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Re: Our new Amel and a little light problem

Dean Gillies
 

@SVPeregrinus,

+1 for your NaviSafe suggestion. I now have the tricolor variant on-board.
I have used these before, and they are a great solution.

After a year or two I find that the plastic housing gets "sticky" to the touch. 

Has anyone discovered a way of removing this stickyness?
The sides of the mouse for my Furuno Navnet system has the same problem.
 
Dean 
SY Stella Amel 54 #154
(Argistoli, Kefalonia)


Re: Our new Amel and a little light problem

Dean Gillies
 

Ian,
What you have done makes sense to me. It's great to have easy access and servicing (bulb change) to something which needs replacing on a regular basis. 

LED lights "should" not need replacing all that often. Lopo claim their lights to have MTBF figure of 50,000 hours.

As regards failure mode, I don't believe my Lopo bow light failed due to water ingress. It is completely encapsulated/potted in a clear epoxy-like material, and I do not see any signs of water ingress.  Furthermore,  my masthead tricolor does not work either (I knew about that beforehand), and I understand it is a similar vintage and construction Lopo light.  For me the evidence points to a latent defect in the design/manufacture of those lights in the 2006-2011 period.  On the internet there are many problem reports about Lopo lights from that era of production which also point to defective product batches.   These seem to have dwindled significantly in recent years, indicating that the problem has been addressed by Lopo (although of course they will never admit to there being a LD in the first place :-)

So, your question is interesting. Does one choose the improved replace-ability of the conventional style over the (supposedly) improved reliability of sealed LED?  Or is it a bet each way!

Dean
SY STELLA, Amel 54 #154


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] DC Grounding fault

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Alan;

We sometimes (may be once or twice every year) have this issue for a short time without having made any modifications. As a matter of fact it happened a couple of days ago when we docked in the harbor in Aegina Greece. We had to relocate to another spot in the harbor in order to get shore power. As soon as we relocated, the issue went away.

It appears that the environment ( harbor, other boats, etc.) may have an effect on creating the electrical path between the negative and the ground, but I have not spent the time to figure out where this path may be, since the occurance on our boat is so rare. 

I'm not sure if there is any validity to my theory which is only based on observations. There could be many other explanations to what we have observed.

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:00 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I wrote about this last year and never found a solution but the problem went away by itself. 

NOW it's back again : MASSE - light comes on when the switch in the companionway is operated.

Meaning there is a connection between 24VDC -ve and the ground system - somewhere.

I've disconnected the macerator pumps, the watermaker DC pump, the anchor wash pump, the refrigerator, no difference. 

What else is there that would have both 24VDC-ve and a ground connected to it that could cause this fault ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Hi Eric,
This is rigger Amel recommends.  

Gaetan Rivet
Caraibe Greement
Email:  gaetan@...
Cell #:  596696415642
Le Marin MARTINIQUE 97290

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Amel Le Marin contact info:

Caraibes - Amel FR Amel
Jean Collin
Office:  +596 (0) 596 58 50 37

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Aug 13, 2017, at 10:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

I know it has been posted before but does someone have the Amel contact and the riggers contact info in Martinique?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


Martinique

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I know it has been posted before but does someone have the Amel contact and the riggers contact info in Martinique?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: lifting dinghy

eric freedman
 

Hi Miles,

How did Ladybug turn out?

I plan on heading to Martinique about October 28.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: lifting dinghy

 

 

Hi Miles (say hi to Carol),  and everyone who chimed in.  I've installed a block and small line, and ordered the line for the job.

 

Happy sailing!

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

Panama cell: +507-61171896

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Aug 13, 2017, at 11:00 AM, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

I hope that you and Kristy are well.  Our boats all came with a block at the mizzen spreaders, as Steve describes.  This block and line are also used to support the passerelle on a bungee cord so that it can be held off the dock.  Let me know if you want any additional pictures.

 

I will be heading for Martinique from Newport this November.  Will you be going south?

 

Regards,

 

Miles  SM 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI  


DC Grounding fault

Alan Leslie
 

I wrote about this last year and never found a solution but the problem went away by itself. 

NOW it's back again : MASSE - light comes on when the switch in the companionway is operated.

Meaning there is a connection between 24VDC -ve and the ground system - somewhere.

I've disconnected the macerator pumps, the watermaker DC pump, the anchor wash pump, the refrigerator, no difference. 

What else is there that would have both 24VDC-ve and a ground connected to it that could cause this fault ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: lifting dinghy

karkauai
 

Hi Miles (say hi to Carol),  and everyone who chimed in.  I've installed a block and small line, and ordered the line for the job.

Happy sailing!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 13, 2017, at 11:00 AM, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

I hope that you and Kristy are well.  Our boats all came with a block at the mizzen spreaders, as Steve describes.  This block and line are also used to support the passerelle on a bungee cord so that it can be held off the dock.  Let me know if you want any additional pictures.

 

I will be heading for Martinique from Newport this November.  Will you be going south?

 

Regards,

 

Miles  SM 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI  


Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Paul,

We kept the old Raymarine T-300 and associated ST7001+ control head.  We have two rotary switches which let us choose which autopilot to engage (B&G or Raymarine), and which drive (rotary or linear).

I haven't used the latest Raymarine stuff, so I don't know about pros and cons.  

All I can tell you from personal experience and from stuff I have read: don't buy this year's product series.  Buy last year's!  Generally the stuff that just came out does not have the best software.  Whereas if you buy whatever your manufacturer of choice started shipping about 12 months ago, you will be getting stable, reliable software that has been tested and debugged thanks to the other customers who bought the latest and greatest.

But don't buy stuff that came out more than 18 months ago, because then you will only get support for a limited window of time before it is discontinued and support becomes minimal to nonexistent.

Cheers,

Peregrinus
SM2K Nr. 350 (2002)
At anchor, Eretria


Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey

greatketch@...
 

Paul,

Even though we have B&G brand instruments for most things, our system looks very little like the original 1990's electronics that came with our boat when we bought her.  

The original Hydra unit is kept primarily to act as an interface between the mast head wind instrument and everything else.  

The more sophisticated of our original Autohelm autopilots we kept installed as a back up.  Both drive units are the original Autohelm drives (chain drive to the wheel/linear drive to the quadrant).  We can run either AP computer to either AP drive.  The voltage of the clutch is the only fly in that ointment, but it is not hard to fix.

We still have the original B&G analog gauges for Wind speed, and Wind direction, but find the display on the digital Triton units which have True wind angle and True wind speed as well as Apparent wind angle and speed pretty much make the old B&G units second tier.  I know some people swear by these old analog gauges, but they don't do much for me.

Right now we have two Tritons to display data, and a 12" Zeus Touch as a primary display.  Almost all data (except for the mast head wind info) is on the NMEA2000 bus, and the NMEA0183 data has almost gone away.  Our most recent update is adding the B&G 3G radar when the old Furuno 1831 died.  It is very nice having a radar display at the helm station instead of below!

Bill Kinney
SM160,  Harmonie
Bar Harbor, Maine.


Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey

Paul Osterberg
 

Do you use the B&G AP with the old Raymarine driveunits?
We thinking of buying the Raymarine EV 400 system as main AP and use the old Autohelm as back up.
Probably also changing the instrumentation to Raymarine all over as my sonic speed stoped working and guess difficult get spare parts and probably running towards it,s end anyhow.
Anyone with experience with the RAYMARINE EV 400 system and can give pro and cons? Compared with the B&G system
Paul on SY Kerpa SM259


Re: Unknown freshwater source

Duane Siegfri
 

We had a similiar problem that was caused by water backing up into the dishwasher (under the sink in our boat).

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown freshwater source

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We hade similar strange leakage, after hours of searching we found a locker under the stove where there were a hose with a valve. We tightened the hose clamp and problem solved.

Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

Skickat från min iPad

11 aug. 2017 kl. 11:11 skrev leopold.hauer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi everyone,

 

We have a "well" in the pantry bilges of our SM ( hull 69) : In higher waves, especially with wind from ahead , we get water ( definitely NO saltwater) in the compartment with the freshwater pump in front of the stove, continuing to the compartment underneath the sink and then to the one underneath the steps. The only origin we could imagine is the  freshwater tank inspection lid underneath the freezer, but we are not sure and  don't see any connection between  this lid and the  bilges in the pantry. 

The taps of dishwasher and washing machine are closed but most of the water is in this compartment. We are afraid that we have to remove the freezer.Has anyone ever removed the freezer and can give us hints or a description of how to do it?

Did or does anyone have this water problem too? Any ideas of a solution?


 

Greetings,

Leo Hauer

SM. Yin Yang


Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey

greatketch@...
 

Yes, a 24 ->12 volt convertor will certainly work.  The advantages of the resistor are fewer parts (one!) and it cost $2.80--for a package of two.

I do not know how consistent the menu trees are for different MFDs, but here is where that option lives on on our Zeus touch:

Push "Page"-> Go to "Settings" -> Select "Autopilot" -> Select "Sailing"

From the resulting popup window, turn on "VMG optimizing".

I do not think this is in the manual for the autopilot computer at all. You have to go to the manual for the device (or devices) you use to control it.

I know it can also be selected from the Triton display, but I don't remember that menu list because I hardly ever use it...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Bar Harbor, Maine.


---In amelyachtowners@..., <svperegrinus@...> wrote :

Bill,

We have the same B&G AC42, using a Victron DC-DC converter from 24V to 12V for the clutch.  A great installation since 2014.

What autopilot mode or setting is it that optimizes VMG when close-hauled?  I seem to have missed that on the manual!

Thanks in advance,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
en route to Chalcis (Negropont)


Re: lifting dinghy

Miles
 

Hi Kent,

 

I hope that you and Kristy are well.  Our boats all came with a block at the mizzen spreaders, as Steve describes.  This block and line are also used to support the passerelle on a bungee cord so that it can be held off the dock.  Let me know if you want any additional pictures.

 

I will be heading for Martinique from Newport this November.  Will you be going south?

 

Regards,

 

Miles  SM 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI  


Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Bill,

We have the same B&G AC42, using a Victron DC-DC converter from 24V to 12V for the clutch.  A great installation since 2014.

What autopilot mode or setting is it that optimizes VMG when close-hauled?  I seem to have missed that on the manual!

Thanks in advance,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
en route to Chalcis (Negropont)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey

Ian Park
 

Ian
The seat on the Santorin is a much less grand affair than the SM. It's is just a moulted back rest across the top of a stainless tube that forms the arm rests. We have an elasticated cover that slips over the back rest and keeps the foam in place.
Ian


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] lifting dinghy

Ian Park
 

Kent
I won't be returning to the boat until mid November. I'm in UK and the boat's in Grenada....

Ian


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Spare Main Halyard Spec's

greatketch@...
 

On our boat a fixed line was added by a previous owner from the masthead down to the deck.  I use an rock climber's ascender on that 10mm line as my safety for going up the mast.  

Usually, for the primary line for going up the mast I use the ballonner halyard.  Unless of course the problem that needs my attention up there IS the ballonner halyard.  In which case I have to drop the jib and use the jib halyard.  Having a "spare" halyard has a certain appeal in that case.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Bar Harbor, Maine.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] lifting dinghy

greatketch@...
 

I meant "odd" as in different from other SM's, not  in the sense of "bad".  It it works for you--it is good!

We use our utility halyard (to the spreaders) to hoist the outboard, either to the rail or, for passages, over the rail and into the locker.  

If we are lifting the dinghy to the aft deck to deflate it and put it away, we also usually use the staysail halyard for it's better lead.  When we hoist the dinghy out of the water at anchor for security, we use the ballonner halyard because it has an even better lead. just getting the dinghy out of the water in a safe place.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Bar Harbor, Maine