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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

eric freedman
 

Alan,

You should try the stuff, it is really amazing.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

 

 

Thanks Eric...

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Eric...
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

eric freedman
 

Alan,

What they are saying is that the joint should be completed before the Duralac dries. In other words,

completely tighten down whatever you are bolting otherwise the exposed Duralac will harden and prevent further tightening. You have about 30-45 minutes to complete bolting an item depending on temperature.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 6:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

 

 

Each to his own I guess, but in that pdf link it says :

 

 It is important that the joint should be closed while Duralac is still tacky to ensure that it will flow sufficiently under pressure to close the gaps in the joint. It will harden somewhat if a thin film is left exposed to the atmosphere for a long period and this will prevent the making of a close joint.

 

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: Is a Monohull (AMEL) the right choice?

Alan Leslie
 

Porter, I don't think you can wrong with a good Amel.
Catamarans by the time they are loaded down with all the cruising stuff are no faster than monohulls.
Sure they don't heel, but they slam, skid and judder down wave faces - ask anyone who has crossed an ocean on a cruising catamaran.
In any cruising port when getting ready to leave, the cat owners are very concerned about significant wave heights and wind direction - they don't go to windward at all well.
If all you want to do is sail around the islands, a cat could be ideal, but if you are serious about crossing oceans safely, I'd be thinking twice about it.
Ultimately YOU have to decide what suits you, your plans and to be comfortable with that decision.
I am very comfortable with my decision to chose Amel. I now cannot imagine owning any other boat!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Is a Monohull (AMEL) the right choice?

John Clark
 

Porter,
No Amel has ever sunk on the high seas.   The redundancy of critical systems and true reliability sold me. Porter I give you my word that any Amel is better that a Cat.  If all you want to do is sail to the Bahamas then buy a Cat.

I know you are smart.......   ;)


Re: Is a Monohull (AMEL) the right choice?

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello porter;

The monohull vs cat discussion is a lengthy one that has been well argued on both sides of the fence on several forums and online articles.

In regards to The AMEL brand and specifically AMEL 54, which we have owned and sailed for the past 2-1:2 years, we are unconditionally sold on her and would not change her for yachts double her size or cost. I think you will find that whoever owns an AMEL is fiercely loyal to the brand, for very valid and time proven reasons, in our opinion.

It is a well proven design with over 3000 of the same design concepts that have travelled all the worlds oceans for over 30 years. This plus many many other design considerations is what made us select an AMEL among a list of other well known reputable brands.

In our opinion you cannot go wrong with an AMEL. However I think you need to resolve the monohull vs CAT for your purposes.

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
AMEL 54 #099
B&B Kokomo


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is a Monohull (AMEL) the right choice?

eric freedman
 

Porter,

Having been through a hurricane in my 53 I would not buy anything but an AMEL.

Cats are great in my opinion for cruising around the islands etc., but for blue water only an Amel.

Does the cat you are looking at have an escape hatch in the cabin sole?

Think about it !

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 9:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is a Monohull (AMEL) the right choice?

 

 

Let me start by again thanking you for all your help along the way.

 

I’d set to purchasing an AMEL54  and am quite committed, researched the brand and boat for a long time now.  

 

Recently a friend and long time sailor also professional captain of a 200’ private yacht commented after i showed him the AMEL 54:

 

Having lived on my own sailboat and worked for years on other owners sailboats, I highly recommend you looking into a Catamaran!  Like the one the listing broker has like a Lagoon 500!

You get twice the space, 2 engines, they are faster and have a shallow draft for anchoring in many places you will not get into with a mono-hull.  The salon and aft outside seating area are very roomy so you don't get cramped.  Mono-hull's you are always sleeping at a angle and cooking too.  I would never run one again just because of not being able to relax more like you can with a Cat hull.  The only down-side is that you usually need to be docked on the end or T-head of the marinas because of how much wider their beam is.    The best part of sailing is getting to the next destination and relaxing and enjoying the freedom of where you are.  The Cat-hull lets you stretch-out and really enjoy where you are with much more inside and outside space.  

If you have not tried one, I think you should go charter for 2-3 days a Catamaran in the BVI's then a Mono-hull and see what you think!  

You are about to spend a-lot of money and do a major life change.  I just don't want you to jump into it without trying all the options available. I have spent years and thousands of miles on Mono-hull sailboats and would never do it again with the great Catamaran options that are out there. 

 

I am about to pull the trigger, am I making the right choice?

I was pretty certain i was until the above response.

 

 

Could you lend me your thoughts?

 

Were a family of four with plans for an around the world cruise for at least 4 years.  

Am i making a mistake?  I am the kind of person who once he makes a decision then makes certain it's the right one and goes with it.  

 

Its very much appreciated.

 

Thank you again Porter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Is a Monohull (AMEL) the right choice?

W Porter McRoberts <portermcroberts@...>
 

Let me start by again thanking you for all your help along the way.

I’d set to purchasing an AMEL54  and am quite committed, researched the brand and boat for a long time now.  

Recently a friend and long time sailor also professional captain of a 200’ private yacht commented after i showed him the AMEL 54:

Having lived on my own sailboat and worked for years on other owners sailboats, I highly recommend you looking into a Catamaran!  Like the one the listing broker has like a Lagoon 500!
You get twice the space, 2 engines, they are faster and have a shallow draft for anchoring in many places you will not get into with a mono-hull.  The salon and aft outside seating area are very roomy so you don't get cramped.  Mono-hull's you are always sleeping at a angle and cooking too.  I would never run one again just because of not being able to relax more like you can with a Cat hull.  The only down-side is that you usually need to be docked on the end or T-head of the marinas because of how much wider their beam is.    The best part of sailing is getting to the next destination and relaxing and enjoying the freedom of where you are.  The Cat-hull lets you stretch-out and really enjoy where you are with much more inside and outside space.  
If you have not tried one, I think you should go charter for 2-3 days a Catamaran in the BVI's then a Mono-hull and see what you think!  
You are about to spend a-lot of money and do a major life change.  I just don't want you to jump into it without trying all the options available. I have spent years and thousands of miles on Mono-hull sailboats and would never do it again with the great Catamaran options that are out there. 

I am about to pull the trigger, am I making the right choice?
I was pretty certain i was until the above response.


Could you lend me your thoughts?

Were a family of four with plans for an around the world cruise for at least 4 years.  
Am i making a mistake?  I am the kind of person who once he makes a decision then makes certain it's the right one and goes with it.  

Its very much appreciated.

Thank you again Porter















Re: H&G Hydra 330 reset

Peter Jaeger
 

Hi Ivon
Sorry, I am not often on this forum.
I have a Hydra 330 manual, interessted in a copy? You will find a reset description.
Unfortunately I am not on the boat for another 2 month
Peter
SY Wilson, SM #003


Re: Amel surveyors in the Caribbean

John Clark
 

Hi Jacob,    Bill recommended Dave Huffman to me and he was very good.  He did the survey for my Super Maramu in December.  I think he is about to do an Amel survey in Guadeloupe.   Thorough and easy to work with.


Good luck with your purchase!

John Clark
Vent de Soleil SM 037
Le Marin, Martinique
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

Alan Leslie
 

Each to his own I guess, but in that pdf link it says :

 It is important that the joint should be closed while Duralac is still tacky to ensure that it will flow sufficiently under pressure to close the gaps in the joint. It will harden somewhat if a thin film is left exposed to the atmosphere for a long period and this will prevent the making of a close joint.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigomatic refrigerator

karkauai
 

I had the same problem with one of my fridge/freezer boxes last year.  The tech cleaned the lines three times, and each time it blocked up again after a week or less.  He thought it was a small pinhole in the compressor letting air in which caused the blockage.  Finally got a whole new unit.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

eric freedman
 

I have had no problems with Duralac in the last 35 years and the bolts are always tight when I remove them, sometimes after 5 years. I did a complete hull up restoration on my last boat and everything is still ok after

19 years. Duralac is meant to be air dried.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

http://www.llewellyn-ryland.co.uk/downloads/duralac.pdf

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 3:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

 

 

Duralac is really an anticorrosive paste designed to prevent galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals (as is Tef Gel). If Duralac is allowed to harden in the atmosphere it doesn't fill the gaps between the metals which reduces its anticorrosive capapbilities.

I use Loctite on all screws/bolts that I can't afford to have come loose and I've never had any problem with it in saltwater. The bolts are always difficult to remove, which is a good sign.

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigomatic refrigerator

Peter Buckley
 

Hi all,
I have had an intermittent problem with our Frigoboat fridge since purchasing our yacht, Mango #70, and have finally replaced the fridge with a new fridge / freezer combination. The problem was a small amount of water in the system that would freeze and block the refrigerant from moving around the system. 
It was expensive to replace and now not original, but it is great to have a reliable fridge again.
Kindest Regards
Peter

“Gradiva" 
Amel Mango #70
Raymond Island 
Australia 

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:16:48 +0000 (UTC)
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigomatic refrigerator

 

Also clean the (not sure of the name - evaporator?) of the cooling part where the fan is.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Mon, 1/23/17, Mike Ondra mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigomatic refrigerator
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 9:07 AM


 









We have recently had occasion where
the refrigerator compressor ceases to work, or at least
doesn't come on when it should. Sometimes turning the
breaker off and back on will cause the compressor to
restart. But only sometimes. Possibly a sticky thermostat? 
Or weak capacitor? Any clues?Mike
OndraAletes SM#240Miami
Sent
from my Verizon 4G LTE DroidOn Jan 23, 2017 9:42 AM,
"Veit M veitm@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:















 









Hello:
We've sailed our boat for 5
years, and used the dual pole setup on pretty much every
long run. Setup time 10 min for the poles each side, plus
10+ min for the second sail. Used it all the way
up to 30+ kn running up the Gulf Stream.The setup
is easy, once you got it, and creates a very stable, flat
boat.
Absolutely loved
it.Cheers,VeitEx-Atman
SM215

Sent from my
iPad
On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:34 AM,
Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






It's great Jacob!  Easier than a
Spinnaker, you can sail as much as 20d or so off dead
downhill, roll the two sails up together to reef quickly, or
swing the ballooner over behind the Genoa if you have to
turn up into the wind in a pinch.  When I bought Kristy she
had a Spinnaker on board, but I've never used it.
 It's hard to douse singlehanded, but not hard to put
up.KentSM 243Kristy

Kent RobertsonS/V
Kristy
karkauai@...
cell: +507-61171896USA cell:
828-234-6819
On Jan
22, 2017, at 9:24 PM, jacob jacob.champness@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Hi all.  
Are the dual articulating whisker
poles really awesome or not really all that useful? 
We're looking at a couple Maramus-- one, from 1983, seem
to have come before that was introduced and has only one
pole and is lacking the framework in the shrouds.  The
other, from 1986, has dual pole setup.  Is that a huge
advantage, or no?  I've seen the Delos crew use them
and it definitely looks like it would be great for a long
downwind run, but I wonder what others think.
Thanks for you
thoughts!Jacob

























































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

Alan Leslie
 

Duralac is really an anticorrosive paste designed to prevent galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals (as is Tef Gel). If Duralac is allowed to harden in the atmosphere it doesn't fill the gaps between the metals which reduces its anticorrosive capapbilities.
I use Loctite on all screws/bolts that I can't afford to have come loose and I've never had any problem with it in saltwater. The bolts are always difficult to remove, which is a good sign.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dessalator Duo 60

Duane Siegfri
 

Alan,

Thanks for the reply.  I took the old one apart after reading your post, and the wire from the electromagnet to the Dessalator control wire was broken.  A quick resoldering and presto, a working 24 volt solenoid and motor!  It was a bit disconerting when I removed the "top end" of the solenoid and all the parts basically fell on the deck.  I managed to puzzle out how it all went back together.  I was a little concerned about polarity of the control wires since I lost track of that, but it works.  So either polarity doesn't matter, or I won that 50/50 bet!

The wire to the electromagnet is one strand!  I don't know if that's typical but that makes it pretty delicate and the way the motor vibrates that little tiny wire is bound to fatigue and break like a coathanger.  I'm going to order a new one for a spare in case it breaks again.

Now I wish I had taken photos, and I could have made an "Alexandre" post!

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

eric freedman
 

I like to use Duralac in these items. It is like a combination of tef-gel and locktite, if it is allowed to harden out of the water.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 8:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu "Wearing Bearing" - quick question?

 

 

Hi Guys,

Just happens that I had to replace a component of my Spurs Cutter due to a galvanic problem in September in Yacht Marin, Turkey.  On page 11 of the Spurs installation instructions they say "We recommend the use of Tef-Gel on all screws. Loc-Tite or equivalent is not recommended when used under salt water due to the osmotic properties (absorbs water) resulting in galvanic corrosion on the cutter threads".  BTW the manual points out that the zinc is needed because the plastic sleeve-like bearing isolates the blade from your prop shaft.



Also, BTW I have not commented on the Admiral's departure because I am still in denial.



Cheers, 

Bob, SV KAIMI SM429 Porto Montenegro, Tivat

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dual/articulating whisker poles

karkauai
 

The mast would have to have the whisker poke attachments.  Maybe Joel or Olivier knows if the old mast can be used or if it needs to be beefier in that area.

The support piece in the shrouds should be easy.  On the SM, the blocks at the toe rail are connected to the bottom of the stanchions...their connections may need to be beefed up, too.  Your biggest expense will probably be  a new foil with three groves and the extra halyard if you don't have that yet.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Jan 23, 2017, at 8:52 AM, jacob jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ok,  that's great input.  Thanks!

Has anyone ever retrofitted that setup on a Maramu that didn't have it originally?  I'd love to get a sense of how involved that would be.

Thanks again,
Jacob

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:42 AM Veit M veitm@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:






























 



















Hello:

We've sailed our boat for 5 years, and used the dual pole setup on pretty much every long run. Setup time 10 min for the poles each side, plus 10+ min for the second sail. 
Used it all the way up to 30+ kn running up the Gulf Stream.
The setup is easy, once you got it, and creates a very stable, flat boat.

Absolutely loved it.
Cheers,
Veit
Ex-Atman SM215


On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:































 













It's great Jacob!  Easier than a Spinnaker, you can sail as much as 20d or so off dead downhill, roll the two sails up together to reef quickly, or swing the ballooner over behind the Genoa if you have to turn up into the wind in a pinch.  When I bought Kristy she had a Spinnaker on board, but I've never used it.  It's hard to douse singlehanded, but not hard to put up.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Jan 22, 2017, at 9:24 PM, jacob jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:































 













Hi all.  

Are the dual articulating whisker poles really awesome or not really all that useful?  We're looking at a couple Maramus-- one, from 1983, seem to have come before that was introduced and has only one pole and is lacking the framework in the shrouds.  The other, from 1986, has dual pole setup.  Is that a huge advantage, or no?  I've seen the Delos crew use them and it definitely looks like it would be great for a long downwind run, but I wonder what others think.

Thanks for you thoughts!
Jacob































































































Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigomatic refrigerator

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Also clean the (not sure of the name - evaporator?) of the cooling part where the fan is.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Mon, 1/23/17, Mike Ondra mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigomatic refrigerator
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 9:07 AM


 









We have recently had occasion where
the refrigerator compressor ceases to work, or at least
doesn't come on when it should. Sometimes turning the
breaker off and back on will cause the compressor to
restart. But only sometimes. Possibly a sticky thermostat? 
Or weak capacitor? Any clues?Mike
OndraAletes SM#240Miami
Sent
from my Verizon 4G LTE DroidOn Jan 23, 2017 9:42 AM,
"Veit M veitm@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:















 









Hello:
We've sailed our boat for 5
years, and used the dual pole setup on pretty much every
long run. Setup time 10 min for the poles each side, plus
10+ min for the second sail. Used it all the way
up to 30+ kn running up the Gulf Stream.The setup
is easy, once you got it, and creates a very stable, flat
boat.
Absolutely loved
it.Cheers,VeitEx-Atman
SM215

Sent from my
iPad
On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:34 AM,
Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






It's great Jacob!  Easier than a
Spinnaker, you can sail as much as 20d or so off dead
downhill, roll the two sails up together to reef quickly, or
swing the ballooner over behind the Genoa if you have to
turn up into the wind in a pinch.  When I bought Kristy she
had a Spinnaker on board, but I've never used it.
 It's hard to douse singlehanded, but not hard to put
up.KentSM 243Kristy

Kent RobertsonS/V
Kristy
karkauai@...
cell: +507-61171896USA cell:
828-234-6819
On Jan
22, 2017, at 9:24 PM, jacob jacob.champness@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Hi all.  
Are the dual articulating whisker
poles really awesome or not really all that useful? 
We're looking at a couple Maramus-- one, from 1983, seem
to have come before that was introduced and has only one
pole and is lacking the framework in the shrouds.  The
other, from 1986, has dual pole setup.  Is that a huge
advantage, or no?  I've seen the Delos crew use them
and it definitely looks like it would be great for a long
downwind run, but I wonder what others think.
Thanks for you
thoughts!Jacob

























































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Re: Frigomatic refrigerator

Mike Ondra
 

We have recently had occasion where the refrigerator compressor ceases to work, or at least doesn't come on when it should. Sometimes turning the breaker off and back on will cause the compressor to restart. But only sometimes. Possibly a sticky thermostat?  Or weak capacitor? Any clues?
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM#240
Miami

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid

On Jan 23, 2017 9:42 AM, "Veit M veitm@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello:

We've sailed our boat for 5 years, and used the dual pole setup on pretty much every long run. Setup time 10 min for the poles each side, plus 10+ min for the second sail. 
Used it all the way up to 30+ kn running up the Gulf Stream.
The setup is easy, once you got it, and creates a very stable, flat boat.

Absolutely loved it.
Cheers,
Veit
Ex-Atman SM215


On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

It's great Jacob!  Easier than a Spinnaker, you can sail as much as 20d or so off dead downhill, roll the two sails up together to reef quickly, or swing the ballooner over behind the Genoa if you have to turn up into the wind in a pinch.  When I bought Kristy she had a Spinnaker on board, but I've never used it.  It's hard to douse singlehanded, but not hard to put up.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Jan 22, 2017, at 9:24 PM, jacob jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all.  

Are the dual articulating whisker poles really awesome or not really all that useful?  We're looking at a couple Maramus-- one, from 1983, seem to have come before that was introduced and has only one pole and is lacking the framework in the shrouds.  The other, from 1986, has dual pole setup.  Is that a huge advantage, or no?  I've seen the Delos crew use them and it definitely looks like it would be great for a long downwind run, but I wonder what others think.

Thanks for you thoughts!
Jacob