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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioner

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

There could be many reasons for these two apparently unrelated events. I believe that it is likely that it could be as simple as the rocker switches or thermostat in the wrong positions, or a breaker turned off. 

Or, it could be more complicated.

Let us know what the A/C tech finds. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



   

On May 15, 2017 13:56, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Rafael,
You just purchased the boat and had the survey done by Olivier… so everything should be working.
When did you last use your Air Conditioning? (and was it working)
Are you pressing the “Diruptor” (breaker) on the 220 volt panel to allow the forward air conditioning to be powered?
Did the Salo A/C blow cold air before (during the survey)?
Could be as simple as the Capacitor.
I wish you were closer, I would use my volt meter to test the resistance…
I hope Bill and other can give you better feedback…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA

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On Mon, 5/15/17, rcavie <no_reply@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioner
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 15, 2017, 1:42 PM


 









Hello at all

We just had problems with our Climma, but on bow AC
(doesn't start) and saloon AC (only blows
notrefrigerate).

Tomorrow the technician will be on board

I appreciate some advise for this "fatal"
encounter!!

Thank you

Rafael

Agapanthe

St Martin









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioner

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Rafael,
You just purchased the boat and had the survey done by Olivier… so everything should be working.
When did you last use your Air Conditioning? (and was it working)
Are you pressing the “Diruptor” (breaker) on the 220 volt panel to allow the forward air conditioning to be powered?
Did the Salo A/C blow cold air before (during the survey)?
Could be as simple as the Capacitor.
I wish you were closer, I would use my volt meter to test the resistance…
I hope Bill and other can give you better feedback…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA




--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 5/15/17, rcavie <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioner
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 15, 2017, 1:42 PM


 









Hello at all

We just had problems with our Climma, but on bow AC
(doesn't start) and saloon AC (only blows
notrefrigerate).

Tomorrow the technician will be on board

I appreciate some advise for this "fatal"
encounter!!

Thank you

Rafael

Agapanthe

St Martin









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Air conditioner

rcavie <no_reply@...>
 

Hello at all
We just had problems with our Climma, but on bow AC (doesn't start) and saloon AC (only blows notrefrigerate).
Tomorrow the technician will be on board
I appreciate some advise for this "fatal" encounter!!
Thank you
Rafael
Agapanthe
St Martin


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Chris,

There is/was a Super Maramu for sale in Queensland. If you are interested in contacting the owner, I'll get you the contact information. 

Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



   



On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:30 AM, rettirc@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi there,


Do you know anyone living around Perth region, Western Australia with an Amel?


We have done a lot of research to date and narrowed our search down to a Super Maramu, and one other vessel type. Before we post a seeking to buy advert we were hoping there might be a remote chance of a vessel being here to see before we launch our dream of blue water cruising with our young family.  


We are experienced sailors and very serious to purchase a vessel soon in the coming months........somewhere in the world. 


Would love to speak to someone local who would be interested to introduce us to this boat?


Chris

+61 (0)424 521 357




Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

rettirc@...
 

Hi there,


Do you know anyone living around Perth region, Western Australia with an Amel?


We have done a lot of research to date and narrowed our search down to a Super Maramu, and one other vessel type. Before we post a seeking to buy advert we were hoping there might be a remote chance of a vessel being here to see before we launch our dream of blue water cruising with our young family.  


We are experienced sailors and very serious to purchase a vessel soon in the coming months........somewhere in the world. 


Would love to speak to someone local who would be interested to introduce us to this boat?


Chris

+61 (0)424 521 357



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bottom paint quantity for Amel Maramu

James Alton
 

Bill,

   Thank you for your guess on the quantity and for suggesting the Micron 77,  I will look into that.  My usage over the next 2 years will be only 3-4 months  during the summer so perhaps the Micron Extra would be ok so long as it does not create other problems with flaking.  
   Would you know anything about the paint (s) that Amel has been using over the last 4-5 years when the paint was bought for my boat?  I am told that the last paint used was purchased from Amel and came in unmarked cans at least 4 years ago..maybe more.  It would be nice to not have to prime the hull since the old paint is in really nice condition but I sure do not want to risk an adhesion issue.

Best,

James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On May 15, 2017, at 11:10 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

I do not know the quantity for a Maramu. A SM or 54 is 20 liters for 2 coats plus a third coat at the waterline and leading edges, leaving 1-2 liters left over on a SM. I suspect that 3 each of the 5 liter cans will do what you want.

Europe does not distribute Micron66, but they do distribute Micron77. Micron77 has an advantage over Micron66 in that it is OK for fresh or saltwater. Micron Extra is widely used in Europe. It is less costly than Micron77, but, of course, not as effective. The last I heard was that the EPA has not approved Micron77 for the USA...it has been waiting for approval about 8 years (no political statement intended). Micron77 is available in Martinique.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:00 AM, lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello,


   I will be repainting the bottom of my Maramu for the first time this year so am unsure of the quantity required for 2 full coats.  I am planning to use the Micron Extra since apparently the Micron 66 is not available in Italy where my boat is currently.  The bottom by the way is very smooth and I will likely be applying over Primocon since I cannot positively pin down the paint currently on the boat.  I am told that it was supplied by Amel and came unmarked.  My broker says it is an International product but does not know which one.  I am pretty sure that it is an ablative since it softened once launched and amazingly kept the bottom clean for 5 weeks last season despite having been out of the water for about 4 years.  If anyone might know what was likely used, I could skip the primer.


Thanks,


James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bottom paint quantity for Amel Maramu

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

James,

I do not know the quantity for a Maramu. A SM or 54 is 20 liters for 2 coats plus a third coat at the waterline and leading edges, leaving 1-2 liters left over on a SM. I suspect that 3 each of the 5 liter cans will do what you want.

Europe does not distribute Micron66, but they do distribute Micron77. Micron77 has an advantage over Micron66 in that it is OK for fresh or saltwater. Micron Extra is widely used in Europe. It is less costly than Micron77, but, of course, not as effective. The last I heard was that the EPA has not approved Micron77 for the USA...it has been waiting for approval about 8 years (no political statement intended). Micron77 is available in Martinique.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:00 AM, lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello,


   I will be repainting the bottom of my Maramu for the first time this year so am unsure of the quantity required for 2 full coats.  I am planning to use the Micron Extra since apparently the Micron 66 is not available in Italy where my boat is currently.  The bottom by the way is very smooth and I will likely be applying over Primocon since I cannot positively pin down the paint currently on the boat.  I am told that it was supplied by Amel and came unmarked.  My broker says it is an International product but does not know which one.  I am pretty sure that it is an ablative since it softened once launched and amazingly kept the bottom clean for 5 weeks last season despite having been out of the water for about 4 years.  If anyone might know what was likely used, I could skip the primer.


Thanks,


James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220



Bottom paint quantity for Amel Maramu

James Alton
 

Hello,


   I will be repainting the bottom of my Maramu for the first time this year so am unsure of the quantity required for 2 full coats.  I am planning to use the Micron Extra since apparently the Micron 66 is not available in Italy where my boat is currently.  The bottom by the way is very smooth and I will likely be applying over Primocon since I cannot positively pin down the paint currently on the boat.  I am told that it was supplied by Amel and came unmarked.  My broker says it is an International product but does not know which one.  I am pretty sure that it is an ablative since it softened once launched and amazingly kept the bottom clean for 5 weeks last season despite having been out of the water for about 4 years.  If anyone might know what was likely used, I could skip the primer.


Thanks,


James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220


Retrofit air conditioner in place of diesel heater on an old Maramu

Jacob Champness
 

Hi all.


It's warming up here in St. Martin and it looks like we'll be spending storm season on the hard.  I was wondering if anyone here had ever tried retrofitting a 12V A/C unit in the coaming locker of a Maramu in place of the old diesel heater.  Of course, being on the hard, we won't be able to use a water-cooled unit.


Thought?


Thanks!

Jacob Champness

Lark, Maramu 202

St. Martin




Onan Generator rubber mounts

Graham Boyd
 

I have just ordered a new Onan MDKBK. Can anyone tell me the SPEC / supplier of the 4 rubber mounts that the generator sits on bolted to the bonded in wooden board? It would appear that not all these Bobbin mounts are the same. 


I look forward to your replies,


Graham


SM140 Sula

Hong Kong


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango Zincs

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Jay
I guess this looks like the rudder holder plate bolts passage on the Maramu
check picture attached - taken when rebuiding the rudder last year.
on the Maramu the anodes are on the rudder, continuity copper wires are running down the outer part of the skeg linked to the rudder bolts by tin weld; goes thru holder plate into the rudder blade to the anodes bolts.
even though different breed, hope this helps.
fair wids
christian alby - Désirade VIII Maramu #116 now in Port Leucate

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Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango Zincs

 
Jay,

I believe that there have been many modifications to that Mango. I seem to remember a late model Mango that had the zincs on the rudder like Santorins, SMs, 54s, 55s, and 64s. I am not sure of the position of early model Mangos. Hopefully a Mango owner can give you a clear answer for hull #60.

The most important issue regarding the zincs and the bonding system is: does the zinc electrically connect with no resistance to the bonded items? Have you checked continuity between the zinc and the engine propellor shaft? What about inside the area of the rudder post/quadrant? Is there evidence of the bonding wire connecting to the rudder post or quadrant? This connection the the rudder post/quadrant is what you should see on the above mentioned models. Unrelated to your direct question, but significant because of the potential modifications on hull #60, is this: Is there a weep hole in the bottom (underneath) of the rudder?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970




On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 11:09 AM, J Wagam jwagam@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
 
Hi Amel Owners,

I am trying to track down the location for zincs on my mango. Next to the grounding plate is a threaded hole that had a bolt in it. It goes all the way through. I assumed this was the zinc location but it is very close to the plate. Does anybody have an idea of what this hole is for? If not for zincs, where is the zinc location?

Thank You!
Jay Wagamon
Mango #60 Hobo Tiempo




Re: Mango Zincs

svcharisma
 

We have the rudder zincs and the prop zinc.  I believe the other grounding plate is for the SSB radio.
 
Alan - SV Charisma - Mango #62
svcharisma@...
the Adventure has just begun
~~~~~~~_/)~~ ~~~~~


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Copper coat

James Alton
 

Ian,

   Yes, that is amazing that you can use a stainless steel pan scrubber on the Copper Coat.  No doubt the bottom of the keel would fair better in a minor grounding than softer antifouling.  

   The fair skin thing was one of the reasons I wanted the protection provided by the fibreglass hardtop on my Maramu.  With copious amounts of sunscreen, a hat with a neck drape etc. I am hoping that I can make it through the tropics without being burnt to a frazz.  Sorry about the loss of sailing due to the ailing parents, again, I am sort of in the same boat myself with the parents unfortunately.

   Nice to have those sailing plans to look forward to, best of luck.

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On May 14, 2017, at 3:26 AM, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

James
Agree, the final dry application seems pretty thin, but it is very hard and very durable. I can't think of anything else you can vigorously attack with a stainless steel pan scrubber!
We missed a season in the Caribbean this year due to ailing parents. Next year we'll cruise the Windward area, then head back to UK via the OCC Azores rally. The Baltic and Scandinavia beckon next where the sun is more considerate to a fair skin!

Hope our passage plans cross somewhere.

Good luck with the hull.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango Zincs

Dan
 

Hope this helps. My father owned hull #30 and had same configuration.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango Zincs

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jay,

I believe that there have been many modifications to that Mango. I seem to remember a late model Mango that had the zincs on the rudder like Santorins, SMs, 54s, 55s, and 64s. I am not sure of the position of early model Mangos. Hopefully a Mango owner can give you a clear answer for hull #60.

The most important issue regarding the zincs and the bonding system is: does the zinc electrically connect with no resistance to the bonded items? Have you checked continuity between the zinc and the engine propellor shaft? What about inside the area of the rudder post/quadrant? Is there evidence of the bonding wire connecting to the rudder post or quadrant? This connection the the rudder post/quadrant is what you should see on the above mentioned models. Unrelated to your direct question, but significant because of the potential modifications on hull #60, is this: Is there a weep hole in the bottom (underneath) of the rudder?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970




On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 11:09 AM, J Wagam jwagam@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Amel Owners,

I am trying to track down the location for zincs on my mango. Next to the grounding plate is a threaded hole that had a bolt in it. It goes all the way through. I assumed this was the zinc location but it is very close to the plate. Does anybody have an idea of what this hole is for? If not for zincs, where is the zinc location?

Thank You!
Jay Wagamon
Mango #60 Hobo Tiempo



Mango Zincs

J Wagam <jwagam@...>
 

Hi Amel Owners,

I am trying to track down the location for zincs on my mango. Next to the grounding plate is a threaded hole that had a bolt in it. It goes all the way through. I assumed this was the zinc location but it is very close to the plate. Does anybody have an idea of what this hole is for? If not for zincs, where is the zinc location?

Thank You!
Jay Wagamon
Mango #60 Hobo Tiempo


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Copper coat

Ian Park
 

James
Agree, the final dry application seems pretty thin, but it is very hard and very durable. I can't think of anything else you can vigorously attack with a stainless steel pan scrubber!
We missed a season in the Caribbean this year due to ailing parents. Next year we'll cruise the Windward area, then head back to UK via the OCC Azores rally. The Baltic and Scandinavia beckon next where the sun is more considerate to a fair skin!

Hope our passage plans cross somewhere.

Good luck with the hull.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Copper coat

ericmeury@...
 

Why not look at Supership Bottom Paint.  Very high copper content


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Copper coat

James Alton
 

Ian,

   Thanks for your input.  Perhaps erosion is not the correct term.  I was just reading that the Copper Coat becomes thinner over time and will require touch up and an eventual recoat so at some level material is being lost with time.  I guess that this could be due to  the mechanical abrasion from cleaning and sanding to expose new Copper, or perhaps the water based Epoxy softens some with immersion,  I am not sure.  The 4 coats that we applied seem to be fairly thin once sanded flat but incredibly hard when compared to any antifouling that I have ever used.  i don’t expect to see any Coppercoat smeared up on the bootop as the straps stretch like with some softer antifouling.

   I like what you said about the hull being very smooth and agree about the paint buildup problem.  One of the first things that struck me about my Amel Maramu was how fair and smooth the bottom is.  No bulkheads showing through, just a very fair 29 year old hull with nary a blister.   

  I hope that we cross paths someday, I would like to see “Ocean Hobo".

Best,

James

On May 13, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

James
Yes it is water based and rollers are easily cleaned on water. On the third day of applying in Trinidad a big black cloud appeared and unloaded on us. It washed the two coats we were applying to the final third of the boat. The other two thirds applied on the previous two days was untouched. We had enough to complete the job in the end!
I wasn't aware that Coppercoat eroded at all. To bring fresh copper to the surface you have to lightly sand the hull with an 800 grit paper. Check the barrier and eroding facts with Coppercoat - I'd be interested to know.
In the tropics we have a light coat of slime build up on the hull over a couple of months. I use a stainless wire wool to scrub it or a large scraper. I can do most of the hull with just a mask and snorkel. In home waters -Wales and Scotland - the build up was less (this with the old Coppercoat), but it hosed off quite easily with the boat dried out against a harbour wall.
It works for me, and the main thing I like is a very smooth hull, none of the peeled onion skin effect after a few years build up of eroding anti fouling. Oh, and I don't have the messy annual job of reapplying anti fouling. 

Good luck

Ian 
Ocean Hobo SN96



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Copper coat

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you all for your input, we are rather convinced that CC will work good for us. However we will shop around for a good yard who can do it at a reasonable cost. We have to leave the boat somewhere in Chesapeake and go back to Sweden for a few weeks first half june to see our kids. Thought it would be good to have the bottom fixed during our absence, but have to reconsider when to do it. The bottom is very fouled with a green fure, so we will aske som divers to clean it.
Regards
Paul on SY Kerpa SM3259 currently on Spanish Wells Eleuthere leaving for the Chesapeak Bay in a few days