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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Life Raft

karkauai
 

Hmmm, that's a good idea about popping it for a learning experience, Steve.  I've been wondering what I should do with my old one.  I'm sure it's still good, but hate to give one away that can't be serviced.  Was considering giving it to one of the watermen on the Bay.  Anybody have any other thoughts on that subject?
Kent
SM243
Kristy



From: "flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:52 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Life Raft

 
We have an old 6 man Winslow raft packed in a Pelican case on Aloha. They are great rafts, and lighter than most of them by a substantial margin. Unfortunately, ours was way overdue for repacking, and we discovered it would be at least $1100, for a Winslow certified station to do the the re-pack, and that would only be good for a year. Problem 2...If you are not in the USA, good luck on finding a certified re-packing station. We were in the Caribbean, and would of had to backtrack to St Thomas, USVI to get ours packed. The next available place after the Caribbean for us was New Zealand. Bottom line, it is very difficult to get a Winslow raft re-packed if you are traveling around the globe.

We decided to purchase a top of the line Plastimo 6 person in a valise pack while in St Maarten for 1680 euros. The same raft in West Marine is $3400.00. For us, this choice was a no brainer, and the certification on the new raft is good for 3 years. While obtaining a raft in St Maarten is not likely to happen, I believe Martinique has similar prices.

The old Winslow still looks like new since it was stored in the air tight Pelican case, and we intend to pop it in Shelter Bay Marina, Panama in January prior to our canal transit. We thought we could gather all the cruisers interested, and have an in the water life raft training day. If anyone plans to be there in that time frame, you are invited.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Santa Marta, Columbia




Life Raft

Stephen Davis
 

We have an old 6 man Winslow raft packed in a Pelican case on Aloha. They are great rafts, and lighter than most of them by a substantial margin. Unfortunately, ours was way overdue for repacking, and we discovered it would be at least $1100, for a Winslow certified station to do the the re-pack, and that would only be good for a year. Problem 2...If you are not in the USA, good luck on finding a certified re-packing station. We were in the Caribbean, and would of had to backtrack to St Thomas, USVI to get ours packed. The next available place after the Caribbean for us was New Zealand. Bottom line, it is very difficult to get a Winslow raft re-packed if you are traveling around the globe.

We decided to purchase a top of the line Plastimo 6 person in a valise pack while in St Maarten for 1680 euros. The same raft in West Marine is $3400.00. For us, this choice was a no brainer, and the certification on the new raft is good for 3 years. While obtaining a raft in St Maarten is not likely to happen, I believe Martinique has similar prices.

The old Winslow still looks like new since it was stored in the air tight Pelican case, and we intend to pop it in Shelter Bay Marina, Panama in January prior to our canal transit. We thought we could gather all the cruisers interested, and have an in the water life raft training day. If anyone plans to be there in that time frame, you are invited.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Santa Marta, Columbia



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Recommendations on life raft

Peter Forbes
 


Well we have a Viking liferaft but after hearing that from Mark on Cream Puff I am now rather doubtful. Mine is Solas A and has only a 12 month between service each time. Last Christmas it was serviced in Cape Town - they did not let my witness the service as they could  not give me a firm satisfactory date. I was time limited in Cape Town so had little option but to trust them.

Next lift raft probably won't be Viking!

Peter
Peter Forbes
Amel 54 #035 in Grenada
00447836 209730

On 28 Sep 2017, at 17:55, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

James,

 

I will echo Bill’s comment but stress the repack issue. We inherited our Viking 4 person raft when we purchased Cream Puff. Each time we have had it recertified we are hit with an added “age charge”. The older the raft, the more expensive it is to repack. I think this is a scam to try to put the raft out of commission by making it cost prohibitive to repack. During our last repack we had to wait 8 weeks for Viking to deliver an inside light at a cost that would make you think it was built for the military. The company doing the repack was contracted with Viking so they could not use a substitute light. Only Viking’s stuff can go in a Viking raft.

 

I read an old article in Practical Sailor where they took rafts that were in date, had been repacked and were donated for the test. Of the 8 rafts they pulled the string on, only 5 inflated. The remaining 3 did not inflate because of human errors made while repacking. Two of them still had safety pins in the gas canister that should have been removed. Their recommendation was to watch while your raft is being serviced and repacked. The also recommended asking for a copy of the procedure and following the checklist as the work is performed.

 

When at the St. Petersburg Boat Show in Florida, I talked to a Viking Certified Company about letting me watch. I was talking to the owner of a private company dealing Viking rafts. The coporate Viking marketing person overheard our conversation from across the booth. She came over and jumped down my throat. She was incredibly rude. She ranted and raved about how Viking dealers were not allowed to have customers in the work area. She went on and on about how well they are trained and how I would cause a distraction. I told her about the article in Practical Sailor and when I said Viking was one of the rafts that did not inflate she went nuts on me. She got really angry. Cindy left. I followed Cindy wondering why Viking would let a person like this out in public. Later, the guy we were talking to called me and apologized. He told me I was welcome to watch the procedure and we set up an appointment. While I was in his shop watching the work being performed (not touching anything and not being a distraction), I noticed a representative from the USCG doing the same thing. His company did all the rafts for Coast Guard vessels in Florida. I felt good about the work being done correctly. He packed a multitude of brands and also sold flares etc. His prices on parachute flares were ½ the price of West Marine. He later told me that Viking was the most difficult manufacture to deal with and had unrealistic demands of their partners.

 

Needles to say, when we eventually replace our raft, it’ll not be with a Viking.

 

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:09 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Recommendations on life raft

 

 

Of course the oldest joke in the marine business is you never see an unhappy liferaft customer...

 

Some things to look at:  

 

Does it fit where you want to put it?  Most people use the designed life raft locker on the Amel SM to hold a valise style life raft pack, although other places are possible. 

 

What is the required service interval?  Some rafts are still using a 1 year repack, and that gets really expensive, and also very much a hassle to find someone reliable if you are cruising more remote areas.

 

Talk to someone who runs a repack shop about what they would recommend.  They are the people with WAY more hands on experience with liferafts than anyone else.

 

I do not have anything magic to say about the individual brands, other than it was a real help to see them inflated at the boat show and imagine trying to transfer from the big boat to that tiny pod in a running sea... some were WAY easier than others.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Back Creek, Annapolis, Maryland

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hello everyone - 

Though this is not Amel specific, I would like to ask the group for recommendations regarding what you all would consider the best life raft for off-shore sailing.  This would be for an Amel SM2000, and ideally a 6 or 8 person life raft.  

Perhaps there is one that fits best on the boat, and perhaps you could share any good or bad experience with the ones that you have had.  

I appreciate any feedback...

 

-James (hopefully a new Amel SM owner in the very near future)

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Recommendations on life raft

Mark Erdos
 

James,

 

I will echo Bill’s comment but stress the repack issue. We inherited our Viking 4 person raft when we purchased Cream Puff. Each time we have had it recertified we are hit with an added “age charge”. The older the raft, the more expensive it is to repack. I think this is a scam to try to put the raft out of commission by making it cost prohibitive to repack. During our last repack we had to wait 8 weeks for Viking to deliver an inside light at a cost that would make you think it was built for the military. The company doing the repack was contracted with Viking so they could not use a substitute light. Only Viking’s stuff can go in a Viking raft.

 

I read an old article in Practical Sailor where they took rafts that were in date, had been repacked and were donated for the test. Of the 8 rafts they pulled the string on, only 5 inflated. The remaining 3 did not inflate because of human errors made while repacking. Two of them still had safety pins in the gas canister that should have been removed. Their recommendation was to watch while your raft is being serviced and repacked. The also recommended asking for a copy of the procedure and following the checklist as the work is performed.

 

When at the St. Petersburg Boat Show in Florida, I talked to a Viking Certified Company about letting me watch. I was talking to the owner of a private company dealing Viking rafts. The coporate Viking marketing person overheard our conversation from across the booth. She came over and jumped down my throat. She was incredibly rude. She ranted and raved about how Viking dealers were not allowed to have customers in the work area. She went on and on about how well they are trained and how I would cause a distraction. I told her about the article in Practical Sailor and when I said Viking was one of the rafts that did not inflate she went nuts on me. She got really angry. Cindy left. I followed Cindy wondering why Viking would let a person like this out in public. Later, the guy we were talking to called me and apologized. He told me I was welcome to watch the procedure and we set up an appointment. While I was in his shop watching the work being performed (not touching anything and not being a distraction), I noticed a representative from the USCG doing the same thing. His company did all the rafts for Coast Guard vessels in Florida. I felt good about the work being done correctly. He packed a multitude of brands and also sold flares etc. His prices on parachute flares were ½ the price of West Marine. He later told me that Viking was the most difficult manufacture to deal with and had unrealistic demands of their partners.

 

Needles to say, when we eventually replace our raft, it’ll not be with a Viking.

 

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:09 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Recommendations on life raft

 

 

Of course the oldest joke in the marine business is you never see an unhappy liferaft customer...

 

Some things to look at:  

 

Does it fit where you want to put it?  Most people use the designed life raft locker on the Amel SM to hold a valise style life raft pack, although other places are possible. 

 

What is the required service interval?  Some rafts are still using a 1 year repack, and that gets really expensive, and also very much a hassle to find someone reliable if you are cruising more remote areas.

 

Talk to someone who runs a repack shop about what they would recommend.  They are the people with WAY more hands on experience with liferafts than anyone else.

 

I do not have anything magic to say about the individual brands, other than it was a real help to see them inflated at the boat show and imagine trying to transfer from the big boat to that tiny pod in a running sea... some were WAY easier than others.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Back Creek, Annapolis, Maryland

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hello everyone - 

Though this is not Amel specific, I would like to ask the group for recommendations regarding what you all would consider the best life raft for off-shore sailing.  This would be for an Amel SM2000, and ideally a 6 or 8 person life raft.  

Perhaps there is one that fits best on the boat, and perhaps you could share any good or bad experience with the ones that you have had.  

I appreciate any feedback...

 

-James (hopefully a new Amel SM owner in the very near future)

 

 


Re: Watermaker - Santorin - Sea Chest

Herbert Lackner
 

Eric,

I used the hole where the Radar cable from the mizzen goes to the engineer compartment. Very easy from the aft bathroom. Nothing to destroy, No additional hole. .

The saltwater Outlet Hose i connected to the Outlet Hose after the Manual bilge Pump. No extra hole here, top

I can Post Pictures...

SN120 KALI MERA
Shelter Bay Panama

Sent from my Wiko FEVER


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Winslow are good quality rafts; they are the firm used by most aircraft manufacturers.

I had a case built into the rail aft port and mine resides there, above the deck and is extremely easy to deploy.  Like the 54’s have.

For me, the safety was the more important factor.

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007



On 28 Sep 2017, at 11:07, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi James.  I just purchased a Winslow 6 man offshore raft.  My 18 year old one was still in good shape a few years ago, but they won't recertify it again.  Fortunately, I have never had occasion to use the old one, so can't comment on it's efficacy.  The new one is in a soft valise and is lighter weight (still 70lbs) and a smaller package than the old one.  I keep it in the port deck locker except when I am on a passage, in which case I lash it to the aft cabin top.  I chose not to have a permanently mounted hard case because I like the decks clear of obstructions when I'm not at sea.  The new one will give me a bit more room in the locker for extra fuel.

It would be nice to see them in action (at a boat show?), see how hard it is to get aboard, etc.  Without that in-person look, I just chose what appeared to be a well equipped, stable looking raft.  I also have a well equipped ditch bag with extra EPIRB, VHF, flares, hand-pump desalinator, food, etc.  My sat phone and InReach will go into it in a pelican case.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Currently St Michaels, MD





Party in St Michaels, MD

karkauai
 

Hi, All!

My girlfriend, Iris, and I are having a pot-luck outdoor party at her house on Tuesday 10/3 starting at around 6PM.  Any Amelians in the area are welcome to join in.  I know it's last-minute, but if anybody is interested, contact me at karkauai "at" yahoo "dot" com, or telephone 828-234-6819 and I'll give you directions.


Kent

SM243

Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

James,
Almost all Amels - new as well as old - in Le Marin have Plastimo rafts. Seems Amel thinks well of them.  However,  if I were to go offshore I would consider the Viking self-righting raft designed with North Sea conditions in mind.  It may cost a little more but seems superior unit used by North Sea oil companies. 
Ben 

Ben and Gayle 
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:25 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

James,

I originally had a Switlik which lasted me 18 years and was still good when I got rid of it.

It is important to get a life raft that is not too big as without sufficient interior weight they tend to flip. I chose a Winslow 6 man raft. Winslow was my choice as it has pockets inside that close. I believe the model was SLOP. It has numerous designs for a hard case, I also got a great price at the Annapolis boat

show. I chose it for 3 reasons,. If you read survival stories , you read about rafts flipping and losing their contents. With the pockets that can’t happen, secondly it is lighter than most rafts and, it has a 3 year repacking life.

 

My ditch bags are the type with dry suit zippers and will float with  75 pounds in them most ditch bags sink. I have also attached a painter to them with a snap shackle. Amongst other things in them  I have:

 

Epirb

VHF

Watermaker

30 days of life raft food.

Lots of flares

Fishing gear and a board to cut up fish.

And a lot more things.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

 

 

Hello everyone - 

Though this is not Amel specific, I would like to ask the group for recommendations regarding what you all would consider the best life raft for off-shore sailing.  This would be for an Amel SM2000, and ideally a 6 or 8 person life raft.  

Perhaps there is one that fits best on the boat, and perhaps you could share any good or bad experience with the ones that you have had.  

I appreciate any feedback...

 

-James (hopefully a new Amel SM owner in the very near future)

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

James Cromie
 

Everyone - This is tremendously helpful!  I must say that I find this forum to be an incredible resource, thanks to the kindness and extensive experience that seems to be shared by all of those who contribute to this group.  
Thank you, and I hope to get to know many of you more as we join the community of Amel owners (hopefully). 

James

On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:25 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

I originally had a Switlik which lasted me 18 years and was still good when I got rid of it.

It is important to get a life raft that is not too big as without sufficient interior weight they tend to flip. I chose a Winslow 6 man raft. Winslow was my choice as it has pockets inside that close. I believe the model was SLOP. It has numerous designs for a hard case, I also got a great price at the Annapolis boat

show. I chose it for 3 reasons,. If you read survival stories , you read about rafts flipping and losing their contents. With the pockets that can’t happen, secondly it is lighter than most rafts and, it has a 3 year repacking life.

 

My ditch bags are the type with dry suit zippers and will float with  75 pounds in them most ditch bags sink. I have also attached a painter to them with a snap shackle. Amongst other things in them  I have:

 

Epirb

VHF

Watermaker

30 days of life raft food.

Lots of flares

Fishing gear and a board to cut up fish.

And a lot more things.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

 

  

Hello everyone - 

Though this is not Amel specific, I would like to ask the group for recommendations regarding what you all would consider the best life raft for off-shore sailing.  This would be for an Amel SM2000, and ideally a 6 or 8 person life raft.  

Perhaps there is one that fits best on the boat, and perhaps you could share any good or bad experience with the ones that you have had.  

I appreciate any feedback...

 

-James (hopefully a new Amel SM owner in the very near future)

 

 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

eric freedman
 

James,

I forgot to mention that when your raft is repacked see if you can see them repack it so you know what it looks like. The other reason I picked a slop Winslow is that it has a platform that floats just at water level and makes boarding easier for us old geezers.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

 

 

Hi James.  I just purchased a Winslow 6 man offshore raft.  My 18 year old one was still in good shape a few years ago, but they won't recertify it again.  Fortunately, I have never had occasion to use the old one, so can't comment on it's efficacy.  The new one is in a soft valise and is lighter weight (still 70lbs) and a smaller package than the old one.  I keep it in the port deck locker except when I am on a passage, in which case I lash it to the aft cabin top.  I chose not to have a permanently mounted hard case because I like the decks clear of obstructions when I'm not at sea.  The new one will give me a bit more room in the locker for extra fuel.

 

It would be nice to see them in action (at a boat show?), see how hard it is to get aboard, etc.  Without that in-person look, I just chose what appeared to be a well equipped, stable looking raft.  I also have a well equipped ditch bag with extra EPIRB, VHF, flares, hand-pump desalinator, food, etc.  My sat phone and InReach will go into it in a pelican case.


Kent

SM 243

Kristy

Currently St Michaels, MD


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

eric freedman
 

James,

I originally had a Switlik which lasted me 18 years and was still good when I got rid of it.

It is important to get a life raft that is not too big as without sufficient interior weight they tend to flip. I chose a Winslow 6 man raft. Winslow was my choice as it has pockets inside that close. I believe the model was SLOP. It has numerous designs for a hard case, I also got a great price at the Annapolis boat

show. I chose it for 3 reasons,. If you read survival stories , you read about rafts flipping and losing their contents. With the pockets that can’t happen, secondly it is lighter than most rafts and, it has a 3 year repacking life.

 

My ditch bags are the type with dry suit zippers and will float with  75 pounds in them most ditch bags sink. I have also attached a painter to them with a snap shackle. Amongst other things in them  I have:

 

Epirb

VHF

Watermaker

30 days of life raft food.

Lots of flares

Fishing gear and a board to cut up fish.

And a lot more things.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

 

 

Hello everyone - 

Though this is not Amel specific, I would like to ask the group for recommendations regarding what you all would consider the best life raft for off-shore sailing.  This would be for an Amel SM2000, and ideally a 6 or 8 person life raft.  

Perhaps there is one that fits best on the boat, and perhaps you could share any good or bad experience with the ones that you have had.  

I appreciate any feedback...

 

-James (hopefully a new Amel SM owner in the very near future)

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
 

We have also recently replaced our original Zodiac life raft with the Winslow 6-person SLOP version and store it right beside the helm station in the cockpit locker. It sits atop a plastic tote with extra water and food so that the raft never gets buried or moved to another place to access things below it. 

Steve Morrison
SM 380 TouRai
Biunswick, GA


On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi James.  I just purchased a Winslow 6 man offshore raft.  My 18 year old one was still in good shape a few years ago, but they won't recertify it again.  Fortunately, I have never had occasion to use the old one, so can't comment on it's efficacy.  The new one is in a soft valise and is lighter weight (still 70lbs) and a smaller package than the old one.  I keep it in the port deck locker except when I am on a passage, in which case I lash it to the aft cabin top.  I chose not to have a permanently mounted hard case because I like the decks clear of obstructions when I'm not at sea.  The new one will give me a bit more room in the locker for extra fuel.

It would be nice to see them in action (at a boat show?), see how hard it is to get aboard, etc.  Without that in-person look, I just chose what appeared to be a well equipped, stable looking raft.  I also have a well equipped ditch bag with extra EPIRB, VHF, flares, hand-pump desalinator, food, etc.  My sat phone and InReach will go into it in a pelican case.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Currently St Michaels, MD



Re: Recommendations on life raft

greatketch@...
 

Of course the oldest joke in the marine business is you never see an unhappy liferaft customer...

Some things to look at:  

Does it fit where you want to put it?  Most people use the designed life raft locker on the Amel SM to hold a valise style life raft pack, although other places are possible. 

What is the required service interval?  Some rafts are still using a 1 year repack, and that gets really expensive, and also very much a hassle to find someone reliable if you are cruising more remote areas.

Talk to someone who runs a repack shop about what they would recommend.  They are the people with WAY more hands on experience with liferafts than anyone else.

I do not have anything magic to say about the individual brands, other than it was a real help to see them inflated at the boat show and imagine trying to transfer from the big boat to that tiny pod in a running sea... some were WAY easier than others.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Back Creek, Annapolis, Maryland



---In amelyachtowners@..., <jamescromie@...> wrote :

Hello everyone - 
Though this is not Amel specific, I would like to ask the group for recommendations regarding what you all would consider the best life raft for off-shore sailing.  This would be for an Amel SM2000, and ideally a 6 or 8 person life raft.  
Perhaps there is one that fits best on the boat, and perhaps you could share any good or bad experience with the ones that you have had.  
I appreciate any feedback...

-James (hopefully a new Amel SM owner in the very near future)



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendations on life raft

karkauai
 

Hi James.  I just purchased a Winslow 6 man offshore raft.  My 18 year old one was still in good shape a few years ago, but they won't recertify it again.  Fortunately, I have never had occasion to use the old one, so can't comment on it's efficacy.  The new one is in a soft valise and is lighter weight (still 70lbs) and a smaller package than the old one.  I keep it in the port deck locker except when I am on a passage, in which case I lash it to the aft cabin top.  I chose not to have a permanently mounted hard case because I like the decks clear of obstructions when I'm not at sea.  The new one will give me a bit more room in the locker for extra fuel.

It would be nice to see them in action (at a boat show?), see how hard it is to get aboard, etc.  Without that in-person look, I just chose what appeared to be a well equipped, stable looking raft.  I also have a well equipped ditch bag with extra EPIRB, VHF, flares, hand-pump desalinator, food, etc.  My sat phone and InReach will go into it in a pelican case.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Currently St Michaels, MD



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jeff on Spirit and hurricane Maria

Mark Erdos
 

Jeff,

 

Glad you made it back safely. I look forward to reading about lessons learned and suggested equipment.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jeff on Spirit and hurricane Maria

 

 

Good Morning Amelians,

I returned to NY late yesterday, and my only contact since 9/18, when I departed, till my return to NY was my sat phone, but more importantly, my email ability thru it, via my ocens software on my laptop. I could, however, only use my vessel email, which is different from my everyday email address.

I was fortunate to be able to offer it's use upon return to PR, to a number of people allowing them to reassure loved ones off island of their safety. A Blessing for all.

I want to thank those who made kind remarks towards me, and express my deepest sympathies for those who have experienced losses or damage to their vessels. I've seen the heartbreak here in Puerto Real firsthand, and spent days helping salvage valuables from vessels beached, holed, and, and awash, with my RIB. I was grateful to be able to help, knowing full well that if I had remained, I would have been in the same predicament.

To add insult to injury, there was looting of some of the boats in dire straits.

There are a number of lessons learned and later, I'll offer some suggestions that could be helpful to prevent tragedy for someone in the future. A few are items I plan to add to my equipment aboard, and I'm sure it will initiate a helpful discussion.

Later though, as I have a busy day with 4 boats up here.

 

Best Wishes to All,

 

Jeff

 

Spirit Amel 54 #14 Puerto Real, PR

 

 


On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 09:08 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Good News!

 

I watched Jeff dock Spirit in TCI earlier this year. It was blowing really hard. He never touched a pylon.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:02 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jeff on Spirit and hurricane Maria

 

 

I just received a note from Jeff on his Amel 54.

He left the South west coast of Puerto  Rico before Maria and headed south. He encountered winds to 40 knots and seas 8-12 feet.

He returned to the marina and he was the only boat floating,. The buoys to the entrance were gone

Some boats floating and many piled up on the beach. He entered and tied up to the gas dock in 20 knots.

He did this all single handed.30 hours total time solo.

Congratulations to Jeff


Re: Watermaker - Santorin - Sea Chest

ericmeury@...
 

Herbert.

So where are the rest of the watermaker parts.  You are using the intake from the rear head?  Where did you put the hose so you didn't destroy the water tight bulkhead?


Re: Watermaker - Santorin - Sea Chest

ericmeury@...
 

I think the SM is just one and supply the engine watermaker generator and AC.


Recommendations on life raft

James Cromie
 

Hello everyone - 
Though this is not Amel specific, I would like to ask the group for recommendations regarding what you all would consider the best life raft for off-shore sailing.  This would be for an Amel SM2000, and ideally a 6 or 8 person life raft.  
Perhaps there is one that fits best on the boat, and perhaps you could share any good or bad experience with the ones that you have had.  
I appreciate any feedback...

-James (hopefully a new Amel SM owner in the very near future)



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jeff on Spirit and hurricane Maria

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main and mizzen furlers

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks everyone for sharing your experience. We did go with an 8mm line wrapped around the foil spaced about 6" between wraps and everything has been quiet.

Saves some wear on the Furlers and masts and happy cruisers that will be wintering aboard around Kokomo.

Respectfully;


Mohammad and Aty

On Sep 27, 2017, at 8:38 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks bill. Have you tried this?


Respectfully;


Mohammad and Aty

On Sep 25, 2017, at 11:02 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I think the best solution is to have a sailmaker make a "noise-stopping sail" out of old sail cloth about 1m H X 1.5m L. 

Have him sew bolt rope on the 1m side and a grommet at the top and bottom on that side. On the other 1m side cut the side to a point (triangle), and place a grommet at the point. Connect the top grommet to the swivel with small line, connect a "down guy" to the bottom grommet, and connect and "outhaul to the point grommet of the triangle. Raise this "sail" midway. Furl this sail (don't worry about wrapping the downhaul because you will only use it when unfurled and to haul down. Secure the "outhaul" to something that keeps it tight.

Voila!

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970




On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:12 AM, mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello every one;

We are removing our sails for the winter and would appreciate ideas on how to prevent the Furler extrusions from hitting the mast when the sails are removed.

We have tried different approaches and have had some success but still got some occasional contact and sound depending on wind conditions.. We would like to avoid being a nuisance to the live aboard community and also prevent any potential damage.

Thanks in advance for your time.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099