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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass

hanspeter baettig
 

Hi Alexandre
where do you put grease in the Tigres Lovean Windlass?
My Windlass is 25 Years old and i maintain it every 5 years ( cabels  new oil not grease! )
I use my windlass every time often wirh 70 m of 10mm chain, so far never had a problem. It's a very good product and save
Hanspeter
Tamango 2, SM 16

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 30.07.2016 um 21:09 schrieb Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


Hello Bill,

If I made mistakes, not enough grease, too much, etc. please don't hesitate to correct me, this will help others too!!!

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 7/30/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2016, 12:36 PM


 









Thanks, Alex.
BillBeBe
387
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at
4:45 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 











For the new owners like myself who are intimidated by
maintenance task they have never done performed, I
illustrated the “Basic maintenance” of the Lofrans
Tigres Windlass.



I really would like the more experience owners to look at
the document and make sure I did not make any mistake (too
much grease, etc.) and correct me.



Since I purchase my vessel (end of 2012) I had never
serviced the windlass… Why?

because I don’t use it much and gave priority to other
systems that i use all the time.

Consequently some parts were very difficult to extract.



Now that I am familiar with it, I will definitely service it
on a regular basis (starting every 3 months).

I believe this will be much easier and quicker.



This also helped me to understand better how my windlass
works.



Here is the link:

http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html



For low bandwidth user, the document is split in 5 sections.




If bandwidth is not an issue, there is also the full version
(58 pictures).



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu FRIENDSHIP II Hull #415 From San Francisco

Mark Pitt
 

I know that boat.  It was launched about the same time as my Super Maramu "Sabbatical III" and the owner, Bob Stewart from San Francisco, was finishing the one week orientation with Olivier Beaute at about the time that my wife and I started it (October 2003).  He was also in the ARC 2003 with me and the last that I saw of him and the boat was in the Caribbean in early 2004.  The only other biographical fact that I can remember is that he was in "real estate."  I hope that he is OK.

Mark Pitt

"Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Italy


On 7/30/2016 7:14 PM, yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

I saw a terrible sight today! Located at Coral Cove Marina, Trinidad in the secured hard storage area is FRIENDSHIP II, Super Maramu Red Line Hull #415 with a homeport of San Francisco. It has been on the hard since 2008 and is rotting and molding in place. There is even mold on the spreaders. What once was an all-boat cover is in shreds. According to locals nobody has visited this boat since it was placed on the hard in 2008. I was also told that someone is paying for storage.

Does anyone know anything about this boat. I have photos for the owner or an interested party. 


Best,


Bill Rouse

BeBe, 387

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

When I looked at your photo documentary, I saw nothing out of line. I downloaded it.

I have had several discussions with people that don't believe that the cone should be greased because that will cause it to slip. I always say, exactly, it is supposed to slip under heavy loads.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


Hello Bill,

If I made mistakes, not enough grease, too much, etc. please don't hesitate to correct me, this will help others too!!!

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 7/30/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2016, 12:36 PM


 









Thanks, Alex.
BillBeBe


387
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at
4:45 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 











For the new owners like myself who are intimidated by
maintenance task they have never done performed, I
illustrated the “Basic maintenance” of the Lofrans
Tigres Windlass.



I really would like the more experience owners to look at
the document and make sure I did not make any mistake (too
much grease, etc.) and correct me.



Since I purchase my vessel (end of 2012) I had never
serviced the windlass… Why?

because I don’t use it much and gave priority to other
systems that i use all the time.

Consequently some parts were very difficult to extract.



Now that I am familiar with it, I will definitely service it
on a regular basis (starting every 3 months).

I believe this will be much easier and quicker.



This also helped me to understand better how my windlass
works.



Here is the link:

http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html



For low bandwidth user, the document is split in 5 sections.




If bandwidth is not an issue, there is also the full version
(58 pictures).



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Bill,

If I made mistakes, not enough grease, too much, etc. please don't hesitate to correct me, this will help others too!!!

Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 7/30/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2016, 12:36 PM


 









Thanks, Alex.
BillBeBe
387
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at
4:45 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 











For the new owners like myself who are intimidated by
maintenance task they have never done performed, I
illustrated the “Basic maintenance” of the Lofrans
Tigres Windlass.



I really would like the more experience owners to look at
the document and make sure I did not make any mistake (too
much grease, etc.) and correct me.



Since I purchase my vessel (end of 2012) I had never
serviced the windlass… Why?

because I don’t use it much and gave priority to other
systems that i use all the time.

Consequently some parts were very difficult to extract.



Now that I am familiar with it, I will definitely service it
on a regular basis (starting every 3 months).

I believe this will be much easier and quicker.



This also helped me to understand better how my windlass
works.



Here is the link:

http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html



For low bandwidth user, the document is split in 5 sections.




If bandwidth is not an issue, there is also the full version
(58 pictures).



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu FRIENDSHIP II Hull #415 From San Francisco

James Alton
 

Agreed.

There were 3 people by that name that died in the US in and around 2008-9 according to the list that I found, but none of them lived in CA as their last address.  This still is a plausible explanation, and perhaps some of the family members are keeping the storage up.  Hopefully you can find her a new owner.

Best,
James

On Jul 30, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Always sad to see a good boat being killed by neglect!  


I have no first hand knowledge, but a bit of googling and a search of the USCG Vessel Documentation database indicates that “Friendship II” is (was?) owned by someone named Robert M. Stewart, and the USCG documentation hasn’t been renewed since 2008. With no current document, I couldn’t find an address.   Looks like he might be from in or around San Jose, CA.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Jul 30, 2016, at 13:14, yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I saw a terrible sight today! Located at Coral Cove Marina, Trinidad in the secured hard storage area is FRIENDSHIP II, Super Maramu Red Line Hull #415 with a homeport of San Francisco. It has been on the hard since 2008 and is rotting and molding in place. There is even mold on the spreaders. What once was an all-boat cover is in shreds. According to locals nobody has visited this boat since it was placed on the hard in 2008. I was also told that someone is paying for storage.

Does anyone know anything about this boat. I have photos for the owner or an interested party. 


Best,


Bill Rouse

BeBe, 387

 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu FRIENDSHIP II Hull #415 From San Francisco

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Yes, I saw that and I found his obituary from 2012. Alzheimer's. WWII vet. Enjoyed sailing.

Bill
BeBe 387



On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Always sad to see a good boat being killed by neglect!  


I have no first hand knowledge, but a bit of googling and a search of the USCG Vessel Documentation database indicates that “Friendship II” is (was?) owned by someone named Robert M. Stewart, and the USCG documentation hasn’t been renewed since 2008. With no current document, I couldn’t find an address.   Looks like he might be from in or around San Jose, CA.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Jul 30, 2016, at 13:14, yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I saw a terrible sight today! Located at Coral Cove Marina, Trinidad in the secured hard storage area is FRIENDSHIP II, Super Maramu Red Line Hull #415 with a homeport of San Francisco. It has been on the hard since 2008 and is rotting and molding in place. There is even mold on the spreaders. What once was an all-boat cover is in shreds. According to locals nobody has visited this boat since it was placed on the hard in 2008. I was also told that someone is paying for storage.

Does anyone know anything about this boat. I have photos for the owner or an interested party. 


Best,


Bill Rouse

BeBe, 387

 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu FRIENDSHIP II Hull #415 From San Francisco

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Always sad to see a good boat being killed by neglect!  

I have no first hand knowledge, but a bit of googling and a search of the USCG Vessel Documentation database indicates that “Friendship II” is (was?) owned by someone named Robert M. Stewart, and the USCG documentation hasn’t been renewed since 2008. With no current document, I couldn’t find an address.   Looks like he might be from in or around San Jose, CA.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Jul 30, 2016, at 13:14, yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I saw a terrible sight today! Located at Coral Cove Marina, Trinidad in the secured hard storage area is FRIENDSHIP II, Super Maramu Red Line Hull #415 with a homeport of San Francisco. It has been on the hard since 2008 and is rotting and molding in place. There is even mold on the spreaders. What once was an all-boat cover is in shreds. According to locals nobody has visited this boat since it was placed on the hard in 2008. I was also told that someone is paying for storage.

Does anyone know anything about this boat. I have photos for the owner or an interested party. 


Best,


Bill Rouse

BeBe, 387

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thanks, Alex.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


For the new owners like myself who are intimidated by maintenance task they have never done performed, I illustrated the “Basic maintenance” of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass.

I really would like the more experience owners to look at the document and make sure I did not make any mistake (too much grease, etc.) and correct me.

Since I purchase my vessel (end of 2012) I had never serviced the windlass… Why?
because I don’t use it much and gave priority to other systems that i use all the time.
Consequently some parts were very difficult to extract.

Now that I am familiar with it, I will definitely service it on a regular basis (starting every 3 months).
I believe this will be much easier and quicker.

This also helped me to understand better how my windlass works.

Here is the link:
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html

For low bandwidth user, the document is split in 5 sections.

If bandwidth is not an issue, there is also the full version (58 pictures).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



Super Maramu FRIENDSHIP II Hull #415 From San Francisco

yahoogroups@...
 

I saw a terrible sight today! Located at Coral Cove Marina, Trinidad in the secured hard storage area is FRIENDSHIP II, Super Maramu Red Line Hull #415 with a homeport of San Francisco. It has been on the hard since 2008 and is rotting and molding in place. There is even mold on the spreaders. What once was an all-boat cover is in shreds. According to locals nobody has visited this boat since it was placed on the hard in 2008. I was also told that someone is paying for storage.

Does anyone know anything about this boat. I have photos for the owner or an interested party. 


Best,


Bill Rouse

BeBe, 387

 


Re: Head-Holding tank ball valve replacement

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Duane,
Actually, to replace you'll have to remove and then reinstall the fiberglass structure that is around the valve base and deal with the through hull assembly.  If you can simply unscrew the to part you'll have a much easier project - the insides can be replaces with new, if that seems appropriate after you take it apart.  You may have to cut back a bit of fiberglass to take it apart, but it is still much easier.
Good luck with it.
Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris


[Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

For the new owners like myself who are intimidated by maintenance task they have never done performed, I illustrated the “Basic maintenance” of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass.

I really would like the more experience owners to look at the document and make sure I did not make any mistake (too much grease, etc.) and correct me.


Since I purchase my vessel (end of 2012) I had never serviced the windlass… Why?
because I don’t use it much and gave priority to other systems that i use all the time.
Consequently some parts were very difficult to extract.

Now that I am familiar with it, I will definitely service it on a regular basis (starting every 3 months).
I believe this will be much easier and quicker.

This also helped me to understand better how my windlass works.

Here is the link:
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html

For low bandwidth user, the document is split in 5 sections.

If bandwidth is not an issue, there is also the full version (58 pictures).


Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Flying the foc d'artimon and trinquette on Maramu 46

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

Yet another display of my ignorance but here goes...

To save me re-inventing two wheels, would anyone be able to advise me the best configurations for flying the mizzen staysail and the trinquette.

In particular, I'd value opinions on the best attachment points for the tacks and how people generally route the sheets.

Many thanks in advance

Graham Cresswell

SY Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow truster vibration

tfortner1975
 

The boat has been at the doc for quiet some time. Barnacle build up possibly? Equipment malfunction? Dried sticky seals? 

When we tried to retract it, it was intermittent. 

If I do purchase it a complete overall will be done and then maybe a final answer. 

And yes the inside starboard hull was chewed up as well. I couldn't get a clean image of it but could feel inside. 

 



On Jul 30, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Trevor, You may have nailed it , almost sure you did. The light did not go on in the down position , but I thought it was the result of a lightning strike that had blown out a fan and other lights , the buzzer also did not come on. I had  my wife look to see if the thruster went down when activated and it did , but she may not have realized it  was not down all the way. I also noticed scuffing  on the edge of the hull opening on the starboard side. I now wished I had ordered a new prop . Did you determine why the thruster did not extend all the way down ?
Thanks Again,
Pat SM #123


-----Original Message-----
From: tfortner1975@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Jul 30, 2016 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow truster vibration

 
Mate,

I just observed a survey on a Santorin for a possible purchase. Same thing occurred. Once it was out of the water we could see that it had not fully deployed downward. One direction of thrust pushes the prop away from the hull and the other direction pulls it toward the hull. The vibration was the grinding of the prop against the inside of the hull. It chewed up the edges of the blades pretty well. 

The bow thruster had a small play (not tight fitting) that allowed it to wiggle port to starboard, just slightly. 

When we grabbed the housing and pulled downward it fell a few inches into the bottom position.  Once back in the water the vibration was gone. Though we could hear it shift from port to starboard by changing thrust dir ection. 

A few things as a possible owner I took note on:

1. The housing will need to be built back up so that the outer diameter of the bow thruster glides smoothly inside the hull - there was an area on the forward starboard edge that was visibly worn down. 

2. This unit has no visual indicator at the helm station letting you know it is fully extended or retracted - poor mans choice is to simply go have a look inside the fwd cabin and inspect if it has fully deployed prior to engaging the prop. 

Hope this helps,

Trevor 


On Jul 29, 2016, at 10:13 PM, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
My bow thruster is making a loud unusual noise and vibration , but in only one direction . I was preoccupied with getting it into a travel and failed to make note of which direction it made noise. Any thoughts on what would make vibration/noise in one direction. I now wish I had left it down to take a look . It was only out for ten minutes for the surveyor to inspect the hull and once again, I was preoccupied with the task at hand to determine anything concerning the bow thruster. I will have another chance in a couple of weeks when its pulled again to switch out all the transducers. I ordered a new hub and screws from Maud to be ready, if needed.

Thanks,
Pat SM Shenanigans



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow truster vibration

Patrick McAneny
 

Alexandre, That was my thought too . When the prop was trying to pull away from the hub it could oscillate , being pushed against the hub it would not. It may be that , and it contributed to what Trevor just posted. I am very anxious to see if this is the case and may drive down to Annapolis just to find out.
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow truster vibration

 
Just a guess:
when you are going to Port it is ok, but if you are going to starboard you have the noise and vibration.
If this is the case, I would guess that the “hub” is getting old and stats to look like pictures 4 and 5 on this link
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_lost_propeller.html
You will see, the red arrow pointing to the hole that, with age, become wider.

So (if I am right) why not making noise going to Port, because the propeller is pushing the foot of the bow thruster, while going starboard it is pulling on the hub, etc.

Please keep us posted as what you find!

Personally I carry lots of spare hubs, prop, etc...

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 7/29/16, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow truster vibration
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, July 29, 2016, 1:13 PM


 









My bow thruster is making a loud
unusual noise and vibration , but in only one direction . I
was preoccupied with getting it into a travel and failed to
make note of which direction it made noise. Any thoughts on
what would make vibration/noise in one direction. I now wish
I had left it down to take a look . It was only out for ten
minutes for the surveyor to inspect the hull and once again,
I was preoccupied with the task at hand to determine
anything concerning the bow thruster. I will have another
chance in a couple of weeks when its pulled again to switch
out all the transducers. I ordered a new hub and screws from
Maud to be ready, if needed.
Thanks, Pat SM
Shenanigans











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow truster vibration

Patrick McAneny
 

Trevor, You may have nailed it , almost sure you did. The light did not go on in the down position , but I thought it was the result of a lightning strike that had blown out a fan and other lights , the buzzer also did not come on. I had  my wife look to see if the thruster went down when activated and it did , but she may not have realized it  was not down all the way. I also noticed scuffing  on the edge of the hull opening on the starboard side. I now wished I had ordered a new prop . Did you determine why the thruster did not extend all the way down ?
Thanks Again,
Pat SM #123


-----Original Message-----
From: tfortner1975@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Jul 30, 2016 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow truster vibration

 
Mate,

I just observed a survey on a Santorin for a possible purchase. Same thing occurred. Once it was out of the water we could see that it had not fully deployed downward. One direction of thrust pushes the prop away from the hull and the other direction pulls it toward the hull. The vibration was the grinding of the prop against the inside of the hull. It chewed up the edges of the blades pretty well. 

The bow thruster had a small play (not tight fitting) that allowed it to wiggle port to starboard, just slightly. 

When we grabbed the housing and pulled downward it fell a few inches into the bottom position.  Once back in the water the vibration was gone. Though we could hear it shift from port to starboard by changing thrust dir ection. 

A few things as a possible owner I took note on:

1. The housing will need to be built back up so that the outer diameter of the bow thruster glides smoothly inside the hull - there was an area on the forward starboard edge that was visibly worn down. 

2. This unit has no visual indicator at the helm station letting you know it is fully extended or retracted - poor mans choice is to simply go have a look inside the fwd cabin and inspect if it has fully deployed prior to engaging the prop. 

Hope this helps,

Trevor 


On Jul 29, 2016, at 10:13 PM, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
My bow thruster is making a loud unusual noise and vibration , but in only one direction . I was preoccupied with getting it into a travel and failed to make note of which direction it made noise. Any thoughts on what would make vibration/noise in one direction. I now wish I had left it down to take a look . It was only out for ten minutes for the surveyor to inspect the hull and once again, I was preoccupied with the task at hand to determine anything concerning the bow thruster. I will have another chance in a couple of weeks when its pulled again to switch out all the transducers. I ordered a new hub and screws from Maud to be ready, if needed.

Thanks,
Pat SM Shenanigans



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Best bottom paint methods for Caribbean

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Thanks Kent.  Great info.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jul 30, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Trinidad Island 44 is a tin-based paint.  On my boat in the tropics and in Brunswick GA, and Fernandina Beach, FL which have strong tidal flows and brackish waters, it lasted 4+ years.
BUT!!!
Although it is legal in the US for boats longer than 75ft (and is used by most commercial ships, the Navy, and the Coast Guard), the Environmental Protection Agency is sticking it to us smaller boat owners.  Nothing else sticks to that paint.  You have to remove it completely if you paint your boat next time in the US.  The EPA requires that the boat be in an enclosed space, no sandblasting allowed.  It has to be chemically stripped, then any remaining paint has to be sanded using vacuum dust collection.  Then the paint removed had to be disposed of in a lined landfill.  I learned this the hard way and got bad information and advice from Customer Service at Trinidad paints.  Just stripping the paint cost $10,000, not to mention the cost of two paint jobs.

You can buy tin based paint in the Bahamas.
What I would do is use Island 44, and buy enough to paint the boat twice.  If I was going to repaint it next time in the US, I'd either do it myself or remove the labels and call it something my else.  I'd  have 8-9 years of great bottom paint.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Curaçao


On Jul 29, 2016, at 11:00 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Ben:


I have had the bottom of our Amel SM #335 painted twice at Spice Island Marine in Grenada (last time about 6 years ago now) but they did fine work.  I always supervise any work on my boat and make sure they understand what you want done (written).  Our work included scuff sanding of hull and keel, application of two coats of anti-fouling with a third coat at the water-line and leading edges as Bill indicated.  I try to schedule the boat for two hours in sling on the day of launch to scuff sand and paint the bottom of the keel, that normally get neglected.  If you do this over the noon hour, usually they will only charge you for one hour of sling time but you get two.  

About 6 years into the ownership of our boat I noticed while in Jolly Harbor, Antigua that my boat was the only one with bottom growth even after fresh paint.  I asked what was on the other boats and was told it was Trinidad Island 44 (a paint that isn't legal in the USA because it actually works in Caribbean waters).  I have used it ever since and have been very pleased.  You might consider it for your paint choice.  I haven't compared prices with the Micron but as I recall it takes about 5 1/2 US gal to do my boat as described. 

All the best to you and Gayle,

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona   Amel SM #335   Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Best bottom paint methods for Caribbean

karkauai
 

Oops, amend my comments to read Sea Hawk Island 44 as well.  I had Kristy painted with it in Trinidad.  Duh.
Kent


On Jul 29, 2016, at 11:03 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Ben


That paint should have read SeaHawk  Island 44.  

Gary


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Best bottom paint methods for Caribbean

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Thanks Gary.  Do you recall that pain was available in Grenada? 

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jul 29, 2016, at 11:03 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Ben


That paint should have read SeaHawk  Island 44.  

Gary


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Best bottom paint methods for Caribbean

karkauai
 

Trinidad Island 44 is a tin-based paint.  On my boat in the tropics and in Brunswick GA, and Fernandina Beach, FL which have strong tidal flows and brackish waters, it lasted 4+ years.
BUT!!!
Although it is legal in the US for boats longer than 75ft (and is used by most commercial ships, the Navy, and the Coast Guard), the Environmental Protection Agency is sticking it to us smaller boat owners.  Nothing else sticks to that paint.  You have to remove it completely if you paint your boat next time in the US.  The EPA requires that the boat be in an enclosed space, no sandblasting allowed.  It has to be chemically stripped, then any remaining paint has to be sanded using vacuum dust collection.  Then the paint removed had to be disposed of in a lined landfill.  I learned this the hard way and got bad information and advice from Customer Service at Trinidad paints.  Just stripping the paint cost $10,000, not to mention the cost of two paint jobs.

You can buy tin based paint in the Bahamas.
What I would do is use Island 44, and buy enough to paint the boat twice.  If I was going to repaint it next time in the US, I'd either do it myself or remove the labels and call it something my else.  I'd  have 8-9 years of great bottom paint.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Curaçao


On Jul 29, 2016, at 11:00 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Ben:


I have had the bottom of our Amel SM #335 painted twice at Spice Island Marine in Grenada (last time about 6 years ago now) but they did fine work.  I always supervise any work on my boat and make sure they understand what you want done (written).  Our work included scuff sanding of hull and keel, application of two coats of anti-fouling with a third coat at the water-line and leading edges as Bill indicated.  I try to schedule the boat for two hours in sling on the day of launch to scuff sand and paint the bottom of the keel, that normally get neglected.  If you do this over the noon hour, usually they will only charge you for one hour of sling time but you get two.  

About 6 years into the ownership of our boat I noticed while in Jolly Harbor, Antigua that my boat was the only one with bottom growth even after fresh paint.  I asked what was on the other boats and was told it was Trinidad Island 44 (a paint that isn't legal in the USA because it actually works in Caribbean waters).  I have used it ever since and have been very pleased.  You might consider it for your paint choice.  I haven't compared prices with the Micron but as I recall it takes about 5 1/2 US gal to do my boat as described. 

All the best to you and Gayle,

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona   Amel SM #335   Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico


H&G Hydra 330 reset

yvon@...
 

Hello to all,


My Santorin is equipt with an Hydra 330. I've send it to Tinley for check-out, computer unit and FFD. 

On return, Nothing work. Tinley suggest to "reset" the system. The only information I've find about this operation is in page 209 of the h2000 user manual... But not very easy to operate... 

So, does somebody knows how to reset the system B&G?

Tank you for help

Yvon 

Santorin "Santenig"