Re: Ladder
Mark McGovern
James, Assuming you have the OEM Amel bumper, the bumper would likely just rip off the back of the boat if you tried that. It's made from some sort of foam rubber and held in place by just two M8 bolts with some fender washers. The bolts are meant to hold up the weight of the bumper and keep it in place in a compression load (bumping into a dock, etc.). They are not meant to hold the weight of a ladder and person pulling down on the bumper. -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Cook top dimensions
Gerhard Mueller
Responding to Gerhard, yours seems a brilliant solution but from the photo I cannot understand if the system is gimballing or you are using it only in the fixed positionPaolo Since I don't have 220 Volt on board I can use the cooker only in the harbor. -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Re: Cook top dimensions
Bryce Procter
Hi Paolo,
Thanks and apologies for the slow reply. The cooktop I am looking at is the Miele KM 7200 FR with dimensions of 574mm W, 504mm D and 48mm H.
Looks like this should fit well. Not cheap but quality is remembered long after price is forgotten. If I ever get back to my boat I'll post some photos :)
Cheers
Bryce
SM #467
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Ladder
james Hosford
Anyone modify their back step to accept the stock ladder in a down position. Send like it would be easy enough to add a socket to the bumper and make it a lot easier to get in and out with gear on.
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Re: Bow-thruster repair at anchor
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hello Charlie,
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If I’m not mistaken, the A50 has a different BT. I believe it is made by Sleipner. Congratulations on your 50. Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, NZ
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Re: Bow-thruster repair at anchor
Thank you so much for this, Paul. I haven’t been very active on this group yet, but I was lucky to acquire SM#50 in the fall of 2017. I must admit the bowthruster has been quite a black box to me, and your video really helped to demystify it. That’s too bad about the new lid not matching up. Anyway, much appreciated. I hope someday I can add some useful content, too.
Charlie Kopp on SY Cloud Seven SM#50 Seattle WA USA
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Re: Water hoses in engine room
Hi Vic,
You note you've got a West Marine (WM) nearby and Kevin said he used Defenders. I just did a bunch of replacements - WM was $7.29 for the Scandvik ABA 316 SS SAE10. A local FL store (Boat Owners Warehouse) has it for 3.92 and Defender is $2.99. Buying many clamps makes Defender's shipping charge minor. Scandvik ABA is excellent. WM has Scandvik add a digit to the clamp number so they can call it a private brand and refuse to price match, saying it is not identical - it is. Double clamping has been highly recommended for thru-hulls (with long barbs). Not important for fresh water, sea water on pump discharges and engine coolant as you likely won't sink if those go. My project was the hot water tank. To clean just remove all the hoses and electric feed, then drain and take it out of the engine room. Pull the heating element and plumbing fittings. Then rinse thoroughly, shaking it around and upside down to slosh out any sludge. If you've got rusty sludge, rinse and slosh some more with a bunch of phosphoric acid to passivate. Reassemble with fresh teflon tape on the pipe threads and maybe put in a new heating element - every few years is good for those - and do check the wiring for any electric corrosion. Don't forget the clamps on the copper distribution pipes along the hull - mine were buried in sound insulation and rusting badly. Mine is a 16 year old IsoTemp that had a tiny leak at the hot outlet that dripped down and corroded the thermostats. I had patched a side wall leak with JB Weld 15 years ago and that was still good (JB Weld rocks!) but I peeled that off anyway and redid both with a new JB Weld "Marine" version for $8. Replacement generic button thermostats = $3. Replacement heating element $12. Total repair $23 vs new IsoTemp at about $700. I did put it on the "repair-again" list for 2035. Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Water hoses in engine room
James Alton
Vic, You have some good questions and it will be interesting to read the input. I can tell that for myself I try to only use the Shields exhaust hose below waterline and always double clamp those connections with the best 316 grade stainless clamps I can find. Sometimes you will have hose Barb's that are too short for the double clamps, try to change those out with longer ones if you can. The ABA brand hose clamp has been pretty good for me. Look for a hose clamp with a band that has the teeth for the gear rolled into in rather than being cut through it as the latter are more prone to breakage in my experience. The exhaust hose is not cheap but it's well constructed and has been very reliable. The hose also seems to resist damage from engine oil and can handle a lot more heat than a vinyl hose. For a hose run that is subjected to any suction or has anything more than a very gentle bend, the hose needs to a reinforcement to prevent collapse. In the case of the exhaust hose this will be a wire spiral that will require some decent side cutters to get through. If you pull a bit on the wire when cutting the sharp end of the wire will bury itself back into the hose. Best of luck with your project. James Maramu #220
On Aug 17, 2020 1:10 PM, Vic Fryzel <vic.fryzel@...> wrote:
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Re: Dolphin power 1 battery chargers
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
Thanks Stefan,
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Very helpful. I will look into Victron battery balancer. Kind regards
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Re: Dolphin power 1 battery chargers
Stefan Jeukendrup
Hi Ross, Appologies for the delay in answering, sailing to Datca now ;-) The manual is now on the forum under Files, Search, type "Dolphin"
* suggest to ask D. for a manual of your 100A charger, email contact@... * the solar MPPT settings are important as it does most of the time the final charge cutoff. The batteries and accessoires of your 24V stack must be exactly the same: * all battery cables must be in good condition e.g. isolation, crimping, oxidation * cables to the battery terminals must be of the same length and cross section. * suggest to install one or more Victron battery balancers, if not done already Hope this is helpfull, Stefan Jeukendrup sv Malaka Queen SM2k #348 ~to Turkey
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Re: Water hoses in engine room
Vic Fryzel
Thanks Kevin! This is extremely useful!! I'll be following all that advice. Thanks, - Vic
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Re: Dolphin power 1 battery chargers
Hi Bill,
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Totally agree with you about Varta. Bought mine in Croatia 2 years ago and they are nearly finished. Absolute rubbish. We are full time on the boat and have been very careful with our batteries. That’s why I am now changing to Lithium. The Zoom was interesting, thank you for organizing it. But, I want 24V 100Amh not 24V 50Amh, at least 600Amh bank. Also a single BMS not individual BMS on each battery. I will get the latest Victron Quattro 24/8000 which will run the entire electrical system once hooked up to the 230v control panel. Generator and any Shore Power hook up will just be used to charge the Lithium batteries. My 175amh engine alternator will have a controller installed to ensure it does not burn out. Currently installed Solar Panels give up to 30 Amp, looking to increase this slightly. New Solar Panels now available for the back arch now produce from top and bottom (sun reflected off water). Oliver on “Vela Nautica” has done his boat and has designed my system and is organizing all batteries and equipment, all items should be here in Martinique by October. I am fortunate that Oliver is at the same anchorage and stuck here with me for the next few months due to Covid-19 restrictions😎. Once we start I will post how we get this done. Very Best Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
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Re: Dolphin power 1 battery chargers
Ross and Donna, It is hard to say for sure. I had the same "non-changeable" Dolphin chargers on 2003 BeBe SM 387. In about 2007, I wanted to replace almost 4-year-old original Delco France Freedom batteries with FullRiver AGMs. I sent the FullRiver AGM charging parameters to Dolphin and asked them if I could install them. Their response was "Yes," which was obviously what I wanted to hear. I do not think it is that simple. I believe the more exact the charging parameters match the battery, the longer the life of the batteries. Those AGMs lasted about 4 years...not bad for the price I paid. For full-time cruising, regardless of the battery you buy (except for Lithium), my advice is hope for 3 years and if you get 4 years, consider yourself lucky. The worst set of batteries I bought was the set to replace the above AGMs. They were Varta Freedom batteries bought in Greece for 3,000 euros for 13 batteries. They began to fail in 6 months and were completely gone in 12 months. Varta did nothing! The measure of the experience was not the failure, but what Varta did. Of course, they suspected my use and chargers. That was a bad assumption on their part, even though I suspect that it is a valid assumption more times than not. The chargers were fine and I never allow the bank to go lower than 70%...you were wrong Varta and I hope many read this. Lastly, do not forget the 24-volt alternator. It charges the battery bank more than you realize and if your SM has the original, it does not have a smart regulator. Installing a smart regulator can probably do more to extend the life of your battery bank on a SM than anything else you do. Bill
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Re: Dolphin power 1 battery chargers
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
Thanks for sending this through Bill, it is very helpful.
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The 100amp charger that we have is the one in the first picture (JPG) that you forwarded. It does not physically have a switch. Does this mean that the charger can be used for Gel without doing anything? The 30 amp actually has a switch which was already set to Gel. Kind regards Ross and Donna
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Re: Dolphin power 1 battery chargers
Ross and Donna It depends. Dolphin changed those chargers 3 times. First was no switch, then an A/B switch, then a selector switch with 10 different settings. Here are a few things that may help:
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Re: Wifi extenders and the bonding system
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 05:13 PM, Scott SV Tengah wrote:
Mikrotik has a wifi extenderHi Scott, You made me curious about this Microtik product. Having worked with Cisco's Router OS, I'm not so easily scared off by this stuff, but this must be the worst documented piece of hardware ever! It's like having to read the whole phone book for one phone number. So kudos for you that you found a way to get it working. In contrast the Bitstorm Badboy is idiot proof. A build in webserver takes care of your config. It also does NOT support more then one client unless you buy the other toy from them (Called Unleashed), but as I have a proper router with potentially 4 WAN interfaces I don't care. It does require a bit of setup on the router play nicely with the LTE interface but that is fairly easy if you are into that stuff. It is a bit of a shame they stopped selling it, even with the inflated pricetag. They do not mention isolating the body but with their standard mounting hardware it will be isolated because of it. They do provide you with a SWR analysis of the supplied antenna. What surprised me, given your results is that the claimed receiver sensitivity of the Mikrotik is -93dB whereas the Badboy claims -96dB (a factor of 2). Transmitting 27dB vs. 36dB. From my experience the Badboy does connect quite OK most of the time but congestion makes the connection very often almost useless. In Curacao I had a relatively quiet network and could use Netflix without issues. That is something like 2-4 Mb/s if I recall correctly. I agree that the 5 MHz is mostly useless also because most public WiFi uses 2.4 only Regards, Arno
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Re: Wifi extenders and the bonding system
Scott SV Tengah
I think it really depends on your use case. We are rarely in marinas and in some of the places we've been, mobile data is quite expensive and generally not truly unlimited. In Hawaii, anchored nearly 1/2 mile offshore, we could easily get wifi from shore as long as our antenna was mounted high. During our 14 day covid quarantine time, we were pretty happy for that.
In any event, I was using a 2.4ghz Bullet model and then a 2.4ghz Alfa model. 2.4ghz generally travels further but is more prone to interference, as some have noted. For longer distance connections, it's usually the way to go. Mikrotik has a wifi extender product that does both 2.4ghz and 5ghz and can do it with one antenna (Groove 52 AC), but I would not recommend Mikrotik's products unless you have access to a very capable network engineer or you understand how to create interfaces in their configuration software for the wifi wan portion, the local lan portion, create virtual interfaces for each of the aforementioned wan/lan physical interfaces and then create a bridge that connects them. Oh and you have to setup DHCP servers and Clients manually. I had my VP engineering friend do it and I still probably couldn't repeat it. When I first got my Mikrotik Wap AC (internal wifi router), I couldn't even figure out how to connect to the device to set it up! But once setup, it's extremely powerful and reliable. Better than any router I have ever used. As a side note, I asked on Mikrotik's technical forums regarding case grounding. I was told that the Mikrotik Groove/metal, Ubiquiti Bullet and Alfa ALL have the antenna connector connected to DC- via the circuit board. That means the only way to prevent introducing DC- to your rigging is to either put the whole wifi extender device into a non-conductive housing and mount that or get the plastic version of those devices and mount it via the plastic case. Any other way and you violate Amel's floating ground bonding. And if you don't have a later model a54 or newer, your Amel Mass+/- tester light won't show this leak since prior to later A54s, the rigging wasn't connected to the bonding system and hence the Amel tester light. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Amel 54. Has anyone ever taken the electric diesel tank level meter/sensor out of the tank?
Thanks all for the replies. The code WEMA S2-1170F makes me think the sensor has a length of 1170mm which sounds about right for the given tank. A good tip about the poor power-supply to the sensor. I'm planning to hook it up to the EVC-C system to get some more use out of these Volvo electronics.
That should be fairly straightforward once I have the cable-harnass for this thing from VP. I'm curios to see if it will send the data across a NMEA2000 bridge. It also means I can remove this silly box in the locker where the diesel filler resides. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Amel 54. Has anyone ever taken the electric diesel tank level meter/sensor out of the tank?
I replaced the sensor on Adagio and could not find an exact match (I forget the model number, but it was indeed on a label on the sensor).
I wrote to Wema, they offered a couple of options and finally they custom built a 20 sensor unit that was reasonably priced and shipped quicky. I was extremely pleased with how they worked with me and how the replacement part for and works. Gary W. SM 209, Adagio Maryland, USA
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Re: Dolphin power 1 battery chargers
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
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On Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 2:30 pm, Stefan Jeukendrup <sjeukendrup@...> wrote:
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