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Re: Volvo D3

Arno Luijten
 

With a D3-110 you have an engine block that has a bigger installed base than lots of other marine engines. Virtually all larger Volvo cars with diesel engines in the approx 2005-2018 were equipped with this block.
What make this engine problematic is the tolerance for poor maintenance. It has very little. This is valid for all common rail diesels. In return you get amazing power and torque from a relatively light engine with little vibration and good fuel economy. And yes, you also get better emissions but that is of little use for the individual user of the engine. Still relevant though.
So as said by others you should take exceptional good care of the engine to keep it happy. Make sure you use proper diesel additives to prevent diesel fuel problems. Use the correct filters (also for the racor), change oil regularly. Check the engine at regular intervals when running for long periods, especially the raw water pump. Keep an eye on the coolant temperature and familiarize yourself with the temperatures of the coolant relative to the engine load. This will give you a hint if the cooling system is clogging up.
Make sure the waist-gate of the turbo works well and is not seized up. You can feel if the turbo spins freely by removing the air-filter when the engine is off.
Listen to the engine when it is running and learn to known the normal engine sound. When it changes find out why. Do not wait until things take a turn for the worse.

I’ve heard Volvo Penta is taking the engine out of production because Volvo cars is no longer using it in any of their passenger cars. A direct replacement is not yet announced.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Insurance

Patrick McAneny
 

Miles, 
Based on your recommendation ,I contacted  Bob at Trident . We had a good conversation for about 20 minutes or so,he sent me an application ,which we filled out ,scanned and sent back to him. That was 13 days ago and I have not heard a peep from him. After a few days passed I emailed him and asked him to confirm that he received the app., no response ,a few days later , I called his office,the secretary said she would have him return my call,no call back, yesterday I emailed him again , stating that I had sent the app. called once and emailed twice and that I had not gotten any response from him . Obviously I am done with him and will not deal with him , I can't imagine the response if I had a claim.
I had mentioned ,that I did not like the restrictive policy I presently have ,that may have been a deal breaker for him . I just wished he had told me to F/off ,rather than waste my time filling out forms and emailing . 
Insurance is becoming a major issue that may deter many people from getting involved in cruising,which is a bad thing for all .
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Miles <milesbid@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Apr 22, 2021 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

Hi Kent,

I am not doing so well.  After giving me a very good quote, Travelers sent a policy that was limited to coast sailing and had much restricted navigation dates.  So far, Trident has not fixed this, so I am again looking for insurance.
I look forward to seeing you and Iris this summer.
Miles
sm 216, SY Ladybug, still in Martinique


Re: Insurance

Miles
 

Hi Kent,

I am not doing so well.  After giving me a very good quote, Travelers sent a policy that was limited to coast sailing and had much restricted navigation dates.  So far, Trident has not fixed this, so I am again looking for insurance.
I look forward to seeing you and Iris this summer.
Miles
sm 216, SY Ladybug, still in Martinique


Re: problems Engine #alignment

eric freedman
 
Edited

Hi Michael,

 

Some of the following might not apply if you do not have a disk brake.

 

The alignment is straight forward but slightly complicated.

The engine must be disconnected from the C drive and coupling.

The engine is then lifted, and the alignment tool is installed. The engine is dropped down and using the alignment tool and adjusting the engine mount adjustments the engine is aligned.

The engine is then lifted, and the tool is removed.

It is then dropped down and reassembled. You will need to make bolts from threaded rod to hold the coupling to the disk brake. The aluminum coupling in the photo that you received is one that I had made.

 

Attached is a few pages from Bill Rouse’s book which he translated from another members work.

The engine mounts you have might be different as you might have a Volvo and not a Yanmar engine.

 

The entire process takes about 6 hours, I just put a new engine in Kimberlite and start to finish it took me 4 ½ hours as I had replaced the engine mounts and donuts previously and I was familiar with the process.

 

The replacement of the donuts does not require removing the engine if it is just the donuts. You can just disconnect the engine , push it aft and replace the donuts and put the engine . However, if it were me I would do the entire process.

 

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of michael winand via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 1:07 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] problems Engine #alignment

 

Hi Dave,  Do you have experience working with the alignment tool?

I am interested in knowing how you can remove the tool once the engine is in alignment?

Can you please explain how long the vetas coupling rubbers should last?

Regards Michael Nebo sm251 

 

 

On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 2:22 pm, Davi Rozgonyi

I don't know the specific answer but I will say this: there are many otherwise fine mechanics who will insist they can bust that engine back on with their feeler gauges and holy water.... DON'T LET THEM DO IT WITHOUT THE TOOL. It can be fabbed up in 30 minutes at any machine shop. Without it you will chew up vetus couplings like tenderloin steak. 

 


Re: problems Engine #alignment

Davi Rozgonyi
 

As Bill said, you align with tool, then you slide the engine back a few inches, remove tool, then slide it forward again and it will retain that sweet spot. I have no idea how long the rubbers should last, but when my engine was misaligned, it tore them up in a few hundred miles, mostly without making a single shudder. Only the last few miles did it start vibrating enough to notice. 


Re: problems Engine #alignment

 

Michael,

Once aligned with the fixed coupling (tool), the engine slides aft on the mounts, the tool is removed and then the engine is slid back in place. Until you have done it, it may be hard to understand.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:07 AM michael winand via groups.io <mfw642000=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Dave,  Do you have experience working with the alignment tool?
I am interested in knowing how you can remove the tool once the engine is in alignment?
Can you please explain how long the vetas coupling rubbers should last?
Regards Michael Nebo sm251 



On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 2:22 pm, Davi Rozgonyi
I don't know the specific answer but I will say this: there are many otherwise fine mechanics who will insist they can bust that engine back on with their feeler gauges and holy water.... DON'T LET THEM DO IT WITHOUT THE TOOL. It can be fabbed up in 30 minutes at any machine shop. Without it you will chew up vetus couplings like tenderloin steak. 


Re: Volvo D3

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Courtney and Porter,

don't worry, the D3-110 is just a modern diesel engine as installed in millions of cars. Sure, at sea we don't need superfluous computers and high tech when it can be done simply. Here, however, the regulations set the framework.
Our engine from the series "C" has over 16oo hours without failure. but we once had a defective boost pressure sensor like you, but could not identify the error codes in the EVC display. To do this, a first Volvo technician had to come with a special Vodia tester (only at Volvo), then the fault was clear after 5 seconds. Stupid only that not at each corner a Volvo service waits. I don't know if it is a smart idea to get such a tester, and all the sensors that are installed in the engine, as well as a spare? The sensor was not in stock at the importer in Greece and had to be ordered in Sweden. It took more than 2 weeks. Since then, our machine runs perfectly. It is important that the intercooler and heat exchanger is completely cleaned regularly. We did this last year, both were 80% clogged with scale and debris. After an acid bath and new seals, everything is now like new again. We do not need to talk about regular oil changes and impeller replacement. Volvo has told me that the machine has remained basically the same over the years, there were only adjustments to the auxiliary units. We still have a good feeling with our machine like many other 54's. so no worries.

Be happy with your engine as your best friend and take good care of it. You should love it like your sails, mate.

Best wishes and stay safe!

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ / A54#088
<>

Cheers Porter glad to hear life is good 
👍🏻😁
Courtney 
Trippin 
54#101


On Apr 21, 2021, at 5:41 PM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Paul. 
I’d be happy to speak to you off line if you wish. 

In short we bought a 54. The furlers were a problem and we changed them, and the VD3-110 died. We replaced the engine.   Would I buy the boat again?  Absolutely yes. It’s an amazing machine. Even with the original furlers, knowing what I now know, I might not have needed to change them. Re the engine I agree with Bill R completely. Now we have a D3-110 “H” model. Like Teun. Great engine. But as the D3-“C”motor ages, it proves its genetics: sound or faulty. Ours died a relatively early death. 

The A54 is wonderful. Amazing actually. We’re about 24k NM into our love affair. Heading to Fiji soon for another 2k. We’ve been on all sorts of other boats, cool in their own ways. 55s, 64s Gunboats, leopards, everything. I’ve not been tempted to have another boat. I’d have either a SM or a 54 all over again. ( I do have a slight weakness for a Farr 60 pilot house). Or the new Amel 50, if I was around a lot of orcas. 😄. 

Don’t be turned away. These boats are simply incredibly designed. The culmination of decades of nautical head scratching and millions of miles. Built to be single handed by a blind guy in the worst conditions. Wife and kid approved and loved as well.  Get one!

Best of luck. 

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152

On Apr 21, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:


Paul,
 
I replaced the VOLVO D3 110iC in 2018 with the VOLVO D3 110iH
 
Pls contact me directly ( teun@... ) and I will explain.
 
Best Regards Teun
April 21, 2021 07:48:28
 
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 07:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3
 
As a prospective buyer of a 54 I am anxious about all the negative comments online about the Volvo D3. Could you place this in context for me? Is this a bad engine with limited life? Are problems common place? Is it reliable?
Anyone had to replace engine, if so with what and at what cost.
The problem with the internet is that problems tend to be magnified and reliability is under reported.
I just want to place my anxiety in context.
Thx
Paul



Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Scott SV Tengah
 

They are made by a Swedish company. Open up the electrical box in the lazarette and you'll send the company name. Simpson slaps their label on the remote and charges you more. It's a simple RF transmitter, I think. 

That said, my receiver failed and triggered the "up" motion out of the blue. The magnetic stop switch failed too so it just kept pulling up until the wires melted. I disconnected it permanently.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 5:19 PM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

In 2018 I tried to order 2 new remotes for the electric Davits; after many Emails with no reply I called COONEY UK and they quoted something like GBP300 or GBP350 per unit plus shipping but didn’t want to deal directly with retail. My NEW CALEDONIA marine contact tried to order and didn’t get any response either.

 

I gave up and just use the controls on the Davits.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 21, 2021 08:18:06

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Foster via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 07:27
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Simpson Davits Maintenance

 

Hi Scott

 

Same thing Cooney asked for 7000€ for new manual Davits since they pretended it could not be upgraded to Dyneema. 

 

So I asked the local yard to do the Dyneema upgrade two years ago  for around 200€. Unfortunately I wasn’t there to see how they did it.

 

In fact it has worked quite well. 

 

I learned it was better to leave the lines down with the weights in the middle when tender in use in the water. Quicker and easier to lift back up.

 

I am still looking for shop manual that would describe the inside and procedures.

 

Thank s again for your help.

 

Denis 

Envoyé de mon iPhone



Le 21 avr. 2021 à 12:40, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Denis,

 

Yes, I changed the wire out to dyneema. Very good upgrade. I think Simpson wanted 4000 GBP for it and it cost me 100 euros to simply change it.

 

Of course at the end of the davit where the line makes a 90 degree turn, there's a sheave. Perhaps yours is well worn or binding?

 

To access the motor/gearbox on mine, you just remove the small allen bolts on the forward (in relation to the boat) portion of the davits. On our electric davits, you remove four quite large screws from underneath the arm and the motor/gearbox bracket comes right out. Sadly, I've had to fix it more times than I care to mention.

 

Scott

 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:28 PM Denis Foster <deniswfoster@...> wrote:

Hi Scott,

Thanks for your reply. Did you change from wire to dyneema? 

I feel but can t see that one of the sheaves inside has friction that our ordinary weight is not sufficient to overcome.

I can t find a diagram view of the mechanism in our Series 7 Simpson Davits

BTW great information from your social media.

Best regards

Denis


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: problems Engine #alignment

michael winand
 

Hi Dave,  Do you have experience working with the alignment tool?
I am interested in knowing how you can remove the tool once the engine is in alignment?
Can you please explain how long the vetas coupling rubbers should last?
Regards Michael Nebo sm251 



On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 2:22 pm, Davi Rozgonyi
<davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:
I don't know the specific answer but I will say this: there are many otherwise fine mechanics who will insist they can bust that engine back on with their feeler gauges and holy water.... DON'T LET THEM DO IT WITHOUT THE TOOL. It can be fabbed up in 30 minutes at any machine shop. Without it you will chew up vetus couplings like tenderloin steak. 


Re: problems Engine #alignment

Davi Rozgonyi
 

I don't know the specific answer but I will say this: there are many otherwise fine mechanics who will insist they can bust that engine back on with their feeler gauges and holy water.... DON'T LET THEM DO IT WITHOUT THE TOOL. It can be fabbed up in 30 minutes at any machine shop. Without it you will chew up vetus couplings like tenderloin steak. 


Re: Volvo D3

Courtney Gorman
 

Never stranded sometimes perplexed.  I am right now trying to source an air boost sensor for my Penta D3 without it I am stuck with 2500 RPM as opposed to 3000 RPM however I rarely if ever cruise above 2200 RPM. The big issue is Amel used a different sensor than most Volvo engines so now I am searching for the right part.In the meantime I keep cruising.


On Apr 21, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Paul Harries via groups.io <Pharries@...> wrote:

Thanks to you all
Did any of you have the D3 leave you stranded? What is appx cost of replacing the D3.

And Porter, I hope you get to the Cook Islands. On my previous round the world trip Aitutaki was the absolute high point, back then it was undeveloped,  I gather it is now a high class island resort. 



Re: Volvo D3

Paul Harries
 

Thanks to you all
Did any of you have the D3 leave you stranded? What is appx cost of replacing the D3.

And Porter, I hope you get to the Cook Islands. On my previous round the world trip Aitutaki was the absolute high point, back then it was undeveloped,  I gather it is now a high class island resort. 



Re: Volvo D3

Courtney Gorman
 

Cheers Porter glad to hear life is good 
👍🏻😁
Courtney 
Trippin 
54#101


On Apr 21, 2021, at 5:41 PM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Paul. 
I’d be happy to speak to you off line if you wish. 

In short we bought a 54. The furlers were a problem and we changed them, and the VD3-110 died. We replaced the engine.   Would I buy the boat again?  Absolutely yes. It’s an amazing machine. Even with the original furlers, knowing what I now know, I might not have needed to change them. Re the engine I agree with Bill R completely. Now we have a D3-110 “H” model. Like Teun. Great engine. But as the D3-“C”motor ages, it proves its genetics: sound or faulty. Ours died a relatively early death. 

The A54 is wonderful. Amazing actually. We’re about 24k NM into our love affair. Heading to Fiji soon for another 2k. We’ve been on all sorts of other boats, cool in their own ways. 55s, 64s Gunboats, leopards, everything. I’ve not been tempted to have another boat. I’d have either a SM or a 54 all over again. ( I do have a slight weakness for a Farr 60 pilot house). Or the new Amel 50, if I was around a lot of orcas. 😄. 

Don’t be turned away. These boats are simply incredibly designed. The culmination of decades of nautical head scratching and millions of miles. Built to be single handed by a blind guy in the worst conditions. Wife and kid approved and loved as well.  Get one!

Best of luck. 

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152

On Apr 21, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:



Paul,

 

I replaced the VOLVO D3 110iC in 2018 with the VOLVO D3 110iH

 

Pls contact me directly ( teun@... ) and I will explain.

 

Best Regards Teun

April 21, 2021 07:48:28

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 07:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3

 

As a prospective buyer of a 54 I am anxious about all the negative comments online about the Volvo D3. Could you place this in context for me? Is this a bad engine with limited life? Are problems common place? Is it reliable?
Anyone had to replace engine, if so with what and at what cost.
The problem with the internet is that problems tend to be magnified and reliability is under reported.
I just want to place my anxiety in context.
Thx

Paul


Re: Volvo D3

Porter McRoberts
 

Paul. 
I’d be happy to speak to you off line if you wish. 

In short we bought a 54. The furlers were a problem and we changed them, and the VD3-110 died. We replaced the engine.   Would I buy the boat again?  Absolutely yes. It’s an amazing machine. Even with the original furlers, knowing what I now know, I might not have needed to change them. Re the engine I agree with Bill R completely. Now we have a D3-110 “H” model. Like Teun. Great engine. But as the D3-“C”motor ages, it proves its genetics: sound or faulty. Ours died a relatively early death. 

The A54 is wonderful. Amazing actually. We’re about 24k NM into our love affair. Heading to Fiji soon for another 2k. We’ve been on all sorts of other boats, cool in their own ways. 55s, 64s Gunboats, leopards, everything. I’ve not been tempted to have another boat. I’d have either a SM or a 54 all over again. ( I do have a slight weakness for a Farr 60 pilot house). Or the new Amel 50, if I was around a lot of orcas. 😄. 

Don’t be turned away. These boats are simply incredibly designed. The culmination of decades of nautical head scratching and millions of miles. Built to be single handed by a blind guy in the worst conditions. Wife and kid approved and loved as well.  Get one!

Best of luck. 

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152

On Apr 21, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:



Paul,

 

I replaced the VOLVO D3 110iC in 2018 with the VOLVO D3 110iH

 

Pls contact me directly ( teun@... ) and I will explain.

 

Best Regards Teun

April 21, 2021 07:48:28

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 07:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3

 

As a prospective buyer of a 54 I am anxious about all the negative comments online about the Volvo D3. Could you place this in context for me? Is this a bad engine with limited life? Are problems common place? Is it reliable?
Anyone had to replace engine, if so with what and at what cost.
The problem with the internet is that problems tend to be magnified and reliability is under reported.
I just want to place my anxiety in context.
Thx

Paul


Re: problems Engine #alignment

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Bill et all,

I need to re-align the Engine / C-Drive because there are some vibrations due bad alignment or worn Vetus coupling.
In Bill’s AMEL School Book I found a description and picture of the alignment tool. Is it the same tool and measurements on both the SM and A54’s?

Thanks for advice and best regards 
Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI A54. #55

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2020 um 20:31
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] problems installing a new Yanmar engine #replacement

The simple answer is that either the soft coupling rubber donuts were not replaced, or the engine/transmission output - The Vetus Coupling and the C-Drive are not aligned correctly.

If you did not use a fixed coupling to align all of this, it was done wrong. Don't use it until all is aligned correctly.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:35 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
There are several threads on this forum on the topic.  Here is one with a description of the alignment process after changing out engine mounts:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/29770137#42520

Both the original poster Alan Grayson and I used this process AND the alignment tool after changing our engine mounts and it worked well for us.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Teun BAAS
 

In 2018 I tried to order 2 new remotes for the electric Davits; after many Emails with no reply I called COONEY UK and they quoted something like GBP300 or GBP350 per unit plus shipping but didn’t want to deal directly with retail. My NEW CALEDONIA marine contact tried to order and didn’t get any response either.

 

I gave up and just use the controls on the Davits.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 21, 2021 08:18:06

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Foster via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 07:27
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Simpson Davits Maintenance

 

Hi Scott

 

Same thing Cooney asked for 7000€ for new manual Davits since they pretended it could not be upgraded to Dyneema. 

 

So I asked the local yard to do the Dyneema upgrade two years ago  for around 200€. Unfortunately I wasn’t there to see how they did it.

 

In fact it has worked quite well. 

 

I learned it was better to leave the lines down with the weights in the middle when tender in use in the water. Quicker and easier to lift back up.

 

I am still looking for shop manual that would describe the inside and procedures.

 

Thank s again for your help.

 

Denis 

Envoyé de mon iPhone



Le 21 avr. 2021 à 12:40, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Denis,

 

Yes, I changed the wire out to dyneema. Very good upgrade. I think Simpson wanted 4000 GBP for it and it cost me 100 euros to simply change it.

 

Of course at the end of the davit where the line makes a 90 degree turn, there's a sheave. Perhaps yours is well worn or binding?

 

To access the motor/gearbox on mine, you just remove the small allen bolts on the forward (in relation to the boat) portion of the davits. On our electric davits, you remove four quite large screws from underneath the arm and the motor/gearbox bracket comes right out. Sadly, I've had to fix it more times than I care to mention.

 

Scott

 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:28 PM Denis Foster <deniswfoster@...> wrote:

Hi Scott,

Thanks for your reply. Did you change from wire to dyneema? 

I feel but can t see that one of the sheaves inside has friction that our ordinary weight is not sufficient to overcome.

I can t find a diagram view of the mechanism in our Series 7 Simpson Davits

BTW great information from your social media.

Best regards

Denis


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Volvo D3

 

Paul,

The Volvo D3 is a good engine.

I believe that there were more failures with the D3 than the previous engines installed in Amels, but there is no empirical data on this, just anecdotal. I think most of the failures were due to the fact that the D3 was Volvo Penta's first Common Rail Sensor & Computer-controlled diesel engine. This was not only a challenge for owners but also for Volvo and Volvo technicians. There was a learning curve for everyone. For instance, years ago most of us did not realize that an oil-soaked turbo boost sensor could not only cause rpm and power problems but left uncorrected could eventually cause serious damage to the engine.

As with anything, the more features, devices, and components one adds to a product, the more complicated it becomes, and the risk of failure increases. However, the Volvo D3 owners can be assured that the D3 is a much cleaner burning diesel engine that will help save the planet.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 9:10 AM Paul Harries via groups.io <Pharries=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
As a prospective buyer of a 54 I am anxious about all the negative comments online about the Volvo D3. Could you place this in context for me? Is this a bad engine with limited life? Are problems common place? Is it reliable?
Anyone had to replace engine, if so with what and at what cost.
The problem with the internet is that problems tend to be magnified and reliability is under reported.
I just want to place my anxiety in context.
Thx
Paul


Re: Volvo D3

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Paul;

 

We have had our 54 for about 6 years. We have not had any issues, other than the normal maintenance related items, with our 110, so far. We had the same concerns at the time of purchase, as you do now. Our research indicated that a handful of the 54s have had issues with their D3-110 with some of these being major, needing engine replacement, as you may have seen in this forum. Our research  was also confirmed by our surveyor Olivier, that has been involved with Amels for over 30 years.

 

This did not sway our decision as we felt that the Amel and especially the 54, represented such a uniquely qualified boat for our purposes, that even the potential for an engine replacement, would not have affected our decision to move forward.

 

Our initial decision has been reinforced throughout our 6 year ownership and have been more and more impressed by the design every year.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3

 

As a prospective buyer of a 54 I am anxious about all the negative comments online about the Volvo D3. Could you place this in context for me? Is this a bad engine with limited life? Are problems common place? Is it reliable?
Anyone had to replace engine, if so with what and at what cost.
The problem with the internet is that problems tend to be magnified and reliability is under reported.
I just want to place my anxiety in context.
Thx

Paul


Re: Volvo D3

Teun BAAS
 

Paul,

 

I replaced the VOLVO D3 110iC in 2018 with the VOLVO D3 110iH

 

Pls contact me directly ( teun@... ) and I will explain.

 

Best Regards Teun

April 21, 2021 07:48:28

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 07:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3

 

As a prospective buyer of a 54 I am anxious about all the negative comments online about the Volvo D3. Could you place this in context for me? Is this a bad engine with limited life? Are problems common place? Is it reliable?
Anyone had to replace engine, if so with what and at what cost.
The problem with the internet is that problems tend to be magnified and reliability is under reported.
I just want to place my anxiety in context.
Thx

Paul


Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Scott SV Tengah
 

If the manual ones are anything like the electric ones, it's very simple. In fact, it appears to be made in someone's home workshop. 

Just take the rear cover off and take a peek.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 4:27 PM Denis Foster <deniswfoster@...> wrote:
Hi Scott

Same thing Cooney asked for 7000€ for new manual Davits since they pretended it could not be upgraded to Dyneema. 

So I asked the local yard to do the Dyneema upgrade two years ago  for around 200€. Unfortunately I wasn’t there to see how they did it.

In fact it has worked quite well. 

I learned it was better to leave the lines down with the weights in the middle when tender in use in the water. Quicker and easier to lift back up.

I am still looking for shop manual that would describe the inside and procedures.

Thank s again for your help.

Denis 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 avr. 2021 à 12:40, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :


Denis,

Yes, I changed the wire out to dyneema. Very good upgrade. I think Simpson wanted 4000 GBP for it and it cost me 100 euros to simply change it.

Of course at the end of the davit where the line makes a 90 degree turn, there's a sheave. Perhaps yours is well worn or binding?

To access the motor/gearbox on mine, you just remove the small allen bolts on the forward (in relation to the boat) portion of the davits. On our electric davits, you remove four quite large screws from underneath the arm and the motor/gearbox bracket comes right out. Sadly, I've had to fix it more times than I care to mention.

Scott

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:28 PM Denis Foster <deniswfoster@...> wrote:

Hi Scott,

Thanks for your reply. Did you change from wire to dyneema? 

I feel but can t see that one of the sheaves inside has friction that our ordinary weight is not sufficient to overcome.

I can t find a diagram view of the mechanism in our Series 7 Simpson Davits

BTW great information from your social media.

Best regards

Denis


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Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


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Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

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