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Re: Onan MDKAV Air Filter Part Number(s)

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Thank you Alan and Bill.

I guess that explains why I was having such difficulty locating the part number!

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Onan MDKAV Air Filter Part Number(s)

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

There is no air filter

Bill
X-BeBe

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:13 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Paul,

I don't think there is an air filter on the MDKAV...mine doesn't have one.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Kind of Bow Thruster problem.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

It could spin at high speed and torque, but not when you turn it by hand.

1. Spin because the pin is broken
2. Spin because gear inside foot has come loose
3. Spin because the splines where the motor shaft and the thruster shaft meet are stripped.
4. Spin because the gears inside the foot are stripped

I would think the most likely is #1 above...and the least likely is #4 above. Oh yes, and it is normal to be able to turn the motor shaft by turning the propeller...It should feel like gears turning

But, it could have been floating plastic causing the prop to temporarily cavitate and the plastic has floated away.

Bill Rouse
X-BeBe

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good afternoon,

Friday, I hear similar (high pitch) sound to a lost propeller on the bow thruster (happened to me 1 year ago).
This morning I dive to inspect the bow thruster, I was expecting to see the propeller missing, but it was on…

It felt strange that I could manually rotate the propeller in the water, I do not remember I could that before… but I could be wrong…

So, I thought may be something was disconnected or broken inside the foot of the bow thruster.
Retrieving it from the water, when I turn the propeller it turns the shaft (connected to the electric motor).

So what could be the cause of the electric motor turning and not the propeller?

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA



replacing headstay

Miles
 

Hello all,

I am  replacing my standing rigging with new rigging from ACMO.  Does anyone have pictures, diagrams, or detailed instructions for re[lacing the headstay?   Will I need any new seals for where the wire goes through the furler? 

Fair winds to all,

Miles  SM 214,  Ladybug

on the hard Newport, RI


Re: Onan MDKAV Air Filter Part Number(s)

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Paul,
I don't think there is an air filter on the MDKAV...mine doesn't have one.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: mizzen stay sail

Gary Wells
 

Paul,
I did opt to run the staysail sheet to the end of the Mizzen boom and had good success. It necessitated lengthening the foot attachment line and raising the sail a bit higher. It kept good shape and was easy enough to manage. By coming forward from the boom end, I now needed a block in the stanchion directly outboard of the smaller winch.
Between the Genoa sheet, the staysail sheet and the mizzen preventer line it's a web :)


Onan MDKAV Air Filter Part Number(s)

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello All,

I am away from the boat and wish to order a new air filter and foam element (if so equipped) for the Onan Generator.   I have searched the parts document (pdf) for the MDKAV in the files section but it does not list or show an air filter.  Web searches have also proved futile.

Does anyone know the part number(s)?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

chris2price@...
 

Hi Danny,

That also sounds like a possible reason for the failure.  I did have it slipping underload.  I guess the wear would be in the main drum below the aluminium drum where the lifting pin is located.  My aluminium drum is made of 2 parts with allen key bolts holding it together.  I may be able to take them off with little effort, although they do have a fair bit of corrosion.  

Thanks,

Chris 


Re: SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

chris2price@...
 

Thanks Bill that is really helpful.

I'm currently trying to get the cover off the motor.  I've taken off the 3 nuts but the cover is not coming off.  There is a rubber insulating gasket between the main assembly and the cover but it's not budging. It could be corrosion around the 3 bolts and the casing.   So far I've been hitting it with a rubber hammer & have poured lots of boiling water over the stainless bolts & casing that held the casing tight.  I'll try again in the morning but any suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

chris2price@...
 

Hi John,

Thanks for the suggestion.  That sounds like a possible solution.  I'd appreciate seeing the pictures if you can send them or put them in a dropbox for download?  You could send them to chris.2.price@...
Thanks again,
Chris


Re: SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

greatketch@...
 

Chris,

The furling drum does not need to come off to get the gear box off, but you do need to disconnect the headstay to drop the gearbox

I'd suggest getting the motor off first, as it is big, heavy and awkward. Getting it out of the way will make everything after that a lot easier.

Put one halyard to the stem (tight!) to support the mast, and rolling hitch the other to the foil to support it while you work below.  It's heavy if it falls on you!

Before you strat, mark the turnbuckle so you know how much to tighten it when you ready to go back together.

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Salinas, PR



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low water pressure after tank cleaning

eric freedman
 

Hi,

Did you find the problem with your tank pickup?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low water pressure after tank cleaning

 

 

So...we had to pull out the refer (frigoboat) to determine why it wasn't getting cold enough (it was at 45 degrees F at the coldest setting).  The foam used for a filter was completely falling apart and plugged.  The heat transfer coil was plugged with dirt.  So we cleaned it up and replaced the filters.

 

While we were at it we decided to clean the water storage tank.  Job done.  

 

However, when we were done and turned the taps on, the flow was substantially diminished.  I assume the pick-up tube picked up some dirt from the tank when we were pumping it down.  We had pumped the tank down to about 300L and then scrubbed with a brush.  Then we pumped it down to just a few inches in the tank, and vacumned the tank with a wet dry vac until it was dry.  We refilled the tank and started using the water when there was a 3 or 4 inches of water in the tank.

 

Right away the flow was reduced by at least half.  I'm assuming due to a chunk the pick-up tube picked up and is blocking flow.  

 

My question: where to look for the plug first?

 

Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM #477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzen stay sail

Mark Pitt
 

Hi,

  I have used a climbers "dog bone" -- a loop of Spectra -- between the block and the stanchion base in order to keep the mizzen staysail sheet a bit further away from all the stuff that I have on the starboard side.

   Mark Pitt, Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Italy


On 4/9/2017 4:10 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Hi,

You are supposed to put a block on the base of one of the aft stanchions and then to the winch. Are you doing this

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzen stay sail

 

 

Hello
When sailing with the mizzen staysail with wind in from starboard, we have no problem with the sheeting point.
But with the wind in from the port side, the sheet interferes both with the ladder outside the rail and with the outboard motor when stored on the rail. Does anyone have any good suggestion for how to arrange sheeting point on the starbiard side
Paul on SYKERPA SM # 295



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzen stay sail

eric freedman
 

Hi,

You are supposed to put a block on the base of one of the aft stanchions and then to the winch. Are you doing this

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzen stay sail

 

 

Hello
When sailing with the mizzen staysail with wind in from starboard, we have no problem with the sheeting point.
But with the wind in from the port side, the sheet interferes both with the ladder outside the rail and with the outboard motor when stored on the rail. Does anyone have any good suggestion for how to arrange sheeting point on the starbiard side
Paul on SYKERPA SM # 295


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

JOHN HAYES
 

Had a similar problem on my  which cost me s new sail in a gale

In our case it was not over difficult to sort

The issue was the worm drive meshed to the motor was not properly engaged to the big bronze gear that rotates the foil

We took the sail off. Undid the forestry

Drilled out the rivets holding the assembly to the foil

Then took the gearbox to s specialist gear maker

He sent the worm drive to another company to skim then used a computer driven machine to make a new gear cog

It fits with the worm much better than the original

The new cog needs to be made with a hard bronze eg an alloy including aluminium I think

Could send pics if you want

Best

John. Hayes

Nga Waka 


On 10/04/2017, at 6:38 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Chris,
A possible cause is the spring loaded pin that locates the pulley at the bottom of the foil to the gearbox. This can be lifted up to free the furler from the gearbox. It is possible for the spring to fail and the pin to lift on its own or for the locating hole to become worn and the pin to slip.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "chris2price@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 3:11 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

 
Hi All,
I think I have a gearbox problem.  When I furl the genoa the motor turns & the sail furls a bit then stops, while the motor continues, then it catches for a bit & then stops again. Etc, etc.
Does anyone have any sketches or diagrams for pulling it apart?  Can anything be done without taking down the forestay?
Many thanks,
Chris Price
Rhumb Runner SM #464
Currently in Las Palmas, Gran Canaria



[Amel Yacht Owners] New Kind of Bow Thruster problem.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon,

Friday, I hear similar (high pitch) sound to a lost propeller on the bow thruster (happened to me 1 year ago).
This morning I dive to inspect the bow thruster, I was expecting to see the propeller missing, but it was on…

It felt strange that I could manually rotate the propeller in the water, I do not remember I could that before… but I could be wrong…

So, I thought may be something was disconnected or broken inside the foot of the bow thruster.
Retrieving it from the water, when I turn the propeller it turns the shaft (connected to the electric motor).

So what could be the cause of the electric motor turning and not the propeller?

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Chris,
A possible cause is the spring loaded pin that locates the pulley at the bottom of the foil to the gearbox. This can be lifted up to free the furler from the gearbox. It is possible for the spring to fail and the pin to lift on its own or for the locating hole to become worn and the pin to slip.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "chris2price@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 3:11 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

 
Hi All,
I think I have a gearbox problem.  When I furl the genoa the motor turns & the sail furls a bit then stops, while the motor continues, then it catches for a bit & then stops again. Etc, etc.
Does anyone have any sketches or diagrams for pulling it apart?  Can anything be done without taking down the forestay?
Many thanks,
Chris Price
Rhumb Runner SM #464
Currently in Las Palmas, Gran Canaria



Re: SM Genoa Furling diagrams?

chris2price@...
 

Sorry I've just done search of the forum and found a good number of pictures & information on the furling system.  My Ali drum is made of 2 parts bolted together but other than that it looks similar to that later diagrams.  Now I just need to get it apart!
Chris
SV Rhumb Runner #464


Re: Mizzen stay sail

greatketch@...
 

Paul,

Just to confirm your setup...

The sheet first comes aboard to a block clipped to the padeye on the toerail roughly 1 meter forward of the transom, then goes to a fairlead block clipped to the base of the stanchion that is just aft of them mizzen upper shrouds, then to the winch.

If we are on a passage of any length at all, we drop our outboard in the sternlocker, so that's not an issue for us, although I know some outboards are too big for this solution.  I can imagine a loose and flopping staysail sheet could snag the engine somehow.

We have never had trouble with the ladder on starboard tack.

As an aside, the traditional place to sheet a mizzen staysail on a ketch is the end of the mizzen boom.  It theoretically gives you a bit more flexibility in sail shape, especially getting it more open when going more downwind.  I tried in on my Amel, but didn't see enough benefit to make it worth the trouble.

Bill Kinney
SM#169 Harmonie
Salinas, PR






---In amelyachtowners@..., <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote :

Hello
When sailing with the mizzen staysail with wind in from starboard, we have no problem with the sheeting point.
But with the wind in from the port side, the sheet interferes both with the ladder outside the rail and with the outboard motor when stored on the rail. Does anyone have any good suggestion for how to arrange sheeting point on the starbiard side
Paul on SYKERPA SM # 295


Re: Negative ground slave solenoid

James Sterling
 

Many thanks to Kimberlite on this issue.  The missing diode on the stop solenoid lead is the most likely culprit.  The diodes, one on the stop solenoid lead, the other on the lead going to the starter solenoid are Motorola MR752's .  I feel sure that this will solve the problem.  If not, I'll re-post. 

S/V Longbow SM2K #418