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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
Hello Ian and Judy,
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I did as you for the dodgers… After a wet salt encrusted passage, I just open the plastic window above the eyebrow and presto… great visibility. Jean-Pierre Germain SY Eleuthera, SM 007
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Bill,
There is yet another solution......As I have written on this site in the past, having owned a Sharki , then a Maramu, both of which allowed me ( at 6 ft) to stand upright under their dodgers, we nearly didn't buy an SM because I couldn't come to terms with not being able to see forward from the helm except by getting a crick in my neck--to say nothing of not being able to see the mainsail properly. Having bought one and sailed for a number of years we took the plunge and lengthened the stainless supports by 10cm ( aft one), 10 cm ( middle) and 15cm ( forward ). We built a new Subrella top with a full width opening vinyl window. W o n d e r f u l....... I can now stand up under it, I can see forward without cricking my neck, I can see my sails, I can sit on the aft cabin roof and see forward, in close quarters I open the vinyl window and stand with my head free. When we pack up the boat we take the Subrella off and the three stainless pieces still fold into the groove on the hard dodger. Nothing has improved our enjoyment of Pen Azen quite as much. Oh, and when the perspex gets all salty we just open the zipper on the vinyl window a tad and spray down with the cockpit hose without having to change our slippers to go on deck!
Do think about it. I have never understood why Amel didn't do this from the off...except that the wonderful Capt Amel was only a short guy ( and very stubborn ! )
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Frejus, France
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 03 May 2017 01:30:41 To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt And fine words they are....
It of course it is not completely logical to be concerned about using water that would take about 90 seconds of watermaker time to replace. I guess I will have to have something else to be illogical about!
Bill Kinney
SM160 Harmonie
Great St James Is, USVI
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fixing/replacing copper on holding tank
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Steve, See the attached photo. I do not have any other information. The black rings are O rings and it is inserted into the existing copper pipe. This was custom made by another owner. You will have to get this fabricated in a machine shop. I would use Delrin rather than Nylon. If you do this, please record the dimensions for everyone. And, at some point someone was probably cleaning out the toilet output with a caustic chemical...don't do that because this can happen. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On May 2, 2017 19:17, "steve_morrison@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Yep, wash it with fresh water. No other way. A silicone squeegee will add finishing touches. CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On May 3, 2017 05:55, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
We run the water maker to make sure the tank is almost full..i.e. about 900 litres
When on passages we regularly hose down the screens and the furler gearboxes and other gear to wash the salt off. Even with 600W of solar and a wind generator, we are regularly running the Onan, and every time it is on, the water maker is on. If we need to motor for more than an hour, the water maker is on. As long as everything is working as it should be, we have heaps of fresh water and we don't worry about using it ! Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
eric freedman
With a little applied to a buffing machine it does wonders on ports and windows. Do not apply much pressure , just a gentle pass over will remove most scratches.
Or google plastic watch crystal scratch remover, it is available from many companies worldwide.
Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:03 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
Mark Hanna, who owns Sharki #49 Marguerite, suggested to use “tooth paste” to remove scratches from the windshield and it worked very well for me!
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
greatketch@...
And fine words they are....
It of course it is not completely logical to be concerned about using water that would take about 90 seconds of watermaker time to replace. I guess I will have to have something else to be illogical about! Bill Kinney SM160 Harmonie Great St James Is, USVI
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Fixing/replacing copper on holding tank
steve_morrison@...
Let me begin with a thank you to Kent, Bill K., Dan & Lori, Colin, John C., and Jean -Piere for their thoughtful responses to my previous question about Dinghy choices. I must admit I am not sure how best to thank individuals for their input as it would seem to greatly increase the number of posts that we all get if I do it one at a time through the group conversation, though at the same time I don't want it to seem I am ungrateful for their time and input, for truly I am grateful. As for the Copper stub at the bottom of the holding tank... Searching for the source of head related fluids beneath the aft cabin head, I discovered that I have a pea sized hole at the back of the copper stub where the copper grounding wire was clamped and also that the stainless hose clamp on the white flex tubing had been eaten through and only appeared to be doing its job from the front. The wall of the copper stub is so thin that I can make it deflect with only slight pressure, though given that the back side has a piece missing, that hardly seems a concern any longer. So my question is, what do I do about it? How do I replace the copper tubing that appears to be firmly glassed in place? What should I replace it with?, and how do I better bond the copper grounding wire? Thanks in advance for the time and thought that you all put into the group. All the best, Steve Morrison SM #380 TouRai Brunswick, GA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
I also have used toothpaste with good results on hatch plexi. And the added benefit is the boat has a nice minty fresh smell afterward.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currenlty cruising – Puerto Rico www.creampuff.us
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amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Mark Hanna, who owns Sharki #49 Marguerite,
suggested to use “tooth paste” to remove scratches from the windshield and it
worked very well for me!
On Tue, 5/2/17, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 10:49 AM Hello Bill, I tried RainX with mixed results…. now I use lots of fresh water from the cockpit hose (to which I’ve added at least 4 meter extension) then gently hand rub the remaining crystals. My windscreens became scratched but I restored them with a mild abrasive from Meguiars… ScratchX… If we could just remove all salt from the oceans, we’d have a good solution… Jean-Pierre GermainSY Eleuthera, SM 007 On 2 May 2017, at 11:18, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: How ever you solve it. The most important is that you use a LOT of water to rinse the salt crystals away. They make terrible scratches on the windows. We have a window cleaner with sponge and rubber, on a long stick. But the most effective way is to send someone out with a bucket, sponge and sore skin to wipe it clean. /Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998 Skickades från E-post för Windows 10 Från: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] Skickat: den 2 maj 2017 15:30 Till: amelyachtowners@... Ämne: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt Harmonie is the first boat I have sailed where the primary view from the helm forward is in under the dodger and through the windows. I do love the arrangement. The canvas part of our dodger easily folds down in 5 seconds, instantly transforming the cockpit's "look and feel". It comes down on a quiet night sail to enjoy the stars, or when we are in a close quarters situation so I can stand and see all round. But sometimes.... I am sure everyone here recognizes this scenario: A beautiful sailing day, on a close reach or beat. It is sunny and warm. Every few minutes a light spray is thrown up by the bow. The only problem is whatever water hits the windscreen evaporates in a few seconds, leaving salt behind. Within a half hour, you can't see ANYTHING. Anybody have a favorite technique for reducing the problem short of sending crew out on deck hosing down with fresh water every 15 minutes? We have had some very limited success with the Rain-X formulation specifically for plastic helping the water to run off, but not great. Bill KinneySM#160, HarmonieGreater St James Is, USVI.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
Hello Bill,
I agree with Joel; was about to use the same words… :-) Jean-Pierre Germain SY Eleuthera, SM007
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
amelforme
Not being able to see where you are going will leave you worse than puckered, Willy! Use the fresh water. Make some more... Joel F. Potter THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954-812-2485
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
greatketch@...
My problem is that I find it very hard to just spray fresh water on deck and let it run into the ocean... Leaves me all anxious and puckered.
Old conservation habits die hard! Bill Kinney SM#160 Harmonie Greater St James Is, USVI
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
John Clark
Ahh but how to choose the one to carry the bucket and sponge? ;)
On May 2, 2017 11:18 AM, "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Mark Hanna, who owns Sharki #49 Marguerite, suggested to use “tooth paste” to remove scratches from the windshield and it worked very well for me!
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Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 5/2/17, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@xs4all.nl [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 10:49 AM Hello Bill, I tried RainX with mixed results…. now I use lots of fresh water from the cockpit hose (to which I’ve added at least 4 meter extension) then gently hand rub the remaining crystals. My windscreens became scratched but I restored them with a mild abrasive from Meguiars… ScratchX… If we could just remove all salt from the oceans, we’d have a good solution… Jean-Pierre GermainSY Eleuthera, SM 007 On 2 May 2017, at 11:18, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@hotmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: How ever you solve it. The most important is that you use a LOT of water to rinse the salt crystals away. They make terrible scratches on the windows. We have a window cleaner with sponge and rubber, on a long stick. But the most effective way is to send someone out with a bucket, sponge and sore skin to wipe it clean. /Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998 Skickades från E-post för Windows 10 Från: greatketch@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] Skickat: den 2 maj 2017 15:30 Till: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Ämne: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt Harmonie is the first boat I have sailed where the primary view from the helm forward is in under the dodger and through the windows. I do love the arrangement. The canvas part of our dodger easily folds down in 5 seconds, instantly transforming the cockpit's "look and feel". It comes down on a quiet night sail to enjoy the stars, or when we are in a close quarters situation so I can stand and see all round. But sometimes.... I am sure everyone here recognizes this scenario: A beautiful sailing day, on a close reach or beat. It is sunny and warm. Every few minutes a light spray is thrown up by the bow. The only problem is whatever water hits the windscreen evaporates in a few seconds, leaving salt behind. Within a half hour, you can't see ANYTHING. Anybody have a favorite technique for reducing the problem short of sending crew out on deck hosing down with fresh water every 15 minutes? We have had some very limited success with the Rain-X formulation specifically for plastic helping the water to run off, but not great. Bill KinneySM#160, HarmonieGreater St James Is, USVI.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
Hello Bill,
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I tried RainX with mixed results…. now I use lots of fresh water from the cockpit hose (to which I’ve added at least 4 meter extension) then gently hand rub the remaining crystals. My windscreens became scratched but I restored them with a mild abrasive from Meguiars… ScratchX… If we could just remove all salt from the oceans, we’d have a good solution… Jean-Pierre Germain SY Eleuthera, SM 007
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
amelforme
I use PLEXUS plastic cleaner preservative. Seals all clear plastic and makes it easier to flush salt, bird giftings, and dirt from the dodger without scratching it. Great stuff. Expensive as great stuff usually is. If you are limber, cockpit shower hose but better the high pressure cockpit hose if so equipped through the partially opened opening in port side dodger "window" to rinse salt off, if you have used Plexus or your favorite similar product. Joel F. Potter THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954-812-2485
On May 2, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
How ever you solve it. The most important is that you use a LOT of water to rinse the salt crystals away. They make terrible scratches on the windows. We have a window cleaner with sponge and rubber, on a long stick. But the most effective way is to send someone out with a bucket, sponge and sore skin to wipe it clean.
/Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998
Skickades från E-post för Windows 10
Från: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
Harmonie is the first boat I have sailed where the primary view from the helm forward is in under the dodger and through the windows. I do love the arrangement. The canvas part of our dodger easily folds down in 5 seconds, instantly transforming the cockpit's "look and feel". It comes down on a quiet night sail to enjoy the stars, or when we are in a close quarters situation so I can stand and see all round. But sometimes....
I am sure everyone here recognizes this scenario: A beautiful sailing day, on a close reach or beat. It is sunny and warm. Every few minutes a light spray is thrown up by the bow. The only problem is whatever water hits the windscreen evaporates in a few seconds, leaving salt behind. Within a half hour, you can't see ANYTHING.
Anybody have a favorite technique for reducing the problem short of sending crew out on deck hosing down with fresh water every 15 minutes? We have had some very limited success with the Rain-X formulation specifically for plastic helping the water to run off, but not great.
Bill Kinney SM#160, Harmonie Greater St James Is, USVI.
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Insurance
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting insurance for an Amel 54 and was wondering what owners were paying for this coverage for a 54. I read the older posts about pros and cons of different policies and coverages but was looking for a ball park figure.
Thank you for your replies
Courtney Gorman
future s/v Trippin'
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windscreen Salt
John Clark
Hi Bill, the previous owners of my boat fabricated a sponge on a stick apparatus for wiping the glass from inside the cockpit. Not glamorous i agree, but is helps. I am experimenting with the Starbright polish with the PTFE additive. Will let you know. Regards, John Vent de Soleil SM 37 Great Bay, St. Maarten
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Windscreen Salt
greatketch@...
Harmonie is the first boat I have sailed where the primary view from the helm forward is in under the dodger and through the windows. I do love the arrangement. The canvas part of our dodger easily folds down in 5 seconds, instantly transforming the cockpit's "look and feel". It comes down on a quiet night sail to enjoy the stars, or when we are in a close quarters situation so I can stand and see all round. But sometimes.... I am sure everyone here recognizes this scenario: A beautiful sailing day, on a close reach or beat. It is sunny and warm. Every few minutes a light spray is thrown up by the bow. The only problem is whatever water hits the windscreen evaporates in a few seconds, leaving salt behind. Within a half hour, you can't see ANYTHING. Anybody have a favorite technique for reducing the problem short of sending crew out on deck hosing down with fresh water every 15 minutes? We have had some very limited success with the Rain-X formulation specifically for plastic helping the water to run off, but not great. Bill Kinney SM#160, Harmonie Greater St James Is, USVI.
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