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[Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of removing the fridge and access/clean the condenser and fan

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon,

I just illustrated the “fridge removal”.

I could feel more heat coming from the fridge’s compressor and after I defrost the it yesterday, the fan made a funny noise…
So in order to see the problem I had to remove the fridge.
Thankfully it was simply dust that accumulated on the fan and the condenser.

It is definitely more difficult to access than the freezer’s condenser… almost took a day (8 hours) to (discover how to) remove, clean then put back.
This illustration will definitely save the discovery time.

This was easy, I was able to do it by myself, but a second pair of hand would definitely have help.
http://nikimat.com/fridge_removal.html

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, Netherlands Antilles


R: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Santorin fresh water piping

antonio scipioni
 

Hi stephanie IF you send me a mail I'll scan and send you the original compartimentation.
Br 
Antonio 
Santorin 108 Vagabundo

Il giovedì, maggio 18, 2017, 22:01, herbert@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:

 

hi stephanie,  the "liquid flow diagram" is in the files section, it is named "scan689.tif".  I think there is a Santorin-drawings folder that contains it.

fresh water flow is very simple on the santorin, what do you need to know?

herbert
SN 120 KALI MERA, Isla de Providencia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Peter,
Can you describe the “unusual” noise? Does it sound like higher pitch?
The last time mine failed it was actually the gear that were slightly worn out, putting a new set of gear (come on a package from Amel with the tuffnol shaft)
In your case could be the bearings.
You do not need to have Amel doing the work.
Here is the entire process to overhaul the bow thruster:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html
Taking your time, especially the first time, it will take you 3 half days (you have to do it in half days as the oil has to drain, the antifouling has to dry, etc.
As you get to the gear section, pay close attention to them, I can send picture of mine slightly being worn.
Here is also a link to the spare parts:
http://nikimat.com/spare_parts_bow_thruster.html


Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA




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On Thu, 5/18/17, peterbernhard@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:49 AM


 









I have a year 2000 SM, hull #312. Our
bow thruster is making an unusual noise. We replaced seals
and oil but this did not fix the problem. We suspect it is
coming from the sealed part of the unit which encompasses
the propeller. Anyone know a fix for this or is it back to
Amel for a full replacement part (and if so, what part?).
Thanks


Re: Seeking an Amel Super Maramu

rettirc@...
 

Does anyone know of Amel Super Maramu's for sale privately? We are in contact with a few brokers and ready to make some offers pending viewing.  We were hoping to see an Amel before seeking to buy one, however from what research we have done it seems to be the most ideal boat for us and our 2 young boys aged 3 and 4.


We are looking to hopefully get a boat in Europe/America and plan a 2 year trip to eventually sail back to Australia.


Any leads to boats available shall be greatly appreciated and advice of what to look for would be amazing. 


Although l was a Yacht engineer in my previous life, and have done a lot of sailing and racing, I do not know Amels......Yet!!!  Advice needed.


with regards


Chris S

+61 (0)424 521 357


ps Bob Grey, if there is an opportunity to get in touch with owner in Yanchep just to see an Amel, that shall be appreciated.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Duo 60 Watermaker

hanspeter baettig
 

Dear Danny
good input
Hanspeter

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 18.05.2017 um 20:31 schrieb Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi Hanspeter,
My thoughts on the forum. Ive been a member since 2008 when we bought Ocean Pearl. I have found it invaluable. As a hew owner I had so much I didn't know and the old hands generously shared their experiences. Over time I have been able to contribute as well. With the complexities of the Amel having access to the wide experience on the forum is amazing. A few years ago someone complained it was only SM focused. Obvious answer was for other owners to get involved. Recently there has been quite an upsurge in activity from SM and from all the earlier models and the newer as well. Speaks for itself, the forum is invaluable. The three wise heads of Bill Joel and Olivier step in when needed and the rest of us have much to offer as well. Good stuff. Keep it up team.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 19 May 2017 at 04:11 "'hanspeter.baettig@...' hanspeter.baettig@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Amel owners,
as I had a closer look on Bill' excellent pics'
my one cent word. As we communicate since long time on this forum and our boats are in the vintage age; because only on of the new 55 ft owners recall sometimes ago, I understand.But the problem is, all our nice boats, SM, SN,Maramu,Mago, Sharki etc. have its own live with in the meantime lot's of changment. So its hard to give a right and professionel advice, I can only help you If I see the problem myself. Best thing on my belief. Learn to understand the quit compelx tecnique yourself. This forum is only a littel help , but very nice as a social forum. Any feedback, critisme, new inputs are welcome for this forum; because a forum shoud have  an actual matter.
Only now my two cents words.
bon voyage à tous
Hanspeter
Tamango 2
SM 16
Licata, Sicily,

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 17.05.2017 um 00:07 schrieb 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Duane,

I am 99.9% sure I have the hose identified for you in the attached photo. I am not 100% sure because I am not aboard a SM at this time.



Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 3:40 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


Just got back to civilization (with internet)!  I'll look forward to the photo if it's not too much trouble.

Duane



 

 


Re: Santorin fresh water piping

Herbert Lackner
 

hi stephanie,  the "liquid flow diagram" is in the files section, it is named "scan689.tif".  I think there is a Santorin-drawings folder that contains it.

fresh water flow is very simple on the santorin, what do you need to know?

herbert
SN 120 KALI MERA, Isla de Providencia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The old mystery bolt

Porter McRoberts
 

Thank you JOEL I will definitely have a look in those spots!

Please excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On May 18, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Joel Potter jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

It seems to perhaps be the same size as the two machine bolts that hold down the cover over the hawse hole on a Lewmar vertical capstan windlass. Close also to the bolts on the manual mainsail furler winch handle receiver but I don't think the bolts on the main furler could fail in this fashion. The windlass bolts could...

Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

On May 18, 2017, at 1:11 PM, portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hugely appreciated.  To all.  Agree with the submarine analogy.  So ascenders out and on tomorrow after work.  Up I go.  Kinda looking forward to the trip.  Good photo op.  


Bill I was not able to see the photo you sent from the Banmar furling motor- if convenient to re-send i'd appreciate it.  Ill look there too as you know I been in there. 

Thanks Again.

Ill keep you posted on the results of my survey!

Porter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Duo 60 Watermaker

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Hanspeter,
My thoughts on the forum. Ive been a member since 2008 when we bought Ocean Pearl. I have found it invaluable. As a hew owner I had so much I didn't know and the old hands generously shared their experiences. Over time I have been able to contribute as well. With the complexities of the Amel having access to the wide experience on the forum is amazing. A few years ago someone complained it was only SM focused. Obvious answer was for other owners to get involved. Recently there has been quite an upsurge in activity from SM and from all the earlier models and the newer as well. Speaks for itself, the forum is invaluable. The three wise heads of Bill Joel and Olivier step in when needed and the rest of us have much to offer as well. Good stuff. Keep it up team.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 19 May 2017 at 04:11 "'hanspeter.baettig@...' hanspeter.baettig@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Amel owners,
as I had a closer look on Bill' excellent pics'
my one cent word. As we communicate since long time on this forum and our boats are in the vintage age; because only on of the new 55 ft owners recall sometimes ago, I understand.But the problem is, all our nice boats, SM, SN,Maramu,Mago, Sharki etc. have its own live with in the meantime lot's of changment. So its hard to give a right and professionel advice, I can only help you If I see the problem myself. Best thing on my belief. Learn to understand the quit compelx tecnique yourself. This forum is only a littel help , but very nice as a social forum. Any feedback, critisme, new inputs are welcome for this forum; because a forum shoud have  an actual matter.
Only now my two cents words.
bon voyage à tous
Hanspeter
Tamango 2
SM 16
Licata, Sicily,

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 17.05.2017 um 00:07 schrieb 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Duane,

I am 99.9% sure I have the hose identified for you in the attached photo. I am not 100% sure because I am not aboard a SM at this time.

<Product Water Hose From Dessalator.jpg>

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 3:40 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


Just got back to civilization (with internet)!  I'll look forward to the photo if it's not too much trouble.

Duane



 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The old mystery bolt

amelforme
 

It seems to perhaps be the same size as the two machine bolts that hold down the cover over the hawse hole on a Lewmar vertical capstan windlass. Close also to the bolts on the manual mainsail furler winch handle receiver but I don't think the bolts on the main furler could fail in this fashion. The windlass bolts could...

Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

On May 18, 2017, at 1:11 PM, portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hugely appreciated.  To all.  Agree with the submarine analogy.  So ascenders out and on tomorrow after work.  Up I go.  Kinda looking forward to the trip.  Good photo op.  


Bill I was not able to see the photo you sent from the Banmar furling motor- if convenient to re-send i'd appreciate it.  Ill look there too as you know I been in there. 

Thanks Again.

Ill keep you posted on the results of my survey!

Porter


Re: The old mystery bolt

Porter McRoberts
 

Hugely appreciated.  To all.  Agree with the submarine analogy.  So ascenders out and on tomorrow after work.  Up I go.  Kinda looking forward to the trip.  Good photo op.  

Bill I was not able to see the photo you sent from the Banmar furling motor- if convenient to re-send i'd appreciate it.  Ill look there too as you know I been in there. 

Thanks Again.

Ill keep you posted on the results of my survey!

Porter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Duo 60 Watermaker [1 Attachment]

hanspeter baettig
 

Hello Amel owners,
as I had a closer look on Bill' excellent pics'
my one cent word. As we communicate since long time on this forum and our boats are in the vintage age; because only on of the new 55 ft owners recall sometimes ago, I understand.But the problem is, all our nice boats, SM, SN,Maramu,Mago, Sharki etc. have its own live with in the meantime lot's of changment. So its hard to give a right and professionel advice, I can only help you If I see the problem myself. Best thing on my belief. Learn to understand the quit compelx tecnique yourself. This forum is only a littel help , but very nice as a social forum. Any feedback, critisme, new inputs are welcome for this forum; because a forum shoud have  an actual matter.
Only now my two cents words.
bon voyage à tous
Hanspeter
Tamango 2
SM 16
Licata, Sicily,

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 17.05.2017 um 00:07 schrieb 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Duane,

I am 99.9% sure I have the hose identified for you in the attached photo. I am not 100% sure because I am not aboard a SM at this time.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 3:40 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


Just got back to civilization (with internet)!  I'll look forward to the photo if it's not too much trouble.

Duane



Bow thruster

peterbernhard@...
 

I have a year 2000 SM, hull #312. Our bow thruster is making an unusual noise. We replaced seals and oil but this did not fix the problem. We suspect it is coming from the sealed part of the unit which encompasses the propeller. Anyone know a fix for this or is it back to Amel for a full replacement part (and if so, what part?). Thanks


Re: Duo 60 Watermaker

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks Bill!  I just got back to a wifi spot in the Berry Islands, Bahamas.  That's very accessible and a good spot for a sampling tap/3-way valve.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The old mystery bolt

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Porter,

I've seen bolts like this at the top of a main mast, holding a camera's bracket (Martin from CHIARA will agree...).
Look at the pictures. If you don't get them, I will send them to your address with my gmail address.

You may find also these bolts holding satellite antennas (phone or TV) on the main mast spreaders (if you have some).

This definitely doesn't belong to the swivel (your swivel is not a Bamar but the famous AMEL swivel). And the Bamar furler's covers'screws look a bit different.

Keep on searching until you find and definitely have a trip up the mast.

Olivier


On Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Porter,

I am guessing that Allen Head Shoulder Bolt is about 6mm with a 20mm shoulder. 

My only guess is that came off one of the Bamar Furlers, probably the motor housing unit or possibly at the top near the swivel or on the blocking ring...see photo. 

Maybe you should check the Bamar Furler Manuals to see if this is possible.

​A less likely guess would be that it came from the top of the mast. Normally antenna mounts and Mast Head Units are mounted with shoulder bolts to the mast top. The mast top is tapped (threaded) for these bolts and they are usually either 5 or 6mm. 

The least likely place is on or near the downwind pole...I don't think so, but my knowledge of the downwind pole on a 54 is limited.

It's not Easter, but you have an Easter Egg Hunt ahead of you...good luck and let us know if you find it...my money is on the Bamar Furlers.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:09 AM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
 
No sir. No Simpson lawrence davit

Porter


On May 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... om> wrote:

 
Do u have a simpson lawrence davit? 


Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc

On May 17, 2017, at 3:54 PM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... om> wrote:

 
Gentlemen,

This piece of hardware arrived on my port deck nestled into a deck crack with the Gaz lazzarette upon returning from a afternoon sail.

Presumably it's from somewhere above – the rigging. Does anyone have any idea or can anyone identify this bolt or suggest where I might look?

It appears that the distal end has been sheared off.

Very much appreciated as always

Porter McRoberts

S/V Ibis Amel 54-152
Currently in Fort Lauderdale








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Santorin fresh water piping

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Does anyone have a layout  of the freshwater piping system for a 1993 Santorin?
Many thanks,
Stephanie DiBelardino
S/V Bianca
Palm Beach Gardens, FL

Stephanie Martino DiBelardino


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bruntons autoprop 'zinc'

Mohammad Shirloo
 

I did order the complete maintenance kit direct from Brunton's in England just recently. I requested that the zinc be changed for the plastic cap and they were accommodating.
 
My initial reasoning was that Amel must have had a reason. Bill's explanation makes sense.
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bruntons autoprop 'zinc'

Sv Garulfo
 

Bill,

Thanks for your input, it makes sense.


Best,
Thomas
Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France

On Thu, 18 May 2017 at 14:49, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thomas,

That is good news that Bruntons will swap the zinc for the Red Cap in the bearing kit!

Let me tell you what I know and also what I believe about this issue. 
  1. I know that if more than one zinc is connected to the bonding system, the zinc closest to where all of the bonding wires are bundled will deteriorate first. This is the reason that one zinc on the rudder usually goes before the other. When you place a zinc on the propellor, it will go first because it is the closest to the bonding system bundle and the closest to the major components of the bonding system.
  2. When that propellor zinc deteriorates, it does not uniformly deteriorate. This means it will cause a slight imbalance in the propellor shaft...probably, not noticeable.
  3. When the propellor zinc deteriorates it will be the three mounts (where the plastic bolts secure it to the prop) that will go before the larger part of the zinc...in the end, causing it to remain attached with 1 or 2 of the bolts before slung-off by the rotation of the prop.
The primary reason I prefer to use the Red Cap is because Amel says to do it. The other reasons become obvious after reading 1-3 above.

I hope this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The old mystery bolt

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Porter,

I am guessing that Allen Head Shoulder Bolt is about 6mm with a 20mm shoulder. 

My only guess is that came off one of the Bamar Furlers, probably the motor housing unit or possibly at the top near the swivel or on the blocking ring...see photo. 

Maybe you should check the Bamar Furler Manuals to see if this is possible.

​A less likely guess would be that it came from the top of the mast. Normally antenna mounts and Mast Head Units are mounted with shoulder bolts to the mast top. The mast top is tapped (threaded) for these bolts and they are usually either 5 or 6mm. 

The least likely place is on or near the downwind pole...I don't think so, but my knowledge of the downwind pole on a 54 is limited.

It's not Easter, but you have an Easter Egg Hunt ahead of you...good luck and let us know if you find it...my money is on the Bamar Furlers.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:09 AM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

No sir. No Simpson lawrence davit

Porter


On May 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Do u have a simpson lawrence davit? 


Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc

On May 17, 2017, at 3:54 PM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Gentlemen,

This piece of hardware arrived on my port deck nestled into a deck crack with the Gaz lazzarette upon returning from a afternoon sail.

Presumably it's from somewhere above – the rigging. Does anyone have any idea or can anyone identify this bolt or suggest where I might look?

It appears that the distal end has been sheared off.

Very much appreciated as always

Porter McRoberts

S/V Ibis Amel 54-152
Currently in Fort Lauderdale








Please excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The old mystery bolt

Dean Gillies
 

Porter,
An ex-submariner friend once explained to me that life, on a submarine, is very simple. There are only either good things or bad things.

That sheared bolt, if it came from aloft, is most definitely a bad thing.  Keep looking.

Maybe it's time to get the bosuns chair out and get intimate with your masts and spars ?

Sorry can't be more helpful. 

Are you enjoying the boat?

Cheers
Dean


On 18 May 2017, at 2:09 pm, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

No sir. No Simpson lawrence davit

Porter


On May 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do u have a simpson lawrence davit? 


Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On May 17, 2017, at 3:54 PM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Gentlemen,

This piece of hardware arrived on my port deck nestled into a deck crack with the Gaz lazzarette upon returning from a afternoon sail.

Presumably it's from somewhere above – the rigging. Does anyone have any idea or can anyone identify this bolt or suggest where I might look?

It appears that the distal end has been sheared off.

Very much appreciated as always

Porter McRoberts

S/V Ibis Amel 54-152
Currently in Fort Lauderdale








Please excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bruntons autoprop 'zinc'

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thomas,

That is good news that Bruntons will swap the zinc for the Red Cap in the bearing kit!

Let me tell you what I know and also what I believe about this issue. 
  1. I know that if more than one zinc is connected to the bonding system, the zinc closest to where all of the bonding wires are bundled will deteriorate first. This is the reason that one zinc on the rudder usually goes before the other. When you place a zinc on the propellor, it will go first because it is the closest to the bonding system bundle and the closest to the major components of the bonding system.
  2. When that propellor zinc deteriorates, it does not uniformly deteriorate. This means it will cause a slight imbalance in the propellor shaft...probably, not noticeable.
  3. When the propellor zinc deteriorates it will be the three mounts (where the plastic bolts secure it to the prop) that will go before the larger part of the zinc...in the end, causing it to remain attached with 1 or 2 of the bolts before slung-off by the rotation of the prop.
The primary reason I prefer to use the Red Cap is because Amel says to do it. The other reasons become obvious after reading 1-3 above.

I hope this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970