
Again, thanks in advance and I truly appreciate any and all responses. This information will allow me to better serve my Amel customers in the future.
All The Best, Joel
Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954 462 5869 office 954 812 2485 cell
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration
Hello All,
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Would anyone have any suggestions on how one might obtain a second downwind pole setup for a Santorin? Seems unlikely Amel would still carry them but I haven’t checked. We have one, and I was planning on using a poled out genoa and prevented main for a downwind rig, but with all the praise for the dual headsail setup and hearing how much less roll there is makes me realize I’d like the two. Also, does anyone have any concern regarding the wire clamps for the pole support on the shrouds, in that they do seem slightly angulated to the long axis of the wires, thus potentially causing a stress riser or work hardening in this area over time. Many thanks. Dave Bruce, Liesse SN06
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: DC Panel dial and green light in star
John Clark
Chris you have it down perfect. Maintain a work/boat - life balance. It will get there. Olives! I love it.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:49 PM, rettirc@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] DC Panel dial and green light in star
John Clark
Thanks JP, I will give that a try!
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: DC Panel dial and green light in star
rettirc@...
Thanks guys,
I would never have guessed that as it is not working!! Why does it turn on the green "star" light (on 24v panel) at a certain setting? I shall try that with the engine, and yes the tachometer has been a little temperamental at the beginning. I ended up putting a jump cable to the field to stop the buzzer. Also found that the temp gauge is over reading, verified with temp gun. Hmmmm, is it the gauge or probe? Any way to test? Another thing I am very concerned about is that balooner halyard either broke or came undone while drying the spinnaker, it is now jammed inside the main mast. Do the halyards run in guides in the mast? With the electric toilet blocking, our 3 year old son finally admitted to eating the olive pips, I gave them back to him. I originally thought that I was going to find a Lego man!! One job at a time, although my wife keeps reminding that we need to play too. I do enjoy the little projects, but no more olives aloud onboard!!! Chris
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] DC Panel dial and green light in star
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
Hello John Clark,
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Point of knowledge for you; you only need to pull out the throttle/gear lever laterally to starboard and this allows you to remain in neutral while revving up the engine… :-) Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] DC Panel dial and green light in star
John Clark
Hi Chris, Darn it Mike beat me to it! Yes, it is the light for the compass at the helm. You can dim it as needed to maintain night vision. I know there will be a few issues with a boat that has as many systems as the Amel, but with the forum you should be able to find answers from people who have been there....and one or two that have literally written books on the Amel. I might address your 12v main engine alternator issue. I have an older SM that was updated to the same engine I suspect you have, the Volvo TMD22. My 12v alternator sometimes does not want to wake up in the morning. What has resolved the issue was to rev the engine to about 2000rpm in neutral(go into engine room and locally activate the throttle linkage without putting transmission in gear) then quickly back to idle. Might take a try or two. It usually catches. Once woken up it is good for the day. Is your tachometer also showing no activity? Regards, John John Clark SV Annie SM37 cruising Pamlico Sound
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Mike Ondra mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] DC Panel dial and green light in star
Binnacle light Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid
On Aug 15, 2017 11:47 AM, "rettirc@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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DC Panel dial and green light in star
rettirc@...
After being on our new (to us) Super Maramu for about 2 weeks, there have been a few challenges thrown at me from generator stopping, air conditioning raw water pump issues, 12v alternator on main engine not working, torn head sail, blocked electric toilet, tender outboard overheating, flat start battery, main battery bank low,..............etc I am starting to learn the ropes of boat ownership!!!!!! I was once told, "the only that that works on a boat, is the owner". Anyway we have just arrived in Langkawi, Malaysia from Phuket, Thailand and honestly enjoying the boat. My question is, what is the dial on the DC panel for? It does turn on a green light in the star, however I am sure it has another purpose, could somebody please help me. The very few manuals I have are in French and I failed that subject at school. On another note, just to ensure I don't get bored, I have new standing rigging arriving in the next few days from ACMO. Chris SM224 Lena S, changing to Jaygo
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Re: DC Grounding fault
ofer magen
Hi Alan, I had the same problem. The way to solve it is to start from the main big red battery switchs. Disconnect all cables going out from the (minus),then connect them each at a time and check for the leak.i found it to be the motor of the bow thruster . If the cable you found is going to another junction, check there, the same way. Good luck. Ofer Amel 54 160 Now in gocek ,Turkey.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem
eric freedman
Hi Willem, What solenoid are you referring to? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 3:27 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem
Hi Mark and other Amel lovers,
Yes, the problem appears to be the solenoid. Before this problem the Onan had a different problem that was caused by me. I put some rags to clean the dipstick onder the Kubota and the result was lots of black smoke. I realized after consulting the installation manual that this problem was caused by lack of air. Now the generator is running with a piece of rope plus shock cord to hold the solenoid valve into the 'on' position. So the electric shut off is not working anymore and I have to do this by hand. The problem is that also the fault mechanism is not working and that is a risk, I have to take until the new solenoid arrives.
Best regards,
Willem
SM #351 "Kavanga" at anchor in Falmouth waiting for a favourable wind to cross the Biscay.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
Hello again Willem,
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Seapower Marine is a good parts supplier in UK (Falmouth)… especially if you are pressed for time. +44 1473 718713 Good luck with your fix. Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem
Willem Kroes
Hi Mark and other Amel lovers, Yes, the problem appears to be the solenoid. Before this problem the Onan had a different problem that was caused by me. I put some rags to clean the dipstick onder the Kubota and the result was lots of black smoke. I realized after consulting the installation manual that this problem was caused by lack of air. Now the generator is running with a piece of rope plus shock cord to hold the solenoid valve into the 'on' position. So the electric shut off is not working anymore and I have to do this by hand. The problem is that also the fault mechanism is not working and that is a risk, I have to take until the new solenoid arrives. Best regards, Willem SM #351 "Kavanga" at anchor in Falmouth waiting for a favourable wind to cross the Biscay.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique
eric freedman
John, Thanks Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 2:45 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique
Hi Eric, I just had Caraibe rerig SM 37. They were fast and efficient. You might save some $$ on VAT by talking to Douglas Rapier at Douglas Yacht Services. I obtained a VAT exemption certificate from him that covered all the work and purchases for my refit in Marin.
Regards, John
John Clark SV Annie SM 37 Cruising Pamlico Sound
On Aug 14, 2017 2:39 PM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Thanks Ben, Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi Eric, This is rigger Amel recommends.
Gaetan Rivet Caraibe Greement Email: gaetan@... Cell #: 596696415642 Le Marin MARTINIQUE 97290
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Amel Le Marin contact info:
Caraibes - Amel FR Amel Jean Collin Office: +596 (0) 596 58 50 37
Ben Driver S/V La Bella Vita SM #347
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: DC Grounding fault
Thomas Peacock
Hello Alan,
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I must admit I do not understand the issue that Raymarine raises with the AC connected to the laptop. As most of us on this forum say, “I’m not an electrician, but”… I don’t know if this is a specific Raymarine issue, or if it applies to most or all AIS units. I can’t help but think it might be a generic issue, perhaps just more recognized by Raymarine. Why a laptop running just on battery is OK, but a laptop that is also plugged into 110 or 220 is not, it beyond me. Nevertheless, below is the page from my manual. Tom Peacock SM #240 Aletes Rock Hall, Maryland Warning: Do NOT connect a USB device with an AC power source Your Raymarine product includes a USB data connection. To prevent potential grounding problems and possible damage to equipment:
Installing USB drivers Prior to connecting the AIS to A PC the USB drivers must rst be installed. To install follow the steps below:
AIS350 Receiver 35 Note: If the USB connection is removed from the PC during use you must reset the connection before further use. To reset the connection disconnect then reapply power to the AIS before closing and re-launching any PC applications using the USB connection. Finally, reconnect the USB cable between the PC and AIS unit. Power connection Power supply protection Always protect the power supply by connecting the red (positive) wire to the supply via a 2 A fuse or equivalent automatic circuit breaker.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: DC Grounding fault
Hello Thomas,
I have an AMEC Camino 101 AIS Transponder. The manual doesn't mention anything like that. And in fact it wouldn't be a problem in most boats with DC-ve connected to ground anyway. I have this morning installed a small 24V-19V converter to power the laptop so I don't need to use the charger and the problem has gone away. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] winter liveaboard?
eric freedman
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] winter liveaboard?
Ryan Meador
Hi Eric, I talked to Frank about winterizing, but that information only goes so far, since I'll actually be living on it and I'll need most of the systems functional, not winterized (fresh water, heads, etc). As best I can recall in my conversation with Frank, he didn't have any info on how warm the boat was in the winter. This boat is equipped with an extra outlet with its own breaker in the aft cabin which is intended for a heater (I do not know if this is standard). The breaker panel has the same symbol for another breaker as well, but I don't know where that leads. I believe these are in addition to the heaters built into the air conditioning system, but I'm not entirely clear on that. If they are, maybe they're sufficient? 50A@240V should be more than enough power to keep the boat warm, if it comes down to it, but that's $2160/month so hopefully nothing near that much power is required! Thanks, Ryan
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: DC Grounding fault
Thomas Peacock
Not sure what type of AIS you have; however, my Raymarine AIS manual makes a big deal about NOT having your laptop connected to AC if you are running USB from your laptop to AIS.
On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:22 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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