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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rolly Tasker Contact - Phuket

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I have done business with Rolly Tasker. 

I would be cautious because they import a huge amount of stainless from China. And as you know, Chinese 316 SS is not always 316. 

I had great service from Rolly Tasker when we were in Thailand. I had some minor sail repair, had them put a sock on the Mizzen Ballooner, and had them make new lifeline wire for Port and Starboard. The price was satisfactory and the overall quality good with the sail labor quality being outstanding.  


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jun 16, 2017 13:24, "tfortner1975@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Sven Cornelius, CEO
Rolly Tasker Sails (Thailand) Co. Ltd.
84/2 Moo 2, Chaofa Road,
T. Vichit, A. Muang,
Phuket 83000 Thailand

E-Mail: sven@...
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Duo D60 Problems

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Duane
I would never use my water maker in muddy water. Too much filth to strain out. If you do you should change the filters often.  Hope none of the filth is getting to your membranes.
Cheers
Danny
SM299
Ocean Pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 13 Jun 2017 8:53 p.m., "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the reply Bill.


I should have noted I washed the pre-filter thinking it could be a blockage and it still shuts down.  It's odd though, because sometimes it will run for two hours or more without a problem.

The pre-filters I use are washable, but maybe there's a limit to that.  I'll put a new one in and see if that helps.  Here in Lake Worth the water is pretty muddy, but I was having the problem in the Bahamas as well.

I don't have a feed pump, the CAT pump is plumbed directly to the pre-filter.

Duane


Langkawi Contact

tfortner1975
 

POC - located at Royal Langkawi Yacht Club, southeastern side. 

Paul

He looked after our Santorin for us at a great price, arranged a diver to clean the prop prior to our arrival, can arrange fuel and a host of other items. Highly recommended should you need a contact or must leave your boat there. 

Trevor 
SV Iris, SN 027
Phuket - on the hard 


Rolly Tasker Contact - Phuket

tfortner1975
 

Sven Cornelius, CEO
Rolly Tasker Sails (Thailand) Co. Ltd.
84/2 Moo 2, Chaofa Road,
T. Vichit, A. Muang,
Phuket 83000 Thailand

E-Mail: sven@...
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard deposits on 8-month old water heater heating unit

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Francisco,

I am 99% sure that the shore water had high mineral deposits. Did you  check the TDS of the shore water?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:26 PM, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello,


After 8 months of use, the heating unit on our Quick B3 heater came out completely covered in hard white deposits.  It was a bit difficult to pull it out from its slot and some of the deposits fell inside the heater.


Please consider the attached picture.  I will now install our spare.  Both the used unit and the spare are factory-original Quick parts.


Is this a water quality problem?  We were 3 months on municipal water in Venice and we filled the tank thrice on separate visits to the marina in Tivat, Montenegro over a 5-week period.  As a full tank lasts a while, the use is:

• 5 months shore water

• 3 months watermaker water.  The watermaker works at 150 PPM.


Or is this an electrical problem?  The heater was set to Max (80°C).  I will now set it to 70°C.


Tips or comments much appreciated.



Peregrinus

SM2K N. 350 (2002)

At anchor, Bozburun {Muğla, Turkey}

 



Re: Hard deposits on 8-month old water heater heating unit

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Photo attached (again)


Hard deposits on 8-month old water heater heating unit

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hello,


After 8 months of use, the heating unit on our Quick B3 heater came out completely covered in hard white deposits.  It was a bit difficult to pull it out from its slot and some of the deposits fell inside the heater.


Please consider the attached picture.  I will now install our spare.  Both the used unit and the spare are factory-original Quick parts.


Is this a water quality problem?  We were 3 months on municipal water in Venice and we filled the tank thrice on separate visits to the marina in Tivat, Montenegro over a 5-week period.  As a full tank lasts a while, the use is:

• 5 months shore water

• 3 months watermaker water.  The watermaker works at 150 PPM.


Or is this an electrical problem?  The heater was set to Max (80°C).  I will now set it to 70°C.


Tips or comments much appreciated.



Peregrinus

SM2K N. 350 (2002)

At anchor, Bozburun {Muğla, Turkey}

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furuno GP-80 Self-test failure

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Drew,

Do you have your Furuno GP80 Manual? When you replaced the battery, it is likely that you changed some DATA settings.

Using your manual check DATA 1 through DATA 4 Output settings.

If you do not have the manual, let me know, I can email it to you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:02 PM, drew.gaffney@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Our GPS internal battery (CR2450) recently failed.  We replaced it and set it up per the manual.  Before and after the setup, the self-test gives NG (NOT GOOD) for all data outputs.  The program I use to multiplex the GPS data to various devices now says "no signal) but shows the GPS and distributes it as before.  
I did not find anything on the web nor in the Amel User Group.   (An odd, probably related problem, Airmail Position reports suddenly started rejected course because it doesn't accept "Magnetic heading".  This has not happened before.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Drew
SY Revelation SM390
Lying Stockholm SE 



Furuno GP-80 Self-test failure

drew.gaffney@...
 

Our GPS internal battery (CR2450) recently failed.  We replaced it and set it up per the manual.  Before and after the setup, the self-test gives NG (NOT GOOD) for all data outputs.  The program I use to multiplex the GPS data to various devices now says "no signal) but shows the GPS and distributes it as before.  
I did not find anything on the web nor in the Amel User Group.   (An odd, probably related problem, Airmail Position reports suddenly started rejected course because it doesn't accept "Magnetic heading".  This has not happened before.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Drew
SY Revelation SM390
Lying Stockholm SE 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

Porter McRoberts
 

Yes indeed. Congratulations!! Great adventure ahead.

Porter


On Jun 16, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Trifin trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Congratulations Chris. Enjoy the adventure!
Fair winds,
Dean
Amel 54 #TBD
(Still looking!)


On 16 Jun 2017, at 4:06 pm, rettirc@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Everything has finally paid off, we have concluded our search for a Super Maramu, we are in contract to purchase "Lena S", SM224, she is a 1998 boat.


We plan to start the adventures in the later half of July, she is located in Phuket, Thailand.
There is quite a long list of jobs that we intend to do, so i look forward to any suggestions and helpful hints.

We are undecided on the name, but likely to leave it as "Lena" and probably register her Australian flag.

Some of the things we are planning short term are replacing the standing and running rigging, maybe a new main and genoa.  Just want to check spare main and headsail first.

I need to also order a Raymarine radar antenna/scanner. 2 or 4KW?  Size? 24"?  Pros/cons?

Lots to think about and plan over the next month, not to mention pack up all of our household belongings and find some sort of storage.

We are a family of 4 with 2 boys aged 3 and 4.  Not sure about itinerary but likely stay in Thailand for 2-3 months and ease into living onboard without any stress of long passages.  this time shall also be used to bring the vessel up to standard and work out what equipment we need.

Lots to do, but very exciting.  

Chris Shiels
+61 424 521 357




Porter McRoberts
Ibis: 54-152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

Dean Gillies
 

Congratulations Chris. Enjoy the adventure!
Fair winds,
Dean
Amel 54 #TBD
(Still looking!)


On 16 Jun 2017, at 4:06 pm, rettirc@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Everything has finally paid off, we have concluded our search for a Super Maramu, we are in contract to purchase "Lena S", SM224, she is a 1998 boat.


We plan to start the adventures in the later half of July, she is located in Phuket, Thailand.
There is quite a long list of jobs that we intend to do, so i look forward to any suggestions and helpful hints.

We are undecided on the name, but likely to leave it as "Lena" and probably register her Australian flag.

Some of the things we are planning short term are replacing the standing and running rigging, maybe a new main and genoa.  Just want to check spare main and headsail first.

I need to also order a Raymarine radar antenna/scanner. 2 or 4KW?  Size? 24"?  Pros/cons?

Lots to think about and plan over the next month, not to mention pack up all of our household belongings and find some sort of storage.

We are a family of 4 with 2 boys aged 3 and 4.  Not sure about itinerary but likely stay in Thailand for 2-3 months and ease into living onboard without any stress of long passages.  this time shall also be used to bring the vessel up to standard and work out what equipment we need.

Lots to do, but very exciting.  

Chris Shiels
+61 424 521 357


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

Sheriffdep
 

Chris, Congratulations of the finding and planned purchase. I am in a similar "boat' where my purchase will be in the later of 2018 for a 2019 early departure date. Just have to finish obligations with work before leaving. 

1. Please watch the Thailand import taxes and rates for getting work done there. I believe Rolly Tasker is in Thailand, so they might be of some assistance for the rigging gear, quality of SS should be on par with them. 
2. If I am correct in my reading------the front mainstay (jib/genoa) bottom turnbuckle is different than all the others. You will likely NEED to order that through Amel so you have it. The rigging companies have similar pieces, however on the SM the part is shorter due to the furling motor and they wont have one that works. S/V DELOS has a video showing removal and the part on youtube if you desire. 
3. I would specifically speak to Bill Rouse for any and all information that he has gathered over the years for the boat. As a resource, no matter how good of a sailor or expert in repairs you are, he has photos  and specific how-to's that are available. He has actually formed an Amel school where he teaches all that is needed to new owners. Invaluable to an owner IMHO. 

Good luck, and keep us informed for what your doing,


 
Andrew L Prentice
843-450-3141
240 Portrush Loop
PO Box 1691
Pawleys Island, SC 29585
Intelligence Analyst/Law Enforcement Professional United States



From: "itsfun1 Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

 
Congratulations enjoy your new adventure. 
Cheers 
Courtney 
S/V Trippin
54 #101



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "rettirc@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: 6/16/17 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

 
Everything has finally paid off, we have concluded our search for a Super Maramu, we are in contract to purchase "Lena S", SM224, she is a 1998 boat.

We plan to start the adventures in the later half of July, she is located in Phuket, Thailand.
There is quite a long list of jobs that we intend to do, so i look forward to any suggestions and helpful hints.

We are undecided on the name, but likely to leave it as "Lena" and probably register her Australian flag.

Some of the things we are planning short term are replacing the standing and running rigging, maybe a new main and genoa.  Just want to check spare main and headsail first.

I need to also order a Raymarine radar antenna/scanner. 2 or 4KW?  Size? 24"?  Pros/cons?

Lots to think about and plan over the next month, not to mention pack up all of our househo ld belongings and find some sort of storage.

We are a family of 4 with 2 boys aged 3 and 4.  Not sure about itinerary but likely stay in Thailand for 2-3 months and ease into living onboard without any stress of long passages.  this time shall also be used to bring the vessel up to standard and work out what equipment we need.

Lots to do, but very exciting.  

Chris Shiels
+61 424 521 357




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Chris,

Congratulations on your new boat, and I think you will be very happy with your choice. 

With regards to a new Radar, are you also buying a new multi-function display, and if not, what model do you currently have?

Best Regards,

Steve and Liz Davis
Aloha SM72
Aruba

On Jun 16, 2017, at 08:06, rettirc@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Everything has finally paid off, we have concluded our search for a Super Maramu, we are in contract to purchase "Lena S", SM224, she is a 1998 boat.


We plan to start the adventures in the later half of July, she is located in Phuket, Thailand.
There is quite a long list of jobs that we intend to do, so i look forward to any suggestions and helpful hints.

We are undecided on the name, but likely to leave it as "Lena" and probably register her Australian flag.

Some of the things we are planning short term are replacing the standing and running rigging, maybe a new main and genoa.  Just want to check spare main and headsail first.

I need to also order a Raymarine radar antenna/scanner. 2 or 4KW?  Size? 24"?  Pros/cons?

Lots to think about and plan over the next month, not to mention pack up all of our household belongings and find some sort of storage.

We are a family of 4 with 2 boys aged 3 and 4.  Not sure about itinerary but likely stay in Thailand for 2-3 months and ease into living onboard without any stress of long passages.  this time shall also be used to bring the vessel up to standard and work out what equipment we need.

Lots to do, but very exciting.  

Chris Shiels
+61 424 521 357


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

Courtney Gorman
 

Congratulations enjoy your new adventure. 
Cheers 
Courtney 
S/V Trippin
54 #101



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "rettirc@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 6/16/17 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

 

Everything has finally paid off, we have concluded our search for a Super Maramu, we are in contract to purchase "Lena S", SM224, she is a 1998 boat.


We plan to start the adventures in the later half of July, she is located in Phuket, Thailand.
There is quite a long list of jobs that we intend to do, so i look forward to any suggestions and helpful hints.

We are undecided on the name, but likely to leave it as "Lena" and probably register her Australian flag.

Some of the things we are planning short term are replacing the standing and running rigging, maybe a new main and genoa.  Just want to check spare main and headsail first.

I need to also order a Raymarine radar antenna/scanner. 2 or 4KW?  Size? 24"?  Pros/cons?

Lots to think about and plan over the next month, not to mention pack up all of our househo ld belongings and find some sort of storage.

We are a family of 4 with 2 boys aged 3 and 4.  Not sure about itinerary but likely stay in Thailand for 2-3 months and ease into living onboard without any stress of long passages.  this time shall also be used to bring the vessel up to standard and work out what equipment we need.

Lots to do, but very exciting.  

Chris Shiels
+61 424 521 357


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Chris,

Congratulations and good luck. 

When we were in Thailand we were surprised with the up to 100% import duty for parts, paying $1,000USD for a Yanmar OEM exhaust elbow. If that is still the case, you should consider the import duty as you make plans. The duty varies depending on what the item is made of. You willl find the best information that I know of here: http://www.noonsite.com/Countries/Thailand?rc=Formalities#Customs 

Also, since rigging is also stainless steel, I assume that most of the rigging available in Thailand will be of questionable quality. If that is true, maybe you should consider re-rigging elsewhere. Check it out.

I am not sure how to avoid customs duty on your purchase. Consider this important item.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Beko No. WMB51022YU Washing machine in Martinique

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Galacsea2000,

I am preparing this procedure for my Amel School Book. 

As I said previously, if you will email me at brouse"at"gmail.com I will email you a draft. I don't​ have your email address. If I did, you would already have the draft. 

When I am satisfied with the draft, I will publish it publicly. In fact, you can help me publish it by proofing it as you do it.

 The ball is in your court. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jun 16, 2017 01:15, "galacsea2000" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Would anyone post the written procedures and photos on how to remove and replace the washer on the 54?
This group would greatly appreciate it.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

eric freedman
 

Congratulations—The adventure begins.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 9:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

 

 

Everything has finally paid off, we have concluded our search for a Super Maramu, we are in contract to purchase "Lena S", SM224, she is a 1998 boat.

 

We plan to start the adventures in the later half of July, she is located in Phuket, Thailand.

There is quite a long list of jobs that we intend to do, so i look forward to any suggestions and helpful hints.

 

We are undecided on the name, but likely to leave it as "Lena" and probably register her Australian flag.

 

Some of the things we are planning short term are replacing the standing and running rigging, maybe a new main and genoa.  Just want to check spare main and headsail first.

 

I need to also order a Raymarine radar antenna/scanner. 2 or 4KW?  Size? 24"?  Pros/cons?

 

Lots to think about and plan over the next month, not to mention pack up all of our household belongings and find some sort of storage.

 

We are a family of 4 with 2 boys aged 3 and 4.  Not sure about itinerary but likely stay in Thailand for 2-3 months and ease into living onboard without any stress of long passages.  this time shall also be used to bring the vessel up to standard and work out what equipment we need.

 

Lots to do, but very exciting.  

 

Chris Shiels

+61 424 521 357

 


Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

rettirc@...
 

Everything has finally paid off, we have concluded our search for a Super Maramu, we are in contract to purchase "Lena S", SM224, she is a 1998 boat.

We plan to start the adventures in the later half of July, she is located in Phuket, Thailand.
There is quite a long list of jobs that we intend to do, so i look forward to any suggestions and helpful hints.

We are undecided on the name, but likely to leave it as "Lena" and probably register her Australian flag.

Some of the things we are planning short term are replacing the standing and running rigging, maybe a new main and genoa.  Just want to check spare main and headsail first.

I need to also order a Raymarine radar antenna/scanner. 2 or 4KW?  Size? 24"?  Pros/cons?

Lots to think about and plan over the next month, not to mention pack up all of our household belongings and find some sort of storage.

We are a family of 4 with 2 boys aged 3 and 4.  Not sure about itinerary but likely stay in Thailand for 2-3 months and ease into living onboard without any stress of long passages.  this time shall also be used to bring the vessel up to standard and work out what equipment we need.

Lots to do, but very exciting.  

Chris Shiels
+61 424 521 357


Re: Beko No. WMB51022YU Washing machine in Martinique

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

Would anyone post the written procedures and photos on how to remove and replace the washer on the 54?
This group would greatly appreciate it.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sloop rig santorin, Stainless steel bolts on the mast foot?

david bruce
 

Thanks for the information Olivier.  I am not concerned about the mast, survey did not mention the bolts.  I m sure, although well qualified but not an Amel specialist he assumed they were standard, ( you were unavailable at the time I m afraid), I ll address the paint as typical and worry about other things! 

The main foot is perhaps 1 meter short of full boom length and also estimate it is .5 meter from full hoist, but I just cannot see ever getting any more sail material into the mast.  

Although perhaps sacrilegious to ask, have you ever seen a conversion to mainsail slab reefing on an Amel, perhaps using a slide in track.  Although very early in my ownership, I have this nagging fear that getting that sail in in all but ideal conditions could prove a problem. 

Would you have a contact/recommendation for someone at Amel in Hyeres who might do a brief inspection and answer some questions I have about the systems and mystery breakers/switches etc.?  

Thanks for sharing all your expertise, it's very generous if you.  

Best Regards,  Dave Bruce,  s/v Liesse   SN 006  


On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Dave,

due to the age of your Santorin, your mainsail is probably not original, but I'm sure the sailmaker who made it, made a mainsail like the original, with the same dimensions.
The mainsail on a Santorin sloop is indeed bigger than on a ketch and I hope you are not sailing your sloop with a ketch mainsail !
The genoa on a Santorin sloop is indeed bigger than on a ketch.
The compression on the mast is made from the mainsail AND the genoa.
The compression on a Santorin sloop mast is indeed higher than on a ketch.

No, the boom is not the only difference...

I don't know how many Santorins are equipped with this reinforcement at mast foot.
I have never heard of another Santorin mast front bottom collapsing during my 19 years at AMEL and since 1990.
The recall was made in order to avoid new cases 
This part of the mast with stainless steel bolts should not corrode more than the other areas of the mast where stainless steel is close to painted aluminum (goose-neck, winches and spreaders fittings). So, just check corrosion around these bolts but also on the whole mast, and if you or your surveyor thinks it is too much, then it may be time for a new mast paint...

If you purchased your Santorin with the advice of a surveyor, what did he say about these bolts and the general corrosion of the mast paint?

Olivier.




On Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:48 AM, "david bruce davidcbruce57@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hello, 
 We are on a shakedown of our new and beautiful SN006 Liesse, in South Of France, which although going very well and stunningly beautiful I have taken to calling the Motorterranean! 
 I do have the 4 ss bolts securing a large somewhat substantial hemispherical reinforcement bar on the leading edge of the mast.  Surrounding paint at bolt and inspection plate on stb side which is aluminum do show a bit of dissimilar metal paint lifting but it seems superficial and is on my list to address.  
I am curious about your statement about the compression loads on the Santorin sloop Olivier, as it is my understanding that it is the same mast as the ketch but with a longer boom.  On our boat the main sail is well short of the full length of the boom which I assumed is due to an inability of the mast to accommodate any more rolled sail. (clearly no more room when furler).  So it does appear the main is underpowered, is this typical of the sloops?  Also IF the boom is the only thing different on the sloop rig how does this serve increase the compression loads of the mast that you mentioned.  Finally are there any ongoing structural concerns regarding this mast reinforcement which those of us with these earlier boats should be aware?   Sorry to be so long winded.  

Thanks and best regards,  Dave Bruce   s/v Liesse. SN006, 


On Jun 12, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hello,

yes there are several Santorins (probably only sloops) that have a main mast with a backing aluminum bar (inside the mast) at the front bottom, and bolted with 4 stainless steel bolts (with SS and nylon washers).
It happened once that one of the first Santorins (sloop but not the one our unknown writer talks about)  came back from its maiden cruising navigation with the front bottom part of the main mast collapsed. The aluminum had suffered too much compression and showed slight wrinkles.
The vessel was not showing grounding signs, and no evidence of a bad mast setting (installing the mastfoot not flat on deck, but too much on the front edge) was found.
The cause was probably the vessel beating in strong winds and choppy seas, AND a too thin skin at the bottom of the extrusion. Why only at the bottom?
For those who are not familiar with aluminum extrusion process, and to make it short:
In the aluminum factory, the aluminum alloy, warmed up (but not melting, otherwise this is cast aluminum), is pushed through a matrix with the shape of the mast's profile.
This "tube" is then rolling on roller bars and "strechted" to make it "straight" and not twisted or curved.
During the stretching process, it is possible that the thickness of the aluminum shows too thin areas, or too much curve, or too much twist. The extrusion is thus rejected and recycled.
The faulty mast was probably made of an extrusion that "escaped" the checking process.
So, AMEL decided to install a piece of aluminum of about 50 cm length, 2cm thickness, with the shape of the curved front face of the mast, inside the mast, stepped on the mast's sole, and bolted with 4 S/S bolts.
I cannot tell how many Santorins were treated by AMEL like this. However, this may concern the Santorins sloop with masts of the same batch. AMEL had extrusions made by 20 or 30 units, so this may affect only the Santorins  sloops delivered with masts of the same batch.
This means maybe only 7 or 8 Santorins sloops of 1990/1991.
Why only sloops? Because the compression is higher with a sloop as there is more sail area on the mast than on a kectch main mast.

I'm sure AMEL did the right thing when they (Captain Amel and Jacques Carteau) decided to make this reinforcement system.
Just like when AMEL decided to make a recall on all the AMEL 54 main masts...

Now, for those who own a Santorin sloop and read this post, I'm sure you will have a close look at your mast foot !!

Like Craig, I can't wait to know who set this question... I may give him a lot more answers about the whole vessel (this is called a survey).
And this is definitely the right behavior on this forum.

Olivier.


On Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:25 PM, "Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
No bolts on my sloop mast foot. SN 24 1990

Ric Gottschalk
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On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:02 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
I agree with Eric. Contact Olivier Beaute gmail.com>

I also agree with Craig...I do not believe those bolts are original.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
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On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:59 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
HI,
If you are considering this boat, why don’t you contact  Olivier to look at the boat?
He does not live too far away.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sloop rig santorin, Stainless steel bolts on the mast foot?
 
 
Perhaps you could introduce yourself - are you shopping for an Amel? What's your name? home port, etc.
There are no bolts on the forward face of the original Santorin mast.
Craig, SN#68 Sangaris
Hi every body and thank you in advance for sharin your knowledge!
 
I have visited a 1991 sloop rigged Santorin in La Rochelle couple days ago.
The boat is fine. But i have been very surprised by discovering on the forward face of the mast foot three big stainless steel bolts.
Is it a standard feature?
What is its purpose?
The paint on the mast was tearing around these bolts, is this a sign of ss/aluminium bad neighbourhood?