Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hot salty water coming from a small pipe out of the through hole by the entrance door
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Ofer,
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I think you talk about the “syphon breaker” for the engine. Try to follow the tube to see if it goes to your engine. Here is how it looks on the SM2K: http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_siphon_break.html Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Port de Plaisance de Gustavia, Saint Barthélémy, FWI --------------------------------------------
On Sun, 7/9/17, ofer magen ofermagen@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hot salty water coming from a small pipe out of the through hole by the entrance door To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 9, 2017, 7:15 AM Hallo to all, We are motoring in turkey. We are hearing splashing water noise from the draining hole near the door. We checked and saw a small pipe about 15 cm in the hole. Out of that pipe there is hot salty water coming out and making the noise. Does anyone know what that is? With that, the motor is not holding above 2200 RPM and going down to 1500 and up again. But we can hold steady on 2200 RPM if we go slowly up there. Any idea? Thanks . Ofer Magen Alba Amel54 2010 #160
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Hot salty water coming from a small pipe out of the through hole by the entrance door
ofer magen
Hallo to all, We are motoring in turkey. We are hearing splashing water noise from the draining hole near the door. We checked and saw a small pipe about 15 cm in the hole. Out of that pipe there is hot salty water coming out and making the noise. Does anyone know what that is? With that, the motor is not holding above 2200 RPM and going down to 1500 and up again. But we can hold steady on 2200 RPM if we go slowly up there. Any idea? Thanks . Ofer Magen Alba Amel54 2010 #160
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster limit switches
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Here it is.
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http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_sensor.html Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Port de Plaisance de Gustavia, Saint Barthélémy, FWI --------------------------------------------
On Sat, 7/8/17, Mcgovern.denise@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster limit switches To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 8, 2017, 3:35 PM Can someone post or send me a photo of the limit switches on a Super Maramu bow thruster. The switches are marked B, H, and SP and we need the positions. Mark is making adjustments in St. Thomas en route to the Chesapeake. Thanks, Denise and Mark McGovern S/V Cara SM Mcgovern.denise at gmail.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
hanspeter baettig
Hello Bill Brilliant how do you explains to the US newbes how to furling the mainsail. I agree.But please explaine us how you furling in the main mainsail (as a Commander Emeritus) how to furling the mainsail, ocean crossing, tradwinds 30 kn on the reach or behind, and you do neede to make a jib. Of cours you set up a "bullen stander" to avoid a jyb in the the stars. Hope you and your wife have a good time in your new house down the Texas cost 👍 Best regards Hanspeter Tamango 2 SM 16 Cacliaria, Sardinia, Italy Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 08.07.2017 um 14:37 schrieb 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster limit switches
The problem is resolved. Thanks for the help. Denise and Mark S/V Cara SM #440
On Jul 8, 2017 5:46 PM, "Denise McGovern" <mcgovern.denise@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster limit switches
Thanks for trying. I think yours is different.
On Jul 8, 2017 5:35 PM, "John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster limit switches
John Clark
Hi guys, I think your set up might be different than mine, if not I can take the cover off to get a better pic. I'll email you a view from top of the bow thruster, no attachments allowed on the forum. The skinny rod and disk is what operates the switches. John Clark SV Annie SM 37 Charleston SC
On Jul 8, 2017 4:36 PM, "Mcgovern.denise@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Bow thruster limit switches
Can someone post or send me a photo of the limit switches on a Super Maramu bow thruster. The switches are marked B, H, and SP and we need the positions.
Mark is making adjustments in St. Thomas en route to the Chesapeake. Thanks, Denise and Mark McGovern S/V Cara SM Mcgovern.denise at gmail.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Courtney,
No worries. A rookie mistake. I did the same when we first purchased Cream Puff.
The main thing to remember when furling the main is to head into wind, have the boom level and try to keep a little tension on the outhaul as the sail furls in. The jib is a little easier as you can control the stress on the sail by sheeting out and luff the sail to furl it.
Glad you have it straightened out.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Guadeloupe - Îles des Saintes
www.creampuff.us
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amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Mark I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly thank you so much!! Courtney
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From: "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" Date: 7/7/17 12:21 PM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Courtney,
As you unfurl the sail, unfurl it to a point where it gets stuck but do not pull it tight. Snug the outhaul but not very tight. Secure the boom. Work the in mast furling motor back and forth a few times but not too much at once – perhaps a full turn or a couple of turns each direction. Keeping a little tension on the outhaul the whole time. The main sail should slowly start to become unsnagged as you work the in-mast furling back and forth. It takes a little finesse to work it back and forth. As the sail comes out keep the outhaul snug. Usually the snags will give as the sail is going into the mast.
Important: Do not over strain the motors. Do not try to force the sail with the motor. If the motor starts to strain, STOP and go the other direction.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Guadeloupe - Îles des Saintes
www.creampuff.us
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amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi all, After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling. Question is how do I solve the problem? Thanks Courtney Amel 54 Trippin' Brunswick
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-------- Original message -------- From: "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" Date: 7/7/17 9:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646
Thanks all for extensive responses. As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work. We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention.
Best wishes,
On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Thanks for the plug, Porter.
Every Amel owner should do their very best to contain saltwater when opening anything with saltwater. A combination of towels and suction will keep your Amel engine room looking new. And, it is no more trouble to do things the BEST way.
On Jul 5, 2017 09:35, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Mine is extremely rusty. Purchased that way: likely prior mechanic did not use the Bill Rouse wet/dry vac/ surgical suction method for total NaCl containment. Applied Corosion X, now unchanged and have a spare in the parts list.
Works fine however is a cosmetic issue at present.
-- GARULFO Amel 54 #122 Cap d'Agde, France Posted by: "Mark Erdos"
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Mark I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly thank you so much!! Courtney Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Date: 7/7/17 12:21 PM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Courtney,
As you unfurl the sail, unfurl it to a point where it gets stuck but do not pull it tight. Snug the outhaul but not very tight. Secure the boom. Work the in mast furling motor back and forth a few times but not too much at once – perhaps a full turn or a couple of turns each direction. Keeping a little tension on the outhaul the whole time. The main sail should slowly start to become unsnagged as you work the in-mast furling back and forth. It takes a little finesse to work it back and forth. As the sail comes out keep the outhaul snug. Usually the snags will give as the sail is going into the mast.
Important: Do not over strain the motors. Do not try to force the sail with the motor. If the motor starts to strain, STOP and go the other direction.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Guadeloupe - Îles des Saintes
www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi all, After our first sail we have a stuck main sail not enough tension while furling. Question is how do I solve the problem? Thanks Courtney Amel 54 Trippin' Brunswick
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Date: 7/7/17 9:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 ONAN Generator MDKBN Fuel Pump 149 2646
Thanks all for extensive responses. As for some of you, this must be the result of a prior mechanics work. We will bear in mind your recommendations when we do our first intervention.
Best wishes,
On 5 July 2017 at 18:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Thanks for the plug, Porter.
Every Amel owner should do their very best to contain saltwater when opening anything with saltwater. A combination of towels and suction will keep your Amel engine room looking new. And, it is no more trouble to do things the BEST way.
On Jul 5, 2017 09:35, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Mine is extremely rusty. Purchased that way: likely prior mechanic did not use the Bill Rouse wet/dry vac/ surgical suction method for total NaCl containment. Applied Corosion X, now unchanged and have a spare in the parts list.
Works fine however is a cosmetic issue at present.
-- GARULFO Amel 54 #122 Cap d'Agde, France
Posted by: "Mark Erdos" <mcerdos@...>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Ben thank you I was lucky that the wind was not heavy. I had used the sail in light winds to get off of a small sandbar and furled it too rapidly because I was nervous and in a hurry, but all is well thank you all for your help. Courtney Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Date: 7/8/17 9:12 AM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler Hi Courtney, What Bill describes happened to us. It was totally my fault for very improperly furling the sail - in high winds with no outhaul. We were unable to get it out of the mast with in-out motion of outhaul. It was tightly backlashed. However, we were successfully in getting it out. I went up the mast (in a bosun's chair with safety line) where I could see top portion of sail bunched and pulled it out by hand while Gayle operated the outhaul. You need start at top where it is easier to pull out and slowly work downward. I think you'll find clearing it from top down is only way. It was impossible for me to pull bottom of sail out. Little by little you'll work your way to bottom and free sail. Once we stared this method, it took us about 45 minutes. It was more pulling by hand than outhaul. And many times rolling in and then out. Good luck and patience Ben Ben and Gayle S/V La Bella Vita SM #347 On Jul 8, 2017, at 8:37 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Bill thank you very much that is exactly what I did yesterday I'm sorry I did not respond to the group and let you know that the issue was taken care of it was just patients a little bit of tension and in and out and now all is well. I truly appreciate the generosity and intelligence of this group to help me through these first days as an owner you are all so accommodating and generous thanks to you all. Courtney Amel 54 Trippin' Brunswick Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Date: 7/8/17 8:37 AM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler Courtney, I still don't have enough information to give you a definite answer, so here goes my best guess. The sail has "backlashed" or in other words wound backwards over itself. It is going to take a someone keeping a very close eye on the leech where it goes into the slot in the mast to direct a crew member to furl and unfurl until you get the backlash out. While performing this it is difficult for me to tell you when to have pressure on the clew (outhaul tension) because it depends on how the sail is backlashed. The number one thing that you need to have is patience and do this one inch at a time, moving the furling motor to furl and unfurl while pulling at the appropriate time on the clew (outhaul). If you like, give me a call at the number below. I am assuming that the sails are original and has battens. The battens will make this job much more difficult. If you run out of patience, seek the help of a sail loft. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 1:19 PM, itsfun1 Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Hi Courtney, What Bill describes happened to us. It was totally my fault for very improperly furling the sail - in high winds with no outhaul. We were unable to get it out of the mast with in-out motion of outhaul. It was tightly backlashed. However, we were successfully in getting it out. I went up the mast (in a bosun's chair with safety line) where I could see top portion of sail bunched and pulled it out by hand while Gayle operated the outhaul. You need start at top where it is easier to pull out and slowly work downward. I think you'll find clearing it from top down is only way. It was impossible for me to pull bottom of sail out. Little by little you'll work your way to bottom and free sail. Once we stared this method, it took us about 45 minutes. It was more pulling by hand than outhaul. And many times rolling in and then out. Good luck and patience Ben Ben and Gayle S/V La Bella Vita SM #347
On Jul 8, 2017, at 8:37 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Courtney, I still don't have enough information to give you a definite answer, so here goes my best guess. The sail has "backlashed" or in other words wound backwards over itself. It is going to take a someone keeping a very close eye on the leech where it goes into the slot in the mast to direct a crew member to furl and unfurl until you get the backlash out. While performing this it is difficult for me to tell you when to have pressure on the clew (outhaul tension) because it depends on how the sail is backlashed. The number one thing that you need to have is patience and do this one inch at a time, moving the furling motor to furl and unfurl while pulling at the appropriate time on the clew (outhaul). If you like, give me a call at the number below. I am assuming that the sails are original and has battens. The battens will make this job much more difficult. If you run out of patience, seek the help of a sail loft. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 1:19 PM, itsfun1 Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
webercardio <webercardio@...>
I had this problem 2 years ago - bearings in the furler GEARBOX mounted over the motor were rusty and blocked the gear/motor. I secured the sail and removed the gearbox. Replaced the open bearings with a closed SKF bearing. Pictures are posted 2 years ago. Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Steve,
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My wife Cindy and I are on Dock 12 we will be around tomorrow some of the time. Please stop by if you like. We are gone on sunday but I will be back the following week.
Cheers
Courtney
-----Original Message----- From: Stephen Morrison steve_morrison@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 6:58 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler Hello Courtney,
Welcome to Brunswick. What dock are you on? There are 3 Super Maramu here. Duane and Peggy are on dock 9 with Wanderer, I am on dock 10 with my wife Kjersten and two daughters Tougy and Nurai on TouRai, and Paul and Tanya and their daughter Samantha are on dock 14 with Trillium.
All the best,
Steve Morrison
SM 380 TouRai
Brunswick, GA
On Jul 7, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Thanks Steve and every one else. With a little tension and some in and out all is now well with my Main........sail. Thanks Courtney Amel 54, Trippin Brunswick PS Steve sorry I wasn't around to offer you a drink we were Visiting my mom Cheers Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Stephen Morrison steve_morrison@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Date: 7/7/17 2:39 PM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler Having just gone down to find you on dock 12, it appeared from the dock that the mast foil was under a fair bit of tension and pulled aft jamming the slot. You may want to roll the mast furling motor out a tap and perhaps then back in some to see if you can get a good wrap on the foil without too much tension. I am on dock 10 if you get back to the boat and want extra hands and eyes. All the best, Steve Morrison SM380 TouRai Brunswick, GA
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Re: mainsail furler motor/gearbox
Duane Siegfri
Bill,
Thanks for the Outhaul Service instructions. That's next on my list! Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
Having just gone down to find you on dock 12, it appeared from the dock that the mast foil was under a fair bit of tension and pulled aft jamming the slot. You may want to roll the mast furling motor out a tap and perhaps then back in some to see if you can get a good wrap on the foil without too much tension. I am on dock 10 if you get back to the boat and want extra hands and eyes. All the best, Steve Morrison SM380 TouRai Brunswick, GA
On Jul 7, 2017, at 2:22 PM, itsfun1 Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler
Thanks Jeff Courtney Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Date: 7/7/17 1:02 PM (GMT-05:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 Main Sail Furler Greetings Courtney, I’ve had nothing but in mast furling boats and I’ve learned the following tricks: - HEAD into wind!!! - If your sail is in good condition, there should be no reason to get a jam. - Ensure your boom is horizontal. if you have a vang, release the tension. - Keep tension (light) on your outhaul as you furl in. In your case, I suspect the boom was not horizontal… if this is the case, you might have a “bunch up” about mid mast. Go up the mast and have an other CM furl in or out as you inspect the offender. Gently does it … it will fix it self when you are patient. Good luck Jean-Pierre Germain SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Curacao on the hard.
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