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Re: Fixing/replacing copper on holding tank

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

My copper tubing at the base of the holding tank failed two years ago, both aft and forward heads within months of each other.  The copper tubing was so thin at that point that I could easily peel it out of the fiberglass sleeve with a pair of vice grips.  

I replaced the copper tubing in both cases with about 7 inches of 1.5 inch diameter PVC tubing.  I needed to use some wet/dry sand paper to remove a small volume of the PVC pipe so that it would snugly penetrate the fiberglass hole to the right depth (about 3 inches) and then I used silicone sealant to afix it.  The previous hose to the shut off valve fit on the PVC pipe without modification, using two hose clamps.  

This fix has worked well with no evidence of leakage.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently in Falmouth Harbour, Antigua


Washing machine replacement Amel 54, Super Maramu 2000 plus others

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The following will likely help you find a clothes washer replacement for either an Amel 54 or a Super Maramu 2000, and possibly other Amels since Amel has typically used house hold washers:

Here are links to some photos in the photo section of the Amel Owners Group. These photos are from an ad by www.unieuro.it

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/911367118/lightbox/876040189?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/876040189


The clothes washer in a SM2000 is a standard EU size which is 85X40X60cm (HxWxD). I have not seen a size for the front loading washer on the 54.

When we were in Barcelona Spain there were about 6 or 7 choices of brands/models that would fit perfectly. We bought a Bosch Series 4. The model number plate is attached to this email.

Here is a link to Unieuro's current washer offerings: 

I am sure that you can find a freight forwarder that can work with Unieuro, and you may be able to find the right size for an Amel 54...I wish I knew the size.

BTW, our clothes washer was working fine when we replaced it at 13 years old. We replaced it for two reasons: it was old and we were in a part of the world where replacement was easy. Consider this if you are in the EU and about to depart.

If someone is successful in arranging purchase and shipment using a freight forwarder from EU to North America or the Caribbean, please share the details with everyone here. Details like contact names, phone, costs, etc.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Planetary gear in main furling/outhaul gearbox

steve_morrison@...
 

Thank you Bill.  It would seem, at this stage of disassembly, the simplest thing is to replace them now if that is an option.  I really appreciate your voice here on the group and I thank you for taking the time to respond to direct emails.  I promise to not make a habit of it and overstep your generosity.

All the best to you,
Steve


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pickling winterizing watermaker

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Although, I have never been in climates requiring winterizing and have no experience with it, I believe that DOW Filmtec, the only manufacturer of membranes in the world, recommends DOWFROST to winterize. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Planetary gear in main furling/outhaul gearbox

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Steve,

Amel did stock the bronze gear for your model. SAV"at"amel.fr I assume they still do. I cannot tell you how much is too much.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Washing machine replacement on AMEL54

Andy Buxford
 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@yahoo.com wrote:

can you tell me which exact Electrolux model you bought?
The dimension of my current machine is 85,7 cm (height), 59,5 cm (width) ca.
50cm (depth).
European washing machines seem to be of standard dimensions, more or less.

The first Hotpoint machine I find at www.currys.co.uk (one of the UK's
major retailers) is described as 850 x 595 x 577 mm (H x W x D). I.E.
85cm x 59.5cm x 57.7cm.

Every machine on that site has the dimensions listed under the
"specifications" tab of its page - it looks like they all vary only by
a few cm of depth.

Andy.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pickling winterizing watermaker

Patrick McAneny
 

Paul, I winterizes my boat with glycol last year , no problem that I am aware of . However  it was an extremely mild winter,60 even 70s many days in Jan. and Feb..
If you get up to the northern part of the Bay , we live on the Sassafras River , four miles in from the Bay you see our SM on it's mooring . Drop a hook ,stay awhile. 
Pat& Diane
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, May 26, 2017 5:13 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pickling winterizing watermaker

 
Hello
We need to pickle our watermaker as we now in Cheasapeak Bay and the water is very murky. We will leave the boat in a spot where it could freeze. I was told that propylene glycol will do the job. Anyone who have any experince to pickle with propylene glycol?
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM #259


Re: Washing machine replacement on AMEL54

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

We bought our replacement washing machine for our SM353   from unieuro.it -- perhaps they have locations in other European countries.  Since we bought a closeout (not a floor model) from a location that was re-branding from "Euronics" to Unieuro, it may be an older model.  The closest current model would be Electrolux RWT1264ELW.  If you want to search an Italian website for a washing machine, search for "lavatrice" (washing machine) and "caricamento dall' alto" (loading from the top).  The load is usually 6 or 7 kgs, and the energy efficiency runs from A to A+++.

Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help

Stephanie DiBelardino
Currently in Nettuo, Rome, Italy

Stephanie Martino DiBelardino


Planetary gear in main furling/outhaul gearbox

steve_morrison@...
 

For those of you who have taken your gearboxes apart, how much wear is too much wear on the bronze teeth, and if necessary, has anyone managed to find a replacement?




I added a photo of the more worn of my two, though I am not sure if it will show up in the thread or not.


All the best,

Steve Morrison

sm380 TouRai

Brunswick, GA


Pickling winterizing watermaker

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello

We need to pickle our watermaker as we now in Cheasapeak Bay and the water is very murky. We will leave the boat in a spot where it could freeze. I was told that propylene glycol will do the job. Anyone who have any experince to pickle with propylene glycol?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM #259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Washing machine replacement on AMEL54

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi Barry,
the problems are, it stops running in the middle of the program, it has a lot of rust (the bottom looks totally rusty) and I was hoping to find a model that is more energy efficient.
Not sure if replacing the pump will solve my first problem, but I'm not an expert. It's 12 years old, and I'm seriously thinking about replaceing it..
Best Regards,
Alex



On Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:34 AM, "Barry Connor connor_barry@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Alex,
What's the problem with your washer? Mine wasn't working when I bought 2 years ago, it was the pump - replaced by myself, cost £30. Did it from the front, didn't have to take out the washer. Would have been A lot of work if I had to get it out.
Bosch in Marseille wanted over €300 to fix it.
Regards

Barry & Penny
"Lady Penelope II"
AMEL 54.  # 17


On May 25, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Dear Amelians,
The washing machine on my AMEL54 needs to be replaced. The Bosch model used on my boat, doesn't exist anymore and I couldn't find a new machine with the exact same dimensions. Are there brands / models out there that you recommend?
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer
SY NOSTRESS
currently @ Martinique



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Washing machine replacement on AMEL54

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi Stephanie,
can you tell me which exact Electrolux model you bought?
The dimension of my current machine is 85,7 cm (height), 59,5 cm (width) ca. 50cm (depth).
Good to hear from you again!
Cheers, Alex



On Friday, May 26, 2017 3:30 AM, "Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
I do not know the dimensions of the washing machine used on the 54, but we just bought a  washing machine for our 53 --NOT a washer dryer, just a washing machine, but one with high revolutions. I prefer something simple, rather than complex!

 In Italy, where we live part of the year, we had no trouble finding a compact washer in prices ranging from Euro 450 to 1400.  We bought an Electrolux since we have a washing machine and dishwasher made by them in our home, and are very satisfied with the performance of both appliances -- AND we know that parts are readily available throughout Italy.  The downside was the cost of shipping from Italy to Florida.  I tried finding, on-line,  similar machines in the UK and France, thinking that freight would be less expensive.  But I was surprised that I could not find a washer that fit our 53 in either of those areas.   

Stephanie Martino DiBelardino



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fixing/replacing copper on holding tank

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Steve,

Please document with photos. 

If any problems uploading, send them to me Andi will do it for you. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On May 26, 2017 12:40, "steve_morrison@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill Mark, and Eric.


I am back down at the boat again and am looking things over with the idea to follow Mark's detailed plan.  The tank is dry and "clean" and the toilet and hose removed.  I have ordered the fiberglass tube from McMaster and should have it soon.  

All the best,
Steve Morrison
sm380 TouRai
Brunswick, GA


Re: Fixing/replacing copper on holding tank

steve_morrison@...
 

Thank you Bill Mark, and Eric.

I am back down at the boat again and am looking things over with the idea to follow Mark's detailed plan.  The tank is dry and "clean" and the toilet and hose removed.  I have ordered the fiberglass tube from McMaster and should have it soon.  

All the best,
Steve Morrison
sm380 TouRai
Brunswick, GA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Procedure to unfurl and fuel the mizzen on a SM

greatketch@...
 

You can see my implementation of the solution here:


Bill Kinney
SM160 Harmonie
Nanny Cay, Tortola, BVI


---In amelyachtowners@..., <carhartt@...> wrote :

Hi Bill,

That is great advice. Can you post a few images please of the setup you have for the traveller. I am guilty of leaving the traveller amidships.

Going to the stern always did seem time consuming during a change in direction.


Thanks

Peter
Gradiva Mango #70
Soon to be heading to Queensland……
-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...



 


Re: Washing machine replacement on AMEL54

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

I do not know the dimensions of the washing machine used on the 54, but we just bought a  washing machine for our 53 --NOT a washer dryer, just a washing machine, but one with high revolutions. I prefer something simple, rather than complex!

 In Italy, where we live part of the year, we had no trouble finding a compact washer in prices ranging from Euro 450 to 1400.  We bought an Electrolux since we have a washing machine and dishwasher made by them in our home, and are very satisfied with the performance of both appliances -- AND we know that parts are readily available throughout Italy.  The downside was the cost of shipping from Italy to Florida.  I tried finding, on-line,  similar machines in the UK and France, thinking that freight would be less expensive.  But I was surprised that I could not find a washer that fit our 53 in either of those areas.   

Stephanie Martino DiBelardino


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Procedure to unfurl and fuel the mizzen on a SM

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Peter,

I just uploaded to the Files section..Artimon Remote ... This file was in the files section some years ago, but disappeared...
It shows a line tender and blocks mounted on the mizzen sheet track to control the traveler position from the cockpit.
It is my intention to do the same.
Trust this helps you
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Procedure to unfurl and fuel the mizzen on a SM

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi Bill,

That is great advice. Can you post a few images please of the setup you have for the traveller. I am guilty of leaving the traveller amidships.

Going to the stern always did seem time consuming during a change in direction.


Thanks

Peter
Gradiva Mango #70
Soon to be heading to Queensland……
-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 26 May 2017 01:14:34 +0000
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Procedure to unfurl and fuel the mizzen on a SM

 

To call it a "vang" is giving it a name probably more than it deserves. It is just a line from the mast to a shackle on the bottom of the boom about 1/3 of the way back.  The same shackle the preventer connects to.


The biggest and best change I have made to my boat was to add control lines and a line tender so I can control the mizzen traveler from the cockpit. So now my gybe procedure is like this....

Sheet in mizzen so the boom is more or less over the traveler car.
Move traveler to windward side.
Turn boat.
Ease the sheet.

All done from the cockpit.

Not only does it make gybing a piece of cake, I can easily and safely balance and fine tune the boat because I do not have to go out on the aft deck to move the traveler around.  For those of us who learned to sail on small boat, traveler adjustments are something you do all the time.  Having a traveler I had to physically muscle around out on the aft deck seemed to really be counter to everything that the Amel rig was about.

I have seen several Amel sailors who don't do anything with their travelers, just leave them amidships and do all sail trim with the sheets.  They are missing a big chunk of the boat's performance potential.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Nanny Cay, Tortola, BVI


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi  Bill,

The mizzen unfurlling exercise looks like a mad knife thrower, hurling knives at an imaginary target !

You have a vang on your mizzen  boom ? Do you have a pic of it ?

I ha ve thought about putting one on, not because of furling issues, but to keep the boom down when gybing so it doesn't ride up the mizzen backstays. Only issue is that I store my dink upside down on the aft cabin roof when passage making.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Procedure to unfurl and fuel the mizzen on a SM

greatketch@...
 

To call it a "vang" is giving it a name probably more than it deserves. It is just a line from the mast to a shackle on the bottom of the boom about 1/3 of the way back.  The same shackle the preventer connects to.

The biggest and best change I have made to my boat was to add control lines and a line tender so I can control the mizzen traveler from the cockpit. So now my gybe procedure is like this....

Sheet in mizzen so the boom is more or less over the traveler car.
Move traveler to windward side.
Turn boat.
Ease the sheet.

All done from the cockpit.

Not only does it make gybing a piece of cake, I can easily and safely balance and fine tune the boat because I do not have to go out on the aft deck to move the traveler around.  For those of us who learned to sail on small boat, traveler adjustments are something you do all the time.  Having a traveler I had to physically muscle around out on the aft deck seemed to really be counter to everything that the Amel rig was about.

I have seen several Amel sailors who don't do anything with their travelers, just leave them amidships and do all sail trim with the sheets.  They are missing a big chunk of the boat's performance potential.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Nanny Cay, Tortola, BVI


---In amelyachtowners@..., <divanz620@...> wrote :

Hi  Bill,

The mizzen unfurlling exercise looks like a mad knife thrower, hurling knives at an imaginary target !

You have a vang on your mizzen  boom ? Do you have a pic of it ?

I have thought about putting one on, not because of furling issues, but to keep the boom down when gybing so it doesn't ride up the mizzen backstays. Only issue is that I store my dink upside down on the aft cabin roof when passage making.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437