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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Onan Generator strange issue

Mark Erdos
 

Duane,

 

We just got to an area with internet and have followed this saga with great interest. Very strange situation. Did you replace the faulty valve and verify it was the cause? From what I gather, it was the freshwater flush valve for the water maker?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 6:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Onan Generator strange issue

 

 

Bob,

 

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.  We're back in the water and the genny is doing fine.  I've changed the oil five times now after 45 minute runs and the last two look normal.  

 

All is well,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - how much paint is needed??

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Colin,

I had a single part marine quality paint mixed to match the AwlGrip cream color. Pick a brand available in Australia and have them match the color. 

I did not use AwlGrip because they only make 2 part paint and I was concerned that the 2 part might set up while applying with the striping tool. I am not sure if this is correct. 

If you color the faux caulking cream, it will take two coats. Be sure to buy at least 1 liter of lacquer thinner to clean tools and mistakes. There is a learning process with the tool and getting the correct amount of thinner. If it is too thick, it will not work well with a striping tool. 

Judy and I believe that this is the very best appearance job that you can do on a Super Maramu. Second would be changing the color of the boot stripe and rub rail to desert sand. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On Apr 15, 2017 3:48 AM, "'colin.d.streeter' colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill
We love the look of your decks with the cream colour stripes and will do the sams on Island Pearl II as soon as we get a chance, possibly in Thailand. What type of paint did you use and was there a specific colour / code?
Cin & Lauren Streeter 
Island Pearl Ii. SM#332  Brisbane 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 15/04/2017 9:31 AM (GMT+10:00)
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - how much paint is needed??

 

Between 1 & 2 liters for 2 coats, if applied by a striping tool. I really suggest cream color which will take 2 coats. Be sure to sand the old paint. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Apr 14, 2017 6:09 PM, "joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Soon I will my painting my deck stripes.  I'm using a mono-urethane paint.  Can anyone provide an estimate of quantity needed to complete the job?


Ben


Ben and Gayle

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Puerto Del Rey, PR




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - how much paint is needed??

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Thanks Bill.  I'm using cream color. 
Ben 


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita
SM #347
Currently Le Marin 
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Friday, April 14, 2017, 7:31 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Between 1 & 2 liters for 2 coats, if applied by a striping tool. I really suggest cream color which will take 2 coats. Be sure to sand the old paint. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Apr 14, 2017 6:09 PM, "joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Soon I will my painting my deck stripes.  I'm using a mono-urethane paint.  Can anyone provide an estimate of quantity needed to complete the job?


Ben


Ben and Gayle

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Puerto Del Rey, PR



Re: Onan Generator strange issue

Duane Siegfri
 

Bob,

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.  We're back in the water and the genny is doing fine.  I've changed the oil five times now after 45 minute runs and the last two look normal.  

All is well,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - how much paint is needed??

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Bill
We love the look of your decks with the cream colour stripes and will do the sams on Island Pearl II as soon as we get a chance, possibly in Thailand. What type of paint did you use and was there a specific colour / code?
Cin & Lauren Streeter 
Island Pearl Ii. SM#332  Brisbane 



Sent from my SAMSUNG Galaxy S6 on the Telstra Mobile Network

-------- Original message --------
From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 15/04/2017 9:31 AM (GMT+10:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - how much paint is needed??

 

Between 1 & 2 liters for 2 coats, if applied by a striping tool. I really suggest cream color which will take 2 coats. Be sure to sand the old paint. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Apr 14, 2017 6:09 PM, "joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Soon I will my painting my deck stripes.  I'm using a mono-urethane paint.  Can anyone provide an estimate of quantity needed to complete the job?


Ben


Ben and Gayle

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Puerto Del Rey, PR



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Flag Registration

Ron Hynes <riffhynes@...>
 

I'm an American and I bought an older Amel in Holland a year ago. I registered there as the insurance was about 50% less than if I had documented in the U.S. I've been to the Netherlands, Belgium, France, United Kingdom, Spain, Portugal and the Canary Islands with absolutely no problems with my "light" registration. I used Yacht Registration Holland (just google for contact info) and can recommend them...professional, knowledgeable, fast and economical. They also provide radio licenses and can also help with corporate ownership if this is advantageous for you. 

Ron Hynes
954.319.0944

On Apr 15, 2017, at 12:22 AM, rcavie <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hello everyone. 

I do not have European residency, only nationality. I would like to know if anyone has any reference to the Dutch flag called ICP = International Certificate for Pleasure Craft.

All European countries can issue an ICP but the Dutch Flag Registration is by far the easiest and lowest rates then the other European flags.

I would like to know if it has some restrictions of use in the Caribbean in waters of countries that are not in the dependence of any European country.

Thank you

Rafael 

SM2k 246 Future Manutara



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Amel 50

hanspeter baettig
 

Alexandre
i do not like critisme about Amel's new projects. I like the way Amel goes on the inovating way to bring new blue water sailing boat to the market. that's the way to be and to stay in this very competitive business
best regards
Hanspeter
SM16,Tamango 2
Sizilien, Licata

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 14.04.2017 um 22:31 schrieb Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Interesting they abandoned the C Drive for a more conventional direct shaft.

Not a fan of straight bow... longer water line will give more speed at the cost of confort in heavier sea...

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA

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On Fri, 4/14/17, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Amel 50
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, April 14, 2017, 12:04 PM


 









The new Amel



Photos: AMEL 50 Reveal | Cruising World

http://www.cruisingworld.com/photos-amel-50-reveal?K0XIIo0AVlzHrlxx.03



Mark Pitt



Sabbatical III, SM #418





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - how much paint is needed??

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Between 1 & 2 liters for 2 coats, if applied by a striping tool. I really suggest cream color which will take 2 coats. Be sure to sand the old paint. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Apr 14, 2017 6:09 PM, "joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Soon I will my painting my deck stripes.  I'm using a mono-urethane paint.  Can anyone provide an estimate of quantity needed to complete the job?


Ben


Ben and Gayle

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Puerto Del Rey, PR



Flag Registration

rcavie <no_reply@...>
 

Hello everyone. 

I do not have European residency, only nationality. I would like to know if anyone has any reference to the Dutch flag called ICP = International Certificate for Pleasure Craft.

All European countries can issue an ICP but the Dutch Flag Registration is by far the easiest and lowest rates then the other European flags.

I would like to know if it has some restrictions of use in the Caribbean in waters of countries that are not in the dependence of any European country.

Thank you

Rafael 

SM2k 246 Future Manutara



Painting deck stripes - how much paint is needed??

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Soon I will my painting my deck stripes.  I'm using a mono-urethane paint.  Can anyone provide an estimate of quantity needed to complete the job?


Ben


Ben and Gayle

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Puerto Del Rey, PR


Re: Replacing AMFA Fresh Water System by Jabsco

Dominique Guenot
 

Exactly the experience I was looking for

Paul, Mark, 
Thank you so much for taking the time 
Dominique
Currently in NYC
S/V Viva #374
Opua, New Zealand


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Amel 50

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Interesting they abandoned the C Drive for a more conventional direct shaft.

Not a fan of straight bow... longer water line will give more speed at the cost of confort in heavier sea...

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA



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On Fri, 4/14/17, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@brown.edu [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Amel 50
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 14, 2017, 12:04 PM


 









The new Amel



Photos: AMEL 50 Reveal | Cruising World

http://www.cruisingworld.com/photos-amel-50-reveal?K0XIIo0AVlzHrlxx.03



Mark Pitt



Sabbatical III, SM #418


Re: What travel insurance for cruisers?

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Thomas;

We use GeoBlue for personal travel health insurance outside US. They cover all expenses, repatriation, etc. And seem pretty comprehensive. We have never had to use it. You simply get on their website, give them your travel dates and some simple information and you get a quote that you can bind online.

However all of this assumes that you are a US citizen and have US health insurance for the US.

We also have DAN boater insurance that is a very good value for extreme situations.

Mohammad and Aty
AMEL 54 #099
B&B kokomo


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] What travel insurance for cruisers?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thomas,

There is no short answer to your question and certainly Americans will have a different answer than someone from France or the EU.

We used the following for our circumnavigation, but they would not insure us in US waters. Contact:
Geoffroy de LASSEE | ASSURANCES MARITIMES de LASSEE 
5 rue de la trinquette - BP 50066 - 17003 La Rochelle
T. +33(0) 5 46 45 46 45 | gdelassee"at"assurances-delassee.com 
RCS La Rochelle : 421 832 908 | Numero ORIAS 07 030 457 | www.orias.fr 
Sous l'autorité de l'ACPR - 61, rue Taitbout - 75009 Paris

We later changed to Velos because they insured in US waters. Contact: insurance"at"velosgroup.co.uk 

We paid cash for our personal medical needs around the world, but when you are in US you will need some sort of health care insurance because even simple doctor visits, medication and procedures are very, very high priced for cash customers. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550


 
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:24 AM, svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All,


When purchasing our boat insurance, we realised that the cover was limited to events occurring while onboard or getting on/off the boat. Likewise, cover for gadgets/electronics was limited to equipment used for navigation (laptops/photography/video/phones not covered).

We also found that classic travel insurance typically covers trips for 60-90 consecutive days and from the main residence place only.


Therefore, what insurance cover does a long-term (12+mths) cruiser need when ashore in foreign countries (in particular for belongings, personal liability, medical)?

Would this come under Yach tman travel insurance (including liveaboard)? 


We would like to hear about your views and experience on this topic.


Thanks and BR 

Thomas & Soraya
Garulfo
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde



 



new Amel 50

Mark Pitt
 

The new Amel

Photos: AMEL 50 Reveal | Cruising World
http://www.cruisingworld.com/photos-amel-50-reveal?K0XIIo0AVlzHrlxx.03

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM #418


What travel insurance for cruisers?

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi All,


When purchasing our boat insurance, we realised that the cover was limited to events occurring while onboard or getting on/off the boat. Likewise, cover for gadgets/electronics was limited to equipment used for navigation (laptops/photography/video/phones not covered).

We also found that classic travel insurance typically covers trips for 60-90 consecutive days and from the main residence place only.


Therefore, what insurance cover does a long-term (12+mths) cruiser need when ashore in foreign countries (in particular for belongings, personal liability, medical)?

Would this come under Yachtman travel insurance (including liveaboard)? 


We would like to hear about your views and experience on this topic.


Thanks and BR 

Thomas & Soraya
Garulfo
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde



 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Replacing AMFA Fresh Water System by Jabsco

Mark Pitt
 

Hi,

I did away with the accumulator tank altogether and installed a Jabsco variable-flow pump two years ago: Jabsco V-Flo 5.0 Water Pressure Pump, variable flow, constant pressure. Model 42755-0094 (19-LPM, 40-PSI, 24-Volt, 6 Amps). So far it works great but I keep a spare on-board.

Mark

Sabbatical III, SM#419

On 4/13/2017 7:31 PM, osterberg.paul.l@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Hello Dominique
We installed a Jabsco par 4 pump with a Johnosn 2 liter accumulator tank, we thought the Jabsco was to small and the quality did not look great. So fare it works very well. We will probably replace the anchor wash punp with a Jabsco pump par 4, and buy two as spare then they can replace the toilet punps as well as fresh water and anchor wash pump.That will give flexibility and reduce number of different pumps ro keep as spare
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Bahamas

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Generator Flooded with Fresh Water

rossirossix4
 

Hi Duane,

I promised Bill and Duane I would post a summary of the problem and have changed the subject line for better results in searches.  I emailed Duane rather than posting, hoping to sort things out instead of having a flurry of back and forth posts and bounced ideas off of Bill while we were confirming the problem.

When I saw Duane's post evolving I emailed him to suggest a possible cause--a slow (bypass) leak from the desalination 3-way valve between the freshwater to the saltwater systems and offered a simple test: observe the water level in the strainer with the seacock (sea intake ball valve) closed and the fresh water system pressured up.  If it rises over time--even slowly--it is a problem.  Even with a very slow leak it will continue to push water into the sea water manifold.  It seems that the generator loop is the way out for this water.  The diesel engine raw water loop (fortunately) and the desalination filters are higher and for some reason the water does not escape through the AC loop  (I am guessing it has something to do with the way salt water is selectively diverted to the 3 AC units).  Of course, if the seacock to the strainer is open (either on-land or in the water) pressure will not build up and cause a problem.

I had had the same problem but happened to catch it quickly as I was trouble shooting for the source of the fresh water leak.   Because the bypass leak can be very, very small (and still cause major problems over time) it can be difficult to detect by noticing excessive freshwater pump cycling.  Like Duane, I had heard my fresh water pump cycle just once in the middle of the night.  Also, difficulty cranking the generator can be a sign of a full lift muffler.  It is probably only after the muffler and exhaust hose fills that water will back into the generator.

The problem is solved by installing a new 3-way valve.  I am sure that Dessalator and Amel used a good valve, but after 10 years of exposure to salt water, a bit of electrolysis, etc, and perhaps lack of being worked it can develop a very slow leak that potentially could lead to a very big problem.  I think that 3 way valves may be more susceptible to these kinds of problems than 2 way ball valves because the openings are closer. 

I did not post at the time because I thought I had just made a procedural error.  I have a 2 way ball valve between the salt water manifold and 3 way.  Had I closed that during non-use of the Dessalator there would not have been a problem.  I have just learned that it is not standard on Amels.  I would, however suggest considering the valve and it is pretty easy to add if you are replacing your 3-way.  If you have a leak in the filters or somewhere else in your desalination system you can still operate your engine and generator and it is handy when working on your system.  It also prevents a potentially expensive problem if the 3 way valve develops a bypass leak over time.  Occasionally I will forget to open it before making water but immediately see no low water pressure--I always look for this because I am also checking to make sure the low pressure feed pump is operating.  Checking the oil in your generator before every operation is not a bad idea.

Bob, KAIMI SM 429
Cavtat, Croatia



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rigging quotes

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Craig,

Yes, it was from ACMO.  Shipping by air to Antalya, Turkey was euros 530.  Everything was nicely packed and labeled (in French) on a pallet.

Best,

Mark
Sabbatical III, ASM #419


On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:39 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,
Thanks for the data point on price. Was that from ACMO?  Did you have it shipped and, if so, to where and for how much? What's an "ASM"?
Cheers, Craig, SN#68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi,

   I paid euros 7497.98 without shipping last year.  The price was the same for right or left handed turnbuckles.  All one needs to add is nylon spacers and grease for the headstay.

   Mark Pitt

  Sabbatical III, ASM#419


On 4/13/2017 8:54 AM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Hi Paul,

We bought ours in 2010. 
Some time ago Gary Silver posted his Super Maramu invoice from March, 2014 and it was virtually the same as yours at 7947 plus 780 for shipping (to where I don't know) for a total of 8286.

We did save some 1000€ by specifying standard right handed turnbuckles rather than the Amel original spec of left handed ones.  I don't know if Gary did that too, but you probably do on your quote. 

The difference may not be unreasonable, though, if you consider the Santorin has 6, 7, 8 and 10 mm stays versus the Super Maramu's 7,8,10 & 12mm with proportionally sized turnbuckles, plus it being 7 years ago. 

Good grief, 7 years puts me about half way to having to do it again!  I may have to have Katherine do the work aloft this time while I push the button on the windlass.

Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN68, Sangaris, Ft Pierce, Fl

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Craig and Katherine,

How long ago did you obtain your rigging from ACMO?  I just received a quote from them for a Super Maramu for 7954 € without shipping.

I realize a SM would be somewhat more expensive than a Santorin, but I had read a number of times that the number was closer to 5000 €.

Has anyone else received a quote recently from ACMO?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com
 
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rigging quotes

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Mark,
Thanks for the data point on price. Was that from ACMO?  Did you have it shipped and, if so, to where and for how much? What's an "ASM"?
Cheers, Craig, SN#68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mark_pitt@...> wrote :

Hi,

   I paid euros 7497.98 without shipping last year.  The price was the same for right or left handed turnbuckles.  All one needs to add is nylon spacers and grease for the headstay.

   Mark Pitt

  Sabbatical III, ASM#419


On 4/13/2017 8:54 AM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Hi Paul,

We bought ours in 2010. 
Some time ago Gary Silver posted his Super Maramu invoice from March, 2014 and it was virtually the same as yours at 7947 plus 780 for shipping (to where I don't know) for a total of 8286.

We did save some 1000€ by specifying standard right handed turnbuckles rather than the Amel original spec of left handed ones.  I don't know if Gary did that too, but you probably do on your quote. 

The difference may not be unreasonable, though, if you consider the Santorin has 6, 7, 8 and 10 mm stays versus the Super Maramu's 7,8,10 & 12mm with proportionally sized turnbuckles, plus it being 7 years ago. 

Good grief, 7 years puts me about half way to having to do it again!  I may have to have Katherine do the work aloft this time while I push the button on the windlass.

Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN68, Sangaris, Ft Pierce, Fl

---In amelyachtowners@..., <no_reply@...> wrote :

Craig and Katherine,

How long ago did you obtain your rigging from ACMO?  I just received a quote from them for a Super Maramu for 7954 € without shipping.

I realize a SM would be somewhat more expensive than a Santorin, but I had read a number of times that the number was closer to 5000 €.

Has anyone else received a quote recently from ACMO?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Saint Lucia

RitaKathryn.com