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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean surveyors

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Hi Alan,
I used a local BVI surveyor - West Indies Surveyor.     DO NOT USE HIM or any local man.  Best to fly in some one from another location. 

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Apr 4, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Alan Grayson bazgrayson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All, I'm flying down to the BVI next week to look at a super Maramu and hopefully the next step will be a pre purchase survey. I remember some posts about surveyors when I first hooked up to the site about 6 months ago but I can't seem to find them again. Does anyone know of good Amel qualified surveyors in the Caribbean or one who will go to the Caribbean. I'm not sure where the survey will be done but the owner seems keen to deliver it.
Regards
Alan Grayson
Hopefully a future Amel owner


Caribbean surveyors

Alan Grayson
 

Hi All, I'm flying down to the BVI next week to look at a super Maramu and hopefully the next step will be a pre purchase survey. I remember some posts about surveyors when I first hooked up to the site about 6 months ago but I can't seem to find them again. Does anyone know of good Amel qualified surveyors in the Caribbean or one who will go to the Caribbean. I'm not sure where the survey will be done but the owner seems keen to deliver it.
Regards
Alan Grayson
Hopefully a future Amel owner


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sea water chest [1 Attachment]

greatketch@...
 

On my old boat I had an elbow in a head tank discharge line that would very occasionally get clogged.  The magic trick for it was a plumber's snake.  Cheap and easy from your local home center.  

Sound like just the trick for your problem too!

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Ponce, PR



---In amelyachtowners@..., <riffhynes@...> wrote :

Bill, thank you very much for all your help but the early Amels were early in the evolutionary path. Hull #29 has a 90 degree elbow on the bottom of the sea chest that attaches to a 75mm hose that is "U" shaped and is about 90cm in length. This hose terminates at a ball valve that is mounted on a fiberglass elbow that exits the hull. No way to force any brush down this tortuous path. We first removed all the hoses from the sea chest with the exception of the engine supply as this was only a few cm's from the bulkhead and had no play in it. The sea chest was then unbolted from the bulkhead and moved forward to pull out of the engine supply hose. The sea chest could then be raised and removed from the large supply hose. The large hose was then removed from the sea cock. This hose was completely blocked by spaghetti-like marine growth. These were easily removed and the sea chest cleaned. The only area still to be cleaned is the fiberglasses elbow on the hull. As I said earlier, a diver cleaned about 20cm into the opening but didn't clean out the elbow. We will dive on it today and remove this growth. 

Thanks again for your time and expertise. Unfortunately, we were so involved we didn't take any photos.  We used a GoPro before starting tat really was helpful in planning the operation. 

Ron Hynes
954.319.0944



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reeling damage on AMEL54

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: Reeling damage on AMEL54

Ian Park
 

Alex
If you're going to Martinique ask Amel in Marin. They will know or find your answer.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN 96


Re: Low water pressure after tank cleaning

Duane Siegfri
 

Eric, 

Thanks for your reply, I was thinking of the same sort of blockage since it was affecting all the taps.

It turned out to be just the filter screen on the taps blocked with debris from the tank.  I'm relieved that's all it was and surprised I didn't think of that before I sent the question to the group!

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Problematic Mainsail Furling in mid 80s Maramu/Sharki models

Warren Traill
 

Hi John. We have a 1980 Sharki. Hull #15. The main sail is raised using the original stainless steel halyard and winch on the main mast. It has no furling system and uses the slide method as described by James.

It is as per original.

Regards,

Warren

Manon2

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 6:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Problematic Mainsail Furling in mid 80s Maramu/Sharki models

 

 

John,

 

   Having sailed mostly on boats without furling of any kind due in part to my perceived  unreliability of many of the non Amel furling systems I was actually looking originally for a pre 1985 Maramu with the original rig with slides.  There isn’t much to go wrong.  Not as much to maintain and you can end up with better sail shape due to battens and a positive roach.   I ended up with a latter 1987 Maramu with the in mast furling however and it did not take me long to realize the advantages of the Amel furling system.  The Amel furling system on Sueno seems to be very robust and adjusting the sail area from the cockpit when the spray is flying without anyone having to go one deck is a really nice feature.  Perhaps others can confirm this but I do not believe that Amel built a furling system for the main and mizzen that sits outside of the spar for the Maramu as you describe so I suspect what you have described is an after market product.  The transition was from the traditional track and slides to the in mast furling from what I have learned thus far.  Personally, if I had bought an older Maramu, I would have stayed with the original Amel track and slides which I am sure work fine.  

 

   Best of luck with your search.

 

James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

 

On Apr 3, 2017, at 1:35 PM, jdbedforduk@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Dear Amel Collective,

 

Firstly I have been lurking ion the background soaking up as much information as I can from the group as it is my intention to buy a Sharki or Maramu within the next couple of months.

 

Some of the boats I am looking at have the older mainsail furling set behind the mast whereas others have the in mast furling as seen often on more modern boats. In my quest for knowledge I seem to recall a comment by another group member that the earlier mainsail furling was troublesome compared with the in-mast version, and I guess Amel changed it for good reason. I now can't track down this comment and hence this post!

 

Whilst I would probably prefer the Sharki, would it be better to get an in-mast furled Maramu instead of an older furling system Sharki or are both systems actually perfectly sound?

 

I very much look forward to your expertise and comments.

 

John

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Problematic Mainsail Furling in mid 80s Maramu/Sharki models

Warren Traill
 

Hi John. We have a 1980 Sharki. Hull #15. The main sail is raised using the original stainless steel halyard and winch on the main mast. It has no furling system and uses the slide method as described by James.

It is as per original.

Regards,

Warren

Manon2

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 6:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Problematic Mainsail Furling in mid 80s Maramu/Sharki models

 

 

John,

 

   Having sailed mostly on boats without furling of any kind due in part to my perceived  unreliability of many of the non Amel furling systems I was actually looking originally for a pre 1985 Maramu with the original rig with slides.  There isn’t much to go wrong.  Not as much to maintain and you can end up with better sail shape due to battens and a positive roach.   I ended up with a latter 1987 Maramu with the in mast furling however and it did not take me long to realize the advantages of the Amel furling system.  The Amel furling system on Sueno seems to be very robust and adjusting the sail area from the cockpit when the spray is flying without anyone having to go one deck is a really nice feature.  Perhaps others can confirm this but I do not believe that Amel built a furling system for the main and mizzen that sits outside of the spar for the Maramu as you describe so I suspect what you have described is an after market product.  The transition was from the traditional track and slides to the in mast furling from what I have learned thus far.  Personally, if I had bought an older Maramu, I would have stayed with the original Amel track and slides which I am sure work fine.  

 

   Best of luck with your search.

 

James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

 

On Apr 3, 2017, at 1:35 PM, jdbedforduk@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Dear Amel Collective,

 

Firstly I have been lurking ion the background soaking up as much information as I can from the group as it is my intention to buy a Sharki or Maramu within the next couple of months.

 

Some of the boats I am looking at have the older mainsail furling set behind the mast whereas others have the in mast furling as seen often on more modern boats. In my quest for knowledge I seem to recall a comment by another group member that the earlier mainsail furling was troublesome compared with the in-mast version, and I guess Amel changed it for good reason. I now can't track down this comment and hence this post!

 

Whilst I would probably prefer the Sharki, would it be better to get an in-mast furled Maramu instead of an older furling system Sharki or are both systems actually perfectly sound?

 

I very much look forward to your expertise and comments.

 

John

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low water pressure after tank cleaning

eric freedman
 

Duane, another thought. I don’t know what pump you have possibly it needs to be primed, or you might have something jammed in the impeller of the pump. However first I would try the air horn.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low water pressure after tank cleaning

 

 

So...we had to pull out the refer (frigoboat) to determine why it wasn't getting cold enough (it was at 45 degrees F at the coldest setting).  The foam used for a filter was completely falling apart and plugged.  The heat transfer coil was plugged with dirt.  So we cleaned it up and replaced the filters.

 

While we were at it we decided to clean the water storage tank.  Job done.  

 

However, when we were done and turned the taps on, the flow was substantially diminished.  I assume the pick-up tube picked up some dirt from the tank when we were pumping it down.  We had pumped the tank down to about 300L and then scrubbed with a brush.  Then we pumped it down to just a few inches in the tank, and vacumned the tank with a wet dry vac until it was dry.  We refilled the tank and started using the water when there was a 3 or 4 inches of water in the tank.

 

Right away the flow was reduced by at least half.  I'm assuming due to a chunk the pick-up tube picked up and is blocking flow.  

 

My question: where to look for the plug first?

 

Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM #477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low water pressure after tank cleaning

eric freedman
 

Duane,

One time I had something clogging the fuel line from the main tank to the racor filter . It turned out to be  a chunk of silicone caught in the filter inside the fuel tank. I took an  air horn and put it on the end of the hose and pressed the button on the horn. I heard air gurgling in the tank . I was able to get to a harbor and drain the tank and remove the inside filter and the silicone.

I would go to the water pump, disconnect the pickup hose and put and air horn on the hose and press the button. I would hope that would clear the pickup tube and you would be able to vacuum up the debris in the water tank.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low water pressure after tank cleaning

 

 

So...we had to pull out the refer (frigoboat) to determine why it wasn't getting cold enough (it was at 45 degrees F at the coldest setting).  The foam used for a filter was completely falling apart and plugged.  The heat transfer coil was plugged with dirt.  So we cleaned it up and replaced the filters.

 

While we were at it we decided to clean the water storage tank.  Job done.  

 

However, when we were done and turned the taps on, the flow was substantially diminished.  I assume the pick-up tube picked up some dirt from the tank when we were pumping it down.  We had pumped the tank down to about 300L and then scrubbed with a brush.  Then we pumped it down to just a few inches in the tank, and vacumned the tank with a wet dry vac until it was dry.  We refilled the tank and started using the water when there was a 3 or 4 inches of water in the tank.

 

Right away the flow was reduced by at least half.  I'm assuming due to a chunk the pick-up tube picked up and is blocking flow.  

 

My question: where to look for the plug first?

 

Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM #477


Low water pressure after tank cleaning

Duane Siegfri
 

So...we had to pull out the refer (frigoboat) to determine why it wasn't getting cold enough (it was at 45 degrees F at the coldest setting).  The foam used for a filter was completely falling apart and plugged.  The heat transfer coil was plugged with dirt.  So we cleaned it up and replaced the filters.


While we were at it we decided to clean the water storage tank.  Job done.  


However, when we were done and turned the taps on, the flow was substantially diminished.  I assume the pick-up tube picked up some dirt from the tank when we were pumping it down.  We had pumped the tank down to about 300L and then scrubbed with a brush.  Then we pumped it down to just a few inches in the tank, and vacumned the tank with a wet dry vac until it was dry.  We refilled the tank and started using the water when there was a 3 or 4 inches of water in the tank.


Right away the flow was reduced by at least half.  I'm assuming due to a chunk the pick-up tube picked up and is blocking flow.  


My question: where to look for the plug first?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM #477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Problematic Mainsail Furling in mid 80s Maramu/Sharki models

James Alton
 

John,

   Having sailed mostly on boats without furling of any kind due in part to my perceived  unreliability of many of the non Amel furling systems I was actually looking originally for a pre 1985 Maramu with the original rig with slides.  There isn’t much to go wrong.  Not as much to maintain and you can end up with better sail shape due to battens and a positive roach.   I ended up with a latter 1987 Maramu with the in mast furling however and it did not take me long to realize the advantages of the Amel furling system.  The Amel furling system on Sueno seems to be very robust and adjusting the sail area from the cockpit when the spray is flying without anyone having to go one deck is a really nice feature.  Perhaps others can confirm this but I do not believe that Amel built a furling system for the main and mizzen that sits outside of the spar for the Maramu as you describe so I suspect what you have described is an after market product.  The transition was from the traditional track and slides to the in mast furling from what I have learned thus far.  Personally, if I had bought an older Maramu, I would have stayed with the original Amel track and slides which I am sure work fine.  

   Best of luck with your search.

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Apr 3, 2017, at 1:35 PM, jdbedforduk@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Dear Amel Collective,


Firstly I have been lurking ion the background soaking up as much information as I can from the group as it is my intention to buy a Sharki or Maramu within the next couple of months.


Some of the boats I am looking at have the older mainsail furling set behind the mast whereas others have the in mast furling as seen often on more modern boats. In my quest for knowledge I seem to recall a comment by another group member that the earlier mainsail furling was troublesome compared with the in-mast version, and I guess Amel changed it for good reason. I now can't track down this comment and hence this post!


Whilst I would probably prefer the Sharki, would it be better to get an in-mast furled Maramu instead of an older furling system Sharki or are both systems actually perfectly sound?


I very much look forward to your expertise and comments.


John




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Hot Water Heater Element

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks Bill.

I will follow your instructions to the letter.

All the best.

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Hot Water Heater Element

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

Depending on the amount of use, that element will last 5-10 years before you have to do it again. It is fairly easy to do. On a Super Maramu you can do it with the water heater in place and remained connected to the engine coolant supply. Use a camera to document electrical and hose connects...you do not want to make a mistake.
  1. Turn off the water pump. 
  2. Disconnect the 2 Bronze/Copper fittings from the tank that are connected to the fresh water supply. Don't disconnect the 2 engine hoses. 
  3. Let the water drain into the gray water bilge. 
  4. Remove the element. 
  5. Use a wet vac to get the rest of the water and crud out of the tank. Don't be surprised to find a dozen plastic wire tie pieces in the tank. 
  6. Install the new element with a new gasket.
  7. Reconnect the fittings.
  8. Turn on the fresh water pump
  9. Open the tap at the galley sink to bleed air from hot and cold water.
Plug into shore power or start the generator to test.

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe


On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:53 PM, pstas2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for all the replies.  I think this go around I’m going to just do the element and gasket.  We shall see if that was the correct decision down the road (or channel).

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Hot Water Heater Element

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks for all the replies.  I think this go around I’m going to just do the element and gasket.  We shall see if that was the correct decision down the road (or channel).

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com


Reeling damage on AMEL54

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

in the rear of the boat, both reeling on my AMEL54 lost a couple of screws, or even worse - broke - and half of it still is in the hole. As a result I get water into the upper compartments of the owner cabin. To repair it, we need to know how it looks on the other side. Is there a mounting plate installed or something else /if so what exactly? How do we get to the counter nut? There seems no obvious way to get to that place. Do we have to cut into the fiberglass to get to a point that allows to work on it?
A very similar problem occurs at the starboard side with the metal plate the holds the down sail pole. Same question: How is it mounted? How do we get to it to work on it from the other side?
I’m in St. Martin and there are some god resources here to work on boats. However, as I plan to sail down to Martinique anyway, it would be good to know a company that knows AMEL hulls and can help with these kind of issues.
Thanks a lot, Alex
AMEL54 no 15, SY NO STRESS


Problematic Mainsail Furling in mid 80s Maramu/Sharki models

jdbedforduk@...
 

Dear Amel Collective,


Firstly I have been lurking ion the background soaking up as much information as I can from the group as it is my intention to buy a Sharki or Maramu within the next couple of months.


Some of the boats I am looking at have the older mainsail furling set behind the mast whereas others have the in mast furling as seen often on more modern boats. In my quest for knowledge I seem to recall a comment by another group member that the earlier mainsail furling was troublesome compared with the in-mast version, and I guess Amel changed it for good reason. I now can't track down this comment and hence this post!


Whilst I would probably prefer the Sharki, would it be better to get an in-mast furled Maramu instead of an older furling system Sharki or are both systems actually perfectly sound?


I very much look forward to your expertise and comments.


John


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Hot Water Heater Element

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Paul;
 
Our water heater started popping breakers a few month ago.
 
Instead of just changing  the element, we decided to change the entire water heater. We figured there is electrical wiring, the heat exchange tube and other issues that make cause future issues in our 8 year old water heater. Since removing the water heater required removing the exhaust pipe on the generator, we also got to inspect the carbon buildup in the exhaust by running a camera in it. The job took about 8 hours going real slow to get it right.
 
I'm sure the layout in our 54 is a bit different than yours. If we had decided to only replace the element, we would have had to replace some wiring since there was some corrosion there as well. I'm sure service of the existing would have worked fine also.
 
Ours was a  Isotemp Basic 40lt 230V/750W.
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Hot Water Heater Element

Stephen Davis
 

My Isotemp heater draws around 3.5 amps AC when you turn it on, which after doing the math seems like a 750 watt element

Steve
Aloha SM 72
St Maarten 

On Apr 3, 2017, at 11:30, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul,

I last changed it with a 750, but do not know if that was the original size. Be sure you also get a new gasket. I don't think it normally comes with a gasket. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Apr 3, 2017 10:25, "pstas2003" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hello All,

I am away from the boat and need to order a new heating element kit for our Isotemp Hot Water Heater.  There are three options available from this vendor:

http://www.isotherm-parts.com/isotemp-water-heater-parts-c-15_41/?page=2&sort=3a

220 Volt/750 Watt, 220 Volt/1200 Watt and  220 Volt/2000 Watt elements/kits.

I’m not sure what wattage the original unit was fitted with.

I have searched the files and older postings for this information, but have not been able to locate it.

Does anyone know the correct wattage for the Isotemp utilized by Amel in 2005 SM models?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Hot Water Heater Element

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

I last changed it with a 750, but do not know if that was the original size. Be sure you also get a new gasket. I don't think it normally comes with a gasket. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Apr 3, 2017 10:25, "pstas2003" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hello All,

I am away from the boat and need to order a new heating element kit for our Isotemp Hot Water Heater.  There are three options available from this vendor:

http://www.isotherm-parts.com/isotemp-water-heater-parts-c-15_41/?page=2&sort=3a

220 Volt/750 Watt, 220 Volt/1200 Watt and  220 Volt/2000 Watt elements/kits.

I’m not sure what wattage the original unit was fitted with.

I have searched the files and older postings for this information, but have not been able to locate it.

Does anyone know the correct wattage for the Isotemp utilized by Amel in 2005 SM models?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com