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Bow Thruster

rcavie <no_reply@...>
 

Hello to all

I have sent several emails to Amel Caraibbes and have not answer by requesting the spare parts to avoid filtering water in my Bow thruster .. What can I do?

What parts I will need?

Thank you for your help!!

Rafael SM 2k 246



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Christian,

I am happy for you that you have solved the issue. I have known Amels with mast wiring lasting 35 years. I have a friend with an Oyster that replaced all of his mast wiring at 5 years. 

I am always amazed at what some yacht owners will do to save a few pennies. 

My experience is that most Amel Owners maintain their Amel in factory condition and respect the fact that, more than any other builder, Amel has a history of designing reliability and quality into an Amel and all of its systems. Simply stated, you have to own an Amel for years to completely understand this.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
X-BeBe SM387

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 8:01 AM, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

good afternoon Bill

I called foam plugs the foam rings used by Amel to keep leader lines from wrapping around each other: immediate result instead of intent.
what caused the 'plug' was the fact that previous owners wishing to save on cost, linked two short lengths of two different electrical power cables using scewed electrical connectors about halfway thru the cable duct; leaving leaders & foam rings inisde tube. I posted pictures of the result when 'drilled out' using my 6 Meters lgth manual drill & pressurised water to help the plug glide down.
2 Weeks preparation of Tools, 1-1/2 hr set up site followed by 45 mn screwing on & pulling did the trick.
Way is clear now to reinstate to original condition following Henri's ways.

I would never dream of moaning about such a wonderful boat, where all is linked to act & serve most efficently as a whole.

note : original (1982) leader lines did not break when pulled and held on tight until drilled out, when new nylon lines broke Under strain at 1-1/2 the SWL !

fair weather to you

 
Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80



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Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

 
Christian,

I am not sure I know what you refer to when you say, "foam plugs."

But, let me tell you what I do know about and maybe this will help you: 
The extra "leader lines will have a small piece of foam tied to them every 2 meters or so. This is to keep them from wrapping around other leaders and cables. These pieces of foam sometime make pulling the leader a little difficult, but not impossible.

Also, remember your Amel is new to you, but may not be in original condition. I have seen new owners of pre-owned Amels complain about something Amel did, when, in fact, it was someone else.

I hope this helps.

Good luck and one day soon you may be enjoying your Amel. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
X-BeBe #387
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.
Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).
Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .
wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.
Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?
Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?
I am all ears.
Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)
fair winds

christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

good afternoon Bill

I called foam plugs the foam rings used by Amel to keep leader lines from wrapping around each other: immediate result instead of intent.
what caused the 'plug' was the fact that previous owners wishing to save on cost, linked two short lengths of two different electrical power cables using scewed electrical connectors about halfway thru the cable duct; leaving leaders & foam rings inisde tube. I posted pictures of the result when 'drilled out' using my 6 Meters lgth manual drill & pressurised water to help the plug glide down.
2 Weeks preparation of Tools, 1-1/2 hr set up site followed by 45 mn screwing on & pulling did the trick.
Way is clear now to reinstate to original condition following Henri's ways.

I would never dream of moaning about such a wonderful boat, where all is linked to act & serve most efficently as a whole.

note : original (1982) leader lines did not break when pulled and held on tight until drilled out, when new nylon lines broke Under strain at 1-1/2 the SWL !

fair weather to you

 
Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80



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À : "amelyachtowners@..."
Envoyé le : Jeudi 27 avril 2017 23h12
Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

 
Christian,

I am not sure I know what you refer to when you say, "foam plugs."

But, let me tell you what I do know about and maybe this will help you: 
The extra "leader lines will have a small piece of foam tied to them every 2 meters or so. This is to keep them from wrapping around other leaders and cables. These pieces of foam sometime make pulling the leader a little difficult, but not impossible.

Also, remember your Amel is new to you, but may not be in original condition. I have seen new owners of pre-owned Amels complain about something Amel did, when, in fact, it was someone else.

I hope this helps.

Good luck and one day soon you may be enjoying your Amel. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
X-BeBe #387
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.
Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).
Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .
wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.
Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?
Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?
I am all ears.
Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)
fair winds

christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea





Re: Tiny lights on 24V panel

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Willem,

I contacted Maude recently about those large red indicators, she told me they are not available anymore :-(

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Tiny lights on 24V panel

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Rink,

I agree with Bill that these small lights are standard industrial and everywhere available. This is not the case with 2 bigger warning lights on the SM for the gas solenoid and the same on the sea cooling water intake near the entrance. These lights are not anymore in production. I will contact Maude Touillet about these (broken red cover glass).

By the way are you Dutch? I just bought my SM Kavanga and hope to bring her to Spain or Portugal this summer after a replacement of the standing rigging

Best regards,

Willem Kroes.

SM2k #351 Kavanga



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu mainsail furling issues

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello James,

the genoa furler that has been installed for 16 years on the Santorin/SM is not available anymore. Jacob is lucky to have one on his Maramu!!
Does your genoa furler show problems? With a careful maintenance, it should last many more years.

What you have on your Maramu #220 as a main-sail furler is probably very close to the mainsail furler system of a Santorin, or to what Jacob has got on MA # 202 (see his pictures), except that the winch handle's nozzle for manual furling is probably at the front of the mast (not aft). If so, you should just try and maintain the system as it is, replacing the bronze gears and bearings of the gaer box when needed, and servicing the motors.

Bon courage.

Olivier


On Thursday, April 27, 2017 2:51 PM, "James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Oliver,

   My Maramu is hull #220. Is it possible to upgrade the Amel furling systems on my boat to those that were used on the Santorin/Super Maramu?

Thank you,

James Alton
1987 Maramu #220

On Apr 27, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hello Jacob,

the compressed material part is indeed original. The material is (was) called CELORON. In fact it should not have been drilled, which probably caused it to break.
I see no objection to replace it with aluminum as this is not designed to be a "weak" part (like a fuse).
However, be careful when you furl the sail in. Don't put too much load on the system: ease the sheet a lot a furl the sail when the wind is in front of the vessel or up to 30° on the side.
Make sure the pin is not locked in the manual furler's nozzle.
Tripping the breaker too often will finally lead to wear and tear the worm gear system of the gear-box, and wear on the carbon brushes of the motor.

The furlers you have on the Maramu should be used with care and always with eased sheets.

HAVE A GOOD DAY !

Olivier


On Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:20 PM, "jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
[Attachment(s) from jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] included below]
Got it sorted, mostly.  

It turned out that as you all said, it was the breakers.  They're located in the companionway on this boat.  And now I know what "mat" and "bome" mean!  Thanks, Eric and Olivier, for helping me understand why I would hear a solenoid even when the breakers were off.

Now here's a puzzle: When I disengaged the furling motor to manually furl in the last little bit of the main the other day, I found a weird little broken piece of some kind of pressed material taking the torque from the furling motor to the furling unit (photo attached).  This must not be original equipment, right?  Could I maybe replace it with just a little block of aluminum or something?  

Jacob Champness
Maramu 202 - Lark
St. Martin









Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

When prepairing for a passage of 3000 nautical miles, where you can be stuck with no wind, you fill up with as much diesel you can. It is not fun to be in the middle of nowhere with no possibilty to run neither of your motors. Even if we have both solar panels and wind gen we have to run the dieselgen on passages since we run more systems when on the move than on anchor.
If we just move around in areas where it is easy to fill up, we never have more than the 600 liters in the main tank.

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232
Portimao, Portugal.

Skickat från min iPad

27 apr. 2017 kl. 18:06 skrev greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

A question for those people who carry large amounts of fuel above and beyond the standard tank on the Super Maramu:  Why do you do so?  Do you actually find you use that much, or is it just a comfort level to have a lot of excess?


How much fuel do you actually use on passage?  
How much at anchor? 
What rational do you apply for how much fuel to carry?  

Bill Kinney
SM#160, Harmonie
Charlotte Amalie, StT, USVI


---In amelyachtowners@..., <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote :

Wow Eric, that is a lot of fuel! We have the 600L in the main tank and 9 x 23L jerry cans (200L) which fit snugly in the liferaft locker. Those also get emptied first as our main tank uses fuel. We don't fill those unless we are headed on long ocean passages.

We finally completed installing the fuel polishing unit yesterday and also installed a T junction with 2.5m hose to suck fuel out of jerry cans along side. Just used it tonight to fill 500L of fuel from jerry cans.... what a pleasure!. So fast, quiet and not a drop spilt anywhere!

Next week we start heading up the east Australian coast towards Indonesia where we will be for four months. There are so many sorry stories of poor quality fuel there that we will put all fuel through the fuel polishing unit before it goes into our tank.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332
Brisbane


On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:38 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have used Nauta bladders on a number of my boats. I feel the one to get is the more expensive one with built in straps and plumbing hardware already attached.
We use only one hose to fill and remove fuel from the tanks,
We pump fuel into a 5 gallon bucket and remove it using a Jabsco vane puppy pump
Fueling is a breeze and transferring fuel is equally easy.
 
Between the tank and the pump I have mounted a locking ball valve with a hose barb attached.
Then just attach the hose barb to the vane puppy and another hose to go from the pump to the main fuel tank..
 we stop pumping a number of times and reverse the pump , we call it burping the tank.
if you step on the tank vigorously a lot of air will come out into your 5 gallon bucket. we continue the process till we have 55 gallons in the tank. To remove fuel just reverse the process. when the tank is almost empty we hold it up in the air and get the last drops of fuel out of the tank.
when filling the tanks I also add some fuel preservative to the bucket to prevent any growth when the tank is empty.
 
 
The tank that is strapped to the cabin top rail is filled the same except gravity empties it.
 
we also use the vane pump to pump out auxiliary tanks in the life raft locker.
 
All of this fuel is pumped through the large Racor filter that I mentioned in another post that filters the fuel before it gets into the tank. (Thanks Ian and Judy)
Fair winds
Eris
sm 376 Kimberlite
Eris
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis@...  [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:58 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com

> Thanks for reminding me about flexible tanks Eric. I put two 50
> gal bladders in the stern of a Jeanneau DS43 I used to own. Only
> ever half filled them due to my concern that surging in a rough
> seaway would cause the fittings to fail.




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

eric freedman
 

I believe ABYC says you must have separate hoses and through hulls for each pump. IN addition what would prevent having the water coming from one hose going back into the boat? You would also not want to put a check valve in a bilge pump hose.

 

I have an EDSON manual crash pump I believe it is rated at 1 gallon a stroke. It is mounted on a board with a long intake and exhaust hose. In an emergency I would just dump the water in the cockpit. The scuppers are more than sufficient to remove any water in the cockpit.

 

I don’t know if you ever had a cockpit full of water but it drains in less than 30 seconds.

 

Remember the old adage noting bails water faster than a frightened man with a bucket.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 6:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

 

 

How do you suggest to run the outlet hose? Is it OK to tee off from the manual pamp?

Vladimir Sonsev
Tel/Text: 202 258 1916

 

On Apr 26, 2017 4:09 PM, "jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

A mobile unattached Rule type submersible pump with a long lead with crocodile clips and a fairly long semi rigid outlet hose makes a good back up.

 

John Maramu, #91 Popeye

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

When I could not get a "cable lube" I used K-Y Jelly.  You can get it or similar product in any drugstore.
It works good but more expensive than "cable lube".

Vladimir Sonsev
SM #345
"Life is Good"


On Apr 27, 2017 3:11 PM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
when we bought Ocean Pearl there was a litre bottle of a product called "cable lube" on board. It is a very slimy slippery product and applying it to cables that need to be drawn though tight spaces or long distances makes a big difference. It is remarkable how easy it makes pulling a cable and doesn't leave a messy residue. As to removing a tangle, I would try to stop pulling before my tangle became a knot, once it becomes a knot its not easy. (pun intended). Reverse the pull and try for a jiggle and shake and back and forth pull before there is a total lock up.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 28 April 2017 at 05:39 "James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Is it possible to apply either air or water pressure to the PVC in the opposite direction that caused the jam?  Perhaps with the pressure applied to you can tug on the leader lines and cables one at a time to see if you can find a combination that works.  


   One simple thing that has often helped me with this type of rewiring is to coat the pull lines, wires and tube with talcum powder.  It can greatly reduce the friction and thereby the risk of a jam or damage to a wire.  I don’t think that the talc causes any problems other than being a little messy.

Best of luck,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:54 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.

Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).

Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .

wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.

Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?

Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?

I am all ears.

Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)

fair winds


christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea





 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Christian,

I am not sure I know what you refer to when you say, "foam plugs."

But, let me tell you what I do know about and maybe this will help you: 
The extra "leader lines will have a small piece of foam tied to them every 2 meters or so. This is to keep them from wrapping around other leaders and cables. These pieces of foam sometime make pulling the leader a little difficult, but not impossible.

Also, remember your Amel is new to you, but may not be in original condition. I have seen new owners of pre-owned Amels complain about something Amel did, when, in fact, it was someone else.

I hope this helps.

Good luck and one day soon you may be enjoying your Amel. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
X-BeBe #387
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.

Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).

Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .

wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.

Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?

Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?

I am all ears.

Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)

fair winds


christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Alex?

No, no, the question was from Bill KinneySM#160 on Harmonie



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 4/27/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, April 27, 2017, 4:01 PM


 









Alex,
When we circumnavigated in BeBe (SM
#387), we carried 10 of the 18.9 liter containers (Jerry
Jugs) in the port side watertight compartment that Amel made
for the life raft.
We
never needed any of that extra fuel. The most fuel we ever
burned on a passage was from the Caribbean side of the
Panama Canal to the Galapagos Islands. That was 405 liters
and it was because of motoring through the canal and mostly
because of lack of wind on the equator. We filled up in the
Galapagos and burned a total of 235 liters on the 3,000
passage to French Polynesia.
Best,
CW
Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander
Emeritus
Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX
77550
+1(832) 380-4970






On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at
12:06 PM, greatketch@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:















 









A question for those people who carry large amounts
of fuel above and beyond the standard tank on the Super
Maramu:  Why do you do so?  Do you actually find you use
that much, or is it just a comfort level to have a lot of
excess?
How much fuel do
you actually use on passage?  How much at
anchor? What rational do you apply for how much
fuel to carry?  
Bill
KinneySM#160, HarmonieCharlotte
Amalie, StT, USVI

---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.co
m, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote :

Wow Eric, that is a lot of fuel! We have the
600L in the main tank and 9 x 23L jerry cans (200L) which
fit snugly in the liferaft locker. Those also get emptied
first as our main tank uses fuel. We don't fill those
unless we are headed on long ocean passages.
We fina
lly completed installing the fuel polishing unit yesterday
and also installed a T junction with 2.5m hose to suck fuel
out of jerry cans along side. Just used it tonight to fill
500L of fuel from jerry cans.... what a pleasure!. So fast,
quiet and not a drop spilt
anywhere!
Next week we start heading up the
east Australian coast towards Indonesia where we will be for
four months. There are so many sorry stories of poor quality
fuel there that we will put all fuel through the fuel
polishing unit before it goes into our tank.
Colin & Lauren
StreeterIsland Pearl II, Amel53
#332Brisbane

On
Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:38 PM, kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.c om>
wrote:

 I
have used Nauta bladders on a number of my boats. I feel
the one to get is the more expensive one with built in
straps and plumbing hardware already attached.We
use only one hose to fill and remove fuel from the tanks,

We pump fuel into a 5 gallon bucket and
remove it using a Jabsco vane puppy pump
Fueling is a breeze and transferring fuel is
equally easy. Between the tank and
the pump I have mounted a locking ball valve with a hose
barb attached.Then just attach the hose barb to
the vane puppy and another hose to go from the pump to the
main fuel tank.. we stop pumping a number of
times and reverse the pump , we call it burping the
tank.if you step on the tank vigorously a lot of
ai
r will come out into your 5 gallon bucket. we continue the
process till we have 55 gallons in the tank. To remove fuel
just reverse the process. when the tank is almost empty we
hold it up in the air and get the last drops of fuel out of
the tank.when filling the tanks I
also add some fuel preservative to the bucket to prevent any
growth when the tank is
empty.  The tank that is
strapped to the cabin top rail is filled the same except
gravity empties it. we also use the
vane pump to pump out auxiliary tanks in the life raft
locker. All of this fuel is pumped
through the large Racor filter that I mentioned in another
post that filters the fuel before it gets into the tank.
(Thanks Ian and Judy)Fair
windsErissm 376
KimberliteEris  -----
Original Mess
age -----
From: "dennis@... 
[amelyachtowners]"
Date:
Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:58 am
Subject:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons
of diesel.
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

> Thanks for
reminding me about flexible tanks Eric. I put two 50
> gal bladders in the stern of a
Jeanneau DS43 I used to own. Only
>
ever half filled them due to my concern that surging in a
rough
> seaway would cause the fittings
to fail.



--
Colin
Streeter0411 016
445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

When we circumnavigated in BeBe (SM #387), we carried 10 of the 18.9 liter containers (Jerry Jugs) in the port side watertight compartment that Amel made for the life raft.

We never needed any of that extra fuel. The most fuel we ever burned on a passage was from the Caribbean side of the Panama Canal to the Galapagos Islands. That was 405 liters and it was because of motoring through the canal and mostly because of lack of wind on the equator. We filled up in the Galapagos and burned a total of 235 liters on the 3,000 passage to French Polynesia.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970







On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:06 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

A question for those people who carry large amounts of fuel above and beyond the standard tank on the Super Maramu:  Why do you do so?  Do you actually find you use that much, or is it just a comfort level to have a lot of excess?


How much fuel do you actually use on passage?  
How much at anchor? 
What rational do you apply for how much fuel to carry?  

Bill Kinney
SM#160, Harmonie
Charlotte Amalie, StT, USVI


---In amelyachtowners@...m, wrote :

Wow Eric, that is a lot of fuel! We have the 600L in the main tank and 9 x 23L jerry cans (200L) which fit snugly in the liferaft locker. Those also get emptied first as our main tank uses fuel. We don't fill those unless we are headed on long ocean passages.

We fina lly completed installing the fuel polishing unit yesterday and also installed a T junction with 2.5m hose to suck fuel out of jerry cans along side. Just used it tonight to fill 500L of fuel from jerry cans.... what a pleasure!. So fast, quiet and not a drop spilt anywhere!

Next week we start heading up the east Australian coast towards Indonesia where we will be for four months. There are so many sorry stories of poor quality fuel there that we will put all fuel through the fuel polishing unit before it goes into our tank.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332
Brisbane


On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:38 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

I have used Nauta bladders on a number of my boats. I feel the one to get is the more expensive one with built in straps and plumbing hardware already attached.
We use only one hose to fill and remove fuel from the tanks,
We pump fuel into a 5 gallon bucket and remove it using a Jabsco vane puppy pump
Fueling is a breeze and transferring fuel is equally easy.
 
Between the tank and the pump I have mounted a locking ball valve with a hose barb attached.
Then just attach the hose barb to the vane puppy and another hose to go from the pump to the main fuel tank..
 we stop pumping a number of times and reverse the pump , we call it burping the tank.
if you step on the tank vigorously a lot of ai r will come out into your 5 gallon bucket. we continue the process till we have 55 gallons in the tank. To remove fuel just reverse the process. when the tank is almost empty we hold it up in the air and get the last drops of fuel out of the tank.
when filling the tanks I also add some fuel preservative to the bucket to prevent any growth when the tank is empty.
 
 
The tank that is strapped to the cabin top rail is filled the same except gravity empties it.
 
we also use the vane pump to pump out auxiliary tanks in the life raft locker.
 
All of this fuel is pumped through the large Racor filter that I mentioned in another post that filters the fuel before it gets into the tank. (Thanks Ian and Judy)
Fair winds
Eris
sm 376 Kimberlite
Eris
 
 
----- Original Mess age -----
From: "dennis@...  [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:58 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com

> Thanks for reminding me about flexible tanks Eric. I put two 50
> gal bladders in the stern of a Jeanneau DS43 I used to own. Only
> ever half filled them due to my concern that surging in a rough
> seaway would cause the fittings to fail.




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

too late as I went already for the pulling & shoving & applying too much pressure on this tight knot of cables, foam plugs & leader lines. They were already in a bundle about halway down the mast when I tried my luck; all coaxial cables went thru easy, the electrical power cord (od 10 mm for 3 x 1.5mm wire) used to feed the mooring light was just a mite too fat to go thru.
will get some of the gooied stuff for my new wires though, seems to be worth  the purchase.
I wil test my 6 M drill tomorrow & will leave it here in Port Leucate for all rady sailors who do not believe in patient & mild handling of knots which resist untangling,
fair winds

christian alby - Maramu 168 Désirade VIII - still in Port Leucate Western Med

Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80

tangle;


De : "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]"
À : amelyachtowners@...
Envoyé le : Jeudi 27 avril 2017 21h11
Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

 
Hi all,
when we bought Ocean Pearl there was a litre bottle of a product called "cable lube" on board. It is a very slimy slippery product and applying it to cables that need to be drawn though tight spaces or long distances makes a big difference. It is remarkable how easy it makes pulling a cable and doesn't leave a messy residue. As to removing a tangle, I would try to stop pulling before my tangle became a knot, once it becomes a knot its not easy. (pun intended). Reverse the pull and try for a jiggle and shake and back and forth pull before there is a total lock up.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 28 April 2017 at 05:39 "James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

 
Is it possible to apply either air or water pressure to the PVC in the opposite direction that caused the jam?  Perhaps with the pressure applied to you can tug on the leader lines and cables one at a time to see if you can find a combination that works.  

   One simple thing that has often helped me with this type of rewiring is to coat the pull lines, wires and tube with talcum powder.  It can greatly reduce the friction and thereby the risk of a jam or damage to a wire.  I don’t think that the talc causes any problems other than being a little messy.

Best of luck,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:54 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.
Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).
Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .
wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.
Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?
Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?
I am all ears.
Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)
fair winds

christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea




 

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all,
when we bought Ocean Pearl there was a litre bottle of a product called "cable lube" on board. It is a very slimy slippery product and applying it to cables that need to be drawn though tight spaces or long distances makes a big difference. It is remarkable how easy it makes pulling a cable and doesn't leave a messy residue. As to removing a tangle, I would try to stop pulling before my tangle became a knot, once it becomes a knot its not easy. (pun intended). Reverse the pull and try for a jiggle and shake and back and forth pull before there is a total lock up.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 28 April 2017 at 05:39 "James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Is it possible to apply either air or water pressure to the PVC in the opposite direction that caused the jam?  Perhaps with the pressure applied to you can tug on the leader lines and cables one at a time to see if you can find a combination that works.  


   One simple thing that has often helped me with this type of rewiring is to coat the pull lines, wires and tube with talcum powder.  It can greatly reduce the friction and thereby the risk of a jam or damage to a wire.  I don’t think that the talc causes any problems other than being a little messy.

Best of luck,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:54 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.

Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).

Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .

wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.

Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?

Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?

I am all ears.

Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)

fair winds


christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea





 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

point taken
talcum powder added to ship supplies
will powder the 'babies bums' to ease passage

otherwise tried pressure with no avail; just adds up to pressure both ways & pressurises nylon & foam to build up strength (volume compressed = added density)

thanks for tip anyway
 
christian alby - Maramu 168 Désirade VIII now in Western Med Port Leucate

Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80



De : "James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]"
À : amelyachtowners@...
Envoyé le : Jeudi 27 avril 2017 19h39
Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

 
Is it possible to apply either air or water pressure to the PVC in the opposite direction that caused the jam?  Perhaps with the pressure applied to you can tug on the leader lines and cables one at a time to see if you can find a combination that works.  

   One simple thing that has often helped me with this type of rewiring is to coat the pull lines, wires and tube with talcum powder.  It can greatly reduce the friction and thereby the risk of a jam or damage to a wire.  I don’t think that the talc causes any problems other than being a little messy.

Best of luck,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:54 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.
Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).
Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .
wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.
Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?
Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?
I am all ears.
Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)
fair winds

christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

James Alton
 

Is it possible to apply either air or water pressure to the PVC in the opposite direction that caused the jam?  Perhaps with the pressure applied to you can tug on the leader lines and cables one at a time to see if you can find a combination that works.  

   One simple thing that has often helped me with this type of rewiring is to coat the pull lines, wires and tube with talcum powder.  It can greatly reduce the friction and thereby the risk of a jam or damage to a wire.  I don’t think that the talc causes any problems other than being a little messy.

Best of luck,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:54 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.

Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).

Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .

wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.

Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?

Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?

I am all ears.

Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)

fair winds


christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Removing the damn Vetus coupling

James Alton
 

Eric,

  I have had some pretty good luck with the Rust Bullet paint used on steel in bilges.  Nothing lasts forever of course.  There is product called Trailercoat made by Petit (#6981) which is a similar type of product as RB(moisture cured polyurethane with the aluminum plates) that works well and is less expensive if you ever have a larger project.  Congratulations on finishing your job.

James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Apr 27, 2017, at 12:57 AM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


> Well another 8 hours and the job is done. 
> The vetus coupling is exactly the same diameter as the C drive 
> shaft. That was quickly fixed with a lathe.
> 
> Interestingly even though I had no problem with any vibration 
> the rubber bushings in the coupling were in a horrible state of 
> affairs. 
> Another interesting point , using the same Yanmar engine mounts 
> the new ones were 2 mm higher than the old ones due to the 
> settling and wear of the rubber in the old mounts.
> 
> I had also painted the new mounts with Rust Bullet paint- 
> guaranteed not to rust for 10 years--lets see how that goes.
> 
> While I had the whole thing apart I changed the lip seal that is 
> between the threaded retainer forward of the disk brake and the 
> C drive body. Very simple task.
> 
> Road test tomorrow but it looks great.
> Photos in a few da ys.
> Fair Winds,
> Eric
> SM 376
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message -----
> From: "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" 
> Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:47 am
> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Removing the damn Vetus coupling
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> 
> > Necessity is indeed the mother of invention - great job. 
> Cheers, 
> > Craig SN#68
> > 
> > 
> > ---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :
> > 
> > Using 2 cans of
> > PB blaster and a lot of use of wedges and a small sledge 
> hammer, 
> > I succeeded in accomplishing nothing. 
> > Before setting the
> > gearbox on fire, I made a set of 4 bolts with nuts that pushed 
> > against the transmission and went through the holes in the 
> > coupling. After 6 hours of wrenching the coupling final ly came 
> > off. I will post photos when I get home. 
> > 
> > The transmission shaft measures 35.00-35.03 mm. The coupling 
> > also measures 35.00 mm.
> > 
> > DUHHHH 
> > The alignment adapter also measures 35.00 mm as of today. 
> > tomorrow we will have them turned a little bigger. I will also 
> > have the disgusting disk for the brake remade out of stainless,
> > The rest hopefully will be easy.
> > Fair winds,
> > Eric
> > 
> > Sm 376 kimberlite 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

greatketch@...
 

A question for those people who carry large amounts of fuel above and beyond the standard tank on the Super Maramu:  Why do you do so?  Do you actually find you use that much, or is it just a comfort level to have a lot of excess?

How much fuel do you actually use on passage?  
How much at anchor? 
What rational do you apply for how much fuel to carry?  

Bill Kinney
SM#160, Harmonie
Charlotte Amalie, StT, USVI


---In amelyachtowners@..., <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote :

Wow Eric, that is a lot of fuel! We have the 600L in the main tank and 9 x 23L jerry cans (200L) which fit snugly in the liferaft locker. Those also get emptied first as our main tank uses fuel. We don't fill those unless we are headed on long ocean passages.

We finally completed installing the fuel polishing unit yesterday and also installed a T junction with 2.5m hose to suck fuel out of jerry cans along side. Just used it tonight to fill 500L of fuel from jerry cans.... what a pleasure!. So fast, quiet and not a drop spilt anywhere!

Next week we start heading up the east Australian coast towards Indonesia where we will be for four months. There are so many sorry stories of poor quality fuel there that we will put all fuel through the fuel polishing unit before it goes into our tank.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332
Brisbane


On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:38 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have used Nauta bladders on a number of my boats. I feel the one to get is the more expensive one with built in straps and plumbing hardware already attached.
We use only one hose to fill and remove fuel from the tanks,
We pump fuel into a 5 gallon bucket and remove it using a Jabsco vane puppy pump
Fueling is a breeze and transferring fuel is equally easy.
 
Between the tank and the pump I have mounted a locking ball valve with a hose barb attached.
Then just attach the hose barb to the vane puppy and another hose to go from the pump to the main fuel tank..
 we stop pumping a number of times and reverse the pump , we call it burping the tank.
if you step on the tank vigorously a lot of air will come out into your 5 gallon bucket. we continue the process till we have 55 gallons in the tank. To remove fuel just reverse the process. when the tank is almost empty we hold it up in the air and get the last drops of fuel out of the tank.
when filling the tanks I also add some fuel preservative to the bucket to prevent any growth when the tank is empty.
 
 
The tank that is strapped to the cabin top rail is filled the same except gravity empties it.
 
we also use the vane pump to pump out auxiliary tanks in the life raft locker.
 
All of this fuel is pumped through the large Racor filter that I mentioned in another post that filters the fuel before it gets into the tank. (Thanks Ian and Judy)
Fair winds
Eris
sm 376 Kimberlite
Eris
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis@...  [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:58 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com

> Thanks for reminding me about flexible tanks Eric. I put two 50
> gal bladders in the stern of a Jeanneau DS43 I used to own. Only
> ever half filled them due to my concern that surging in a rough
> seaway would cause the fittings to fail.




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu mainsail furling issues

Stephen Davis
 

No worries...I'm sorry we didn't get to meet. It was fairly crowded that night, and we didn't come up with a good plan to find each other. We are still on the dock at Island Water World for a couple more days, and feel free to drop by anytime for a beer. 

Steve
Aloha SM72

On Apr 27, 2017, at 07:47, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jacob,

the compressed material part is indeed original. The material is (was) called CELORON. In fact it should not have been drilled, which probably caused it to break.
I see no objection to replace it with aluminum as this is not designed to be a "weak" part (like a fuse).
However, be careful when you furl the sail in. Don't put too much load on the system: ease the sheet a lot a furl the sail when the wind is in front of the vessel or up to 30° on the side.
Make sure the pin is not locked in the manual furler's nozzle.
Tripping the breaker too often will finally lead to wear and tear the worm gear system of the gear-box, and wear on the carbon brushes of the motor.

The furlers you have on the Maramu should be used with care and always with eased sheets.

HAVE A GOOD DAY !

Olivier


On Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:20 PM, "jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
[Attachment(s) from jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] included below]
Got it sorted, mostly.  

It turned out that as you all said, it was the breakers.  They're located in the companionway on this boat.  And now I know what "mat" and "bome" mean!  Thanks, Eric and Olivier, for helping me understand why I would hear a solenoid even when the breakers were off.

Now here's a puzzle: When I disengaged the furling motor to manually furl in the last little bit of the main the other day, I found a weird little broken piece of some kind of pressed material taking the torque from the furling motor to the furling unit (photo attached).  This must not be original equipment, right?  Could I maybe replace it with just a little block of aluminum or something?  

Jacob Champness
Maramu 202 - Lark
St. Martin





Plugged cable ducts in main mast - Maramu

calbyy@...
 

what happens when foam plugs & cables & leader lines meet & pool together to block a cable guide duct in the main mast is a thick, tight plug which does not budge neither under pressure or pull.

Happens on my main mast (similar o, mizzen but easier to solve); we have been strugling for the last 3 days & managed a picture & video of the culprit after buying (35 Euros) the much needed chinese made endoscope - (will post pictures next).

Decided on drilling out the plug, attacking the foam plug, to disorganise the loops & blocks stuck into the PVC split duct. Made & 6 meters drill with wooden drill welded one end & a steel eye the other end. Will ease drilling with pressurized water to soften material & circulate dirt .

wish me luck, might find petrol or gas if insisting.

Anyone met a similar condition when replacing cables ?

Any other solution to displace a plug Inside a duct without getting stuck on rivets heads or joint in pipes ?

I am all ears.

Note : Mast is Hz on ground (changing rigging)

fair winds


christian Alby on Désirade VIII - Maramu 168 - Now in Port Leucate Med sea