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Re: Fresh Water Pump

Martin Birkhoff
 

Hi Ian,
in July 2018 we replaced the failing fresh water pump to a Marco UP6 25 PSI. Since then it is working without any problems and there is sufficient pressure on all tabs and outlets (dish washer, washing machine, showers including the stern shower).

Martin Birkhoff

Mago del Sur - 54#40


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Karen Smith
 

I know it violates your stated desire for a diaphragm pump, but I think the Marco gear pumps are the cat's meow.  I think you'd be happy with a #3 or a #6.

They are simple, robust, quiet, and very compact with continuously variable speed so supply pressure is constant.  We have had one for almost 5 years, and haven't needed to work on it yet.  A spare parts kit of a shaft seal, motor brushes, and a few gears and they should go almost forever.

I personally would not go to a 55 PSI pump.  That is just an invitation to waste water.  We are very happy with a steady 25PSI.  

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Thomas Kleman
 

We have the aqua king 2 and love it. Good pressure with both showers going. Very reliable in that we've been full time live-aboards for 10 years and I've replaced it once.......with a spare I seemed to acquire in 2012.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422


Re: Bilge pump activation switch

 

CorrosionX is a sailor's best friend! I could tell you dozens of similar stories. If you own an Amel and do not have one of these, you will spend a lot more money than those who do have one of these:
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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 2:21 PM rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@...> wrote:

A related recommendation (may be helpful to others in future searches).  Our bilge pump activation switch began to fail, staying on even after the cord pulled the switch down and into the off position.  This was gradual, at first fixed by simply cycling the switch but finally just staying on.  I ordered a replacement assembly from Amel. In the meantime as a stopgap measure I shot Corrosion-X into the switch (after removing the sump tube and switch so I could work with it on the dock holding it in different positions).  I collected a great deal of black residue in paper towels and continued sprays until I had no residue.  Replacement switch came a week later but switch was working just fine.  It has now been about 5 years.  I squirt Corrosion-X into the switch periodically, including the contacts. I would encourage anyone cleaning the tube to conduct the same procedure until the residue is clear.

Bob KAIMI SM2K 429 

Vice-President, Corrosion-X Consumer Advisory Council of North America
Director, Amel Institute of Low Technology


Re: Bilge pump activation switch

rossirossix4
 
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A related recommendation (may be helpful to others in future searches).  Our bilge pump activation switch began to fail, staying on even after the cord pulled the switch down and into the off position.  This was gradual, at first fixed by simply cycling the switch but finally just staying on.  I ordered a replacement assembly from Amel. In the meantime as a stopgap measure I shot Corrosion-X into the switch (after removing the sump tube and switch so I could work with it on the dock holding it in different positions).  I collected a great deal of black residue in paper towels and continued sprays until I had no residue.  Replacement switch came a week later but switch was working just fine so we just kept the new part as a spare.  It has now been about 5 years.  I squirt Corrosion-X into the switch periodically, including the contacts. I would encourage anyone cleaning the tube to conduct the same procedure until the residue is clear.

Bob KAIMI SM2K 429 

Vice-President, Corrosion-X Consumer Advisory Council of North America
Director, Amel Institute of Low Technology


Re: Main outhaul travller

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Nick, if I understand you correctly the cracked part is the curved piece that carries the balls around the end. I had the same and the replacement car was expensive so almost for the fun of trying I made a replacement from aluminium plate. Tools. Hacksaw, bench grinder, vice and rat tail (round) file, half moon file. And of course a drill. Successful but I would have hated to pay myself for the hours it took. Good result and a long term fix. Reloading the car onto the track requires a short section of track to pre load the balls. Then butt this up to the track and feed it on. I couldnt source a short piece of track easily so I formed one out of wood. Some of the little balls were damaged so I replaced them all

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl



On 17 January 2021 at 10:18 "Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io" <svrascal@...> wrote:

Hi, I have a broken shackle on the main outhaul car . The bar across the middle of the shackle is broken. When taking it apart today I noticed that there was a crack on one of the end pieces, close to the philips screw, which seems to be more than just cosmetic.

Anyone know whether its possible to replace a) the shackle and b) this small grey "end piece"

I have had a look on the Antel website to see if I could find a part numbers but looking at ANTAL's website http://www.antal.it/eng/4110SH_en , using the correct part number, which  I believe to be Model #4110/SH, the car looks very different from the one on my boom, so I guess it has been updated. If this is the case, any ideas where I can try and source these small parts, I have tried Defender, ebay and a few other searches but to no avail. 

thanks


Re: Main outhaul travller

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Nick. If I understand you correctlt th

On 17 January 2021 at 10:18 "Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io" <svrascal@...> wrote:

Hi, I have a broken shackle on the main outhaul car . The bar across the middle of the shackle is broken. When taking it apart today I noticed that there was a crack on one of the end pieces, close to the philips screw, which seems to be more than just cosmetic.

Anyone know whether its possible to replace a) the shackle and b) this small grey "end piece"

I have had a look on the Antel website to see if I could find a part numbers but looking at ANTAL's website http://www.antal.it/eng/4110SH_en , using the correct part number, which  I believe to be Model #4110/SH, the car looks very different from the one on my boom, so I guess it has been updated. If this is the case, any ideas where I can try and source these small parts, I have tried Defender, ebay and a few other searches but to no avail. 

thanks


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Gary Wells
 

I don't think I'd go with 55psi.  I've had both 25psi and 40psi ParMax 4's on board for the past seven years.  
They are not super-long lived (but then again, they get ~lots~ of hours on them) and they don't like continuous duty (definitely not for 15 minutes straight).
Having said that, I can certainly recommend them because they are widely available, relatively inexpensive and a breeze to swap out with those snap fittings.

The 25psi experienced some notable flow rate drop when using more than one day faucet, but the 40psi model remains pretty steady in the shower with the washing machine going and another tap in use. 

Gary W.
former owner and still Loving it :) 


Re: Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

 

I think that Olivier's reply is much like a reply from other highly experienced people. Most people with many years of  experience have a small percentage of experience with Lithium and will offer advice based on their vast experience, which is what we should want from a highly experienced person. Additionally, almost all of us group all lithium solutions into one category. When the question was posed to Olivier, it was a "lithium" question, rather than a specific lithium battery type or chemistry. I really appreciate a highly experienced reply to a question. 

Regarding the weight discussion, I will add that I believe as you add and use freshwater on your 55, you may redistribute weight more than changing your batteries from AGM to lithium. It could possibly be significant if you plan to compete in a race.

I also believe that the choice of changing to lithium is a choice that is made more on assuming certain risks than based on tried and true experience. History has many examples of risk-takers proving new technology, as well as risk-takers making fatal mistakes. 

I will also add that I believe statically there is not enough data and experience to predict the safety and effectiveness of any lithium solution, therefore a lithium solution requires assuming certain risks.

I hope my non-answer makes some sense. I also hope that this does not turn into another 80 post debate as we have seen before on this subject. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 7:33 AM Billy Newport <billy@...> wrote:
Do you think using lithiums and lowering the weight down there from the factory agms to half impacts the boat stability? It seems like it would reduce ballast, no? When he mentioned using fewer than 12 batteries, I thought that's where he would go.


Re: Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

Billy Newport
 

Do you think using lithiums and lowering the weight down there from the factory agms to half impacts the boat stability? It seems like it would reduce ballast, no? When he mentioned using fewer than 12 batteries, I thought that's where he would go.


Re: Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

Alain Blanchard
 

Thank you Bill 

I missed the meeting. My boat was surveyed by Olivier last October but I pretty sure that I will learn again looking at the video 

Regards Alain
SM 146 Koriolys / Gruissan (France)

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 17 janv. 2021 à 11:35, Alexander Schenk via groups.io <schenkschierloh@...> a écrit :

 Many thanks, I unfortunately did miss it (but Oliver surveyed our boat so I probably got the lecture already live..) 

Thanks for organizing these meetings.
Stay safe,
Alexander
SY Antinea
SM #231


On 17 Jan 2021, at 09:24, James Alton via groups.io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:


Bill,

Thanks a lot for passing along the link I will definitely listen to the recording.  Thanks for all of your efforts to help Amel owners,  much appreciated.

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2021 9:21 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

If you missed the meeting, try this link to play a recording of the meeting. 
https://youtu.be/c26xpu51mMY


Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


Re: Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

Alexander Schenk
 

Many thanks, I unfortunately did miss it (but Oliver surveyed our boat so I probably got the lecture already live..) 

Thanks for organizing these meetings.
Stay safe,
Alexander
SY Antinea
SM #231


On 17 Jan 2021, at 09:24, James Alton via groups.io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:


Bill,

Thanks a lot for passing along the link I will definitely listen to the recording.  Thanks for all of your efforts to help Amel owners,  much appreciated.

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2021 9:21 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

If you missed the meeting, try this link to play a recording of the meeting. 
https://youtu.be/c26xpu51mMY


Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


Re: Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

James Alton
 

Bill,

Thanks a lot for passing along the link I will definitely listen to the recording.  Thanks for all of your efforts to help Amel owners,  much appreciated.

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2021 9:21 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

If you missed the meeting, try this link to play a recording of the meeting. 
https://youtu.be/c26xpu51mMY


Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

 

If you missed the meeting, try this link to play a recording of the meeting. 
https://youtu.be/c26xpu51mMY


Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


Re: Bilge pump activation switch

karkauai
 

I took a piece of copper tubing just big enough to fit over the switch toggle, and crimped it with a pair of pliers. I flattened the other end and drilled a hole through it to attach the float string. It has worked flawlessly for 7 years. Not pretty, but heck, it's in the bilge and it works.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Main outhaul travller

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal
 

Many thanks Bill,

will walk over there on monday 

regds


Re: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Sat, 01/16/2021 #cal-notice

 

I don't know if you were in the meeting during the overtime portion, but Olivier agreed to come back in 4-6 months for an Amel Question/Answer session. We will figure out a way to get questions in advance of that meeting so that we can make the best use of time.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 3:52 PM Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:
Awesome discussion! Thank you to all for putting this together. Incredibly informative!

Cheers!
Brian


Re: Main outhaul travller

 

Nick,

I think you are referring to the main boom outhaul shackle. This shackle is one that was modified by Amel, is available from Amel, and if you go see David Waters in his shop there in Antigua, he can repair yours or make you a new one.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 3:18 PM Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi, I have a broken shackle on the main outhaul car . The bar across the middle of the shackle is broken. When taking it apart today I noticed that there was a crack on one of the end pieces, close to the philips screw, which seems to be more than just cosmetic.

Anyone know whether its possible to replace a) the shackle and b) this small grey "end piece"

I have had a look on the Antel website to see if I could find a part numbers but looking at ANTAL's website http://www.antal.it/eng/4110SH_en , using the correct part number, which  I believe to be Model #4110/SH, the car looks very different from the one on my boom, so I guess it has been updated. If this is the case, any ideas where I can try and source these small parts, I have tried Defender, ebay and a few other searches but to no avail. 

thanks


Re: Main outhaul car

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal
 

Apologies, title should of course read Main Outhaul car and not traveller!!!


Re: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Sat, 01/16/2021 #cal-notice

Brian Riggs
 

Awesome discussion! Thank you to all for putting this together. Incredibly informative!

Cheers!
Brian

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