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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alwgrip paint for the mast

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

I had a chip repaired on the center of the helm wheel. I think it is the same color as the masts. I asked the guy if he had to mix the color. He told me no, that it was AwlGrip standard color White. I would check the AwlGrip color card. 

I hope this helps. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jun 21, 2017 12:29, "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank  you John

Interesting 
I asssume it was not Alwgrip paint but Car refinishing paint?
It's very practical to have it in spray cans

Paul on SY Kerpa



Any Amels on the South Coast, UK

tfortner1975
 

Hello All, 


Anyone in the south of U.K.? I'll be in the area between Weymouth and Poole for the next couple months. Would be great to catch up or go for a sail, without my boat though. Here for family reasons. 


Cheers, 

Trevor 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alwgrip paint for the mast

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank  you John
Interesting 
I asssume it was not Alwgrip paint but Car refinishing paint?
It's very practical to have it in spray cans

Paul on SY Kerpa


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alwgrip paint for the mast

John Clark
 

Hi Paul,
   Don't know the Awlgrip code but I had a NAPA autoparts store in the US mix up the "Renault Panda White 348" and put it in 4 spray cans for $50 USD.  Color matches my 1990 mast perfectly.  

Paint guy said with that code any paint shop can make it.   

The spray cans are just like large Rustoleum cans one would buy in the store.

  Regards,  John

I have a photo of the exact mix label if you need it.  I think I posted it on the Amel FB page.  


John Clark
SV Annie,  SM 37
Charleston SC


On Jun 21, 2017 11:09 AM, "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello

Does anyone know what type of Alwgrip paint is used for the mast and boom? And Colour code?

We have some corrosion that need to be attended.


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 now on the hard in Yankee Point Marina Lancaster Virginia



Alwgrip paint for the mast

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello

Does anyone know what type of Alwgrip paint is used for the mast and boom? And Colour code?

We have some corrosion that need to be attended.


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 now on the hard in Yankee Point Marina Lancaster Virginia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Door Seal for Super Maramu 2000

karkauai
 

Thanks, Duane, that's what I got, too.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Jun 19, 2017, at 8:35 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,


Mine measure 5/8", but that's after 12 years of use.  

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Jib Furler problem with partly furled sail

Duane Siegfri
 

Danny,

I considered that.  I like the "C" shaped plates better because: 1) Alan Leslie on SV Elyse tried it and it has worked for two years; and 2) it is replaceable if it wears out in turn; and 3) it's a DIY project.

I'm not a welding expert but I recall there is some problems with welding aluminum, and if the welder was not highly skilled you could have a real mess on your hands.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Duo D60 Problems

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill,

You're right, they are 5 micron filters.  I double checked just now to be sure.  Thanks for making the correction, I wouldn't want to lead someone astray.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Duo D60 Problems

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks for the reply Duane. Bit like my not using distilled water in my batteries. Anathema to some, but works for me. Certainly you would want to be on the ball servicing the pre filters. I am fortunate that I am in clean water  enough that I can avoid using the desalinater in dirty water.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

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On 20 Jun 2017 2:38 p.m., "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny,


I understand how you feel.

I have a 30 micron washable pre-filter before the pump.  30 microns is about 1/8" divided by 1000!  .Not much dirt is getting to the membranes.  If you have the washable prefilters you can make water anywhere you are.

I have a liveaboard friend who had his membranes for more than ten years and he made water wherever he was.  I met him in Brunswick GA and the river water here is pretty muddy and he continued to make water.

Duane


Re: Rolly Tasker Contact - Phuket

Dave_Benjamin
 

In addition to Bill Rouse's caution regarding the cheap questionable Chinese stainless Tasker Phuket uses, I'd urge some caution about using them for new sails based on first hand experiences having to repair some of their stuff. A better choice in the region for those cruisers who want to deal with a sailmaker in person is the guy who took over Erja's loft in Langkawi. He's an experienced Aussie sailmaker and Langkawi is a duty free port. I just don't know his name off the top of my head but he'd be easy enough to track down.
We ship worldwide so we're a choice as well with heaps of Amel experience.  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Furler problem with partly furled sail

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Duane,
Yes I see your point. I have thought that there was more clearance between the two plates than needed which would put extra side strain on the pin so adding a filler may help all round.
A thought. How about welding a small piece on rather than putting a plate all round with bolts. In both scenarios the retracted pin would have to have clearance. As I say, I am not at the boat to check.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean pearl

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On 20 Jun 2017 2:32 p.m., "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny,


The other problem with making new holes is the old holes are still there.  If you do have to use the manual furling method, when you put the clutch pin back in you won't know which of the holes the pin is in.

One other thing that's interesting:  on my boat, only the upper edge of the "clutch plate" (what the clutch pin bears against in the lower furler assembly) was rounded over, maybe only 1/8".  For that to happen, either  (1) the foil is able to raise up (with a lot of force in the sail),  perhaps caused by some slop in the connection of the furler drum (the upper assembly with the manual furler groove); or (2) the pin is only engaging the upper part of the plate.

By putting additional "C" shaped plates on top of the "clutch plate", more of the clutch pin will be engaged..

The Clutch Pin Spring is definitely fine, I have trouble raising it up by hand even after cleaning it with Corrosion-X.  There wasn't any corrosion but it was "sticky".

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Duo D60 Problems

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

Why are you using 30 micron? Dessalator specifies 5 Micron for the DUO60, and they state "has to be replaced either every two or three months, or according to the sea water purity."

Obviously, this 30 micron filter has allowed particles into the CAT pump that should not be there. And when you "clean" a washable filter, you will never get the small embedded stuff...only the big stuff.

I imagine that this could be part of your Dessalator shut-down mystery.

I suggest that all users follow Dessalator's specific instructions, unless they have an intimate knowledge of the system.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Furler problem with partly furled sail

Duane Siegfri
 

Danny,

The other problem with making new holes is the old holes are still there.  If you do have to use the manual furling method, when you put the clutch pin back in you won't know which of the holes the pin is in.

One other thing that's interesting:  on my boat, only the upper edge of the "clutch plate" (what the clutch pin bears against in the lower furler assembly) was rounded over, maybe only 1/8".  For that to happen, either  (1) the foil is able to raise up (with a lot of force in the sail),  perhaps caused by some slop in the connection of the furler drum (the upper assembly with the manual furler groove); or (2) the pin is only engaging the upper part of the plate.

By putting additional "C" shaped plates on top of the "clutch plate", more of the clutch pin will be engaged..

The Clutch Pin Spring is definitely fine, I have trouble raising it up by hand even after cleaning it with Corrosion-X.  There wasn't any corrosion but it was "sticky".

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hard deposits on 8-month old water heater heating unit

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks , Bill.       
Ian


On 20 Jun 2017, at 01:15, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Lifeline makes an AGM Group 31 standard battery that is the same dimensions as the flooded Group 31 cells that were installed by Amel and is rated at 105 A-hrs. (Model number GPL-31T)

They also make a Group 31 that has the same external dimensions, is significantly heavier (by about 5 kgs each) , and is rated at 125A-hrs (Model number GPL-31XT)

We have the 125A-hr versions on board Harmonie.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ



---In amelyachtowners@..., <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote :

Hi Bill ,  interested to hear of your AGM batteries . Are they 105Ah each ? Same dimensions as the normal ones that Amel fit ? 
Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 , Santo Stefanie , Italy



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Furler problem with partly furled sail

Duane Siegfri
 

I thought of that first.  The trouble is that the plate only encompasses about 60% of the hole so you would have to be able hold the drill bit in position while it drilled through the edge of the round plate.

I wonder why Amel didn't make the plate big enough to have the entire hole in the plate.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hard deposits on 8-month old water heater heating unit

greatketch@...
 


Lifeline makes an AGM Group 31 standard battery that is the same dimensions as the flooded Group 31 cells that were installed by Amel and is rated at 105 A-hrs. (Model number GPL-31T)

They also make a Group 31 that has the same external dimensions, is significantly heavier (by about 5 kgs each) , and is rated at 125A-hrs (Model number GPL-31XT)

We have the 125A-hr versions on board Harmonie.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ



---In amelyachtowners@..., <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote :

Hi Bill ,  interested to hear of your AGM batteries . Are they 105Ah each ? Same dimensions as the normal ones that Amel fit ? 
Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 , Santo Stefanie , Italy



Re: Jib Furler problem with partly furled sail

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Duane,

Correct on all counts...yes "C" shaped is what I mean.
I don't recall the actual thickness of the plates but I believe it was only about 2mm, just enough to make the slots work properly.
If the Clutch pin is stiff (it should be hard to pull up, but spring back easily), you'll need to disassemble it and clean everything.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Furler problem with partly furled sail

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi, without being at my boat to look at it a question. Why not just drill a new hole for the pin in a different place.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

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On 19 Jun 2017 18:13, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Alan,


I removed the upper furler assembly, and the clutch pin spring is very stiff.  The plate with the holes that receive the clutch pin though are worn, so that seems to be the problem. 

I like your solution, so if you don't mind I have a few questions:

1.  By semi-circular, I assume you mean they were shaped like a "C"?  That is, half of a donut?

2.  Did you put the new plates on top of the old?  On the drawing in the files section there appears to be some space between the upper furler assembly (with the part where the rope for the manual furler goes) and the lower assembly that has the plate receiving the clutch pin.  Do you recall what thickness plate you used?  

3.  I assume you countersunk the new "small bolts" that connect the new plate to the old?

Thanks,
Duane



Re: Jib Furler problem with partly furled sail

Duane Siegfri
 

Alan,

I removed the upper furler assembly, and the clutch pin spring is very stiff.  The plate with the holes that receive the clutch pin though are worn, so that seems to be the problem. 

I like your solution, so if you don't mind I have a few questions:

1.  By semi-circular, I assume you mean they were shaped like a "C"?  That is, half of a donut?

2.  Did you put the new plates on top of the old?  On the drawing in the files section there appears to be some space between the upper furler assembly (with the part where the rope for the manual furler goes) and the lower assembly that has the plate receiving the clutch pin.  Do you recall what thickness plate you used?  

3.  I assume you countersunk the new "small bolts" that connect the new plate to the old?

Thanks,
Duane



Re: No Stop, then No Start on Yanmar 4JH3-HTE

Duane Siegfri
 

Eric,

One more test:'

7.  I set my ACE Multi-meter for continuity and connected to the solenoid pigtail and the battery negative cable at the solenoid (on the battery side).  Note that the stop button wire was disconnected from the solenoid pigtail.
    A.  With the key on no continuity.
    B.  With the key on and the Stop Button Pushed instead of sounding a tone to show continuity it read 5.4.  The instruction manual for the meter says the tone will sound if the resistance is less than 150 ohms.
    C.  Just crossing the leads it reads 0.4 and the tone sounds.

    So there is some continuity from the positive wire on the solenoid...

Also note that there is only one wire to the stop solenoid, the block must be the ground when the stop button is pushed.

Duane