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Re: amel super marameu

mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...
 

Hi we have looked at Santorin, there are one or two well priced in France
Please send me more info and pics please.
Regards
Steve


Re: amel super marameu

mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...
 

Hi Alexandre,
                     We are in SA, the fact that we intend to sail in several countries vat paid is not a major issue.
We jsut looked an Amel vat unpaid in the carribean very well priced but we just missed out on that one the couple had been sailing for 10 yrs.
But thanks for the heads up always good to have advice.
Regards
Steve


Re: amel super marameu

mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...
 

Hi Sorry for the currency slip up, we are looking at Euro's .


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 fresh water tank connections

Barry Connor
 

Hi Mohammed,
Yes, we have the original fittings on the fresh water pressure pump.
Olivier said to always where possible keep everything original, what you think might not mean much can change something else.
We did though change the A/C cooling pump when Hyeres were out of stock, we got a 230v Marsh magnetic drive unit from Florida, it is silent works OK so far and does not get hot. I am looking at changing the 12v Surflow refrigeration cooling pumps with a 12v Marsh magnetic pump. I will make sure the A/C pump is OK first. These magnetic Marsh pumps do not have a drive shaft that could leak. I could only find them in US not available in EU.
Regards

Barry and Penny
AMEL 54 #16
"Lady Penelope II"
Marina Di Ragusa
Sicily


On Oct 11, 2016, at 3:41 PM, mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Barry. The pictures will definitely help. We also had to replace the rubber bladder (purchased in Lesvos Greece) and the pressure switch (purchased in Turkey), The replacement was not a difficult task, but the removal and replacement caused the tapped fitting to be stripped. The fitting that you have seems the same as ours. So maybe my assumption that this was a replacement fitting was incorrect.


Thanks Again
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


Re: Amel 54 fresh water tank connections

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thank you Barry. The pictures will definitely help. We also had to replace the rubber bladder (purchased in Lesvos Greece) and the pressure switch (purchased in Turkey), The replacement was not a difficult task, but the removal and replacement caused the tapped fitting to be stripped. The fitting that you have seems the same as ours. So maybe my assumption that this was a replacement fitting was incorrect.

Thanks Again
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rebedding original handrails

Craig Briggs
 

James,
  I believe David is saying that the handrail bolts go into a steel (iron) threaded plate that is embedded in the fiberglass deck.  No bolts are involved. Amel used this technique in many ares, like the engine room hatch cover hinges and pneumatic piston mounts, the bases of many of the stancions, etc. 
  The problem is that if there is water ingress, the rust you see may be from the embedded iron starting to deteriorate and "bloom". That will eventually cause the fiberglass to expand with the surface bulging out or even opening up - I recall Bebe Bill and others had this issue with the engine room hatch cover at the piston mounts.  I had it with a stern stancion actually cracking the cap rail structure open;  
  So, preventive/corrective maintenance would be to remove the bolts, passivate the rusting internal plate, and "permanently" seal the bolts on reinstallation.  Depending on the degree of deterioration of the backing plate you may want to remove and replace it, although you'll have a challenging fiberglass repair job. Alternatively, one can drill out the rusted plate a good distance around the bolt hole, fill will epoxy (like JB Weld) and retap the threads.
  Having said that, you may just have some minor surface rust coming from the stainless hand rail base, that is of little concern and easily cleaned up.
Cheer, Craig, SN68 Sangaris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel repair: Now or later?

Mark Pitt
 

Bill and Joel,

  Thanks for the reply.  Yes, the iron itself seems dented.  I cannot detect any other issue associated with this incident except my nightmarish recollection of the terrible noise that resulted when I steered the boat I love into an underwater rock at about 3 knots.

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Isola San Pietro, Italy


On 10/11/2016 1:37 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Mark,

I think it is probably impossible for someone to assess your situation without an inspection and the expertise to evaluate the entire situation, but I will offer a non-expert comment.

The best thing about the keel on Amels is that it is cast iron. From what I have seen, cast iron will oxidize in saltwater and the oxidation will partially and temporarily seal the iron...but saltwater will continue to slowly creep under the epoxy and cause the area of oxidation to increase. From what I have seen, I think a delay of 6 months to recoat the cast iron with epoxy is not an issue. I do wonder if the iron itself is dented?

But, let me further comment. Recently, at Peakes in Trinidad, I saw an X Yacht (55-60') which had hit something with its epoxy encapsulated lead keel. Not only was the keel deformed, and epoxy cracked, but the lead was also cracked in the center and back edge of the keel. I assume that the back edge cracked because of compression from the front collision. I could not believe that the owner had only the epoxy repaired over the cracks in the lead. I hope that there is not a plan to sell this boat to new owners.

Epoxy-coated cast iron is sometimes criticized by non-Amel owners because of it will oxidize when the epoxy is cracked. This is true about our keels, but an epoxy encapsulated lead keel will deform, crack and possibly have disastrous consequences. Thank you Henri Amel for your knowledge and your choice of cast iron.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 6:59 AM, mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I hit a rock and put a small-ish dent on the front of the iron keel.  It seems to have broken through the epoxy and exposed the iron in a 6 inch by 2 inch  (15 cm by 5 cm)  section.  My question is whether I need to have this repaired now or can I wait until Spring when the boat is due to be hauled for a new anti-fouling,


Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Isola San Pietro, Italy





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel repair: Now or later?

amelforme
 

Hi Mark. Based on closely examining hundreds of AMEL keels during the haul out for marine survey during the sales process, I have rarely seen a keel where the coatings were completely intact. In a perfect world, it is always best to fix anything as soon as possible. In this case, you might have a slight increase of the size of repair, but negligible loss of metal through oxidation. Remember, on iron, the rate of ‘bloom’ to metal loss is about 40/1. While the keel might look scary when you haul, it can be repaired in the spring without real consequence.

 

Have Fun With Your Amel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

.

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel repair: Now or later?

 

 

I hit a rock and put a small-ish dent on the front of the iron keel.  It seems to have broken through the epoxy and exposed the iron in a 6 inch by 2 inch  (15 cm by 5 cm)  section.  My question is whether I need to have this repaired now or can I wait until Spring when the boat is due to be hauled for a new anti-fouling,

 

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Isola San Pietro, Italy

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel repair: Now or later?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

I think it is probably impossible for someone to assess your situation without an inspection and the expertise to evaluate the entire situation, but I will offer a non-expert comment.

The best thing about the keel on Amels is that it is cast iron. From what I have seen, cast iron will oxidize in saltwater and the oxidation will partially and temporarily seal the iron...but saltwater will continue to slowly creep under the epoxy and cause the area of oxidation to increase. From what I have seen, I think a delay of 6 months to recoat the cast iron with epoxy is not an issue. I do wonder if the iron itself is dented?

But, let me further comment. Recently, at Peakes in Trinidad, I saw an X Yacht (55-60') which had hit something with its epoxy encapsulated lead keel. Not only was the keel deformed, and epoxy cracked, but the lead was also cracked in the center and back edge of the keel. I assume that the back edge cracked because of compression from the front collision. I could not believe that the owner had only the epoxy repaired over the cracks in the lead. I hope that there is not a plan to sell this boat to new owners.

Epoxy-coated cast iron is sometimes criticized by non-Amel owners because of it will oxidize when the epoxy is cracked. This is true about our keels, but an epoxy encapsulated lead keel will deform, crack and possibly have disastrous consequences. Thank you Henri Amel for your knowledge and your choice of cast iron.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 6:59 AM, mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I hit a rock and put a small-ish dent on the front of the iron keel.  It seems to have broken through the epoxy and exposed the iron in a 6 inch by 2 inch  (15 cm by 5 cm)  section.  My question is whether I need to have this repaired now or can I wait until Spring when the boat is due to be hauled for a new anti-fouling,


Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Isola San Pietro, Italy




Keel repair: Now or later?

Mark Pitt
 

I hit a rock and put a small-ish dent on the front of the iron keel.  It seems to have broken through the epoxy and exposed the iron in a 6 inch by 2 inch  (15 cm by 5 cm)  section.  My question is whether I need to have this repaired now or can I wait until Spring when the boat is due to be hauled for a new anti-fouling,


Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Isola San Pietro, Italy



Amel 54 fresh water tank connections

Barry Connor
 

Hi Mohammed,
I hope that these photos of the pressure switch and indicator gauge help you.
We have just had the rubber inside tank bladder and pressure switch replaced at AMEL Hyeres.
They set the tank pressure for the rubber bladder at 1.8bar.
Best Regards
Barry and Penny
AMEL 54 #16
Marina Di Ragusa. Sicily


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Here is the vetus switch Windlass switch

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Do make sure that the threaded section is long enough to reach through the hole in the Lofrans. 4 years ago  Amel in Hyeres gave us two but they were too short.


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hyeres


From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: 11 October 2016 02:28:12
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Here is the vetus switch Windlass switch
 

 

 

I hope the photo comes through. It is exactly what Amel used.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

Regards,

 

 

David Barrett

Technical Support/Customer Service

 

 

From: sailormon [mailto:kimberlite@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:02 PM
To: David Barrett
Subject: RE: Engine mount

 

Hi David,

I purchased a few large push button switches from Vetus a few years ago.

They were about ¾ of an inch in diameter and had a black rubber cap.

Are they in the catalog?

Thanks

Eric

rinting this e-mail.


[Amel Yacht Owners] Here is the vetus switch Windlass switch

eric freedman
 

 

 

I hope the photo comes through. It is exactly what Amel used.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

Regards,

 

 

David Barrett

Technical Support/Customer Service

 

 

From: sailormon [mailto:kimberlite@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:02 PM
To: David Barrett
Subject: RE: Engine mount

 

Hi David,

I purchased a few large push button switches from Vetus a few years ago.

They were about ¾ of an inch in diameter and had a black rubber cap.

Are they in the catalog?

Thanks

Eric

rinting this e-mail.


Here is the vetus switch Windlass switch

eric freedman
 

I hope the photo comes through. It is exactly what Amel used.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: David Barrett [mailto:DBarrett@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:46 PM
To: sailormon
Subject: RE: Windlass switch

 

$52.  List              

 

Regards,

 

 

David Barrett

Technical Support/Customer Service

 

 

From: sailormon [mailto:kimberlite@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:21 PM
To: David Barrett
Subject: RE: Windlass switch

 

Thanks Dave,

What is the list price?

I will order a few from a distributor.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: David Barrett [mailto:DBarrett@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:55 AM
To: sailormon
Subject: RE: Windlass switch

 

It does not appear to be in the catalog any longer, so it may be a product slowly on its way out.  It was largely a Vetus windlass product, and with the changeover to Maxwell branded windlasses for the past 6 or so years, I can understand why it might be de-emphasized or discontinued.

 

We do currently have stock here in the States – I suspect this availability will diminish in the not too distant future.

 

Regards,

 

 

David Barrett

Technical Support/Customer Service

 

 

From: sailormon [mailto:kimberlite@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:42 PM
To: David Barrett
Subject: Windlass switch

 

Hi David,

That’s the one .

What page is it on in the catalog?

Thanks

Eric

 

 

From: David Barrett [mailto:DBarrett@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:54 PM
To: sailormon
Subject: RE: Engine mount

 

Eric-

 

Try AFSTPB.  These could be for a windlass or a thruster.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

David Barrett

Technical Support/Customer Service

 

 

From: sailormon [mailto:kimberlite@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:02 PM
To: David Barrett
Subject: RE: Engine mount

 

Hi David,

I purchased a few large push button switches from Vetus a few years ago.

They were about ¾ of an inch in diameter and had a black rubber cap.

Are they in the catalog?

Thanks

Eric

rinting this e-mail.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Windless rubber caps for control button

Mark Erdos
 

Bill,

 

Thanks for all the help!!!!

 

 

Everyone,

 

I ordered one and will let you know if it fits, or not.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:53 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Windless rubber caps for control button

 

 

Mark and everyone else,

 

Check this out on eBay.

I think this is the same plastic momentary switch that is at Budget Marine. It is US $6.99 with free US shipping:

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Mark,

I believe that you can replace each of the push button momentarily ON switches with something similar if you cannot find the rubber covers. I have seen these in several marine chandlery shops.

I will be in Budget Marine In Trinidad tomorrow and will check the size of their item AAA/10206 and AAA/10208 which appears to be an exact replacement.

http://www.budgetmarine.com/Catalog/Electrical/Switches+þ+Relays/Switches/Push+Buttons+-+Momentary/Product.aspx#.V_ptLWVOloN

I'll let you know.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

On Oct 9, 2016 10:51 AM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I was recently told by Maud that Amel no longer stocks the rubber covers for the Amel modified windless. They do have another option but are out of stock and I must purchase the entire kit including the electronics.

 

Does anyone have a source for these rubber covers (preferably in the USA). Click the link below for a picture:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w85b415wnpurmte/Picture%204.jpg?dl=0

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Connector at the water pressure Tank

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

You have a pipe “elbow” that for some strange reason was drilled and tapped to turn it into a pipe cross.  As you discovered, this is not a good idea. 

You need a real standard pipe “cross” and a reducing bushing or two to fit the pressure gauge, pressure switch, and tubing fitting.  It could also be done with two tees if a cross is hard to find. Two “tees” might also give you some flexibility in orientation that will make things easy to assemble.

This isn’t something you need to go to Amel for.  Brass or PVC would be suitable choices for material and your corner hardware store will likely have the parts.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Oct 10, 2016, at 17:44, mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Bill;


Here's a link to the photo I just uploaded. This is the existing "non-factory" fitting that is currently installed adn needs to be replaced.





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Connector at the water pressure Tank

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Yes, it looks modified, but I cannot tell for sure because I have the AMFA 66B, which is different from what you have.

Hopefully someone else has your model.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Oct 10, 2016 5:45 PM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill;


Here's a link to the photo I just uploaded. This is the existing "non-factory" fitting that is currently installed adn needs to be replaced.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Connector at the water pressure Tank

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Bill;

Yes I did. This was my first picture upload which I did under a new folder. I did post a link as well. Are you able to see it?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Connector at the water pressure Tank

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mohammad,

Did you upload:
Fitting at water pressure tank Amel 54
Updated on 12:43 AM by mshirloo
Fitting at water pressure tank Amel 54 

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:40 PM, mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill for the prompt response, as always.


The main issue I currently have, is the brass fitting at the supply side of the water pressure tank. Some one has just taken a 90 degree brass fitting, drilled two holes on the sides and tapped the brass fitting in order to attach the water pressure gauge and the water pressure switch. As you can imagine, the thickness on the side of this fitting only allows for two or three turns to be tapped which have now stripped.

I do have a marked up picture of the existing that I have e-mailed to Amel. I had also downloaded the picture you had posted from your Super Maramu and have sent both to Amel. I will post these pictures for reference.

If some one has an unmodified Amel 54 fitting and schematic diagram, it would definitely help

Thanks
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo 
Amel 54 #099



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Windless rubber caps for control button

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark and everyone else,

Check this out on eBay.

I think this is the same plastic momentary switch that is at Budget Marine. It is US $6.99 with free US shipping:

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Mark,

I believe that you can replace each of the push button momentarily ON switches with something similar if you cannot find the rubber covers. I have seen these in several marine chandlery shops.

I will be in Budget Marine In Trinidad tomorrow and will check the size of their item AAA/10206 and AAA/10208 which appears to be an exact replacement.

http://www.budgetmarine.com/Catalog/Electrical/Switches+þ+Relays/Switches/Push+Buttons+-+Momentary/Product.aspx#.V_ptLWVOloN

I'll let you know.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Oct 9, 2016 10:51 AM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I was recently told by Maud that Amel no longer stocks the rubber covers for the Amel modified windless. They do have another option but are out of stock and I must purchase the entire kit including the electronics.

 

Does anyone have a source for these rubber covers (preferably in the USA). Click the link below for a picture:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w85b415wnpurmte/Picture%204.jpg?dl=0

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season