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Sailor Ted on an Amel SM 2000 / Crossing with kids

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Posted from the world cruising club. Atlantic Crossing with kids on an Amel Super Maramu 2000


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Oliver 

SV JoEmi

SM 2000




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stabilizing bar for Passarell

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

maciej@...
 

You're invited to 'Emek Marin sucks!' FB group.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

maciej@...
 

Everybody's invited! Emek Marin sucks! FB group.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Furling Motor Brush Dimensions

Hajo Hille
 

Hi Ian,

This is what they sold to me when I ordered new brushes for my Leroy Somers motor for the boom sleigh, which obviously is the same as for the Genua furling motor.

Kind regards

Hajo
SM 150 Serafine

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 21.10.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi Hajo,

your dimensions seem quite different to mine and perhaps I should have said the mainsail furling motor. The sides of my brushes are 8mm x 10mm so I guess we are talking about different motors. Maybe Amel changed the motor during the evolution of the SM?

If you are talking about the genoa furling motor then I shall get some spares from Josef Mack as I am sure that one day soon I will need them.

Thank you so much for your help.

Regards

Ian SM2K 414 Crusader (2003) Larnaca.



On 18/10/2017 18:20, Amw amw08@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 
Hi Ian,
The brushes I bought have the dimension of 16x6x22 mm.
I bought it at Josef Mack GmbH & Co.Kg , Gießener Straße 49, 3505 Grünberg, Germany
Tel. 0049 6401 2106 09-0, Fax 0049 6401 4910 or info at mack-kohlebuersten.de.

Hope this helps

Hajo
Serafine SM 150
Carloforte, San Pietro



Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 18.10.2017 um 18:43 schrieb Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi,

can anyone please tell me the LENGTH of the carbon brushes for the Leroy
furling motor when they are new? I am trying to source spare brushes
locally or on eBay but do not have a new brush left to measure.
Obviously I can measure the side dimensions from my worn ones. If
possible can you please state the length in millimeters.

Incidentally, when the motor starts to play up I found that swapping the
top and bottom brushes over the best way of restoring normal operations.
Cleaning the brush surfaces and the commutator only worked for one or
two cycles whereas swapping the brushes seemed to fix the problem more
permanently.

With thanks

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader Larnaca Cyprus





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stabilizing bar for Passarell

Mark Erdos
 

Eric,

 

Did you get these form someone. If not, I can send you the pics and specs. (I have internet again – yay).

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stabilizing bar for Passarell

 

 

There is a bar that was on my Passarell that connected to the boat that prevented the passarell from swinging from port to starboard.

Would someone send me a photo of it mounted and its lengths. Mine has gone to the never land.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

Kimbertoteatoptonlinedotnet


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

eric freedman
 

Yes That’s the one.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

 

 

It's actually in the Photos section:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/138287824

 

Mark

SM #440 SV Cara

Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

eric freedman
 

Sorry,

I do not remember.

I made mine out of thick copper about 1/8 inch and it is still great.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:47 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

 

 

I searched the files section for “bonding strap” without luck, to get the dimensions where to bend the metal and the size hole required.  Do you know where the file is?

 

Thanks

Eamonn

Travel Bug SM 151

 


To Moderator

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi,

Im unable to sign in to the group. I am getting the emails but cannot get in to the files etc. Happened also a few months ago. I think it is something to do with my email server changing its provider. Been a member for 8 years or so,

Danny'

SM 299 Ocean Pearl


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a boat in transit between La Rochelle and the Canaries

Oliver Buhlert
 

Hello,

maybe you try the website of the ARC https://www.worldcruising.com , Atlantic Rally for Cruisers. A lot of sailing boats are still on the way to the Canaries, Gran Canaria to take part of it. Maybe some of them start from La Rochelle. Even when they are in Portugal or Spain it is much easier to send the spares  from France to Portugal.   

I can confirm, that with regular couriers it takes sometimes weeks to get the spares. You can take an agent in the Canaries what makes it faster. I got by myself spares from Amel to deliver to the Canaries they arrived in time because I used an expensive agent of the ARC. 

Good luck!

Oliver
SV JoEmi
SM 2000

Am 25.10.2017 um 16:36 schrieb SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:


Hi all,

We are looking for a boat that would travel from La Rochelle to the Madeira or the Canaries Islands in the short term to carry some spares for us. We have been told regular courriers are troublesome and unreliable in the Canaries. 

We know it is late in the season already but if you know of anyone, or have any advice, please let us know.


Fair winds,

Thanks 

Thomas & Soraya
Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Porto Santo, Madeira, Portugal



Looking for a boat in transit between La Rochelle and the Canaries

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

We are looking for a boat that would travel from La Rochelle to the Madeira or the Canaries Islands in the short term to carry some spares for us. We have been told regular courriers are troublesome and unreliable in the Canaries. 

We know it is late in the season already but if you know of anyone, or have any advice, please let us know.


Fair winds,

Thanks 

Thomas & Soraya
Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Porto Santo, Madeira, Portugal


Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

mfmcgovern@...
 

It's actually in the Photos section:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/138287824

Mark
SM #440 SV Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

antomajori@...
 

A similar thing happened to me wirth Emek.

I do not understand how to continue to represent EMEL: I bought from them an SM trusting that they were Amel ....


Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

qmvwv3fna4dth3r32bdwtz3bpy7meopg2s2xlnuq@...
 

I did the same work according the very good description of Bill this summer. With the right tools easy but not nice work. I ordered the copper at onlinemetals.com in the US. Just to let you know what we payed it was 95$. Maybe you get it cheaper in Europe.
The copper we used is much thicker than the original one of Amel. Our once was almost gone it had just a thin connection. The previous owner emptied the bilge always when he left the boat (he just used it for vacation) maybe  you can prolong the lifetime of the copper bar by doing this, but with a new thicker copper bar I assume that the lifetime of the bar is automatically much longer.
Good luck.

Oliver
SV JoEmi
SM 2000


Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

eamonn.washington@...
 

I searched the files section for “bonding strap” without luck, to get the dimensions where to bend the metal and the size hole required.  Do you know where the file is?

Thanks
Eamonn
Travel Bug SM 151


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

maciej@...
 

Never, ever use Emek for ANY work or even to broker any sale or purchase.

Here is my sad story.

In November 2016 I purchased an Amel SM 53 brokered by Emek. At the same time Emek sold my previous vessel.

While still at Gocek and then shortly thereafter, together we compiled a list of a basic refit works. The estimate was for about $46K. At this point all started unraveling. First of all Mr. Cakir refused to get me my proceeds for the sale of my old boat under the pretenses of the 'down payment' for this refit. So for $46K of estimated work he defrauded me of $56. When I tried to negotiate a reasonable down payment, proposing on my side 20% of his estimate and giving him a chance to come with some counteroffer he simply did not even tried to negotiate anything in good faith.

Being extremely frustrated by this situation and not getting any report on the progress of works, I contracted a captain to get my vessel out of hand of Emek and get it delivered to a place of my choosing. Mr. Cakir decided to keep both my vessel and my money hostage by flatly refusing to release her to anybody but me personally. Both the way Mr. Cakir handled my money and my vessel is such an unprincipled behavior unbecoming of a boat broker's and any honest person for that matter.

When I eventually arrived at Gocek in June 2017 I founded out that of the estimate list only part of work was done however the invoice grew from $46 to $53K!! It included $6,200 for keeping my vessel in a boatyard for several weeks just for anitfouling.

Just please do not question my intelligence while you read the rest of this horror story.

At this point instead of taking my boat and getting as far as possible from Emek and Mr. Cakir I let myself get convinced, and yes, he can be convincing and quite charming, to get even more work performed by Emek on my boat. We agreed on the cost of $87K and the deadline of August 10, 2017. While the boat was hauled out again on July 17, my wife and I were supposed to spend about 3 weeks at the local hotel after which time the vessel would be launched and ready for sea trials to straighten up all kinks with completion day of August 10.

So now we're October 24, 2017 - we had to stay at the hotel 3 months so far instead of promised 3 weeks, at the cost close to 6,000 euros.

Out of the estimated $87K of repair cost so far I've provided Emek with $57K yet still after those 3 months and substantial down payment Mr. Cakir did not purchased essential supplies needed for this refit and as the result most of the work are still not completed.

Furthermore just today Mr. Cakir tried to extort more money from me by implying that work will not be completed if I don’t cough up more funds. Talking about impudence! No effort to patch up this debacle that he’s completely responsible for.

So here I am, after spending close to $300,000, including the purchase, spending the whole summer at a hotel, my boat is stuck at a local boatyard, not sea worthy by far, kept hostage by Mr. Cakir.

Just today I hired a local lawyer and we’re staring a process of recovering my boat and money from Emek and Mr. Cakir.

This company and its owner are simply dishonest fraudsters with a thorough lack of honor end decency.


Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

eamonn.washington@...
 

Fantastic info, I’ll get to work.

Thanks
Eamonn
Travel Bug SM 151


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

Craig Briggs
 

Hey Danny,
Fantastic solutions for we "CARBS" (Cheap Ass Rag Baggers) ! Love it!
Cheers,
Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <simms@...> wrote :

Hi,

I was maintaining my boat in remote locations (definition of long distance cruising) and needed to do this job. I found a meter long (39 inch) piece of D12 reinforcing rod on the side of the road. I ground a square on one end to fit the socket and used a stilson pipe wrench on the other. Saved buying 3 12 inch extensions which weren't available there anyway. If copper bar is not available copper tube as used (or used to be) in plumbing, flattened at each end does the job.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 25 October 2017 at 08:59 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good afternoon Eamonn,

Something I did 3 years ago but haven’t illustrated yet.
First you need the copper bar. Bill R. (s/v BeBe) provided the dimensions.
47 1/2” long, 2” width and 1/8” thick. It is bent in 3 places.
I followed his instructions: completely emptied then cleaned the bilge (not a fun job) as you will need to remove the float, etc. take the opportunity to clean it perfectly.
It is hold at the bottom by a 30 mm socket and you will need three 12” extensions to reach it.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Tue, 10/24/17, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 2:21 PM


 









Today I noticed that the copper bar in the grey
water tank is completely corroded away at the bottom.
 Assuming I get a replacement bar or strap (5mm thick, how
long?), how is it mechanically connected to the keel bolt?
 Is there a special tool or some trick to do this?  I
can’t even see the keel bolt due to the murky water.  I
am in the process of cleaning it.
RegardsEamonn
WashingtonTravel Bug SM 151On the hard
in Cleopatra Marina, Greece.




 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi,

I was maintaining my boat in remote locations (definition of long distance cruising) and needed to do this job. I found a meter long (39 inch) piece of D12 reinforcing rod on the side of the road. I ground a square on one end to fit the socket and used a stilson pipe wrench on the other. Saved buying 3 12 inch extensions which weren't available there anyway. If copper bar is not available copper tube as used (or used to be) in plumbing, flattened at each end does the job.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 25 October 2017 at 08:59 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good afternoon Eamonn,

Something I did 3 years ago but haven’t illustrated yet.
First you need the copper bar. Bill R. (s/v BeBe) provided the dimensions.
47 1/2” long, 2” width and 1/8” thick. It is bent in 3 places.
I followed his instructions: completely emptied then cleaned the bilge (not a fun job) as you will need to remove the float, etc. take the opportunity to clean it perfectly.
It is hold at the bottom by a 30 mm socket and you will need three 12” extensions to reach it.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 10/24/17, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Bonding strap connection to the keel - stainless steel or copper
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 2:21 PM


 









Today I noticed that the copper bar in the grey
water tank is completely corroded away at the bottom.
 Assuming I get a replacement bar or strap (5mm thick, how
long?), how is it mechanically connected to the keel bolt?
 Is there a special tool or some trick to do this?  I
can’t even see the keel bolt due to the murky water.  I
am in the process of cleaning it.
RegardsEamonn
WashingtonTravel Bug SM 151On the hard
in Cleopatra Marina, Greece.