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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wire tracing.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I will check and get back to you...how soon do you need this information?

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 5:34 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

Is the small black relay that is supposed be connected to the red light on your  DC panel 12 or 24 volts?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 1:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wire tracing.

 

 

Two other ways to label the wire are:

  1. A wire tie with a label built into it like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3MM-4MM-5MM-WHITE-NYLON-CABLE-TIES-ZIP-LABLE-TIES-FOR-FASTENING-CABLES-WIRES-/182176919372?var=&hash=item2a6a972f4c:m:msITU1dozImbHlQxDCEkWww
  2. Or use white shrink wrap on the ends of the wire, then write on the shrink wrap.

I have used both of these. They are each simple and work well. I did not label in French as I believe all of my Amel wires were done at the factory in La Rochelle.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

Trinidad

 

 

 

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:45 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Tracing wires on my Amel SM is a real nightmare.  Ten blue wires go into a conduit, 10 come out and not one has a label on either end.  You try tugging on the wire you are interested in, and you find the whole bundle is clamped together somewhere along the run, so they all move!  It seems the builders had such confidence in their work they couldn't imagine anyone ever needing to repair anything! Previous owners were no better.  Very little they did was labeled or documented either.

 

I learned (the hard way) a long time ago when working on boats to ALWAYS label ALL wires. If you do your own work, make the effort.  If you pay someone to do your wiring, make labeling a condition of the contract. If your boat is well labeled, you will pay less to have work done on it in the future!

 

Even if I am sure I will remember what a wire does, I have learned th at I will forget.  In the ideal world, every wire and every hose would be labeled in every compartment it is exposed in.  I wish I could say I do that all the time, but it is a goal!  Working on a wire that you labeled clearly and helpfully will give you a warm and happy feeling.

 

But how do you trace them in the first place? You get a "wire tracer/tone generator".  They range from US$25 to US$100 or more. Here is an example:  

  • Sperry Instruments ET64220 Tracker-Tracer.

Amazon carries a wide variety of these.  For most purposes on a boat, you can get by with an inexpensive one without a lot of the fancy network options.  You clip the tone generator to one end of the wire, which sends an electronic tone down the wire.  A handheld receiver makes the tone audible anywhere along the wire.  The clos er you are to the right wire, the louder the tone.  It's a great help.   Much better than tugging on one end and hoping to feel which wire wiggles on the other.  They don't work everywhere, all the time, but they make the job a whole lot easier.  I wish I had learned about these tools long before I did!


Now, once you trace a wire... label it--right now!!!!  Even if it is not the wire you are going to be working on that day. If you know what the wire does, you can put a descriptive label on it.  If you do not know what the wire is for, and you figure out where it goes, label each end with a number.  It will help the future you!

In fact, tracing wires and labeling them is a great rainy day project! And if you are looking for the best wire labels, I want to know if you find any better than these: 

  • < span id="productTitle" class="a-size-large">Hellermann Tyton RO514 Rite-On Self-Laminating Labels


Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
"Ships and men rot in port"
Highlands, NJ
http://fetchinketch.net

 

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wire tracing.

eric freedman
 

Bill,

Is the small black relay that is supposed be connected to the red light on your  DC panel 12 or 24 volts?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 1:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wire tracing.

 

 

Two other ways to label the wire are:

  1. A wire tie with a label built into it like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3MM-4MM-5MM-WHITE-NYLON-CABLE-TIES-ZIP-LABLE-TIES-FOR-FASTENING-CABLES-WIRES-/182176919372?var=&hash=item2a6a972f4c:m:msITU1dozImbHlQxDCEkWww
  2. Or use white shrink wrap on the ends of the wire, then write on the shrink wrap.

I have used both of these. They are each simple and work well. I did not label in French as I believe all of my Amel wires were done at the factory in La Rochelle.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

Trinidad

 

 

 

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:45 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Tracing wires on my Amel SM is a real nightmare.  Ten blue wires go into a conduit, 10 come out and not one has a label on either end.  You try tugging on the wire you are interested in, and you find the whole bundle is clamped together somewhere along the run, so they all move!  It seems the builders had such confidence in their work they couldn't imagine anyone ever needing to repair anything! Previous owners were no better.  Very little they did was labeled or documented either.

 

I learned (the hard way) a long time ago when working on boats to ALWAYS label ALL wires. If you do your own work, make the effort.  If you pay someone to do your wiring, make labeling a condition of the contract. If your boat is well labeled, you will pay less to have work done on it in the future!

 

Even if I am sure I will remember what a wire does, I have learned th at I will forget.  In the ideal world, every wire and every hose would be labeled in every compartment it is exposed in.  I wish I could say I do that all the time, but it is a goal!  Working on a wire that you labeled clearly and helpfully will give you a warm and happy feeling.

 

But how do you trace them in the first place? You get a "wire tracer/tone generator".  They range from US$25 to US$100 or more. Here is an example:  

  • Sperry Instruments ET64220 Tracker-Tracer.

Amazon carries a wide variety of these.  For most purposes on a boat, you can get by with an inexpensive one without a lot of the fancy network options.  You clip the tone generator to one end of the wire, which sends an electronic tone down the wire.  A handheld receiver makes the tone audible anywhere along the wire.  The clos er you are to the right wire, the louder the tone.  It's a great help.   Much better than tugging on one end and hoping to feel which wire wiggles on the other.  They don't work everywhere, all the time, but they make the job a whole lot easier.  I wish I had learned about these tools long before I did!


Now, once you trace a wire... label it--right now!!!!  Even if it is not the wire you are going to be working on that day. If you know what the wire does, you can put a descriptive label on it.  If you do not know what the wire is for, and you figure out where it goes, label each end with a number.  It will help the future you!

In fact, tracing wires and labeling them is a great rainy day project! And if you are looking for the best wire labels, I want to know if you find any better than these: 

  • < span id="productTitle" class="a-size-large">Hellermann Tyton RO514 Rite-On Self-Laminating Labels


Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
"Ships and men rot in port"
Highlands, NJ
http://fetchinketch.net

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head-Holding tank ball valve replacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

I had to laugh. I am laughing because all of the places that I have been in the world, my choices are limited to what is available. 

In Trinidad, and I believe the entire Caribbean there was only one choice with the correct size and the correct thread...it is not NPT, it is "European Thread" or BSPT (British Standard Pipe Thread). And, with the help of Gary Silver (SM Owner), I found a valve in only one store, Budget Marine. The Budget Marine part number is SUA/408-1-1/4t It is a BSPT Marine Brass valve.

Additionally, I am certainly no expert on these valves, but I will pass on two things that I have learned:
  1. If you do not use them once a week they will get stuck, and you may never unstick them
  2. You should grease them on each haulout. It is easy. With the valve closed insert the hose on your grease gun into the outlet. It will hit the valve in about 6". Squeeze some waterproof grease on the valve ball, then have someone open the valve and push in about another 1 1/4" and squeeze some more grease. Work the handle back and forth 10-20 times, then repeat the above one more time. 
  3. If you have to change one, it is not too difficult. It will take about 4 hours. Download this: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1980087538/lightbox/956971003?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/956971003

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387


On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:27 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


Both of mine need replacinng.  The forward head is frozen in place.

What is your opinion of the Marelon valves?

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wire tracing.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Two other ways to label the wire are:
  1. A wire tie with a label built into it like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3MM-4MM-5MM-WHITE-NYLON-CABLE-TIES-ZIP-LABLE-TIES-FOR-FASTENING-CABLES-WIRES-/182176919372?var=&hash=item2a6a972f4c:m:msITU1dozImbHlQxDCEkWww
  2. Or use white shrink wrap on the ends of the wire, then write on the shrink wrap.
I have used both of these. They are each simple and work well. I did not label in French as I believe all of my Amel wires were done at the factory in La Rochelle.

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad



On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:45 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Tracing wires on my Amel SM is a real nightmare.  Ten blue wires go into a conduit, 10 come out and not one has a label on either end.  You try tugging on the wire you are interested in, and you find the whole bundle is clamped together somewhere along the run, so they all move!  It seems the builders had such confidence in their work they couldn't imagine anyone ever needing to repair anything! Previous owners were no better.  Very little they did was labeled or documented either.


I learned (the hard way) a long time ago when working on boats to ALWAYS label ALL wires. If you do your own work, make the effort.  If you pay someone to do your wiring, make labeling a condition of the contract. If your boat is well labeled, you will pay less to have work done on it in the future!


Even if I am sure I will remember what a wire does, I have learned th at I will forget.  In the ideal world, every wire and every hose would be labeled in every compartment it is exposed in.  I wish I could say I do that all the time, but it is a goal!  Working on a wire that you labeled clearly and helpfully will give you a warm and happy feeling.


But how do you trace them in the first place? You get a "wire tracer/tone generator".  They range from US$25 to US$100 or more. Here is an example:  

  • Sperry Instruments ET64220 Tracker-Tracer.

Amazon carries a wide variety of these.  For most purposes on a boat, you can get by with an inexpensive one without a lot of the fancy network options.  You clip the tone generator to one end of the wire, which sends an electronic tone down the wire.  A handheld receiver makes the tone audible anywhere along the wire.  The clos er you are to the right wire, the louder the tone.  It's a great help.   Much better than tugging on one end and hoping to feel which wire wiggles on the other.  They don't work everywhere, all the time, but they make the job a whole lot easier.  I wish I had learned about these tools long before I did!


Now, once you trace a wire... label it--right now!!!!  Even if it is not the wire you are going to be working on that day. If you know what the wire does, you can put a descriptive label on it.  If you do not know what the wire is for, and you figure out where it goes, label each end with a number.  It will help the future you!

In fact, tracing wires and labeling them is a great rainy day project! And if you are looking for the best wire labels, I want to know if you find any better than these: 
  • < span id="productTitle" class="a-size-large">Hellermann Tyton RO514 Rite-On Self-Laminating Labels

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
"Ships and men rot in port"
Highlands, NJ
http://fetchinketch.net




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head-Holding tank ball valve replacement

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Marelon is the best way to go long term. I know it's not AMEL but still a good way. Second be sure you get the correct thread it is NOT standard American pipe. 

Regards
Capt Richard Piller

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:27, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,


Both of mine need replacinng.  The forward head is frozen in place.

What is your opinion of the Marelon valves?

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Wire tracing.

greatketch@...
 

Tracing wires on my Amel SM is a real nightmare.  Ten blue wires go into a conduit, 10 come out and not one has a label on either end.  You try tugging on the wire you are interested in, and you find the whole bundle is clamped together somewhere along the run, so they all move!  It seems the builders had such confidence in their work they couldn't imagine anyone ever needing to repair anything! Previous owners were no better.  Very little they did was labeled or documented either.


I learned (the hard way) a long time ago when working on boats to ALWAYS label ALL wires. If you do your own work, make the effort.  If you pay someone to do your wiring, make labeling a condition of the contract. If your boat is well labeled, you will pay less to have work done on it in the future!


Even if I am sure I will remember what a wire does, I have learned that I will forget.  In the ideal world, every wire and every hose would be labeled in every compartment it is exposed in.  I wish I could say I do that all the time, but it is a goal!  Working on a wire that you labeled clearly and helpfully will give you a warm and happy feeling.


But how do you trace them in the first place? You get a "wire tracer/tone generator".  They range from US$25 to US$100 or more. Here is an example:  

  • Sperry Instruments ET64220 Tracker-Tracer.

Amazon carries a wide variety of these.  For most purposes on a boat, you can get by with an inexpensive one without a lot of the fancy network options.  You clip the tone generator to one end of the wire, which sends an electronic tone down the wire.  A handheld receiver makes the tone audible anywhere along the wire.  The closer you are to the right wire, the louder the tone.  It's a great help.   Much better than tugging on one end and hoping to feel which wire wiggles on the other.  They don't work everywhere, all the time, but they make the job a whole lot easier.  I wish I had learned about these tools long before I did!


Now, once you trace a wire... label it--right now!!!!  Even if it is not the wire you are going to be working on that day. If you know what the wire does, you can put a descriptive label on it.  If you do not know what the wire is for, and you figure out where it goes, label each end with a number.  It will help the future you!

In fact, tracing wires and labeling them is a great rainy day project! And if you are looking for the best wire labels, I want to know if you find any better than these: 
  • Hellermann Tyton RO514 Rite-On Self-Laminating Labels

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
"Ships and men rot in port"
Highlands, NJ
http://fetchinketch.net



Re: Head-Holding tank ball valve replacement

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill,

Both of mine need replacinng.  The forward head is frozen in place.

What is your opinion of the Marelon valves?

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: BeBe Amel Super Maramu 2003 Model #387

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Bill and Judy
Thank you for giving so much to this community and to us personally too. You have set such a fine example and have certainly added a huge amount of value to the Amel Brand itself in our opinion. The company has been most fortunate to have a couple such as yourselves purchase one of their fine yachts as you have been such a strong advocate for a product that you trust and believe in. You will truly be missed but we do hope that January is not the last we hear from you within this community where you have honorary status in our humble opinion. Many people have actually purchased Amels thanks to your input and faith in the product, and a number of these persons will go on to purchase new models from the company in years to come. That can only be good for us all. Well done and thank you!
Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:01 PM, David Vogel dbv_au@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill & Judy,

Although we've not met, a huge vote of thanks for all the info and assistance you have offer to ourselves as we have been researching and prepping to enter the AMEL community as owners.  Your commitment, time, energy, enthusiasm for all things AMEL, a true devotee, is both awe-inspiring and more than a little bit intimidating.  Your contributions to the community can not be underestimated, and you will be sorely missed.

Leanne & I wish you all the very best as you enjoy your final days afloat, and then swallow the pick to move towards a new life ashore. 

With best regards,

David & Leanne Vogel





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent & Eric,

If you go to the Files section and search on "kit" you will get the following result:

3 results from files in amelyachtowners
  • karkauai Apr 1, 2015
  • Schematic and photos from Amel that show how to electrically isolate the Yanmar 4JH4HTE. It requires making your own new wiring harness, isolated ground switches and senders for oil...
    karkauai Jun 27, 2015
Note that they are named differently with a "_" added to the front of one file.

Bill
BeBe 387


 

 

 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

karkauai
 

Bill / Eric,
I posted it in the files section along with sim pics from Amel showing some of the connections.  The file is named Kit Isolation Yanmar.  I just noticed that the folder I created is empty, and that there are two files of the same name farther down the list.  Can anyone tell me how to delete one of the files and put the other one in the folder?

Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 25, 2016, at 6:52 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent, 

Did you see Eric's email regarding a relay on the engine, either the fan relay or the relay connected to the 24V alternator?

I am hoping that Amel sent you a wiring diagram with the isolated ground kit, and just maybe it shows this wiring diagram.

If so, can you scan it and post it in the Files section?

Bill
BeBe 387, but not for long
Trinidad

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:13 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,

Sorry to hear you are leaving BeBe,

It must be very traumatic..

 

UO few questions .

If the little cube relay a 24 or 12 volt relay.

To what are the wires connected?

 

Secondly have  you or anyone else  in the group followed the 2 red wires that come off the Valeo solenoid ?

One wire stops the engine and the other closes the Valeo Solenoid to connect the Battery negative to the engine block,

I have a problem with the wire that closes the ground circuit to connect it to the block. It is a real bear to trace the wire all the way to the engine panel.

 

I am getting annoyed trying to trace these wires and find the open in the circuit.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

-,

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:35 AM

To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

 

 

 

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:18 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

To what relay is this thread referring ?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners @yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 1:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

 

 

Yes, Ben. I have been emailing Neils directly with photos, but determined that it is an Amel installed standard 24VDC house battery alternator. Every SM 24VDC alternator I have seen has the optional 175 amp Leece Neville Alternator.

 

Regardless the relay is the same.

 

Sorry if I caused any confusion.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Neils 

I looked closely at picture you posted .  I have exactly same alternator.  No manufacturers' name is on  it.  just CE Label.  Check closely those small wire connections . 



Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347


On Jul 16, 2016, at 3:26 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Neils, 

yes the relay is related to the red lamp

maybe you have a faulty relay (unlikely), but its more likely to be the alternator itself and/or the alternator regulator.

I don't recognise that alternator, maybe someone else with a similar vintage boat can help.

Otherwise you need at least an auto-electrician, but preferably a marine electrician that understands  the Amel isolated ground system, to investigate it.

Good luck

Alan

Elyse SM437

 

 

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent, 

Did you see Eric's email regarding a relay on the engine, either the fan relay or the relay connected to the 24V alternator?

I am hoping that Amel sent you a wiring diagram with the isolated ground kit, and just maybe it shows this wiring diagram.

If so, can you scan it and post it in the Files section?

Bill
BeBe 387, but not for long
Trinidad

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:13 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,

Sorry to hear you are leaving BeBe,

It must be very traumatic..

 

UO few questions .

If the little cube relay a 24 or 12 volt relay.

To what are the wires connected?

 

Secondly have  you or anyone else  in the group followed the 2 red wires that come off the Valeo solenoid ?

One wire stops the engine and the other closes the Valeo Solenoid to connect the Battery negative to the engine block,

I have a problem with the wire that closes the ground circuit to connect it to the block. It is a real bear to trace the wire all the way to the engine panel.

 

I am getting annoyed trying to trace these wires and find the open in the circuit.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

-,

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:35 AM

To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

 

 

 

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:18 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

To what relay is this thread referring ?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners @yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 1:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

 

 

Yes, Ben. I have been emailing Neils directly with photos, but determined that it is an Amel installed standard 24VDC house battery alternator. Every SM 24VDC alternator I have seen has the optional 175 amp Leece Neville Alternator.

 

Regardless the relay is the same.

 

Sorry if I caused any confusion.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Neils 

I looked closely at picture you posted .  I have exactly same alternator.  No manufacturers' name is on  it.  just CE Label.  Check closely those small wire connections . 



Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347


On Jul 16, 2016, at 3:26 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Neils, 

yes the relay is related to the red lamp

maybe you have a faulty relay (unlikely), but its more likely to be the alternator itself and/or the alternator regulator.

I don't recognise that alternator, maybe someone else with a similar vintage boat can help.

Otherwise you need at least an auto-electrician, but preferably a marine electrician that understands  the Amel isolated ground system, to investigate it.

Good luck

Alan

Elyse SM437

 

 

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red Light on 24 volt panel

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Pat,

A friend had a lightning strike that reset the electronic hour meter to zero on both engines. 

That light is controlled by a relay for the alternator on the engine, which is activated by the start sequence when you turn the key. Possibly you have another victim of the strike...either the relay (most likely) or the alternator, or even possibly the start circuit on the engine panel.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Pat sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,
Same light just different location. The key is off, engine is off, however the light is still on.

Boat will be hauled tomorrow to check the hull, and then put in a slip for work to begin from the lightning strike near the boat. 

Pat
Shenanigans #123
Anchored tonight in Annapolis



On Jul 24, 2016, at 9:42 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Pat,

I don't have one there. Maybe it is the same red light on the lower left of the 24 volt panel on a Super Maramu 2000. If so, it is a warning light that reports that the house bank alternator is not charging.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jul 24, 2016 8:12 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

What does the red light mean in the upper left hand corner on the 24 volt panel on a Super Maramu.

Thanks,
Pat McAneny
Shenanigans #123

















Re: BeBe Amel Super Maramu 2003 Model #387

SV Perigee
 

Hi Bill & Judy,

Although we've not met, a huge vote of thanks for all the info and assistance you have offer to ourselves as we have been researching and prepping to enter the AMEL community as owners.  Your commitment, time, energy, enthusiasm for all things AMEL, a true devotee, is both awe-inspiring and more than a little bit intimidating.  Your contributions to the community can not be underestimated, and you will be sorely missed.

Leanne & I wish you all the very best as you enjoy your final days afloat, and then swallow the pick to move towards a new life ashore. 

With best regards,

David & Leanne Vogel


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: BeBe Amel Super Maramu 2003 Model #387

Bob Grey
 

Bill and Judy, I've been part of this forum for two years and appreciate  your depth of knowledge and the information in your emails.

You will be missed

Good luck with the next stage of your travels.

Bob Grey
Renaissance III

On Monday, July 25, 2016, 19:10, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Dear Bill & Judy

Good luck with the next chapter in your lives and many thanks for your continuous help and support through this forum. It has been invaluable for us throughout the last 4 years that we have had our SM.

All the best

Andrew & Kate
Ronpische 
SM 472
Mallorca


On 24 Jul 2016, at 10:21, eljaroellinghoff@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Judi and Bill cogatulatiob to end your circumnavigation. 

Thank you for your knowledge In the Forum, and I,hope  you share it for a long time

Elja 
SY Baloo SM 222

Messolonghi-Greece


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: BeBe Amel Super Maramu 2003 Model #387

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Dear Bill & Judy

Good luck with the next chapter in your lives and many thanks for your continuous help and support through this forum. It has been invaluable for us throughout the last 4 years that we have had our SM.

All the best

Andrew & Kate
Ronpische 
SM 472
Mallorca


On 24 Jul 2016, at 10:21, eljaroellinghoff@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Judi and Bill cogatulatiob to end your circumnavigation. 

Thank you for your knowledge In the Forum, and I,hope  you share it for a long time

Elja 
SY Baloo SM 222

Messolonghi-Greece


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator membrane Alternative

seagasm
 

Thank you Bill.

Kind Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Re: Dessalator membrane Alternative

seagasm
 

Thank you for your reply to my post, I do appreciate it.

Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red Light on 24 volt panel

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill,
Same light just different location. The key is off, engine is off, however the light is still on.

Boat will be hauled tomorrow to check the hull, and then put in a slip for work to begin from the lightning strike near the boat. 

Pat
Shenanigans #123
Anchored tonight in Annapolis



On Jul 24, 2016, at 9:42 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Pat,

I don't have one there. Maybe it is the same red light on the lower left of the 24 volt panel on a Super Maramu 2000. If so, it is a warning light that reports that the house bank alternator is not charging.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jul 24, 2016 8:12 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

What does the red light mean in the upper left hand corner on the 24 volt panel on a Super Maramu.

Thanks,
Pat McAneny
Shenanigans #123
















Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

Sorry to hear you are leaving BeBe,

It must be very traumatic..

 

UO few questions .

If the little cube relay a 24 or 12 volt relay.

To what are the wires connected?

 

Secondly have  you or anyone else  in the group followed the 2 red wires that come off the Valeo solenoid ?

One wire stops the engine and the other closes the Valeo Solenoid to connect the Battery negative to the engine block,

I have a problem with the wire that closes the ground circuit to connect it to the block. It is a real bear to trace the wire all the way to the engine panel.

 

I am getting annoyed trying to trace these wires and find the open in the circuit.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

-,

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

 

 

 

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:18 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

To what relay is this thread referring ?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners @yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 1:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

 

 

Yes, Ben. I have been emailing Neils directly with photos, but determined that it is an Amel installed standard 24VDC house battery alternator. Every SM 24VDC alternator I have seen has the optional 175 amp Leece Neville Alternator.

 

Regardless the relay is the same.

 

Sorry if I caused any confusion.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Neils 

I looked closely at picture you posted .  I have exactly same alternator.  No manufacturers' name is on  it.  just CE Label.  Check closely those small wire connections . 



Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347


On Jul 16, 2016, at 3:26 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Neils, 

yes the relay is related to the red lamp

maybe you have a faulty relay (unlikely), but its more likely to be the alternator itself and/or the alternator regulator.

I don't recognise that alternator, maybe someone else with a similar vintage boat can help.

Otherwise you need at least an auto-electrician, but preferably a marine electrician that understands  the Amel isolated ground system, to investigate it.

Good luck

Alan

Elyse SM437

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red Light on 24 volt panel

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Pat,

I don't have one there. Maybe it is the same red light on the lower left of the 24 volt panel on a Super Maramu 2000. If so, it is a warning light that reports that the house bank alternator is not charging.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jul 24, 2016 8:12 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

What does the red light mean in the upper left hand corner on the 24 volt panel on a Super Maramu.

Thanks,
Pat McAneny
Shenanigans #123