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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] water leakage from saloon ac

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] water leakage from saloon ac

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jeff,

I believe that possibly your salon Climma Compact has been modified because of a failure with the original condensate pan (the one surrounding the evaporator).

I will admit that there are many variations of the Climma Compact and I am certainly not familiar with all of them. Think about it. If the condensate pan was designed to drain into the outer stainless pan, there is no need for the condensate pan. 

In an earlier email, I mentioned that there are ways to repair this common Climma Compact issue that I don't recommend. One is to do what someone may have done to yours. That is to change the original design, removing the condensate pan drain tube and affixing an exit hose fitting to the stainless steel pan to which the hose is connected. 

Check your other Climma units. If they are all like your salon unit, I am wrong. If they are different, refer to my earlier email. And, BTW, over the years, the condensate pan was changed several times (that I know of) by Climma. The part number I gave you may not be correct for your unit. 

Good luck. 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
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+1(832) 380-4970

On Mar 5, 2017 12:10, "JEFFREY KRAUS jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,
I believe that the plastic condensation pan you describe is stainless on my unit.
There seems to be 2 pans, or reservoirs both stainless. One surrounding the combination of the heating element and cooling element. And another, which contains the whole unit. I believe, from inspection of the observed water ring (ring around the collar), that the water passes from the inner reservoir to the outer. There is only an exit fitting on the outside stainless pan, which is connected to the hose I referred to, which is connected to the grey water line. Water collection in the inner pan will ultimately cause disintegration of the elements and one of the refrigerant lines. At least I've eliminated the pooling of water with the hose shim, and the pans are now bone dry.
I already inspected the hose, and found a small cut (probably a r esult of someone over-tightening the hose clamp). I cut the hose back 3/4" and tightened it.
Unfortunately, I'm not aboard, and won't return till month's end.
I had to trim the bottom inside edge of the base of the love seat to be able to slide the unit out enough to access the back and get at the hose and hose connection.
Not sure if the unit can be removed for inspection without disconnecting certain components of the unit itself.
Thanks for your input. Always appreciated.

Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14


On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 12:18 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Jeff,

The Climma Compact condensation drain that you and SM2k's have are somewhat of a mystery until you examine the unit very closely.

There is a plastic condensate pan surrounding the evaporator, with a plastic drain pipe connected to this plastic pan. The pipe runs through the side of the stainless steel pan to the drain hose. There should be no noticeable condensation outside of the plastic pan. What you describe is condensation in the stainless steel pan.

If the plastic pan is cracked it will leak into the stainless steel pan, and that water will leak through the same opening that the plastic pipe exits the stainless steel pan.

I am 99% sure that your plastic pan is cracked. This part will have to be special ordered from Coastal Climate Control, or you will need to find and epoxy the crack in the plastic pan. The other 1% chance is that the leak is at the hose jnction to the pipe.

If you have the same Climma Compact Model 9 as the SM2k, the part number of the pan is M60701 and you should email info"at"coastalclimatecontrol.com

BTW, while we are discussing this, be sure to check that the drain hose is not clogged and freely drains to the gray water bilge. One way is to blow into the end of the hose. I unclogged one of these hoses by using a dinghy inflation pump.

There are a few other alternatives to replace/repair, but I do not recommend them. Let me know if you need more information.

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe
Galveston Island

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:55 AM, jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Good Morning Amelians,

Only recently have I needed to run my ac due to extended time in a cooler latitude.

I discovered clear water in the compartment below the saloon ac unit, It was not salt water, indicating to me it must have been a product of the condensation process, When I opened up the compartment and exposed the unit, one thing stood out quickly. The stainless tray that the unit sat within showed a water level of about 3/4 to 1" of water. You could see that this was a level that had been achieved regularly, due to residue like a "ring around the collar." There was some significant scaling material on the base between the heating and cooling element also. I cleared that stuff out, removed the hose leading to the tray drain at the back of the unit, and cleared the hose, and it's entrance point into the bilge drainage line. The line was clear now for sure.

When I re-positioned the unit , another thing stood out. The drain hose leading into the tray drain connection, in coming up from the compartment below the unit and making a 90 degree turn to connect to the tray drain connection in the back of the unit, had a natural loop that positioned the hose ABOVE the drain fitting. It is only about (guessing) 14" from the hole to the tray fitting, and the heavy hose has a natural loop once connected. This didn't allow water to drain out the fitting into the hose. The hose was above the fitting. I cut a shim out of a piece of wood, cut a notch that would fit over the hose, and wedged the piece between the flat wood above  where the hose came up from the compartment below (perpendicular to the opening) and pinned the hose flat against the wood base that the unit sat on. This allowed enough loop for the hose to come up from the compartment below, yet not kink, and still pinned the hose low enough to keep it below the drain fitting, so th e water could drain and not collect in the tray. 

I ran the unit, and checked it the following morning (allowing for the unit to defrost, and drain completely).

There was zero water in the tray. There was, however, still some fresh water collected in the compartment, although it was about half or less of what I had previously.

Seeing as this was done the last day aboard, and I had to remove all my faucets before I departed, I had no time to investigate the continued collected water.

A couple Things. I recall this as a problem previously that I didn't have a chance to address.

I'm somewhat skeptical I have a leaky hose, although I'll check that.

It would be a PITA to pull the unit out to see if there is a hole in the tray allowing water to leak from it causing the water accumulation

I'm curious to know if any other 54 owners have encountered this problem. The drainage issue would be unique to their vessel.

Any other thoughts on where the water may be coming from?


Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14

 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] water leakage from saloon ac

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Porter,

Thanks for your message.

Here is the copy of the MRI report.
Therefore, like everything else in the Caribbean, how to be sure that the “local” person (in Tortola) did an accurate reading…

The pain medication is definitely too mild, the pain wakes me up at night then can not sleep.
-1 x Diclofenac Sodium 75 mg every 12 hours
-1 x Baclofen 10 mg every 8 hours
-1 x Tramadol hydrocholide 50 mg every 6 hours
-2 x Paracetamol 500 mg every 6 hours

A friend send me information from a medical web site called “up to date” and it seems all the treatments say “evidence of effectiveness are lacking” or “quality of evidence considered low”…

“local” doctors say it will resolved itself within 2 weeks (somehow I doubt)…
Would love to hear your feedback.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 3/5/17, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 5, 2017, 7:07 AM


 









Alexandre,I'd be happy to
talk to you. Anytime. This is what I do. Up until May
25th! Let
me know if you'd like to chat. Porter
McRoberts
Www.internationalhouseofpain.com
On Mar 5,
2017, at 7:53 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Good morning Eric,



Thanks so much for your message.

I actually posted by mistake this on the forum...



I am quite upset with the local doctor, that prescribe too
mild medication, the pain constantly wakes me up at night…


Anyway, I don’t know when I will arrive in St Martin,
being solo and in pain, I have to be more cautious than
usual.

It is possible that I leave on the 11 and arrive on the 12,
but not sure as I could wait for better weather too…



As always thanks so much…

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/4/17, kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, March 4, 2017, 7:29 PM





 



















Hi Alexandre,

If you get to SXM before the 13th.

I have some stuff in my kit that will help.

I am also VERY friendly with a local pharmacist who

knows everyone on the Dutch side.

Good Luck,

Eric

 

Eric



----- Original

Message -----

From: "Alexandre

Uster von

Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]"


Date: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:11 pm

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back

Problems

To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



> Good morning Kent,

> I

had a friend who had 3 surgeries and still back pain…

> Well Saturday night, had back pain again,

this time it was

> intolerable and my

left leg was numb.

> In the morning went

to a clinique, the doctor gave an injection

> of Voltaren, no effect. Later she gave an

injection of

> steroids, no effect.

> She sent me to the emergency room who gave

me another injection:

> no effect, then

an injection of Morphine, still no effect.

> Neither they or I could believe it… They

said they couldn’t

> inject anything

else in fear I would overdose.

> I saw a

doctor (who was smelling booze 1/2 meter away) who said

> he did not want me on medication to see

the full effect in the

> morning, then

to have an MRI… so couldn’t sleep all night.

> In the morning surprisingly they gave me

medication, the doctor

> did not come…

just as I was going to sleep, my neighbor put his

> TV loud and was singing rap music…

> Administration came and said it was $1170

per day plus

> medication, X Ray, etc. I

said this is crazy.

> I was supposed to

have the MRI in the afternoon, somehow did not

> happened, I was getting pretty upset, my

blood pressure reach

> 160/100 in the

evening.

> Received medication, slept

ok, again delay for the MRI, I told a

>

nice doctor, I will leave today, as I can’t keep
paying

$1170

> per day for waiting, he said I

misunderstood the price, that

> this was

for everything, he called administration who came and

> said, since I am not a “local”, this

is the price for “Visitors”

>

(tourist). The doctor was stunned.

> Had

MRI, the tech person (unofficially) show me a disc
pointing



> out which causes the numb leg and the

pain.

> The Hospital wanted me to stay

one more day for the doctor MRI’s

>

reading, I said NO, we argue for 2 hours, then I was able
to



> discharged myself against medical

advice. The nice doctor

> prescribe me

medication.

> Was presented a bill of

over $4000. I refused to pay the day I

>

was waiting for the MRI.

> On the bill

they even charge $0.50 for the little cup in which

> they bring the medication ?!? crazy.

> I told them if they had told me the price,

I would have decline

> and take a plane

for St martin.

> We settle, I left in

pain as the medication was wearing off.

> I have a bag of medication that should

help me up to 2 weeks.

> I am looking at

the first weather opportunity to go to St

> Martin.

>

> Since I am hanging myself (upside down)

from the mast hoping

> this will

elongate the spine and easy the problem…

> I started to stretch last week (before the

pain in the leg) will

> resume as soon

as I feel better.

> How is everything

else? Any chance for your eye? How about the

> family problems?

>

Alexandre

>

>

>

>

--------------------------------------------

> On Fri, 3/3/17, Kent Robertson

karkauai@yahoo.com


> [amelyachtowners]

wrote:

>

> Subject:

[Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

> To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

> Date:

Friday, March 3, 2017, 10:14 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Alex.  Sorry to

hear about your back

> issues.  I've

had 4 spine surgeries over the last 40

>

years.  After the last one, I started doing "back

> yoga", just gentle stretching and

core strengthening,

> no pretzel stuff.

 It's been like a miracle for

>

me.Best of

> luck!

>

KentKristy SM243

>

>



>

>

>

>

>
























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] water leakage from saloon ac

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jeff,

The Climma Compact condensation drain that you and SM2k's have are somewhat of a mystery until you examine the unit very closely.

There is a plastic condensate pan surrounding the evaporator, with a plastic drain pipe connected to this plastic pan. The pipe runs through the side of the stainless steel pan to the drain hose. There should be no noticeable condensation outside of the plastic pan. What you describe is condensation in the stainless steel pan.

If the plastic pan is cracked it will leak into the stainless steel pan, and that water will leak through the same opening that the plastic pipe exits the stainless steel pan.

I am 99% sure that your plastic pan is cracked. This part will have to be special ordered from Coastal Climate Control, or you will need to find and epoxy the crack in the plastic pan. The other 1% chance is that the leak is at the hose jnction to the pipe.

If you have the same Climma Compact Model 9 as the SM2k, the part number of the pan is M60701 and you should email info"at"coastalclimatecontrol.com

BTW, while we are discussing this, be sure to check that the drain hose is not clogged and freely drains to the gray water bilge. One way is to blow into the end of the hose. I unclogged one of these hoses by using a dinghy inflation pump.

There are a few other alternatives to replace/repair, but I do not recommend them. Let me know if you need more information.

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe
Galveston Island

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:55 AM, jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good Morning Amelians,

Only recently have I needed to run my ac due to extended time in a cooler latitude.

I discovered clear water in the compartment below the saloon ac unit, It was not salt water, indicating to me it must have been a product of the condensation process, When I opened up the compartment and exposed the unit, one thing stood out quickly. The stainless tray that the unit sat within showed a water level of about 3/4 to 1" of water. You could see that this was a level that had been achieved regularly, due to residue like a "ring around the collar." There was some significant scaling material on the base between the heating and cooling element also. I cleared that stuff out, removed the hose leading to the tray drain at the back of the unit, and cleared the hose, and it's entrance point into the bilge drainage line. The line was clear now for sure.

When I re-positioned the unit , another thing stood out. The drain hose leading into the tray drain connection, in coming up from the compartment below the unit and making a 90 degree turn to connect to the tray drain connection in the back of the unit, had a natural loop that positioned the hose ABOVE the drain fitting. It is only about (guessing) 14" from the hole to the tray fitting, and the heavy hose has a natural loop once connected. This didn't allow water to drain out the fitting into the hose. The hose was above the fitting. I cut a shim out of a piece of wood, cut a notch that would fit over the hose, and wedged the piece between the flat wood above  where the hose came up from the compartment below (perpendicular to the opening) and pinned the hose flat against the wood base that the unit sat on. This allowed enough loop for the hose to come up from the compartment below, yet not kink, and still pinned the hose low enough to keep it below the drain fitting, so th e water could drain and not collect in the tray. 

I ran the unit, and checked it the following morning (allowing for the unit to defrost, and drain completely).

There was zero water in the tray. There was, however, still some fresh water collected in the compartment, although it was about half or less of what I had previously.

Seeing as this was done the last day aboard, and I had to remove all my faucets before I departed, I had no time to investigate the continued collected water.

A couple Things. I recall this as a problem previously that I didn't have a chance to address.

I'm somewhat skeptical I have a leaky hose, although I'll check that.

It would be a PITA to pull the unit out to see if there is a hole in the tray allowing water to leak from it causing the water accumulation

I'm curious to know if any other 54 owners have encountered this problem. The drainage issue would be unique to their vessel.

Any other thoughts on where the water may be coming from?


Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14

 




water leakage from saloon ac

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Good Morning Amelians,

Only recently have I needed to run my ac due to extended time in a cooler latitude.

I discovered clear water in the compartment below the saloon ac unit, It was not salt water, indicating to me it must have been a product of the condensation process, When I opened up the compartment and exposed the unit, one thing stood out quickly. The stainless tray that the unit sat within showed a water level of about 3/4 to 1" of water. You could see that this was a level that had been achieved regularly, due to residue like a "ring around the collar." There was some significant scaling material on the base between the heating and cooling element also. I cleared that stuff out, removed the hose leading to the tray drain at the back of the unit, and cleared the hose, and it's entrance point into the bilge drainage line. The line was clear now for sure.

When I re-positioned the unit, another thing stood out. The drain hose leading into the tray drain connection, in coming up from the compartment below the unit and making a 90 degree turn to connect to the tray drain connection in the back of the unit, had a natural loop that positioned the hose ABOVE the drain fitting. It is only about (guessing) 14" from the hole to the tray fitting, and the heavy hose has a natural loop once connected. This didn't allow water to drain out the fitting into the hose. The hose was above the fitting. I cut a shim out of a piece of wood, cut a notch that would fit over the hose, and wedged the piece between the flat wood above  where the hose came up from the compartment below (perpendicular to the opening) and pinned the hose flat against the wood base that the unit sat on. This allowed enough loop for the hose to come up from the compartment below, yet not kink, and still pinned the hose low enough to keep it below the drain fitting, so the water could drain and not collect in the tray. 

I ran the unit, and checked it the following morning (allowing for the unit to defrost, and drain completely).

There was zero water in the tray. There was, however, still some fresh water collected in the compartment, although it was about half or less of what I had previously.

Seeing as this was done the last day aboard, and I had to remove all my faucets before I departed, I had no time to investigate the continued collected water.

A couple Things. I recall this as a problem previously that I didn't have a chance to address.

I'm somewhat skeptical I have a leaky hose, although I'll check that.

It would be a PITA to pull the unit out to see if there is a hole in the tray allowing water to leak from it causing the water accumulation

I'm curious to know if any other 54 owners have encountered this problem. The drainage issue would be unique to their vessel.

Any other thoughts on where the water may be coming from?


Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

Porter McRoberts <portermcroberts@...>
 

Alexandre,
I'd be happy to talk to you. Anytime. This is what I do. Up until May 25th! 
Let me know if you'd like to chat. 
Porter McRoberts




On Mar 5, 2017, at 7:53 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Eric,

Thanks so much for your message.
I actually posted by mistake this on the forum...

I am quite upset with the local doctor, that prescribe too mild medication, the pain constantly wakes me up at night…
Anyway, I don’t know when I will arrive in St Martin, being solo and in pain, I have to be more cautious than usual.
It is possible that I leave on the 11 and arrive on the 12, but not sure as I could wait for better weather too…

As always thanks so much…
Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 3/4/17, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, March 4, 2017, 7:29 PM


 









Hi Alexandre,
If you get to SXM before the 13th.
I have some stuff in my kit that will help.
I am also VERY friendly with a local pharmacist who
knows everyone on the Dutch side.
Good Luck,
Eric
 
Eric

----- Original
Message -----
From: "Alexandre
Uster von
Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back
Problems
To:
amelyachtowners@...

> Good morning Kent,
> I
had a friend who had 3 surgeries and still back pain…
> Well Saturday night, had back pain again,
this time it was
> intolerable and my
left leg was numb.
> In the morning went
to a clinique, the doctor gave an injection
> of Voltaren, no effect. Later she gave an
injection of
> steroids, no effect.
> She sent me to the emergency room who gave
me another injection:
> no effect, then
an injection of Morphine, still no effect.
> Neither they or I could believe it… They
said they couldn’t
> inject anything
else in fear I would overdose.
> I saw a
doctor (who was smelling booze 1/2 meter away) who said
> he did not want me on medication to see
the full effect in the
> morning, then
to have an MRI… so couldn’t sleep all night.
> In the morning surprisingly they gave me
medication, the doctor
> did not come…
just as I was going to sleep, my neighbor put his
> TV loud and was singing rap music…
> Administration came and said it was $1170
per day plus
> medication, X Ray, etc. I
said this is crazy.
> I was supposed to
have the MRI in the afternoon, somehow did not
> happened, I was getting pretty upset, my
blood pressure reach
> 160/100 in the
evening.
> Received medication, slept
ok, again delay for the MRI, I told a
>
nice doctor, I will leave today, as I can’t keep paying
$1170
> per day for waiting, he said I
misunderstood the price, that
> this was
for everything, he called administration who came and
> said, since I am not a “local”, this
is the price for “Visitors”
>
(tourist). The doctor was stunned.
> Had
MRI, the tech person (unofficially) show me a disc pointing

> out which causes the numb leg and the
pain.
> The Hospital wanted me to stay
one more day for the doctor MRI’s
>
reading, I said NO, we argue for 2 hours, then I was able to

> discharged myself against medical
advice. The nice doctor
> prescribe me
medication.
> Was presented a bill of
over $4000. I refused to pay the day I
>
was waiting for the MRI.
> On the bill
they even charge $0.50 for the little cup in which
> they bring the medication ?!? crazy.
> I told them if they had told me the price,
I would have decline
> and take a plane
for St martin.
> We settle, I left in
pain as the medication was wearing off.
> I have a bag of medication that should
help me up to 2 weeks.
> I am looking at
the first weather opportunity to go to St
> Martin.
>
> Since I am hanging myself (upside down)
from the mast hoping
> this will
elongate the spine and easy the problem…
> I started to stretch last week (before the
pain in the leg) will
> resume as soon
as I feel better.
> How is everything
else? Any chance for your eye? How about the
> family problems?
>
Alexandre
>
>
>
>
--------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 3/3/17, Kent Robertson
karkauai@...
> [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
>
> Subject:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
> To:
amelyachtowners@...
> Date:
Friday, March 3, 2017, 10:14 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Alex.  Sorry to
hear about your back
> issues.  I've
had 4 spine surgeries over the last 40
>
years.  After the last one, I started doing "back
> yoga", just gentle stretching and
core strengthening,
> no pretzel stuff.
 It's been like a miracle for
>
me.Best of
> luck!
>
KentKristy SM243
>
>

>
>
>
>
>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Eric,

Thanks so much for your message.
I actually posted by mistake this on the forum...

I am quite upset with the local doctor, that prescribe too mild medication, the pain constantly wakes me up at night…
Anyway, I don’t know when I will arrive in St Martin, being solo and in pain, I have to be more cautious than usual.
It is possible that I leave on the 11 and arrive on the 12, but not sure as I could wait for better weather too…

As always thanks so much…
Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 3/4/17, kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 4, 2017, 7:29 PM


 









Hi Alexandre,
If you get to SXM before the 13th.
I have some stuff in my kit that will help.
I am also VERY friendly with a local pharmacist who
knows everyone on the Dutch side.
Good Luck,
Eric
 
Eric

----- Original
Message -----
From: "Alexandre
Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back
Problems
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

> Good morning Kent,
> I
had a friend who had 3 surgeries and still back pain…
> Well Saturday night, had back pain again,
this time it was
> intolerable and my
left leg was numb.
> In the morning went
to a clinique, the doctor gave an injection
> of Voltaren, no effect. Later she gave an
injection of
> steroids, no effect.
> She sent me to the emergency room who gave
me another injection:
> no effect, then
an injection of Morphine, still no effect.
> Neither they or I could believe it… They
said they couldn’t
> inject anything
else in fear I would overdose.
> I saw a
doctor (who was smelling booze 1/2 meter away) who said
> he did not want me on medication to see
the full effect in the
> morning, then
to have an MRI… so couldn’t sleep all night.
> In the morning surprisingly they gave me
medication, the doctor
> did not come…
just as I was going to sleep, my neighbor put his
> TV loud and was singing rap music…
> Administration came and said it was $1170
per day plus
> medication, X Ray, etc. I
said this is crazy.
> I was supposed to
have the MRI in the afternoon, somehow did not
> happened, I was getting pretty upset, my
blood pressure reach
> 160/100 in the
evening.
> Received medication, slept
ok, again delay for the MRI, I told a
>
nice doctor, I will leave today, as I can’t keep paying
$1170
> per day for waiting, he said I
misunderstood the price, that
> this was
for everything, he called administration who came and
> said, since I am not a “local”, this
is the price for “Visitors”
>
(tourist). The doctor was stunned.
> Had
MRI, the tech person (unofficially) show me a disc pointing

> out which causes the numb leg and the
pain.
> The Hospital wanted me to stay
one more day for the doctor MRI’s
>
reading, I said NO, we argue for 2 hours, then I was able to

> discharged myself against medical
advice. The nice doctor
> prescribe me
medication.
> Was presented a bill of
over $4000. I refused to pay the day I
>
was waiting for the MRI.
> On the bill
they even charge $0.50 for the little cup in which
> they bring the medication ?!? crazy.
> I told them if they had told me the price,
I would have decline
> and take a plane
for St martin.
> We settle, I left in
pain as the medication was wearing off.
> I have a bag of medication that should
help me up to 2 weeks.
> I am looking at
the first weather opportunity to go to St
> Martin.
>
> Since I am hanging myself (upside down)
from the mast hoping
> this will
elongate the spine and easy the problem…
> I started to stretch last week (before the
pain in the leg) will
> resume as soon
as I feel better.
> How is everything
else? Any chance for your eye? How about the
> family problems?
>
Alexandre
>
>
>
>
--------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 3/3/17, Kent Robertson
karkauai@yahoo.com
> [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
>
> Subject:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
> To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> Date:
Friday, March 3, 2017, 10:14 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Alex.  Sorry to
hear about your back
> issues.  I've
had 4 spine surgeries over the last 40
>
years.  After the last one, I started doing "back
> yoga", just gentle stretching and
core strengthening,
> no pretzel stuff.
 It's been like a miracle for
>
me.Best of
> luck!
>
KentKristy SM243
>
>

>
>
>
>
>


Gelcoat repair in St Martin

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Can anyone recommend a good gelcoat repair man in St Martin?  We are at a marina in the lagoon for several weeks and hope to get some work done.  


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita 

SM 347



Guadeloupe Marinas?

Dan Carlson
 

Hi all, we have friends coming to visit us in Guadelouope later in April and are looking for recommendations for good marinas and other good things to do with guests there.

Please send any reccos to carlsdan61 at gmail dot com.

Thanks and regards, Dan Carlson
sv BeBe, SM 387


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Incoming fuel filter

eric freedman
 


Re: Mastervolt 24/500 Inverter available

Duane Siegfri
 

John,

I won't be there in Ft. L in April. I can mail it anywhere you like though. We will be in West Palm for 7 to 14 more days, and I would like to send it in that time frame.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thomson clothes washer

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent. Apart from the San blas we did little more down there than prepare the boat for the crossing. Have regretted it. The area is so low cost and interesting. Enjoy your time there and good luck with the lady. Hope to see you in nz
Regards
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean Pearl

On 5 Mar 2017 3:03 a.m., "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hola Danny!
Thats the plan, Danny.  I am going to stay I'm the W & S Caribbean for several more months before I transit and head your way.  I've met an awesome lady who may be my CoCaptain/best mate if things work out.  She has another year or so before she can slip her lines , so I may delay until she is ready to go.
San Blas, Bocas Del Toros, and Belize should keep me busy for quite a while.  Did you do the Rio Dulce in Guatemala?  Is it worth while?  I've heard Guatemala isn't safe right now.

Steady as ye go!

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: Mastervolt 24/500 Inverter available

John Clark
 

Hi Duane,
It will be hard to sell a 230/50Hz inverter in the States. If it doesn't sell I'd be interested in it. I'm in Martinique right now awaiting a rerigging at Amel. We are sailing to Ft Lauderdale after rerig to pick up a solar arch from Emek and some newer electronics. If you will be there sometime in April, I'll buy dinner in exchange for the inverter. ;)

A thought just occurred to me, you aren't buying an Emek arch are you? Riza is shipping mine along with someone else's in the same crate.


Regards. John

John Clark
Vent de Soleil SM37
Le Marin Martinique


Mastervolt 24/500 Inverter available

Duane Siegfri
 

I have this inverter for sale on Ebay for the second time, and it doesn't look like it's going to sell. 


If anyone on this forum wants it, I'll give it to you for the cost of shipping it to you.  It was mounted in a Super Maramu in the cupboard under the Navigation desk.  It takes 24v DC and coverts it to 230v 50hz AC power.  It's fairly simple to run cables from the battery box to that location on the SM.  I'll need to know in the 5 days or so in order to get it in the mail.  Mastervolt still sells these if you want the spec's or check out Ebay for photo's here http://www.ebay.com/itm/252793355249?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2648


It does not have any outlets so you would have to wire that up.  Amel used these to power the TV.  I replaced it with a larger inverter in the same location.


Cheers!

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thomson clothes washer

karkauai
 

Hola Danny!
Thats the plan, Danny.  I am going to stay I'm the W & S Caribbean for several more months before I transit and head your way.  I've met an awesome lady who may be my CoCaptain/best mate if things work out.  She has another year or so before she can slip her lines , so I may delay until she is ready to go.
San Blas, Bocas Del Toros, and Belize should keep me busy for quite a while.  Did you do the Rio Dulce in Guatemala?  Is it worth while?  I've heard Guatemala isn't safe right now.

Steady as ye go!

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

karkauai
 

Hi Alex,
I'll send a private email

Kent


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Incoming fuel filter

karkauai
 

Hi Eric,
I'd like the pics of your prefilter set up, too.  Thanks.
karkauai at yahoo dot com

Kent
Kristy SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thomson clothes washer

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent. Shelter bay
 Remember it well. Are you priming up for a pacific crossing??
Danny
Ocean Pearl

On 4 Mar 2017 4:56 a.m., "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hola from Shelter Bay, Bill!
I just got here from San Blas and am just now reading your mail.  The washer drains well and there is no water in the bottom of it, it just doesn't spin.  The clothes seem to be free of detergent.
 Are there relays or capacitors that initiate each part of the cycle, or is it all controlled by a motherboard?  Has anyone gotten into it to troubleshoot?

I'll look at the drain, Bill, but I don't think that will be the problem.

Muchas gracias, Bill. I hope you're enjoying your life ashore.
Kent
Kristy SM243
Panama

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Feb 23, 2017, at 1:33 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

It may be caused by the water pump no longer working, or clogged.

Remove the two bolts and remove the L shaped wood surrounding your washer...be careful with the washer cabinet lid which will come loose.

On the front of the washer is a clean-out and inspection port for the water pump. On the front of the washer is a manual drain hose.

Do a little investigation...if it is the water pump, I have a source for you...if it is just clogged have your wet-vac handy and of course buckets to drain the washer through the manual drain hose on the front of the washer.

Bill
X-BeBe

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ahoy, all!
My Thompson Washer/Dryer has just stopped spinning (Essorage) the water out of the clothes.  It stops when the Essorage light comes on.  I don't have any info on this unit and need some advice about what to look for...?and how?

Muchas Gracias from Panama
Kent
S/V Kristy SM243