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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In search of a Super Maramu

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning James,

I haven’t decided yet, but I might put for sale Nikimat (Super Maramu 2000) in a year or so.
Again, not decided because I have lots of spare parts onboard but we can stay in contact.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Port de Gustavia, Saint Barthélémy, FWI



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On Thu, 6/29/17, jamescromie@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] In search of a Super Maramu
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 9:12 PM


 









Hello!  I have discovered this email
group whilst reading through blogs of various owners of
Super Maramus.  This forum seems like a great resource for
networking with Amel owners with lots of experience.   The
Super Maramu seems to be the ideal yacht for our family of
two adults and two girls aged 5 and 9 to embark on a life of
cruising for the next few years.   We are currently based
in Vermont, though are willing to travel to look at yachts
elsewhere.  I would very much appreciate any guidance that
might be given to us as we conduct our search.  Certainly,
if anyone is aware of anyone planning to sell a Super
Maramu, we'd be interested to hear about
it. 
Thank you for your
help!
James


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In search of a Super Maramu

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi James the best way to start looking is to contact Joel Potter (954) 812-2485 Not only will he help you find a beautiful boat,  he will help you to learn and understand her systems.
Cheers
Courtney
s/v Trippin' 
Amel 54


-----Original Message-----
From: jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Jun 29, 2017 10:12 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] In search of a Super Maramu

 
Hello!  I have discovered this email group whilst reading through blogs of various owners of Super Maramus.  This forum seems like a great resource for networking with Amel owners with lots of experience.   The Super Maramu seems to be the ideal yacht for our family of two adults and two girls aged 5 and 9 to embark on a life of cruising for the next few years.   We are currently based in Vermont, though are willing to travel to look at yachts elsewhere.  I would very much appreciate any guidance that might be given to us as we conduct our search.  Certainly, if anyone is aware of anyone planning to sell a Super Maramu, we'd be interested to hear about it. 

Thank you for your help!

James


Former SM owner John Folino passes

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Last night John Folino - former owner of La Bella Vita then know as  Sujulon - died after surgery to install a heart pump device.   He was victim of staph infection.  John was original owner of SM 347 and an Amel champion.  Before his death he was in process of buying a new Amel 55.  John was always the optimist.  Not sure how many forum members knew John but those that did would want to know of his passing.


Ben 


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita 

SM 347

Le Marin 


In search of a Super Maramu

James Cromie
 

Hello!  I have discovered this email group whilst reading through blogs of various owners of Super Maramus.  This forum seems like a great resource for networking with Amel owners with lots of experience.   The Super Maramu seems to be the ideal yacht for our family of two adults and two girls aged 5 and 9 to embark on a life of cruising for the next few years.   We are currently based in Vermont, though are willing to travel to look at yachts elsewhere.  I would very much appreciate any guidance that might be given to us as we conduct our search.  Certainly, if anyone is aware of anyone planning to sell a Super Maramu, we'd be interested to hear about it. 


Thank you for your help!


James


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster issues

John Clark
 

Yes,  my bow thruster operates just as Bill Kinney described.  To put the pin in I squeeze the cable just a little to lift the assembly the last few millimeters.

John Clark
SV Annie. SM 37
Charleston, SC

On Jun 29, 2017 9:13 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Duane,


It sounds like your limit switch is set a tiny bit too high.

When adjusted properly, the jack screw should stop lifting a few millimeters BEFORE the pin can be insterted.  You squeeze the wires together by hand to lift the motor the last little bit against the gasket and then insert the pin.  The motor's weight should sit on the pin, not hang from the cables.  When the pin is in place there should be just a tiny bit of slack in the cables.

That's the way I was taught to adjust it, and it works.

Bill Kinney 
SM160, Harmonie
Underway, off of Long Island,
Headed to Boston


Re: Bow thruster issues

greatketch@...
 

Duane,

It sounds like your limit switch is set a tiny bit too high.

When adjusted properly, the jack screw should stop lifting a few millimeters BEFORE the pin can be insterted.  You squeeze the wires together by hand to lift the motor the last little bit against the gasket and then insert the pin.  The motor's weight should sit on the pin, not hang from the cables.  When the pin is in place there should be just a tiny bit of slack in the cables.

That's the way I was taught to adjust it, and it works.

Bill Kinney 
SM160, Harmonie
Underway, off of Long Island,
Headed to Boston


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster issues

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I have yet to get complete resolution on thruster as I'm waiting for Amel to service the unit next week.  Here's what I've discovered so far.  First, I found that I blew a 10 amp automotive type fuse located in control box  (thanks Alex). This happened  when thruster went all the way up without stopping.  After replacing that fuse, jack motor works fine.  Why did this happen?  The band holding the "UP" stop sensor broke free allowing sensor to move to a position which did not recognize motor had travelled too far.  Also,  as a result of excessive motor travel, rigging cables are out of adjustment.  I'm assuming this but 20 hours of pounding seas may have loosened the rigging.   What I still don't understand is how thruster could leak with pin in and two good outside foam gaskets.  Could bad shaft seal be culprit?   Not sure.  

I did read Gary Silver's excellent article on adjusting  the bow thruster rigging.  I now understand the interplay amongst the up/down sensors and rigging cables.  If you adjust one,  you must adjust the others.  For the first cable adjustment, I've decided to take Bill R's advise and let Amel do the job.  Hopefully I'll learn from watching.
Ben 

Ben and Gayle 
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jun 29, 2017, at 3:18 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Either the stop sensor is not working, or it is not aligned correctly.

Bill

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 2:06 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben,


When you have a resolution I would love to hear what it is.

I've been having the same issue with my bow thruster.  It will work normally for several down/use/up cycles, then it will blow the fuse.  When the fuse is blown the "at-sea" pin will not go through the hole since the shaft is too high.  I had Peg raise and lower it repeatedly and it always lined up with the "at-sea pin".  Apparently every once in a while it overshoots and I can't figure out why.

The wire rope raising the thruster is tight and the others loose, as you described yours.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster issues

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Either the stop sensor is not working, or it is not aligned correctly.

Bill

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 2:06 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben,


When you have a resolution I would love to hear what it is.

I've been having the same issue with my bow thruster.  It will work normally for several down/use/up cycles, then it will blow the fuse.  When the fuse is blown the "at-sea" pin will not go through the hole since the shaft is too high.  I had Peg raise and lower it repeatedly and it always lined up with the "at-sea pin".  Apparently every once in a while it overshoots and I can't figure out why.

The wire rope raising the thruster is tight and the others loose, as you described yours.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477



Re: Bow thruster issues

Duane Siegfri
 

Ben,

When you have a resolution I would love to hear what it is.

I've been having the same issue with my bow thruster.  It will work normally for several down/use/up cycles, then it will blow the fuse.  When the fuse is blown the "at-sea" pin will not go through the hole since the shaft is too high.  I had Peg raise and lower it repeatedly and it always lined up with the "at-sea pin".  Apparently every once in a while it overshoots and I can't figure out why.

The wire rope raising the thruster is tight and the others loose, as you described yours.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Bill,
Rob (from Rob Marine) the Climma Tech recommended by Veco, told me he is back to Saint Maarten in 2 weeks. So will go there.
I hope he can find out the probleme(s) and that I can motivate him to get the compressor from Italy…

Thanks again! Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Thu, 6/29/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 9:26 AM


 









Alex,
I know, but I know that Veco Italy
will sell any part to a qualified Climma tech. Maybe Veco
USA will also. 
You
need a Climma tech.
Best,
CW Bill RouseAdmiral, Texas NavyCommander EmeritusAmel School www.amelschool.com720 Winnie StGalveston Island, TX
77550+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at
8:51 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Hello Bill,



Veco/Coastal Climate Control just replied they can't
(don't want) to sell the compressor only...



Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Thu, 6/29/17, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@rocketmail.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioning Climma
Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 6:19 AM





Good morning Bill,



That would be wonderful if I could only

need a new compressor!!!



Sincerely, Alexandre







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On Wed, 6/28/17, 'Bill & Judy

Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air

Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement

To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com"

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017, 4:50

PM





 







 





   

     

     

      Alex,

Smart move. You have done all you

can do...now it is time for a Climma

Tech.

Good luck, even if the compressor

needs replacing, it will be less than

$1,000.

Best,

CW Bill RouseAdmiral,

Texas Navy Commander EmeritusAmel

School www.amelschool.com 720

Winnie StGalveston Island,

TX77550+1(832)
380-4970







On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at

4:11 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

wrote:



























 



 







 





   

     

     

      Good afternoon

Bill,







Coastal Climate Control just told me a

replacement unit is

$3,455.34 plus the Vega MK3 display.

$279.78, plus shipping

to me.  Then also won’t arrive

before september. 







I totally agree a smaller unit would

be adequate.  I ask

Coastal Climate Control about these.



But first might go back to Sint

Maarten to have a real

specialist checking the unit.







Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre







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On Wed, 6/28/17, 'Bill & Judy

Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

com> wrote:







Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air

Conditioning Climma

Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement



  To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

com>



  Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017,

12:42 PM



 



 



   



 



 



 



   



 



 



     



       



       



        Alex,



  Since that is the aft cabin, you

can



  probably get by with a smaller

Climma Compact unit, maybe

as



  low as 6,000 BTU.



  Write Coastal Climate Control



 

<info"at"coastalclimatecontrol

.com>



  Best,



 



  CW



  Bill RouseAdmiral, Texas



  NavyCommander



  EmeritusAmel

School www.amelschool.com720 Winnie

StGalveston Island, TX



  77550+1(832)

380-4970



 



 



 



  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at



  12:13 PM, Alexandre Uster von

Baar uster@rocketmail.com



  [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

com>



  wrote:



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



   



 



 



 



   



 



 



     



       



       



        Good

afternoon,



 



 



 



  Looks like I will have to

replace my air conditioning

Climma



  Marine Compact 9 EH



 



 



 



  I would prefer to stay with

Climma Marine as it is the



  original equipment.



 



 



 



  Has anyone purchase the newer

Climma Marine unit?  From



  where and how much? 



 



 



 



  Thanks in advance.



 



 



 



  Sincerely, Alexandre



 



  SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



 



  Port de Gustavia, Saint

Barthélémy, FWI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

I know, but I know that Veco Italy will sell any part to a qualified Climma tech. Maybe Veco USA will also. 

You need a Climma tech.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550




On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

Veco/Coastal Climate Control just replied they can't (don't want) to sell the compressor only...

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 6/29/17, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 6:19 AM




Good morning Bill,

That would be wonderful if I could only
need a new compressor!!!

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 6/28/17, 'Bill & Judy
Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air
Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017, 4:50
PM


 



 


   
     
     
      Alex,
Smart move. You have done all you
can do...now it is time for a Climma
Tech.
Good luck, even if the compressor
needs replacing, it will be less than
$1,000.
Best,
CW Bill RouseAdmiral,
Texas Navy Commander EmeritusAmel
School www.amelschool.com 720
Winnie StGalveston Island,
TX77550+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at
4:11 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:













 

 



 


   
     
     
      Good afternoon
Bill,



Coastal Climate Control just told me a
replacement unit is
$3,455.34 plus the Vega MK3 display.
$279.78, plus shipping
to me.  Then also won’t arrive
before september. 



I totally agree a smaller unit would
be adequate.  I ask
Coastal Climate Control about these.

But first might go back to Sint
Maarten to have a real
specialist checking the unit.



Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre



------------------------------
--------------

On Wed, 6/28/17, 'Bill & Judy
Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners] com> wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air
Conditioning Climma
Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement

  To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com" com>

  Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017,
12:42 PM

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

 

 

     

       

       

        Alex,

  Since that is the aft cabin, you
can

  probably get by with a smaller
Climma Compact unit, maybe
as

  low as 6,000 BTU.

  Write Coastal Climate Control

 
.com>

  Best,

 

  CW

  Bill RouseAdmiral, Texas

  NavyCommander

  EmeritusAmel
School www.amelschool.com720 Winnie
StGalveston Island, TX

  77550+1(832)
380-4970

 

 

 

  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at

  12:13 PM, Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@...

  [amelyachtowners] com>

  wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

 

 

     

       

       

        Good
afternoon,

 

 

 

  Looks like I will have to
replace my air conditioning
Climma

  Marine Compact 9 EH

 

 

 

  I would prefer to stay with
Climma Marine as it is the

  original equipment.

 

 

 

  Has anyone purchase the newer
Climma Marine unit?  From

  where and how much? 

 

 

 

  Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

  Sincerely, Alexandre

 

  SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

 

  Port de Gustavia, Saint
Barthélémy, FWI

 

 

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse & marina

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

La Bella Vita was in Nanny Cay Tortola running on 60 hertz for 13 years without blown capacitors on front cabin or main cabin ACs.  And units were used a lot in that very hot marina.  Compressor failed on rear cabin unit five years ago and was replaced with Marine Air 220v/60hz unit. The latter runs fine on 50hz generator. 

Ben 
Ben and Gayle 
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Good morning Duane,

Coastal Climate Control says that it is ok to run their 50 Hz air conditioning on 60 Hz, just will burn more often the capacitors.

I don’t know about the Dometic one, since Eric has one, he can answer when he uses shore power (often 60 Hz) or his generator (50 Hz).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Port de Gustavia, Saint Barthélémy, FWI

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On Thu, 6/29/17, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse & marina
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 7:57 AM


 









From Alexandres photo, the unit is marked 220V
50hz, yet we can plug these into US power at 60 hz.  I just
find it odd that they don't mark it with both
frequencies...or did Amel modify it somehow?
The Dometic system that Eric
mentions must have the same 50/60hz ability, but on the web
site they list different units for 50hz vs 60hz, there
isn't one that will handle either
frequency.
I
understand some appliances are not frequency sensitive, but
I thought a compressor would be?
Just curious...

DuaneWanderer,
SM#477.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust Fan for Cabin - Opinions?

karkauai
 

Hi Duane,
I have an awning that comes in three parts forward cockpit and after it cools the boat down a good 10°, and you can put your cockpit cover away allowing air to come over the dodger and through the cockpit.

Before I got the awning, I ran the fan for the Espar to move some air, but it was minimally effective.

 I have also seen a Hatch added to the aft cabin top over the berth.  It is said to add greatly to the air flow and comfort in the aft cabin. I am going to install one, too.

Either of these are energy independent.  Probably better than the fan.  

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:03 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexandre, 


I looked up a 127mm computer fan (a big one???) and it was only 141 cfm, not big enough to make the difference I'm looking for, even in groups of four.  On the plus side, it is very low on amperage draw and quiet.  It would be fine for ventilating your boat to keep some small air movement going.

I'm looking for an alternative to air conditioning, and that would require mass air movement.  There is often a 10 or 15 degree differential between inside the boat and outside the boat in the hot season early in the evening when we turn in.  Bringing the cooler outside air inside in mass quantities is the answer.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Bill,

Veco/Coastal Climate Control just replied they can't (don't want) to sell the compressor only...

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 6/29/17, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 6:19 AM


Good morning Bill,

That would be wonderful if I could only
need a new compressor!!!

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 6/28/17, 'Bill & Judy
Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air
Conditioning Climma Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017, 4:50
PM


 



 


   
     
     
      Alex,
Smart move. You have done all you
can do...now it is time for a Climma
Tech.
Good luck, even if the compressor
needs replacing, it will be less than
$1,000.
Best,
CW Bill RouseAdmiral,
Texas Navy Commander EmeritusAmel
School www.amelschool.com 720
Winnie StGalveston Island,
TX77550+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at
4:11 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:













 

 



 


   
     
     
      Good afternoon
Bill,



Coastal Climate Control just told me a
replacement unit is
$3,455.34 plus the Vega MK3 display.
$279.78, plus shipping
to me.  Then also won’t arrive
before september. 



I totally agree a smaller unit would
be adequate.  I ask
Coastal Climate Control about these.

But first might go back to Sint
Maarten to have a real
specialist checking the unit.



Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre



------------------------------
--------------

On Wed, 6/28/17, 'Bill & Judy
Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air
Conditioning Climma
Marine Compact 9 EH Replacement

  To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

  Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017,
12:42 PM

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

 

 

     

       

       

        Alex,

  Since that is the aft cabin, you
can

  probably get by with a smaller
Climma Compact unit, maybe
as

  low as 6,000 BTU.

  Write Coastal Climate Control

 
<info"at"coastalclimatecontrol
.com>

  Best,

 

  CW

  Bill RouseAdmiral, Texas

  NavyCommander

  EmeritusAmel
School www.amelschool.com720 Winnie
StGalveston Island, TX

  77550+1(832)
380-4970

 

 

 

  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at

  12:13 PM, Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com

  [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

  wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

 

 

     

       

       

        Good
afternoon,

 

 

 

  Looks like I will have to
replace my air conditioning
Climma

  Marine Compact 9 EH

 

 

 

  I would prefer to stay with
Climma Marine as it is the

  original equipment.

 

 

 

  Has anyone purchase the newer
Climma Marine unit?  From

  where and how much? 

 

 

 

  Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

  Sincerely, Alexandre

 

  SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

 

  Port de Gustavia, Saint
Barthélémy, FWI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster issues

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I will do just that fuse and let them adjust.  I was lucky to have it work when I pulled in with 20 knot winds 

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Totally agree with Bill,
I had someone working on the sensors when I was in Florida, this was a "guessing game".
Same for the rigging, Amel know what they are doing.
Just change the fuse then see if it moves, but let Amel do the work.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Thu, 6/29/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster issues
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 8:43 AM


 









OK, since you are in le Marin,
you should see Amel.
Bill
Rouse
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at
8:14 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









It was pinned on initial passage to Sint
Maarten and then to Le Marin.  But now pin will not go in
because shaft is too far up.  I pulled pin to use at Le
Marin but did not notice rigging issues or dangling
sensor.  Using it  with inoperable sensor and rigging out
of alignment allowed unit to jam - I think.
Ben 
Ben DriverS/V La Bella VitaSM
#347
Sent from my
iPad
On
Jun 29, 2017, at 9:02 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners] com> wrote:
















 






Ben,
Was the bow thruster pinned in the
UP position for the passage?
If it were me, I would go to Amel in
le Marin for them to adjust. You may have burned up the
actuator motor that lifts and lowers.
Best,

CW
Bill RouseAdmiral, Texas
NavyCommander
EmeritusAmel School www.amelschool.com720 Winnie StGalveston Island, TX
77550+1(832) 380-4970






On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at
7:54 AM, joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners] com> wrote:















 









After a particularly rough passage
from Virgin Gorda to Sint Maarten, I noticed a good deal of
water under floorboard outside forward head.  I know from
 this forum that it was from thruster.  Thruster had been
removed and serviced last October while on the hard and
leaked not one drop.  In any event I used my Amel in the
water tool to remove unit for inspection.  I found that
both external foam gaskets were in place and not deformed as
was inside gasket.  And shaft seal was firmly in place.  I
re-installed  unit and proceeded to Le Marin - where
I'm now berthed.  Again more water but now I think I
know why. 
Apparently the clamp that
holds sensor labeled "H" -which I believe controls
upward stop position - broke.  (Sensor is hanging free by
its connection). This cased thruster to move way too far up
and then not far enough down which eventually mal adjust
ed the rigging.  After using then thruster when  I
arrived into Le marin the unit came up and stuck in the up
position. It will now not move up or down.  Top cable is
extremely tight pulling thruster to a point above safety pin
hole so pin cannot be inserted.  Lower downward pull cable
is extremely loose.  All this indicates rigging much out of
alignment.  When I switch on the unit all three sensors -
H, B, and SP - light up when switches are flipped but no
movement.  
My question --- Is there a
breaker or fuse on the up/down jack motor?  My control
box and sensors have power but I cannot get motor movement
down.  I need to get unit down some before I can proceed
with rigging adjustment.  
I
can of course go to Amel here in Le Marin. But I would like
to better understand the thruster.  
Ben 
Ben
and Gayle La Bella Vita
 SM2 #347Le Marin


































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster issues

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I plan to see them today.  I'm hoping they have a better eye for this rigging than I.  And there are many SM's here to use as a reference.

Ben

Ben and Gayle 
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:43 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

OK, since you are in le Marin, you should see Amel.

Bill Rouse

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

It was pinned on initial passage to Sint Maarten and then to Le Marin.  But now pin will not go in because shaft is too far up.  I pulled pin to use at Le Marin but did not notice rigging issues or dangling sensor.  Using it  with inoperable sensor and rigging out of alignment allowed unit to jam - I think.

Ben 

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:02 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Ben,

Was the bow thruster pinned in the UP position for the passage?

If it were me, I would go to Amel in le Marin for them to adjust. You may have burned up the actuator motor that lifts and lowers.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550







On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 7:54 AM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

After a particularly rough passage from Virgin Gorda to Sint Maarten, I noticed a good deal of water under floorboard outside forward head.  I know from  this forum that it was from thruster.  Thruster had been removed and serviced last October while on the hard and leaked not one drop.  In any event I used my Amel in the water tool to remove unit for inspection.  I found that both external foam gaskets were in place and not deformed as was inside gasket.  And shaft seal was firmly in place.  I re-installed  unit and proceeded to Le Marin - where I'm now berthed.  Again more water but now I think I know why. 


Apparently the clamp that holds sensor labeled "H" -which I believe controls upward stop position - broke.  (Sensor is hanging free by its connection). This cased thruster to move way too far up and then not far enough down which eventually mal adjust ed the rigging.  After using then thruster when  I arrived into Le marin the unit came up and stuck in the up position. It will now not move up or down.  Top cable is extremely tight pulling thruster to a point above safety pin hole so pin cannot be inserted.  Lower downward pull cable is extremely loose.  All this indicates rigging much out of alignment.  When I switch on the unit all three sensors - H, B, and SP - light up when switches are flipped but no movement.  


My question --- Is there a breaker or fuse on the up/down jack motor?  My control box and sensors have power but I cannot get motor movement down.  I need to get unit down some before I can proceed with rigging adjustment.  


I can of course go to Amel here in Le Marin. But I would like to better understand the thruster.  


Ben 


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita  

SM2 #347

Le Marin




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster issues

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Totally agree with Bill,
I had someone working on the sensors when I was in Florida, this was a "guessing game".
Same for the rigging, Amel know what they are doing.
Just change the fuse then see if it moves, but let Amel do the work.

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 6/29/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster issues
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 8:43 AM


 









OK, since you are in le Marin,
you should see Amel.
Bill
Rouse
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at
8:14 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









It was pinned on initial passage to Sint
Maarten and then to Le Marin.  But now pin will not go in
because shaft is too far up.  I pulled pin to use at Le
Marin but did not notice rigging issues or dangling
sensor.  Using it  with inoperable sensor and rigging out
of alignment allowed unit to jam - I think.
Ben 
Ben DriverS/V La Bella VitaSM
#347
Sent from my
iPad
On
Jun 29, 2017, at 9:02 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:
















 






Ben,
Was the bow thruster pinned in the
UP position for the passage?
If it were me, I would go to Amel in
le Marin for them to adjust. You may have burned up the
actuator motor that lifts and lowers.
Best,

CW
Bill RouseAdmiral, Texas
NavyCommander
EmeritusAmel School www.amelschool.com720 Winnie StGalveston Island, TX
77550+1(832) 380-4970






On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at
7:54 AM, joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:















 









After a particularly rough passage
from Virgin Gorda to Sint Maarten, I noticed a good deal of
water under floorboard outside forward head.  I know from
 this forum that it was from thruster.  Thruster had been
removed and serviced last October while on the hard and
leaked not one drop.  In any event I used my Amel in the
water tool to remove unit for inspection.  I found that
both external foam gaskets were in place and not deformed as
was inside gasket.  And shaft seal was firmly in place.  I
re-installed  unit and proceeded to Le Marin - where
I'm now berthed.  Again more water but now I think I
know why. 
Apparently the clamp that
holds sensor labeled "H" -which I believe controls
upward stop position - broke.  (Sensor is hanging free by
its connection). This cased thruster to move way too far up
and then not far enough down which eventually mal adjust
ed the rigging.  After using then thruster when  I
arrived into Le marin the unit came up and stuck in the up
position. It will now not move up or down.  Top cable is
extremely tight pulling thruster to a point above safety pin
hole so pin cannot be inserted.  Lower downward pull cable
is extremely loose.  All this indicates rigging much out of
alignment.  When I switch on the unit all three sensors -
H, B, and SP - light up when switches are flipped but no
movement.  
My question --- Is there a
breaker or fuse on the up/down jack motor?  My control
box and sensors have power but I cannot get motor movement
down.  I need to get unit down some before I can proceed
with rigging adjustment.  
I
can of course go to Amel here in Le Marin. But I would like
to better understand the thruster.  
Ben 
Ben
and Gayle La Bella Vita
 SM2 #347Le Marin


































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse & marina

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

Agree.

Bill ROUSE

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Good morning Ian,

Yes the Calpeda Water pump works as the other air conditioning units work,
and I believe this is a loop from 1 unit to another then out at the bow on
the port side.

Yes the main boat breaker and the shore power trip instantly when
electricity go to the unit. If I disconnect the harness going to the
compressor, it does not trip the power.

Yes the other air conditioning work.

I am very reluctant using the generator to try to run the faulty air
conditioning as I don’t want to risk another control board.

I already testes and changed the capacitors…

I am afraid it is a short in the compressor…

Thanks again for your help…
In a couple of weeks, likely to go back to Sint Maarten and have a proper
Climma tech doing the trouble shooting…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 6/29/17, Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@yahoo.co.uk [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220
Volt Panel Fuse & marina
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 8:07 AM
















Hi Alexandre,
I take it that you have checked the obvious? Does the
Klima a/c
water pump send cooling water through to the outlet on
the forward
port side of the hull? If the pump motor is not
running then the
CB will trip after a few seconds. I recently went
though this. At
first I thought the motor/pump had seized up and
needed the turn
with screwdriver treatment. But in my case it was the
10uF run
capacitor that had fallen to 6.37 uF . Changing this
for a new one
restored normal working.
If the breaker trips immediately then it is likely to
be
something else. I take it that the other a/c units
work normally?
If not, it may be associated with the cooling motor.
Try tripping
the Eau de Mer breaker in the engine room. Then start
the genset
and select the suspect a/c unit to on. If the breaker
trips after
about 20 seconds or so, then it is likely to be a
cooling motor
fault. Maybe the run capacitor is short circuit?
Disconnect the
two wires that disappear into the motor itself.
Measure the
resistance. It should be around 38 ohms. If your test
meter
measures capacitance, check the actual capacitance of
the
capacitor under the lid. You must disconnect it first.
If it is
not 10 uF then best to change it.
Apologies if you have already been through this, but
I have only
just seen the thread.
Good luck
Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader Marmaris Turkey




On 29/06/2017 11:40,
Alexandre Uster
von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] wrote:





Good morning Eric,



I am afraid the continuity feel over my skill
level at the
moment…



Going to contact Titan Marine and Rob Marine
both in Saint
Maarten recommended by Coastal Climate
Control, then
likely will sail back to Saint Maarten.



Hopefully as Bill mentioned, the compressor
can be
changed…



I have not tried to tap the compressor with a
soft mallet,
as when it is connected it trips the power.
(If I
disconnect its harness then the power does not
trip).



Have a great trip!



Sincerely Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 6/28/17, kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air
Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse
& marina

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017, 11:08 PM

























Hi Alexandre,

Continuity means that if you are using a

multimeter set to ohms. If you touch the
two leads

together you read 0 that means there is a very
good

connection between the leads that is
continuity. If you

have the compressor disconnected and touch
one lead to
one

of the two power wires and the case of the
compressor on a

shiny area and the meter reads 0 you have a
short in the

compressor.



Climate control only sells parts to the two
operations

in St Maarten.The Climma company near the
bridge

perma frost has an extremely bad reputation
and I have had

experience with them. Enertech also wanted to
build me a

new evaporator for one of my freezers for
$600- years ago

and the evaporator cost me $150 from Climate
control. You

might ask at Budget marine or Island water
world for a

recommendation.



The dometic air conditioner is almost a do it
yourself

installation without almost any modifications
to the

system.

If the compressor is shorted it is more
economical to

replace the whole unit as it is old and
something else
might

go bad.

Did you try tapping the compressor with a soft
mallet

and then seeing if it will start.

Good luck.



























































----- Original Message -----

From:

"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners]"

Date: Wednesday,

June 28, 2017 5:07 pm

Subject: Re: [Amel

Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning
Tripping 220 Volt

Panel Fuse & marina

To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Good afternoon Eric,


I checked the small capacitors as well
as the large ones.

I am not sure what means “measure
the

continuity to the

compressor case”.


When I plug the air conditioning: it
trips the power.

If I disconnect the
wires in the harness going to the

compressor, then it doesn’t trip.



So by “having a bad compressor”
does it means that I need a new

one?
Or can it be rebuilt?

According to Climate Control, they are
2

Climma Marine person in

Sint Maarten,
I will contact them, then likely go back
there.

Thanks for the info
on the Dometic 10. Will it also power the

Calpeda cooling pump? Or does it
required

modifications…

Sincerely, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 6/28/17, kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners]

wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning

Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse &
marina

To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date:
Wednesday, June 28, 2017, 12:34 PM

Alexandre,
I am leaving the first bridge
tomorrow.

I would check the 3 small capacitors
that

run the

fan.
I
guess you checked the 2 big ones that work
with the

compressor.
did you measure the continuity to the
compressor case

to the power leads of
the compressor?



I think you have a bad compressor
and bad fan

capacitors--remember there
is a time delay.

If you bring a AC tech
on board I think he will find

the
same. The other very obscure possibility is
that the

compressor is out of gas. However that
is

something that we

can not do. The
compressor gas is measured in ounces.



Fair Winds,
Eric

Sm 376
----- Original
Message -----
From:
"Alexandre

Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]"


Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:45
am

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft
Cabin Air

Conditioning Tripping 220
Volt Panel Fuse & marina

To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Good morning Eric,
Since you
are

leaving in a little bit, making it
short:

Here is what I did:
I completely removed the unit (I
will

make an illustration later
on of the
removal process).

I connected the air conditioning
unit

in

the cockpit to a shore
power (this way
it won’t trip my boat all the time).

Here is what I find out:
When I
connect the harness going to the

compressor, the power

trips
right

away.
So I disconnected the harness

going to
the compressor and it did

not
trip.
In one of
your email, you

mention if there is a
short in the

compressor, then it is dead. Correct? Or is
there other

test

to do?


Also,
I did another test (not connecting

the
compressor harness)

but
connecting

the harness to the fan (and
control), the power

did not trip,
but the fan was not turning

(even
thought I was

measuring
electricity at the fan plug).
So looks
to me
the fan is also dead…

Some pictures of the above tests:
http://nikimat.com/air_conditioning_climma_marine_compact_9_eh_test.html

Thanks again,
sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 6/28/17,
kimberlite@optonline.net

[amelyachtowners]

wrote:
Subject:
Re: [Amel

Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air
Conditioning

Tripping 220 Volt
Panel Fuse &

marina
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date:

Wednesday, June 28, 2017, 8:06
AM

Hi Alexandre,
I will be at sea either this afternoon
or
tomorrow..
Please reply to
WB2cwd@winlink.org.

Fair winds,
Eric

-----
Original
Message
-----

From: "Alexandre
Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]"


Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017
6:25

am

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Aft

Cabin Air
Conditioning Tripping 220
Volt Panel Fuse & marina
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Good morning Bill &
Eric,
Thanks

for your continuous
support.
I will keep you posted of
what I find.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 6/27/17,
kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners]

wrote:
Subject:

Re:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air

Conditioning

Tripping 220
Volt

Panel Fuse &
marina
To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date:
Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 5:21

PM




Bill,
Cant
Hurt.
Eric

----- Original
Message -----
From:
"'Bill &
Judy
Rouse'
yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners]"


Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2017
5:58

pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht

Owners]
Aft

Cabin Air
Conditioning Tripping 220
Volt Panel Fuse & marina
To:
"amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"



Eric,
I would like to test
those capacitors...I think
that

they

might


charge when

power
goes to the control
unit. Of
course
his problem could be

anything,but I had his exact
problem and

changing out the


Compressor
RUN
Capacitor
(40uf) solved the
issue.

Bill
On Tue,
Jun 27,

2017 at 3:30 PM,
kimberlite@optonline.net


[amelyachtowners] wrote:
Bill,
when the
thermostat is in

the
neutral
position there is no AC
going
to

the
unit. Thus a bad
capacitor

would not make any
difference.

Fair
Winds,
Eric
-----
Original Message -----

From:
"'Bill & Judy
Rouse'
yahoogroups@svbebe.com

[amelyachtowners]"

Date:

Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:55 pm

Subject:
Re: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Aft Cabin Air

Conditioning
Tripping 220
Volt Panel
Fuse & marina
To:

"amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"

I
think Eric is right and I think
that the first
thing I

would
do is
replace the two capacitors
I

mentioned earlier.

Best,
Bill Rouse
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at
11:30

AM,
kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners] wrote:
Alexandre,

with the switch
In
neutral
position the AC unit is off.
I
would suspect a
short in the wiring
somewhere.

it

could be
anywhere.

Good
luck,

Eric

----- Original
Message
-----
From:
"Alexandre
Uster von Baar
uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners]">
Date:
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:25 am

Subject: Re:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Aft

Cabin
Air Conditioning
Tripping
220
Volt Panel Fuse
& marina
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
I run the
forward air conditioning without

problem.

As Eric
ask, I

switch on the Aft Air
Conditioning
with the
switch in
neutral position (neither cold
not

hot)

and


right away

the Ground Fault Interrupt
(GFI) breaker trip

(as well


as

the
marina).

What

does that tell you?

--------------------------------------------

On
Tue,

6/27/17,
kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners]

wrote:
Subject:
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]

Aft
Cabin Air Conditioning
Tripping

220 Volt Panel Fuse &
marina

To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 27,
2017,

9:10

AM
Alexandre,

there is

a switch and
thermostat by
each AC unit. when
the
switch is in neutral
position does
the
breaker still
trip?

if not does it trip
when the switch

is in
the heat
position?
To
discharge
the

capacitor take a wire

with
insulated
alligator clips

put
one clip on the body
of the pump or
case
and the other clip to a lug
of

the

capacitor.
Fair winds,
Eric
-----
Original
Message

-----
From:
"Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, June 27,
2017

7:55
am

Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht
Owners] Aft

Cabin Air
Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt

Panel Fuse &

marina
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Good
morning

John, Mark,
Eric and

Francisco and thank you for
your replies,
Based on what
you
wrote, I suspect a short and a

dead

compressor…
Going to test the Capacitors,
but how to

“discharge
them”
prior
to
testing?
Eric, I

did
not
really
understand
the:

“if
the AC switch is off

at the
thermostat
does it still trip the
breaker?”
Thanks in
advance,

sincerely,
Alexandre

--------------------------------------------

On

Mon,
6/26/17,

kimberlite@optonline.net

[amelyachtowners]
wrote:
Subject:
Re:
[Amel

Yacht
Owners] Aft Cabin Air
Conditioning

Tripping 220 Volt Panel
Fuse &

marina
To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date:
Monday,
June 26, 2017, 9:24
PM
Alexandre.
if the AC
switch
is
off at the

thermostat
does it
still
trip
the
breaker?
The
breaker on the AC panel side
is a
quick
blow

circuit breaker,
If
there is

a short
it will
trip

before the
diruptor.
If the AC is on at the
thermostat and
the circuit still trips the
breaker,
Check the

continuity of the compressor
to
ground. If

there is a short to
ground
the
compressor is
dead.
Fair

Winds,
Eric

sm 376

-----
Original

Message -----
From:
"Alexandre
Uster von

Baar
uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners]"
Date:
Monday,

June 26,
2017
5:19 pm
Subject: [Amel
Yacht

Owners] Aft
Cabin
Air
Conditioning
Tripping 220 Volt
Panel Fuse & marina
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Good

afternoon,
Today, I hear
the
fuse of the 220 Volt
Panel

tripping
(the
one
behind
the
panel).

I
found out
the
fuse of
the

marina also

trip.
After running
tests,
the cause is the
Aft

Cabin
Air

Conditioning
(which I
have been
using non

stop for 9
days).
Running
the salon does
not trip anything.
What could
be the
cause?

How to
diagnostic
and
solve the issue?

Did I use too much
the
air conditioning?
How come the
Diruptor
did not
trip, but the
220 Volt Panel did?
How come I trip
the

marina
fuse?
Thanks in
advance.
Sincerely,

Alexandre

SM2K
#289
NIKIMAT

Port de
Gustavia,
Saint

Barthélémy,

FWI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster issues

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

OK, since you are in le Marin, you should see Amel.

Bill Rouse

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

It was pinned on initial passage to Sint Maarten and then to Le Marin.  But now pin will not go in because shaft is too far up.  I pulled pin to use at Le Marin but did not notice rigging issues or dangling sensor.  Using it  with inoperable sensor and rigging out of alignment allowed unit to jam - I think.

Ben 

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:02 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Ben,

Was the bow thruster pinned in the UP position for the passage?

If it were me, I would go to Amel in le Marin for them to adjust. You may have burned up the actuator motor that lifts and lowers.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550







On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 7:54 AM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

After a particularly rough passage from Virgin Gorda to Sint Maarten, I noticed a good deal of water under floorboard outside forward head.  I know from  this forum that it was from thruster.  Thruster had been removed and serviced last October while on the hard and leaked not one drop.  In any event I used my Amel in the water tool to remove unit for inspection.  I found that both external foam gaskets were in place and not deformed as was inside gasket.  And shaft seal was firmly in place.  I re-installed  unit and proceeded to Le Marin - where I'm now berthed.  Again more water but now I think I know why. 


Apparently the clamp that holds sensor labeled "H" -which I believe controls upward stop position - broke.  (Sensor is hanging free by its connection). This cased thruster to move way too far up and then not far enough down which eventually mal adjust ed the rigging.  After using then thruster when  I arrived into Le marin the unit came up and stuck in the up position. It will now not move up or down.  Top cable is extremely tight pulling thruster to a point above safety pin hole so pin cannot be inserted.  Lower downward pull cable is extremely loose.  All this indicates rigging much out of alignment.  When I switch on the unit all three sensors - H, B, and SP - light up when switches are flipped but no movement.  


My question --- Is there a breaker or fuse on the up/down jack motor?  My control box and sensors have power but I cannot get motor movement down.  I need to get unit down some before I can proceed with rigging adjustment.  


I can of course go to Amel here in Le Marin. But I would like to better understand the thruster.  


Ben 


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita  

SM2 #347

Le Marin




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster issues

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Thanks Alex
Ben 

Ben and Gayle 
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Ben,

On my SM2K, and I am pretty sure on yours too, there is a fuse, it is in the little black box, pictures will help you:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_sensor.html

I hope this will solve your problem.
Remember (that in the event the sensors are not working) you can always control the up and down of the bow thruster from the forward cabin.
In short, switch off (like if you were sailing) the bow thruster (using the switch where you put the pin in).
Go to the cockpit and pick either up or down (depending on what you want).
Go back to the forward cabin, then activate the switch, now the bow thruster will go down and stop (using that switch) in the desired position.
Then go back to the cockpit and put everything in neutral.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Port de Gustavia, Saint Barthélémy, FWI

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 6/29/17, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster issues
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 7:54 AM


 









After a particularly rough passage
from Virgin Gorda to Sint Maarten, I noticed a good deal of
water under floorboard outside forward head.  I know from
 this forum that it was from thruster.  Thruster had been
removed and serviced last October while on the hard and
leaked not one drop.  In any event I used my Amel in the
water tool to remove unit for inspection.  I found that
both external foam gaskets were in place and not deformed as
was inside gasket.  And shaft seal was firmly in place.  I
re-installed  unit and proceeded to Le Marin - where
I'm now berthed.  Again more water but now I think I
know why. 
Apparently the clamp that
holds sensor labeled "H" -which I believe controls
upward stop position - broke.  (Sensor is hanging free by
its connection). This cased thruster to move way too far up
and then not far enough down which eventually mal adjusted
the rigging.  After using then thruster when  I arrived
into Le marin the unit came up and stuck in the up position.
It will now not move up or down.  Top cable is extremely
tight pulling thruster to a point above safety pin hole so
pin cannot be inserted.  Lower downward pull cable is
extremely loose.  All this indicates rigging much out of
alignment.  When I switch on the unit all three sensors -
H, B, and SP - light up when switches are flipped but no
movement.  
My question --- Is there a
breaker or fuse on the up/down jack motor?  My control
box and sensors have power but I cannot get motor movement
down.  I need to get unit down some before I can proceed
with rigging adjustment.  
I
can of course go to Amel here in Le Marin. But I would like
to better understand the thruster.  
Ben 
Ben
and Gayle La Bella Vita SM2 #347Le
Marin