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Re: Waterleak

 

Jose,

With the SM, at least 95% of the time, seawater in the area of the depth transducer and watertight bulkhead is seawater that has leaked past the bow thruster seals, as little as one drop at a time. These drops of seawater run along the inside of the hull and downhill until they accumulate in this area. All other areas will be dry. Sometimes in rough conditions seawater collected in this area can be thrown to small pockets under the shower pan, where they will stay until the right rough conditions will allow the water to escape. When it does, it accumulates in the same spot between the Depth transducer and the watertight bulkhead.

In rough seas with the bow moving up and down, there is a tremendous amount of pressure on the bow thruster shaft seals. In rough conditions, this pressure can cause minimal seepage of seawater past the foam and lip seals. The best thing to do to minimize this is to change the seals every two years and to be sure to use the safety pin which should compress the 2 bow thruster outside seals causing a very good seal. Some of the last SMs and all amels made after the SM have a seawater capture system that captures this seawater and drains it into the gray water tank.

I recommend monitoring the area between the Depth Transducer and the watertight bulkhead using a simple battery-powered water alarm.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:21 PM JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:
Same problem here! Any suggestion?

Cheers

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: Waterleak

JOSE PRIETO
 

Same problem here! Any suggestion?

Cheers

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.

Martin Birkhoff
 

Thanks  for your welcome, Ruedi and Sabina

Since some two month we are staying in Cherbourg, France.
We plan to sail to La Rochelle with the next suitable wheather window to get our problems fixed. Repairs will need some weeks. Hopefully we are able to continue to Portugal in February  

Martin

SY Mago del Sur - 54/40


Re: Water ingress

JOSE PRIETO
 

I have the same problem! Somebody can help?

Cheers

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: A54 bow thruster seal replacement?

 

Only 1 lip seal. And some 54s have had a total of 3 foam seals (2 outside and 1 inside). I am not sure which is correct. On at least one occasion SAV shipped a 54 owner 3 foam seals. When I have been involved, I use the same number of foam seals outside that were on the bow thruster when we started. Most of the time it was 1 outside and 1 inside. This confusion might be because the SM takes 2 foam seals outside and 1 foam seal inside.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:31 PM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
We finally got it out. The Amel diagram shows two foam seals and two lip seals. We found the two foam seals but only one lip seal.

Did you all find one lip seal or two? 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Port side Front Navigation Light unreliable

sherman.gifford
 

Greetings - both my bow lights were powered through the stbd side - had to replace the port fixture since it had not been properly sealed at some point - so I would not be surprised they are in series like that and may have corroded.  The new LED fixture works great.  Good luck!  
Sherman 
BREVIS SM291



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Michael & Robyn <SY_RIPPLE@...>
Date: 12/19/20 10:22 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Port side Front Navigation Light unreliable

Greetings!
Our port side navigation light has been unreliable since years. We switched to LED two month ago. It worked fine while in port. It soon failed underway and after arrival in Antigua it still doesn't work.
In the port side bow locker I see two cables going in the bottom of the stanchion. Only one cable comes out to the navigation light.
Did AMEL splice the cable together in a Y shape in the stanchion such that the second cable would feed the starboard navigation light?
I assume the one cable comes in from the 24 V panel switch. One cable goes over to starboard and the splice feeds the port side light? Has anyone reworked this setup already?
I still have to climb into the starboard locker to follow the second cable.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417
currently in Jolly Harbour Antigua


Port side Front Navigation Light unreliable

Michael & Robyn
 

Greetings!
Our port side navigation light has been unreliable since years. We switched to LED two month ago. It worked fine while in port. It soon failed underway and after arrival in Antigua it still doesn't work.
In the port side bow locker I see two cables going in the bottom of the stanchion. Only one cable comes out to the navigation light.
Did AMEL splice the cable together in a Y shape in the stanchion such that the second cable would feed the starboard navigation light?
I assume the one cable comes in from the 24 V panel switch. One cable goes over to starboard and the splice feeds the port side light? Has anyone reworked this setup already?
I still have to climb into the starboard locker to follow the second cable.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417
currently in Jolly Harbour Antigua


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

eric freedman
 

Tom,

I changed mine to a top loading refrigerator, It is great as when you open the lid the cold air does not fall out like the front loading refrig.

The drinks stay very cold if you wish.

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas Kleman
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM2K dishwasher space

 

Thanks for all these great ideas. We settled on the Blue Sea Systems Marine meth lab, in african mahogany. A drop in solution, and with the blue tooth feature I can cook from a safe distance via my phone.

In all seriousness, we are full time live-aboards passing time in Hawaii until we can return to FP. Since we have US mail service and access to Amazon and Defender (plus nowhere to sail to), many projects that were far down the list are being examined......and lots of kilo-dollars disappearing.

I'm leaning towards some kind of tasteful wine storage, but not ready to pull the trigger quite yet.

Tom and Kirstin

SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii


Re: A54 bow thruster seal replacement?

Scott SV Tengah
 

We finally got it out. The Amel diagram shows two foam seals and two lip seals. We found the two foam seals but only one lip seal.

Did you all find one lip seal or two? 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Thomas Kleman
 

Thanks for all these great ideas. We settled on the Blue Sea Systems Marine meth lab, in african mahogany. A drop in solution, and with the blue tooth feature I can cook from a safe distance via my phone.

In all seriousness, we are full time live-aboards passing time in Hawaii until we can return to FP. Since we have US mail service and access to Amazon and Defender (plus nowhere to sail to), many projects that were far down the list are being examined......and lots of kilo-dollars disappearing.

I'm leaning towards some kind of tasteful wine storage, but not ready to pull the trigger quite yet.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii


Damaged c-drive female bearing

Larry Salibra
 

Hello everyone! 

Long time lurker and new caretaker of 1995 Super Maramu #140 "Sula," taking over from Graham after his 15 years of excellent stewardship.

I've got Sula on the hard for anti-fouling and regular maintenance and in the process of replacing the C-drive wear bushing and seals, I had a lot of trouble removing the seals - they hadn't been changed since 2013. I tried both the screws and slide hammer method recommended by Bill Rouse and the Amel-recommended flat screw driver method without success over a period of a couple hours. A new boat owner in desperation, I hired one of the boatyard's mechanics to assist me in removing the seals and in the 90 minute process of trying to remove the seals, he scraped the inside of the in situ female bearing (the brass cavity the wear bushing fits into). I've attached a photo with the damage circled in red.

Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, how did you repair it? 

Thanks!

Larry
SM140 Sula
Hong Kong

Has anyone else had


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Steve Bell
 

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Jeff Williams wrote:
Hi All,
Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Jeff
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii

 

 


 On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Jeff Williams wrote:
Hi All,
Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Jeff
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii

 

 


 On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Jeff Williams wrote:
Hi All,
Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Jeff
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii

 

 


 Hi Jeff. Just for your info SM 377 & SM 378 (Dusk) are also in Scicly (Licata).

regards


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Alan Leslie
 

When we bought Elyse in 2013, I didn't think I'd ever use it, but I do !
With just two on the boat it doesn't seem justified, but with 4 I have used it a lot.
With just two on the boat, we wash dishes by hand and put them in the dishwasher to drip dry.
This works really well at sea.
After a couple of weeks we run it to drain the water out of it.
Brilliant !
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Welcome Anke and Martin, welcome on aboard to this great group,

 

I’m sure you will enjoy and appreciate your new Amel, as much as we do.

We are cruising with our 54 in the Med and we winterize in Spain right now. We had the plan to cross the Atlantic this winter, but the virus delayed our plan. We started our cruising-live 5 years ago in New Zealand and spend some time in the Pacific and Asian waters. We are dreaming to go back to the Pacific after spending some time in the Med last 2 years.  Our plan is to leave the Med end of 2021 for Caribean, same as you. Maybe we will meet somewhere coming year. Where are you based right now? 

 

Wishing you fair winds with Mago del Sur.

 

Ruedi & Sabina Waldispuehl-Trazza

SY WASABI

A54#55

MMSI: 269322000  

Call Sign: HBY3811


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

That sounds good Dimitris, Had it still been in place when we bought Ocean Pearl we may have discovered its value. However I dont think I will change back.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 18 December 2020 at 22:08 Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:

The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman < lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii


 


 


Santorini 12v panel miniature bulbs

Ian Park
 

Can anyone tell me the type of bulb used for the fridge/bilge/fridge breakers?
Thanks
Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96 wintering North Wales


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Jose Venegas
 

We kept the dishwasher intact but removed and saved all internal parts and installed a bred maker which we have greatly enjoyed, particularly when crossing the Atlantic

José
Ipanema SM 2k 277
Santa Marta


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

amelforme
 

Hi Jeff and congratulations on your acquisition. Unfortunately, the early boats that had the front opening dishwasher, it is no longer available and is not supported for spare parts.  Same thing with the later top opening version. The “brain’ on the top opening version seems to be particularly vulnerable. Any electrical/computer engineers out there who could reverse engineer one? I am told it is a very simple device.

 

Tom and Kirstin on L’Orient, I could tell by the petulant look on Tom’s face when I showed him how to operate the dishwasher that likely this would be the only time it would be used. If you do convert this space to storage, refridgeration, icemaker or ???, could you operate it one more time to prove that the brain is functioning and then save the brain for me so I can get it reverse engineered?

 

If you repurpose this area thoughtfully and to Amel quality standards, it will not adversely affect your resale value. I used and appreciated the dishwasher on both of the Super Maramus I was fortunate to own and enjoy. Got the water up to 180F and used less of it than hand washing while being whisper quiet while doing so. That said, about 1/3 of the boats I resell, the owners indicate that

the dishwasher was not used much if ever.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 4:40 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM2K dishwasher space

 

Hi All,

Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Jeff

Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

 

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:

The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 



On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

 

~~~️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27


On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin

SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Jeff Williams
 

Hi All,
Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jeff
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii


Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii

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