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new Rigg on SM2000

Eloi Bamberg
 

Hallo,
Im am in the process of buying a SM2000 from 2004. The standing rigg has to
be changed. Amel in Hyères proposed to me the company "Sea Nergie Nautic"
(former Rousseau) to do the work. They made a quite interesting offer with
fittings from ACMO but the cables would not be from ACMO but from WDI in
Germany. Does anybody have experiences with those cables or would you
recommend to use cables from ACMO. Many thanks for your help.

Eloi
SM 2000 #426 (hopefully in 3 Weeks)
Re: Furling Main Motor

amelforme
 

There would have been a fiberglass shroud to protect it from the elements .

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Tim Bowser <tim.bowser01@...> wrote:



I recently bought a Maramu hull #188.  The previous owner used windlass motors as replacements for the furling on the main.  They seem to be corroding quickly since they were not built to be exposed to the elements.  Does anyone know what originally would have been here?  

-Tim

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Furling Main Motor

Tim Bowser
 

I recently bought a Maramu hull #188.  The previous owner used windlass motors as replacements for the furling on the main.  They seem to be corroding quickly since they were not built to be exposed to the elements.  Does anyone know what originally would have been here?  

-Tim
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi James;

 

We are currently wintering ( And “summering” I guess) in Montenegro. We highly recommend Montenegro, especially Porto Montenegro. We cruised Albania for a week last year. If you are just planning on checking in and out, Saranda will be a great option. It is only a few miles across from Corfu. An agent was referred to us by our agent (and now a good friend) in Corfu. She was very professional and took care of everything. The dock in Saranda is not the best, but will be safe, if no southerly component to the wind conditions.

 

Let me know if you need the agent’s contact information.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Alton via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 10:17 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

 

Mohammad and Aty,

 

   Thanks for this information and also for the warning about opinions and responses possibly varying with officials.  I am hoping to return to the boat in time to have the option to make a short trip to either Albania or Montenegro before the time actually runs out.  We had a wonderful time in Montenegro in 2019 btw.  Does anyone have any advice for visiting at least the South portion of Albania to get the clock reset on the VAT issue?  Our destination will actually be Izmir to have the boat measured for new sails so Albania is going in the wrong direction but I don’t think there would be enough time to reach Izmir without going over the 18 month limit.  Cruising has certainly become more complicated!

 

Thanks again!

 

Best,

James

SV Sueño

Maramu #220

 

   

 

   

On Aug 3, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

 

When we were wintering in Greece, this is the same information we were told. The time that the cruising permit is surrendered to customs, is not counted towards the 18 month time limit.

 

However, opinions and responses vary drastically in the EU, depending on the country and the official you are talking to. We did take this issue seriously, but in our 6 years of cruising the Med, we have never been faced with an inquiry from any official regarding the amount of time Kokomo has been in EU waters.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Alton via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 7:20 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

 

Bill,

 

   Depending on when Greece reopens to US travellers, I am potentially in a very similar situation with regard to the VAT and the 18 month limit.  My boat is located in Preveza, Greece and I have been using an agent there named Sofia to handle the paperwork.  I inquired with her on this issue and received the response posted below:

 

Hello

James

As long as the transit log deposit to the the customs office the clock is stopped

So the sueno can stay without VAT mire time than 18 months.

 

 

Beat regards

Sofia Gravani

Agency manager

 

(Sofia placed the transit log for Sueño with the customs office last October)

 

Despite this positive response I am still concerned about going over the 18 month limit.  Do you feel that this information is adequate or should I follow up and try to verify this information?  If you recommend that I verify then would you know who I should contact?

 

Thanks,

 

James Alton

SV Sueño

Maramu #220

 

On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:49 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

 

Joerg,

 

For what it is worth, I found the strictest countries to be Spain and Greece and the most liberal, Malta. Of course, this was my experience several years ago, and as you know the customs officer that you approach varies, some strict, some not. Some Ships Agents get away with everything, some get away with nothing. Some owners are shown leniency from an official, while the same official is strict with another vessel's owner. 

 

Another side note: I really hated to meet with a customs official who was just "lectured to" by an English speaking person, telling him how to do his job. That official assumed the worst with me, simply because I spoke English.

 

I would try another Ship's Agent, hopefully 3rd-party recommended. I heard that these disputes can wind up in a local court with a judge making the final decision. Even though this can be expensive hiring a lawyer, in the end, this could be good for you, unless the judge had a not-so-good experience with someone he associates with you (like my example above).

 

I hope this helps, at least somewhat.

 

Bill

 

 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

  

 

 

 

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 8:25 AM Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

My boat - US flagged - is in Spain on the hard and I am getting close to the maximum 18 months temporary importation period for VAT purposes.  Keeping the boat in Europe past the 18 months would mean that I owe VAT on the value of the boat.  Yet I cannot currently travel to the boat from the US and have had to cancel my entire season, including a sail to the Faroe Islands to get out of the EU customs zone and reset my 18 months.  The EU indicated in March that local customs offices should show flexibility in situations like mine.  So I engaged a customs agent is Spain to get me an extension of the 18 months to next summer.  They just got back to me that they could not help me.  Has anyone had success with Spanish customs (or French customs) on this issue?  I’m thinking of sailing the boat to France if the French are more helpful.  Many thanks for any help you can provide!


joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem, Vigo Spain

 

 

 

 
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

Matt Salatino
 

We are US-flagged, in Gibraltar now, on the Spanish side (Marina Alcaidesa). We took a bike trip into Gibraltar, and stopped at Queensway Marina to ask if we could restart our 18 month clock by checking into their marina for one night. They said yes, and they could handle the clearance particulars for us. We are not running out f time, but might do this before we move into the Med, just as insurance.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 3, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster@...> wrote:

France will certainly not be “more” helpful.  

Don’t play game with the customs, especially not the French.  

“They” will decided on the value of your boat to charge you the 20% VAT.  

Can’t you sail to Morocco, Tunisia, Turkey?  Any non-EU country?  


Sincerely, Alexandre


On Monday, August 3, 2020, 08:24:10 AM CDT, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313@...> wrote:


My boat - US flagged - is in Spain on the hard and I am getting close to the maximum 18 months temporary importation period for VAT purposes.  Keeping the boat in Europe past the 18 months would mean that I owe VAT on the value of the boat.  Yet I cannot currently travel to the boat from the US and have had to cancel my entire season, including a sail to the Faroe Islands to get out of the EU customs zone and reset my 18 months.  The EU indicated in March that local customs offices should show flexibility in situations like mine.  So I engaged a customs agent is Spain to get me an extension of the 18 months to next summer.  They just got back to me that they could not help me.  Has anyone had success with Spanish customs (or French customs) on this issue?  I’m thinking of sailing the boat to France if the French are more helpful.  Many thanks for any help you can provide!


joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem, Vigo Spain
Re: New England Lobster Pots

karkauai
 

Thanks James, I'd figured that out. Now in 20 kts on the beam in 200ft and just a few pots now.


On Aug 3, 2020 11:53 AM, "James Alton via groups.io" <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:
Bill,
   I forgot to add that most of the deep water pots will have a second smaller float on them called a toggle.  The toggle aids in preventing the main float from being pulled underwater due to current or wind.  Try to avoid passing between the toggle and the main float since the pick-up line runs between these two floats.  Best of luck. James.  

On Aug 3, 2020 11:13 AM, "karkauai via groups.io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

James Alton
 

Mohammad and Aty,

   Thanks for this information and also for the warning about opinions and responses possibly varying with officials.  I am hoping to return to the boat in time to have the option to make a short trip to either Albania or Montenegro before the time actually runs out.  We had a wonderful time in Montenegro in 2019 btw.  Does anyone have any advice for visiting at least the South portion of Albania to get the clock reset on the VAT issue?  Our destination will actually be Izmir to have the boat measured for new sails so Albania is going in the wrong direction but I don’t think there would be enough time to reach Izmir without going over the 18 month limit.  Cruising has certainly become more complicated!

Thanks again!

Best,
James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

   

   
On Aug 3, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

When we were wintering in Greece, this is the same information we were told. The time that the cruising permit is surrendered to customs, is not counted towards the 18 month time limit.
 
However, opinions and responses vary drastically in the EU, depending on the country and the official you are talking to. We did take this issue seriously, but in our 6 years of cruising the Med, we have never been faced with an inquiry from any official regarding the amount of time Kokomo has been in EU waters.
 
Happy Sailing;
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Alton via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 7:20 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule
 
Bill,
 
   Depending on when Greece reopens to US travellers, I am potentially in a very similar situation with regard to the VAT and the 18 month limit.  My boat is located in Preveza, Greece and I have been using an agent there named Sofia to handle the paperwork.  I inquired with her on this issue and received the response posted below:
 
Hello
James
As long as the transit log deposit to the the customs office the clock is stopped
So the sueno can stay without VAT mire time than 18 months.
 
 
Beat regards
Sofia Gravani
Agency manager
 
(Sofia placed the transit log for Sueño with the customs office last October)
 
Despite this positive response I am still concerned about going over the 18 month limit.  Do you feel that this information is adequate or should I follow up and try to verify this information?  If you recommend that I verify then would you know who I should contact?
 
Thanks,
 
James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220
 
On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:49 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
 
Joerg,
 
For what it is worth, I found the strictest countries to be Spain and Greece and the most liberal, Malta. Of course, this was my experience several years ago, and as you know the customs officer that you approach varies, some strict, some not. Some Ships Agents get away with everything, some get away with nothing. Some owners are shown leniency from an official, while the same official is strict with another vessel's owner. 
 
Another side note: I really hated to meet with a customs official who was just "lectured to" by an English speaking person, telling him how to do his job. That official assumed the worst with me, simply because I spoke English.
 
I would try another Ship's Agent, hopefully 3rd-party recommended. I heard that these disputes can wind up in a local court with a judge making the final decision. Even though this can be expensive hiring a lawyer, in the end, this could be good for you, unless the judge had a not-so-good experience with someone he associates with you (like my example above).
 
I hope this helps, at least somewhat.
 
Bill
 
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
  

 
 
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 8:25 AM Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My boat - US flagged - is in Spain on the hard and I am getting close to the maximum 18 months temporary importation period for VAT purposes.  Keeping the boat in Europe past the 18 months would mean that I owe VAT on the value of the boat.  Yet I cannot currently travel to the boat from the US and have had to cancel my entire season, including a sail to the Faroe Islands to get out of the EU customs zone and reset my 18 months.  The EU indicated in March that local customs offices should show flexibility in situations like mine.  So I engaged a customs agent is Spain to get me an extension of the 18 months to next summer.  They just got back to me that they could not help me.  Has anyone had success with Spanish customs (or French customs) on this issue?  I’m thinking of sailing the boat to France if the French are more helpful.  Many thanks for any help you can provide!

joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem, Vigo Spain
 
 
 
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

Steven Nieman
 

I would sail to Malta and pay the 6% import tax. 🤓

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 3 aug. 2020 om 16:11 heeft Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@gmx.de> het volgende geschreven:

He Joerg

why don't you check if you can sail to England? Thy leave the eu some month ago.

if it is allowed to enter the EU for us members
furthermore , entry restrictions are in place to the EU .




Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

Matt Salatino
 

How about the Channel Islands, or Gibraltar?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

My boat - US flagged - is in Spain on the hard and I am getting close to the maximum 18 months temporary importation period for VAT purposes.  Keeping the boat in Europe past the 18 months would mean that I owe VAT on the value of the boat.  Yet I cannot currently travel to the boat from the US and have had to cancel my entire season, including a sail to the Faroe Islands to get out of the EU customs zone and reset my 18 months.  The EU indicated in March that local customs offices should show flexibility in situations like mine.  So I engaged a customs agent is Spain to get me an extension of the 18 months to next summer.  They just got back to me that they could not help me.  Has anyone had success with Spanish customs (or French customs) on this issue?  I’m thinking of sailing the boat to France if the French are more helpful.  Many thanks for any help you can provide!


joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem, Vigo Spain
Re: New England Lobster Pots

James Alton
 

Bill,
   I forgot to add that most of the deep water pots will have a second smaller float on them called a toggle.  The toggle aids in preventing the main float from being pulled underwater due to current or wind.  Try to avoid passing between the toggle and the main float since the pick-up line runs between these two floats.  Best of luck. James.  

On Aug 3, 2020 11:13 AM, "karkauai via groups.io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

Mohammad Shirloo
 

When we were wintering in Greece, this is the same information we were told. The time that the cruising permit is surrendered to customs, is not counted towards the 18 month time limit.

 

However, opinions and responses vary drastically in the EU, depending on the country and the official you are talking to. We did take this issue seriously, but in our 6 years of cruising the Med, we have never been faced with an inquiry from any official regarding the amount of time Kokomo has been in EU waters.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Alton via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 7:20 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

 

Bill,

 

   Depending on when Greece reopens to US travellers, I am potentially in a very similar situation with regard to the VAT and the 18 month limit.  My boat is located in Preveza, Greece and I have been using an agent there named Sofia to handle the paperwork.  I inquired with her on this issue and received the response posted below:

 

Hello

James

As long as the transit log deposit to the the customs office the clock is stopped

So the sueno can stay without VAT mire time than 18 months.

 

 

Beat regards

Sofia Gravani

Agency manager

 

(Sofia placed the transit log for Sueño with the customs office last October)

 

Despite this positive response I am still concerned about going over the 18 month limit.  Do you feel that this information is adequate or should I follow up and try to verify this information?  If you recommend that I verify then would you know who I should contact?

 

Thanks,

 

James Alton

SV Sueño

Maramu #220

 

On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:49 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

 

Joerg,

 

For what it is worth, I found the strictest countries to be Spain and Greece and the most liberal, Malta. Of course, this was my experience several years ago, and as you know the customs officer that you approach varies, some strict, some not. Some Ships Agents get away with everything, some get away with nothing. Some owners are shown leniency from an official, while the same official is strict with another vessel's owner. 

 

Another side note: I really hated to meet with a customs official who was just "lectured to" by an English speaking person, telling him how to do his job. That official assumed the worst with me, simply because I spoke English.

 

I would try another Ship's Agent, hopefully 3rd-party recommended. I heard that these disputes can wind up in a local court with a judge making the final decision. Even though this can be expensive hiring a lawyer, in the end, this could be good for you, unless the judge had a not-so-good experience with someone he associates with you (like my example above).

 

I hope this helps, at least somewhat.

 

Bill

 

 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

  

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 8:25 AM Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

My boat - US flagged - is in Spain on the hard and I am getting close to the maximum 18 months temporary importation period for VAT purposes.  Keeping the boat in Europe past the 18 months would mean that I owe VAT on the value of the boat.  Yet I cannot currently travel to the boat from the US and have had to cancel my entire season, including a sail to the Faroe Islands to get out of the EU customs zone and reset my 18 months.  The EU indicated in March that local customs offices should show flexibility in situations like mine.  So I engaged a customs agent is Spain to get me an extension of the 18 months to next summer.  They just got back to me that they could not help me.  Has anyone had success with Spanish customs (or French customs) on this issue?  I’m thinking of sailing the boat to France if the French are more helpful.  Many thanks for any help you can provide!


joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem, Vigo Spain

 

 

 
Re: File /disk brake A54 slipping shaky.mov uploaded

Ralph Heilig
 

Thank You Bill,

but when the engine is running, the brake is not engaging and the ram is pressed in.

I got the pads from Amel today and will be on the boat on Thursday. I will let you know what I found.

Ralph
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

France will certainly not be “more” helpful.  

Don’t play game with the customs, especially not the French.  

“They” will decided on the value of your boat to charge you the 20% VAT.  

Can’t you sail to Morocco, Tunisia, Turkey?  Any non-EU country?  


Sincerely, Alexandre


On Monday, August 3, 2020, 08:24:10 AM CDT, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313@...> wrote:


My boat - US flagged - is in Spain on the hard and I am getting close to the maximum 18 months temporary importation period for VAT purposes.  Keeping the boat in Europe past the 18 months would mean that I owe VAT on the value of the boat.  Yet I cannot currently travel to the boat from the US and have had to cancel my entire season, including a sail to the Faroe Islands to get out of the EU customs zone and reset my 18 months.  The EU indicated in March that local customs offices should show flexibility in situations like mine.  So I engaged a customs agent is Spain to get me an extension of the 18 months to next summer.  They just got back to me that they could not help me.  Has anyone had success with Spanish customs (or French customs) on this issue?  I’m thinking of sailing the boat to France if the French are more helpful.  Many thanks for any help you can provide!


joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem, Vigo Spain
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

JB Duler
 

Another reliable option is to hire a captain to take her to Tunisia. I have used the Marina Monestir in the past. If you are in the Med, it is an easy trip. Sometimes at this time of the year it involves just motoring on a flat Med, just like glass.

If you are in Vigo, other non EEU options are Morocco (super easy) and  Guernesey, if they have room (more difficult). Sailing North and around Britany could be complicated (storms + massive tides).

This is unfortunate and I am painfully aware of the various trade related disputes between the US and Europe. The US has shown little flexibility, if any, so I would expect the same in return from Europe.

JB
San Francisco

Em seg., 3 de ago. de 2020 às 10:25, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> escreveu:

My boat - US flagged - is in Spain on the hard and I am getting close to the maximum 18 months temporary importation period for VAT purposes.  Keeping the boat in Europe past the 18 months would mean that I owe VAT on the value of the boat.  Yet I cannot currently travel to the boat from the US and have had to cancel my entire season, including a sail to the Faroe Islands to get out of the EU customs zone and reset my 18 months.  The EU indicated in March that local customs offices should show flexibility in situations like mine.  So I engaged a customs agent is Spain to get me an extension of the 18 months to next summer.  They just got back to me that they could not help me.  Has anyone had success with Spanish customs (or French customs) on this issue?  I’m thinking of sailing the boat to France if the French are more helpful.  Many thanks for any help you can provide!


joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem, Vigo Spain
Re: New England Lobster Pots

karkauai
 

Thanks Bill and James, the wind has freshened a bit, and we should be able to sail again soon. More worried about motoring or motor sailiing. Will get into 175 ft or so and see what we run across, so to speak.

Kent

On Aug 3, 2020 10:47 AM, "James Alton via groups.io" <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:
Bill,

   We sailed for 8 seasons in Maine and unfortunately these pots will often be set in waters deeper than 200’.  The deep set ones tend to be the worst since they will have significant ballast  (concrete blocks usually) in the pot to keep the pot from dragging so you don’t want to draw these into your running gear.  Sailing at night is probably ok so long as you clear your prop before starting your engine and getting under power.  You should be able to tell if you are dragging one of these things without going under to have a look since they cause a lot of drag. If things open up and you are able, consider Nova Scotia.  No pots at all on the South Shore during the season and even during the season the pots are minimal.  The water is also much warmer.

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Bill Hall <billhall95688@...> wrote:

Usually past 160 feet of water

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:29 AM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,
We are finally making our way to Maine, first time North of Cape Cod. There are lobster Pots EVERYWHERE, even in 120 feet of water.  We'd like to sail overnight, but don't have a line cutter on the prop.
Does anyone know if there's a depth or distance offshore where we would be unlikely to encounter lobster pots and could safely sail at night?

Thanks,
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243




Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

Roque
 

Joerg. You could try to reach Barbara at info@....  Whatsapp +34  620 87 50 97. She lives in Alicante, and used to be the Amel representative in Spain. Bárbara handled everything I needed during almost 4 years while sailing in the Med.  She became a good friend, since. Even if she can’t help you directly, she may point you to the right direction. She speaks English.  Good luck. 

Roque
Attika  A54 #117
Paraty - Brazil

Em seg., 3 de ago. de 2020 às 10:25, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> escreveu:

My boat - US flagged - is in Spain on the hard and I am getting close to the maximum 18 months temporary importation period for VAT purposes.  Keeping the boat in Europe past the 18 months would mean that I owe VAT on the value of the boat.  Yet I cannot currently travel to the boat from the US and have had to cancel my entire season, including a sail to the Faroe Islands to get out of the EU customs zone and reset my 18 months.  The EU indicated in March that local customs offices should show flexibility in situations like mine.  So I engaged a customs agent is Spain to get me an extension of the 18 months to next summer.  They just got back to me that they could not help me.  Has anyone had success with Spanish customs (or French customs) on this issue?  I’m thinking of sailing the boat to France if the French are more helpful.  Many thanks for any help you can provide!


joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem, Vigo Spain
Re: New England Lobster Pots

James Alton
 

Bill,

   We sailed for 8 seasons in Maine and unfortunately these pots will often be set in waters deeper than 200’.  The deep set ones tend to be the worst since they will have significant ballast  (concrete blocks usually) in the pot to keep the pot from dragging so you don’t want to draw these into your running gear.  Sailing at night is probably ok so long as you clear your prop before starting your engine and getting under power.  You should be able to tell if you are dragging one of these things without going under to have a look since they cause a lot of drag. If things open up and you are able, consider Nova Scotia.  No pots at all on the South Shore during the season and even during the season the pots are minimal.  The water is also much warmer.

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Bill Hall <billhall95688@...> wrote:

Usually past 160 feet of water

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:29 AM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,
We are finally making our way to Maine, first time North of Cape Cod. There are lobster Pots EVERYWHERE, even in 120 feet of water.  We'd like to sail overnight, but don't have a line cutter on the prop.
Does anyone know if there's a depth or distance offshore where we would be unlikely to encounter lobster pots and could safely sail at night?

Thanks,
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243



Re: New England Lobster Pots

Bill Hall
 

Usually past 160 feet of water

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:29 AM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,
We are finally making our way to Maine, first time North of Cape Cod. There are lobster Pots EVERYWHERE, even in 120 feet of water.  We'd like to sail overnight, but don't have a line cutter on the prop.
Does anyone know if there's a depth or distance offshore where we would be unlikely to encounter lobster pots and could safely sail at night?

Thanks,
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243

New England Lobster Pots

karkauai
 

Hi All,
We are finally making our way to Maine, first time North of Cape Cod. There are lobster Pots EVERYWHERE, even in 120 feet of water.  We'd like to sail overnight, but don't have a line cutter on the prop.
Does anyone know if there's a depth or distance offshore where we would be unlikely to encounter lobster pots and could safely sail at night?

Thanks,
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243
Re: Covid, Spanish VAT and the18 month temporary importation rule

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

Hey, Bill
yes, I think this is a matter that can be brought to court , but that would have the risk that the boat will be set up to the verdict or the tax will be deposited .
i would ask a specialist for EU tax law about the exceptions to be provided for here, and I would not rely on the Spanish authorities alone.

Moreover , I must agree with Gerhard , and why should the Spanish be generous in this area , they need every cent

Elja
SM Balu
Kalamata

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