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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries

greatketch@...
 

32 Volts is pretty typical for equalizing/desulphating flooded cells.  

Trojan recommends 32.4, and Rolls 31.6

Others manufacturers, like East Penn (Dekka) recommend constant current charging for desulphating an aging battery. Few marine battery chargers can do a constant current charge...

Lifeline is one of very few AGM makers that recommend a desulphating regime, at 30.5 volts for 8 hours.  I have seen that do a great job at refreshing our bank.

Someday, maybe, batteries will be simple.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Companionway Removal, another method.

eric freedman
 

Vladamir,

Did you receive the info and photos?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 2:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Companionway Removal, another method.

 

 

Eric,

 

Please email it to me as well. 

Sonsev52 at gmail com

 

Vladimir 

SM "LIFE is Good"

 

On Dec 11, 2017 16:54, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ryan,

What is your email address?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:31 PM


To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Companionway Removal, another method.

 

 

Duane, I will try to remember to digitize and upload the paper companionway plans I have from Amel.

 

Eric, I'd love to learn your technique for removing the companionway slide.  I'm sure I'm not the only one -- perhaps you could upload/send it to the list?

 

Thanks,

 

Ryan

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA

 

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:21 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

I am adding a piece of brown nylon above where the cross bar should stop.

That will align it every time.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Companionway Removal, another method.

 

 

You can access the weather stripping easily without fully removing the slide, just lift the slide up.  

 

There is a stop on the bottom, aft side of the slide that is easily removable, and once off,  the slide can rise--until it hits the dodger. More than high enough to easily access the weather stripping.

 

Just a random thought:  It would be nice if that stop was positioned to actually stop the slide at the correct point to lock in place with the cross bar.  Sigh... I think I just assigned myself another project.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, FL

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries

karkauai
 

My new Interstate hybrid batteries require 32 for desulfation.  That spec was very difficult to get, I had th contact the engineers at Interstate and even he had a hard time finding it.  That's higher than most batteries.  I needed a new charger anyway, but had to do some searching to find one that would do the job.  I steeled on a Victron Skylla-I 1+1 80Amp 24v charger.  So far a year later it's doing what it's supposed to do.


Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries

karkauai
 

Make sure all 24v equipment is off while you desulfate.  The high voltages will fry some electronics.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electric gas switch

eric freedman
 

Alex,

I changed my solenoid to a USA made solenoid.

It is very easy to get and the pipes fit up to it quite nicely.

I  think you are a few boats away from Kimberlite on the Ponton.

.Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:42 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] electric gas switch

 

 

Eric, I have two gas tanks in the compartment on the portside. Both are connected to that switch. One tank has European connection and uses buthan (available here in Martinique), the other has a U.S. connection and uses propane. Why are you asking? Is there anything important that I don't konw/should consider?

Regards, Alex

AMEL54#15, NO STRESS

 

 

On Saturday, December 9, 2017, 5:45:53 PM GMT-4, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

Alex,

Are you using propane or butane?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 12:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] electric gas switch

 

 

Dear Amelians,

I know there has been a discussion about the electric gas switch that seats out there in the compartment with the gas tanks. I rememer you talked about a German manufacturer and how hard it is to get it....

Unfortunatellly, I can't find that conversation anymore. Any information in regards to the vendor and the model AMEL is using (2005 AMEL54) is highly appreciated.

Best Regards,

Alex

SY NO STRESS

AMEL54#15


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

JOHN HAYES
 

As a safety measure we have installed a second bilge pump mounted above the first so that if the first stops working and we don’t immediately notice, the second will cut in and take over the job (hopefully). In fact we had that happen recently and the system works well.

Xmas greetings to one and all

 

John Hayes

Nga Waka

 

Wellington

New Zealand

 

From: on behalf of "Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners]"
Reply-To:
Date: Wednesday, 13 December 2017 at 9:28 AM
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

 

 

Hello Mark,

 

My plan was to buy a Rule 2000 and use it while I figured out how to fix the old one.  But, after meeting... (and sailing with) several Amel owners, I have decided to KEEP the Rule 2000 and carry a spare.  This is currently working well, but will clean up the plumbing.  The old Bilge pump would have cost several hundred dollars to fix, and still old technology.  Sometimes you have to change to the new technology because it's too expensive to keep up the old.

 

Ken

Aquarius 

SM2K 262

Currently in Panama (Shelter Island Marina)

 

On Monday, December 11, 2017 7:41 AM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

 

 

At one point, I think Amel had these in stock. Have you checked with Maud?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 11:05 AM
To: Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

 

 

Ken, what was your resolution on your bilge pump?

 

I've just had the same issue on SM 387 (must be that hot weather in Trinidad!)

 

Thanks and regards, Dan Carlson, sv BeBe

 

 

 

Any Help Will be appreciated!

 

Our bilge pump was running for what seemed a long time.  So I went down to see what was up.  I found the motor running, but not pumping.  The motor drive a plastic gear that broke.

 

Does anyone know where I can get this part, or maybe I have to get a new bilge pump.  :)

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Ken Powers

Aquarius SM2K #262

In Trinidad Crews Inn

 

 

 


Re: Bilge Pump Quit

Craig Briggs
 

Ken, 
Here's an old post on the topic about how to fix it.
"
You don't say "how" it is broken - ours "broke" in that the nylon gear was spinning freely about the inner drive disk (there are fine spline grooves that make these turn together). The gear was in one piece and the teeth were OK.

I was able to drill three small holes (1/16") spaced around the perimeter and insert steel pins (cut off small finishing nails) flush with the gear surface and into the inner plastic drive. Well, one of the pins is actually the drill bit that broke off, so I just left it." 

Cheers, Craig SN#68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailingaquarius@...> wrote :

Any Help Will be appreciated!

Our bilge pump was running for what seemed a long time.  So I went down to see what was up.  I found the motor running, but not pumping.  The motor drive a plastic gear that broke.

Does anyone know where I can get this part, or maybe I have to get a new bilge pump.  :)

Thanks in advance,

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K #262
In Trinidad Crews Inn



 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

Mark Erdos
 

My 2 cents: My bilge pump has lasted about 17 years now. I don’t consider it old technology, but old faithful. IMHO, you get what you pay for.

 

I carry a rebuild kit including the plastic wheel. I also have a complete spare (new).

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

 

 

Hello Mark,

 

My plan was to buy a Rule 2000 and use it while I figured out how to fix the old one.  But, after meeting... (and sailing with) several Amel owners, I have decided to KEEP the Rule 2000 and carry a spare.  This is currently working well, but will clean up the plumbing.  The old Bilge pump would have cost several hundred dollars to fix, and still old technology.  Sometimes you have to change to the new technology because it's too expensive to keep up the old.

 

Ken

Aquarius 

SM2K 262

Currently in Panama (Shelter Island Marina)

 

On Monday, December 11, 2017 7:41 AM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

 

 

At one point, I think Amel had these in stock. Have you checked with Maud?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 11:05 AM
To: Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

 

 

Ken, what was your resolution on your bilge pump?

 

I've just had the same issue on SM 387 (must be that hot weather in Trinidad!)

 

Thanks and regards, Dan Carlson, sv BeBe

 

 

 

Any Help Will be appreciated!

 

Our bilge pump was running for what seemed a long time.  So I went down to see what was up.  I found the motor running, but not pumping.  The motor drive a plastic gear that broke.

 

Does anyone know where I can get this part, or maybe I have to get a new bilge pump.  :)

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Ken Powers

Aquarius SM2K #262

In Trinidad Crews Inn

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

James Studdart
 

Hi,
We bought one for around 130 euro from Amel about 6 months ago. It is expensive for what it is. I can’t imagine a replacement pump that works for a decade and a half is cheap either! It was fairly easy to replace once we had the part.

Cheers,
James.
SV SeaBean
SM#344

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:41 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

At one point, I think Amel had these in stock. Have you checked with Maud?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 11:05 AM
To: Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

 

 

Ken, what was your resolution on your bilge pump?

 

I've just had the same issue on SM 387 (must be that hot weather in Trinidad!)

 

Thanks and regards, Dan Carlson, sv BeBe

 

 

 

Any Help Will be appreciated!

 

Our bilge pump was running for what seemed a long time.  So I went down to see what was up.  I found the motor running, but not pumping.  The motor drive a plastic gear that broke.

 

Does anyone know where I can get this part, or maybe I have to get a new bilge pump.  :)

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Ken Powers

Aquarius SM2K #262

In Trinidad Crews Inn

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit

Ken Powers <sailingaquarius@...>
 

Hello Mark,

My plan was to buy a Rule 2000 and use it while I figured out how to fix the old one.  But, after meeting... (and sailing with) several Amel owners, I have decided to KEEP the Rule 2000 and carry a spare.  This is currently working well, but will clean up the plumbing.  The old Bilge pump would have cost several hundred dollars to fix, and still old technology.  Sometimes you have to change to the new technology because it's too expensive to keep up the old.

Ken
Aquarius 
SM2K 262
Currently in Panama (Shelter Island Marina)


On Monday, December 11, 2017 7:41 AM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
At one point, I think Amel had these in stock. Have you checked with Maud?
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Martinique
www.creampuff.us
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 11:05 AM
To: Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Quit
 
 
Ken, what was your resolution on your bilge pump?
 
I've just had the same issue on SM 387 (must be that hot weather in Trinidad!)
 
Thanks and regards, Dan Carlson, sv BeBe
 
 
 
Any Help Will be appreciated!
 
Our bilge pump was running for what seemed a long time.  So I went down to see what was up.  I found the motor running, but not pumping.  The motor drive a plastic gear that broke.
 
Does anyone know where I can get this part, or maybe I have to get a new bilge pump.  :)
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K #262
In Trinidad Crews Inn
 
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Companionway Removal, another method.

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Eric,

Please email it to me as well. 
Sonsev52 at gmail com

Vladimir 
SM "LIFE is Good"

On Dec 11, 2017 16:54, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ryan,

What is your email address?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:31 PM


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Companionway Removal, another method.

 

 

Duane, I will try to remember to digitize and upload the paper companionway plans I have from Amel.

 

Eric, I'd love to learn your technique for removing the companionway slide.  I'm sure I'm not the only one -- perhaps you could upload/send it to the list?

 

Thanks,

 

Ryan

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA

 

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:21 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Bill,

I am adding a piece of brown nylon above where the cross bar should stop.

That will align it every time.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Companionway Removal, another method.

 

 

You can access the weather stripping easily without fully removing the slide, just lift the slide up.  

 

There is a stop on the bottom, aft side of the slide that is easily removable, and once off,  the slide can rise--until it hits the dodger. More than high enough to easily access the weather stripping.

 

Just a random thought:  It would be nice if that stop was positioned to actually stop the slide at the correct point to lock in place with the cross bar.  Sigh... I think I just assigned myself another project.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, FL

 



Re: rigg of santorin when should it be changed?

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Kasper,

What is the name of the rigger who did the survey on your Santorin's rig in Sicily (or the boatyard /marina)?

Kind regards,

Willem Kroes

SM # 351 "Kavanga"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viewing Amel 54 - what to look for?

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Scott;
 
I truly am not aware of anything that I would consider Amel specific problem areas. Every boat has design considerations that appeal to some and not to others. Other than design related issues, the rest are maintenance related. It is an extremely well thought out vessel that we will enjoy for years or decades to come and will probably never buy another vessel. That being said, the reliability of this or any vessel depends on the level of care.
 
Good luck with your search.
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of cpp_berkeley
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viewing Amel 54 - what to look for?

 

Apologies, I'm Scott.


Thanks for the recommendation on the surveyor. The boat I'm looking at is in France, so I'll reach out to Olivier and mention that you sent me his way. :)

I'm visiting her without the broker/surveyor for the first look to determine whether to move forward with the survey. Your tips are helpful and it'd be great if you (and others) could note any Amel specific problem areas.

I understand the Volvo D3-110 can cause headaches if bad fuel is encountered. I also understand they revised the engine to take care of these problems, but unsure when those revisions were made?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viewing Amel 54 - what to look for?

Redouan <red1assar@...>
 

Olivier IS the surveyor to contact if you are serious about buying an Amel anywhere near Europe.  He came to Portugal to support me after months of research, and it was a bit like getting the famous 4 day precious handover that the new owners used to get when buying new at the yard.  Olivier is very professional and his recommendations are worth every penny for the future owner. I would definitely use his services again... Unfortunately after my happy purchase this Autumn I expect to never want or find a replacement for my lovely Super Maramu Stella.

Redouan
SM Stella ex Zeerob
Portimao, Portugal.

On 12 Dec 2017, at 19:20, cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Apologies, I'm Scott.


Thanks for the recommendation on the surveyor. The boat I'm looking at is in France, so I'll reach out to Olivier and mention that you sent me his way. :)

I'm visiting her without the broker/surveyor for the first look to determine whether to move forward with the survey. Your tips are helpful and it'd be great if you (and others) could note any Amel specific problem areas.

I understand the Volvo D3-110 can cause headaches if bad fuel is encountered. I also understand they revised the engine to take care of these problems, but unsure when those revisions were made?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electric gas switch

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Eric, I have two gas tanks in the compartment on the portside. Both are connected to that switch. One tank has European connection and uses buthan (available here in Martinique), the other has a U.S. connection and uses propane. Why are you asking? Is there anything important that I don't konw/should consider?
Regards, Alex
AMEL54#15, NO STRESS


On Saturday, December 9, 2017, 5:45:53 PM GMT-4, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Alex,

Are you using propane or butane?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 12:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] electric gas switch

 

 

Dear Amelians,

I know there has been a discussion about the electric gas switch that seats out there in the compartment with the gas tanks. I rememer you talked about a German manufacturer and how hard it is to get it....

Unfortunatellly, I can't find that conversation anymore. Any information in regards to the vendor and the model AMEL is using (2005 AMEL54) is highly appreciated.

Best Regards,

Alex

SY NO STRESS

AMEL54#15


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Companionway well drain

James Alton
 

Ryan,

   This may or many not help you since my boat is a 1987 Maramu.  I noticed that the water catchment pan under the main slider of my boat was holding water and the owner of another Maramu had told me that he had located drain holes in his so I went in the investigate.  I found two approx. 5/16” diameter holes at the very outboard ends of the drain pan that were drilled through the engine room bulkhead.  I am not sure if the holes are sealed in the bulkhead so I plan to bond in two tiny fibreglass tubes with epoxy to keep water from soaking into the wood of the bulkhead while retaining the drainage.   The holes were drilled right at the bottom of the pan where it would have been almost impossible to drill once the pan had been installed so I feel that the holes must be original.  Both holes on my boat were completely blocked from years of dirt and debris, once I cleaned out  the holes out, I can now wash the cockpit without any concerns of water overflowing the catchment pan.  In my opinion the drain holes are a very good idea because if fresh water is allowed to sit for a long period in the catchment pan rot could occur in the pan and the engine room bulkhead over time.  So yes the bulkhead is meant to be watertight but in reality the flow rate through 2- 5/16” holes is not going to be much given the head so I think that Amel made a good call in adding these holes.  One could carry some tiny wooden or rubber plugs for these holes if concerned about the watertight integrity of the bulkhead but a rotten bulkhead is likely a lot less watertight than the drain holes....  Just my 2 cents, I know opinions may vary as they should.

Best,

James

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi Joel,
Do you have a photo of what the well drain looks like?  I had my well fill up a month or so ago and it did not drain on its own.  Some time later, I found a little black tube above the sump in the engine room that appears to be blocked... it's in about the right place to be the well drain, but I haven't investigated in detail or tried to clean it out.  I was led to believe from this list that was no drain on the SM, which stunned me because it's an obvious point of failure in the design... if it actually exists that would make a lot more sense!

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:44 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Everyone. I have not checked each and every one of the hundreds of Amel Super Maramus I have been aboard for a drain from the companionway well for the vertical door. However, I know this item was on the Amel new construction checklist and had to be signed off on by the person who installed it and his supervisor. 

 

I have seen more than one case where the drain tube was installed and then covered over by the foam insulation that was installed in the engine room which then encouraged the drain to become clogged as it could not flow properly.

 

Strategically investigate the area where the drain should be and I am all but sure you will find a covered and plugged drain. All but sure…so let us know what you DON’T find, please.  

 

Have fun with your Amel, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Companionway well drain

amelforme
 

Hi Ryan. Usually the drain is a metal/bronze??? pipe of small diameter that is often/usually connected to a hose that drains to the sump. Sounds like you are on the right track. Let us know…

 

Joel

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Companionway well drain

 

 

Hi Joel,

Do you have a photo of what the well drain looks like?  I had my well fill up a month or so ago and it did not drain on its own.  Some time later, I found a little black tube above the sump in the engine room that appears to be blocked... it's in about the right place to be the well drain, but I haven't investigated in detail or tried to clean it out.  I was led to believe from this list that was no drain on the SM, which stunned me because it's an obvious point of failure in the design... if it actually exists that would make a lot more sense!

 

Thanks,

Ryan

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA

 

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:44 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Everyone. I have not checked each and every one of the hundreds of Amel Super Maramus I have been aboard for a drain from the companionway well for the vertical door. However, I know this item was on the Amel new construction checklist and had to be signed off on by the person who installed it and his supervisor.

 

I have seen more than one case where the drain tube was installed and then covered over by the foam insulation that was installed in the engine room which then encouraged the drain to become clogged as it could not flow properly.

 

Strategically investigate the area where the drain should be and I am all but sure you will find a covered and plugged drain. All but sure…so let us know what you DON’T find, please.  

 

Have fun with your Amel, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viewing Amel 54 - what to look for?

cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...>
 

Apologies, I'm Scott.

Thanks for the recommendation on the surveyor. The boat I'm looking at is in France, so I'll reach out to Olivier and mention that you sent me his way. :)

I'm visiting her without the broker/surveyor for the first look to determine whether to move forward with the survey. Your tips are helpful and it'd be great if you (and others) could note any Amel specific problem areas.

I understand the Volvo D3-110 can cause headaches if bad fuel is encountered. I also understand they revised the engine to take care of these problems, but unsure when those revisions were made?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viewing Amel 54 - what to look for?

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello and welcome to the group;
 
Can you please let us know your name so we can address you properly.
 
There are many unique features to the Amels that make it imperative that you hire an Amel knowledgeable surveyor. I can only share our own personal experience with Olivier Beauté of Atlantic Yacht survey in La Rochelle France. Olivier is regarded as the most knowledgeable person with Amels having been involved with the company and later at his own company for decades. He spent a full 3 days with us not only surveying the entire vessel and all the areas that may indicate problems, we learned a significant amount about the boat in the process.
 
My recommendation would be to inspect the vessel you are considering and look for how the vessel is maintained in general. Look at the engine room and see how clean everything has been maintained. Look for areas of rust and corrosion. A well maintained vessel should look very close to new. Amels are extremely dry vessels and there should not be too many signs of corrosion. Look at all the interior wood finishes. Again they should look almost factory new. The wood finishes on these vessels are impeccable and with proper care should look excellent for years.
 
In our inspections, if we saw signs of neglect, we would walk away. Once satisfied with your inspection, hire your surveyor of choice. If we were to do it again, we would once again fly Olivier out to wherever the vessel happened to be.
 
Good luck with your search. We believe her to be the perfect vessel.
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Viewing Amel 54 - what to look for?

 

Hi everyone - 


New member here. I'm looking at an Amel 54 soon and while I'll have a surveyor look at the boat prior to purchase, I'll take a look at it on my own first. 


This group is one of the reasons, among many, that I'm considering an Amel. The collective knowledge and camaraderie here is truly amazing. 


What would you, as Amel owners, suggest that I look for when viewing the 54? What are common problem areas? 


Thanks!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Companionway well drain

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Joel,
Do you have a photo of what the well drain looks like?  I had my well fill up a month or so ago and it did not drain on its own.  Some time later, I found a little black tube above the sump in the engine room that appears to be blocked... it's in about the right place to be the well drain, but I haven't investigated in detail or tried to clean it out.  I was led to believe from this list that was no drain on the SM, which stunned me because it's an obvious point of failure in the design... if it actually exists that would make a lot more sense!

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:44 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Everyone. I have not checked each and every one of the hundreds of Amel Super Maramus I have been aboard for a drain from the companionway well for the vertical door. However, I know this item was on the Amel new construction checklist and had to be signed off on by the person who installed it and his supervisor.

 

I have seen more than one case where the drain tube was installed and then covered over by the foam insulation that was installed in the engine room which then encouraged the drain to become clogged as it could not flow properly.

 

Strategically investigate the area where the drain should be and I am all but sure you will find a covered and plugged drain. All but sure…so let us know what you DON’T find, please.  

 

Have fun with your Amel, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

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