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Re: battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Alan,
please help: what do you mean with the „+ve“ battery cables? Cables to balancers or which way and connection?
Sorry to ask, just avoiding any errors on Installation.
Thanks so much for you expertise.

Best Regards 
Ulrich 

Am 29.12.2020 um 08:39 schrieb Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...>:

Thanks Paul,

that's right, AND all the +ve and -ve battery cables should be the same length, otherwise there will be voltage differences which will work against the balancing effect.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Foredeck dinghy cradle

Alan Leslie
 

Hello all,

I concur with some on this issue.
It reminds me of all those (mostly US) long keel yachts I used to see with jerricans of fuel and water, as well as surfboards and other junk, tied to the stanchions.
Holy moly, if they ever got serious green water over the boat, all that would be lost, as well as the stanchions and the lifelines.
I can't count the number of times Elyse's foredeck has been awash with the sea in tough conditions, and been so glad that everything was stored below.
We are not quite in that situation now.
We used to have an inflatable floor Avon which we always packed up and stowed before heading out.
Now we have a Highfield RIB which clearly we cannot stow.
We travel with it strapped upside down on the aft cabin roof with a cover on it and wide webbing straps to hold it in place.
It's not perfect but MUCH better than having it on the foredeck I'm sure.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Paul,

that's right, AND all the +ve and -ve battery cables should be the same length, otherwise there will be voltage differences which will work against the balancing effect.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Fuel Tank Leak

James Alton
 

Dennis,

   According to the measurements I took of my seeping fuel tank and from the posts of others that have removed the Maramu fuel tank it is apparently possible to remove the fuel tank with minimal interior removal.  In my case, I found some cracks in the metal/welds on the forward end of the tank,  one of which was seeping.  The only areas where I had cracks were at or close to the welds, the rest of the tank looked excellent.   I drained, flushed and cleaned the tank with solvents.  Vented to remove the solvent fumes.  Then detached the tank and moved it into the center of the pass thru to the aft cabin, letting it sit on a couple wooden blocks an added some lines to keep the tank upright.  The tank is awkward but really not that heavy, maybe 150 pounds?  I was able to move it around in the area of the pass thru by myself with a little ingenuity.  In my case,  moving the tank to the middle of the pass thru  fully exposed the cracks in my tank and they were welded which has so far cured the seeping that I had.  Before reinstalling the tank,  I replaced all of the carpet that the tank was resting on and removed the foam that had absorbed fuel.  I inspected the interior of the tank where possible by the way and found no corrosion inside at all.

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220




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Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2020 9:38 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Tank Leak

Hello Amelians,

My 1982/3 Maramu appears to have sprung a leak in the fuel tank.  This happened once before but it was just the inspection port plate that needed tightening. 

The Maramu appears to have had the deck applied after the tank was installed.  Has anyone had their fuel tank removed for repair?

What are my options?

Thanks in advance.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121 


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Mark Barter
 

Thanks Bill, 

The fitter did use an alignment tool but we have a prop shaft alternator and the tool used didn't have the required extra length. When I change the feet and refit the engine I will have a tool made that has the extra length. 
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Main mast foil play

 

Thomas,

I would not recommend the "epoxy idea." This is not normal "wear and tear." 
It is caused by overloading the foil when furling and unfurling with the most 
common reason for overload being caused by jammed battens. Your SM did not 
come with battens. If you have them, you should remove them or risk this damage.

Good luck. I have more information on this. If you want it, email me at brouse@....

Craig, I have not seen a Santorin with this problem. I do not believe you need it on your maintenance list.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 7:55 PM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
Thanks Bill- as I compare your pic with the amount of play in my foil, I'm reluctantly aware that I'm engaging in "reality management"; my foil movement matches the pic. I'm certain my foil has never been cut, so the repair seems straightforward. There is a suggestion I've read that calls for filling the bottom of the cut foil with epoxy to strengthen it vs. the cut and drill method. Not sure how to evaluate the two approaches other than the fact that Amel didn't do that in building the boat. 

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422 SV L'ORIENT
Oahu


Fuel Tank Leak

sbmesasailor
 

Hello Amelians,

My 1982/3 Maramu appears to have sprung a leak in the fuel tank.  This happened once before but it was just the inspection port plate that needed tightening. 

The Maramu appears to have had the deck applied after the tank was installed.  Has anyone had their fuel tank removed for repair?

What are my options?

Thanks in advance.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121 


Re: Main mast foil play

Thomas Kleman
 

Thanks Bill- as I compare your pic with the amount of play in my foil, I'm reluctantly aware that I'm engaging in "reality management"; my foil movement matches the pic. I'm certain my foil has never been cut, so the repair seems straightforward. There is a suggestion I've read that calls for filling the bottom of the cut foil with epoxy to strengthen it vs. the cut and drill method. Not sure how to evaluate the two approaches other than the fact that Amel didn't do that in building the boat. 

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422 SV L'ORIENT
Oahu


Re: Main mast foil play

Craig Briggs
 

Preventive maintenance is great, but this may be in the category of, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Two cents, of course.
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Main mast foil play

 

The short answer is you will not see all of the damage. It is fairly easy to inspect. The damage in the following photo was below the collar and not visible.  Remove the top bolt on the collar and with a halyard raise the foil upwards until you can inspect the damage. You may have to ease the mainsail halyard. Let me know if you need anything else.
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Amel has designed a repair kit for those who have trimmed the foil more than 2 times.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 3:44 PM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
In installing our new mainsail, I noticed that there is some play (a small amount) in the foil connection to the furler. I've read all the posts regarding the process for cutting down the foil and drilling new holes but I'm wondering how urgent an issue this is given the small amount of play and the fact that the foil shows no signs of fracturing (yet). We like to stay ahead of problems, but I also don't want to overreact- it took 17 years for this small amount of play to emerge.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Oahu


Main mast foil play

Thomas Kleman
 

In installing our new mainsail, I noticed that there is some play (a small amount) in the foil connection to the furler. I've read all the posts regarding the process for cutting down the foil and drilling new holes but I'm wondering how urgent an issue this is given the small amount of play and the fact that the foil shows no signs of fracturing (yet). We like to stay ahead of problems, but I also don't want to overreact- it took 17 years for this small amount of play to emerge.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

Brent Cameron
 

Thanks Ulrich... I didn't mean to imply that your hardtop came from the Amel factory, just that it looks like it did.    I particularly like how they focused on BOTH sides of the hard top and finished it like the Amel 55 Hard top with the LED lights inside and the windows.   On a related question, do you still use the dingy railway/cradle system that is in the other video?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT3VnlBR2Uc. Thanks again!  
--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Craig Briggs
 

Suggest you use six Mitsteuns. That's 402kg / 888lbs - should be fine for your 85T & accessories/frame and "C" drive partial load. Plus, I think the combination hydraulic/rubber design may be an advantage.
(Now I'm up to 4 cents worth!)
Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

 

  Mark,

Here is a short-winded reply. 

I do not know of a case where motor mounts caused serious vibration. I suggest that when you replace the motor mounts that you replace either the Vetus Coupling and/or its rubber bushings and you align the engine with a fixed coupling. There is no valid way to correctly align the engine without a fixed coupling. You will likely need a machine shop to make this coupling. Let me know if you need a drawing.


There are mechanics who will say the fixed coupling is not needed, but they probably have never made an alignment of a shaft that is less than 30cm like we have between the engine/transmission output and our Amel C-drive. I estimate there might be a 20% chance a mechanic can align this without a fixed coupling. 

Best,
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:45 AM Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:
Thanks Craig and Matt for your input. 

With regard to my comment about the engine being based on a tractor engine, the point I was trying to make was that It isn't, for example, a super smooth BMW engine. It is very basic so it won't be super quiet. The upside is that you have an engine that a skilled amateur could fix. The electrical connections are very easy to understand and troubleshooting is a breeze. I know because the electrical fitter had to do just that. It turns out that a piece of heatshrink had been badly fitted and a 10 and 40 amp fuse had been put in the wrong places.

I think my troubles will be solved by correct alignment and new, correctly rated engine feet.

I note that that Perkins which weighs 225kg plus gearbox was on 4 Vetus Mitsteun feet. They are rated at 67kg each which is a total of 268kg. That would seem a little light for the Perkins because there were 3 alternators fitted plus the weight of the frame. Clearly Amel would have known this so is it the case that, due to the fact that engine isn't bolted directly to the hull, the engine feet don't need to be as highly rated?

I note another member with a 54 fitted 4 Vetus K50 feet to the engine frame and 2 to the C-drive. These are rated at 50kg each but the Beta 85T engine alone weighs 359kg. Then there is the bigger gearbox, the frame and the alternators.  

What I am asking in a long winded way is for some advice as to which engine feet I should fit to help with the vibration issues.

Many thanks 
 
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Mark Barter
 

Thanks Craig and Matt for your input. 

With regard to my comment about the engine being based on a tractor engine, the point I was trying to make was that It isn't, for example, a super smooth BMW engine. It is very basic so it won't be super quiet. The upside is that you have an engine that a skilled amateur could fix. The electrical connections are very easy to understand and troubleshooting is a breeze. I know because the electrical fitter had to do just that. It turns out that a piece of heatshrink had been badly fitted and a 10 and 40 amp fuse had been put in the wrong places.

I think my troubles will be solved by correct alignment and new, correctly rated engine feet.

I note that that Perkins which weighs 225kg plus gearbox was on 4 Vetus Mitsteun feet. They are rated at 67kg each which is a total of 268kg. That would seem a little light for the Perkins because there were 3 alternators fitted plus the weight of the frame. Clearly Amel would have known this so is it the case that, due to the fact that engine isn't bolted directly to the hull, the engine feet don't need to be as highly rated?

I note another member with a 54 fitted 4 Vetus K50 feet to the engine frame and 2 to the C-drive. These are rated at 50kg each but the Beta 85T engine alone weighs 359kg. Then there is the bigger gearbox, the frame and the alternators.  

What I am asking in a long winded way is for some advice as to which engine feet I should fit to help with the vibration issues.

Many thanks 
 
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Alan and Paul,

best thanks for your input on the installation of the battery balancers, which i will pass to our electrician in the marina, as soon as the parts arrive here. The know how in this forum is almost unlimited, neural network, mhm? Great, thanks.

Dear Mohamed, apparently your inquiry about our hardtop has sparked further interest, as Brent and Peter indicate. So I'm welcome to respond throughout the forum:
No hardtop was ever built by Amel on a 54 ab shipyard to my knowledge, ours is also a custom build by the previous owner. in the youtube slideshow you can see all the details. may be also measures. He designed it, it was built in Turkey where he had stayed for a long time. I myself have neither drawings nor measurements, nor anything about the construction, there is no contact to the previous owners, so sorry. I mean to remember he had the HardTop built at Demir Marine Marmaris. All handmade and only the 3rd mould version has then fit. The sub-construction should consist of carbon and foam. Spotlights are mounted in the ceiling and LED strips on the edges. The upper small windows forwards can be opened to the outside. In the ceiling is also a plexi window, to control the mainsail.
We love this deckhouse because it provides perfect wind and weather protection, like a winter garden it can also be closed off sideways and aft with matching sunbrella canvas (with integrated plastic windows and mosquito nets.
This YouTube shows all details and equipment too, but sorry no construction drawings, so sorry!
Alian, your solution appears to me also very professional and versatile too. compliments.

Best wishes to all and THX
Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ / A54#088

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Ulrich,
 
I seem to recall reading that it is important that all the cables connecting the balancers are exactly the same in gauge and length.
 
Cheers,
Paul
S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ULRICH DANGELMEYER
Sent: 27 December 2020 13:34
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM
 
Hello Ameliens,
I hope you are all healthy and in good spirits, wherever you are. Inspired by some comments here about better battery condition and performance, I decided to install Victron battery balancers. We have a 54 #088, and replaced all 12 service batteries in Victron AGM 110Ah deep cycle this summer. Here I have the following questions specifically to other 54 friends who have done this optimization themselves:
- where did you install these blue boxes? Directly in the battery compartment or next to the bulkhead where all the cables and the main switches are mounted?Victron recommends mounting vertically, out of the battery vapor. since I can't get directly into the boat at the moment, I have no idea where and how to mount.
- 2nd question: what is the best way to wire? Victron recommends for 12 batteries 2 balancers connected in parallel. so 1 balancer between 6 batteries. If you have better pragmatic experience, I am very grateful. Since we do not know when we come back to Greece, I would with your recommendation then provide the electrician of the marina with the parts and installation instructions, so that he can install the balancers in the meantime optimally.
I have already asked twice at Pochon, Mr. Geniteau, who make the electrical installations at all Amel. But until today unfortunately no answer or feedback get. pity.
Therefore, I hope for your tremendous practical experience and exchange in this great forum and thank you very much in advance.
 
For 2021, wherever you are, I wish you only the best: health, happiness and fair winds.
Stay healthy!
 
Best regards
Ulrich
"Soleil Bleu" / A54#088
 
 
 


-- 
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Ulrich,

 

I seem to recall reading that it is important that all the cables connecting the balancers are exactly the same in gauge and length.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ULRICH DANGELMEYER
Sent: 27 December 2020 13:34
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

 

Hello Ameliens,

I hope you are all healthy and in good spirits, wherever you are. Inspired by some comments here about better battery condition and performance, I decided to install Victron battery balancers. We have a 54 #088, and replaced all 12 service batteries in Victron AGM 110Ah deep cycle this summer. Here I have the following questions specifically to other 54 friends who have done this optimization themselves:

- where did you install these blue boxes? Directly in the battery compartment or next to the bulkhead where all the cables and the main switches are mounted?Victron recommends mounting vertically, out of the battery vapor. since I can't get directly into the boat at the moment, I have no idea where and how to mount.

- 2nd question: what is the best way to wire? Victron recommends for 12 batteries 2 balancers connected in parallel. so 1 balancer between 6 batteries. If you have better pragmatic experience, I am very grateful. Since we do not know when we come back to Greece, I would with your recommendation then provide the electrician of the marina with the parts and installation instructions, so that he can install the balancers in the meantime optimally.

I have already asked twice at Pochon, Mr. Geniteau, who make the electrical installations at all Amel. But until today unfortunately no answer or feedback get. pity.

Therefore, I hope for your tremendous practical experience and exchange in this great forum and thank you very much in advance.

 

For 2021, wherever you are, I wish you only the best: health, happiness and fair winds.

Stay healthy!

 

Best regards
Ulrich
"Soleil Bleu" / A54#088

 

 

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

Peter Forbes
 

Bonjour Alain,

Thank you - I have seen the video - can you tell me who made it and could  they make another. Your 54 is beautiful.

I am at ppsforbes’at’gmail.com

Cordialement

Peter

Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory 
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 28 Dec 2020, at 09:41, Alain Durante <info@...> wrote:



Peter,

 

For your information,  hardtop set up on my Amel 54 #021

, photos attached.

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

 

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Peter Forbes via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 28 décembre 2020 09:51
À : main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

 

I too am very interested in this new hardtop set up. Carango has a half (forward half) hard top which we sailed around the world but we are interested in replacing that with the Soleil Blue version. Ours has a top window so we can see the set of the main sail from the cockpit which we like. But we do not have solar panel on top because of that. 

 

Can someone tell us where this new hardtop was made and who owns the design.

 

I would like to ask prices of the manufacturer.

 

Can anyone help with that.

 

Peter

Peter Forbes

Carango 

Amel 54 #035

La Rochelle

00447836 209730

07836 209730



On 27 Dec 2020, at 21:38, Brent Cameron <brentcameron61@...> wrote:



I won’t speak for the rest of the forum but I’d also be very interested in hearing about the excellent and beautiful hardtop on Soleil Blue.  For those who haven’t seen it, check out this great video. https://youtu.be/DT7x0SjM648  This hard top looks like it came off the A54 assembly line. Super well done. I’d love to hear how it has worked out. 

 

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator

On Dec 27, 2020, 12:01 PM -0500, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>, wrote:

Hello Ulrich;

 

Sorry about this question about a completely unrelated issue. But since I did not have your direct e-mail, thought I’d reach out to you  on the forum.

 

We are considering adding a hardtop to our 54 and would like to discuss your experience with the hard top on Soleil Bleu. Would you mind sending me an e-mail directly to mshirloo at transpacific.us

 

I apologize to the rest of the forum for this unrelated post.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ULRICH DANGELMEYER via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:34 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

 

Hello Ameliens,

I hope you are all healthy and in good spirits, wherever you are. Inspired by some comments here about better battery condition and performance, I decided to install Victron battery balancers. We have a 54 #088, and replaced all 12 service batteries in Victron AGM 110Ah deep cycle this summer. Here I have the following questions specifically to other 54 friends who have done this optimization themselves:

- where did you install these blue boxes? Directly in the battery compartment or next to the bulkhead where all the cables and the main switches are mounted?Victron recommends mounting vertically, out of the battery vapor. since I can't get directly into the boat at the moment, I have no idea where and how to mount.

- 2nd question: what is the best way to wire? Victron recommends for 12 batteries 2 balancers connected in parallel. so 1 balancer between 6 batteries. If you have better pragmatic experience, I am very grateful. Since we do not know when we come back to Greece, I would with your recommendation then provide the electrician of the marina with the parts and installation instructions, so that he can install the balancers in the meantime optimally.

I have already asked twice at Pochon, Mr. Geniteau, who make the electrical installations at all Amel. But until today unfortunately no answer or feedback get. pity.

Therefore, I hope for your tremendous practical experience and exchange in this great forum and thank you very much in advance.

 

For 2021, wherever you are, I wish you only the best: health, happiness and fair winds.

Stay healthy!

 

Best regards
Ulrich
"Soleil Bleu" / A54#088

 

 

 


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada

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Re: battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

Alain Durante
 

Peter,

 

For your information,  hardtop set up on my Amel 54 #021

, photos attached.

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

 

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Peter Forbes via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 28 décembre 2020 09:51
À : main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

 

I too am very interested in this new hardtop set up. Carango has a half (forward half) hard top which we sailed around the world but we are interested in replacing that with the Soleil Blue version. Ours has a top window so we can see the set of the main sail from the cockpit which we like. But we do not have solar panel on top because of that. 

 

Can someone tell us where this new hardtop was made and who owns the design.

 

I would like to ask prices of the manufacturer.

 

Can anyone help with that.

 

Peter

Peter Forbes

Carango 

Amel 54 #035

La Rochelle

00447836 209730

07836 209730



On 27 Dec 2020, at 21:38, Brent Cameron <brentcameron61@...> wrote:



I won’t speak for the rest of the forum but I’d also be very interested in hearing about the excellent and beautiful hardtop on Soleil Blue.  For those who haven’t seen it, check out this great video. https://youtu.be/DT7x0SjM648  This hard top looks like it came off the A54 assembly line. Super well done. I’d love to hear how it has worked out. 

 

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator

On Dec 27, 2020, 12:01 PM -0500, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>, wrote:

Hello Ulrich;

 

Sorry about this question about a completely unrelated issue. But since I did not have your direct e-mail, thought I’d reach out to you  on the forum.

 

We are considering adding a hardtop to our 54 and would like to discuss your experience with the hard top on Soleil Bleu. Would you mind sending me an e-mail directly to mshirloo at transpacific.us

 

I apologize to the rest of the forum for this unrelated post.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ULRICH DANGELMEYER via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:34 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

 

Hello Ameliens,

I hope you are all healthy and in good spirits, wherever you are. Inspired by some comments here about better battery condition and performance, I decided to install Victron battery balancers. We have a 54 #088, and replaced all 12 service batteries in Victron AGM 110Ah deep cycle this summer. Here I have the following questions specifically to other 54 friends who have done this optimization themselves:

- where did you install these blue boxes? Directly in the battery compartment or next to the bulkhead where all the cables and the main switches are mounted?Victron recommends mounting vertically, out of the battery vapor. since I can't get directly into the boat at the moment, I have no idea where and how to mount.

- 2nd question: what is the best way to wire? Victron recommends for 12 batteries 2 balancers connected in parallel. so 1 balancer between 6 batteries. If you have better pragmatic experience, I am very grateful. Since we do not know when we come back to Greece, I would with your recommendation then provide the electrician of the marina with the parts and installation instructions, so that he can install the balancers in the meantime optimally.

I have already asked twice at Pochon, Mr. Geniteau, who make the electrical installations at all Amel. But until today unfortunately no answer or feedback get. pity.

Therefore, I hope for your tremendous practical experience and exchange in this great forum and thank you very much in advance.

 

For 2021, wherever you are, I wish you only the best: health, happiness and fair winds.

Stay healthy!

 

Best regards
Ulrich
"Soleil Bleu" / A54#088

 

 

 


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

Peter Forbes
 

I too am very interested in this new hardtop set up. Carango has a half (forward half) hard top which we sailed around the world but we are interested in replacing that with the Soleil Blue version. Ours has a top window so we can see the set of the main sail from the cockpit which we like. But we do not have solar panel on top because of that. 

Can someone tell us where this new hardtop was made and who owns the design.

I would like to ask prices of the manufacturer.

Can anyone help with that.

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango 
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 27 Dec 2020, at 21:38, Brent Cameron <brentcameron61@...> wrote:


I won’t speak for the rest of the forum but I’d also be very interested in hearing about the excellent and beautiful hardtop on Soleil Blue.  For those who haven’t seen it, check out this great video. https://youtu.be/DT7x0SjM648  This hard top looks like it came off the A54 assembly line. Super well done. I’d love to hear how it has worked out. 

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator
On Dec 27, 2020, 12:01 PM -0500, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>, wrote:

Hello Ulrich;

 

Sorry about this question about a completely unrelated issue. But since I did not have your direct e-mail, thought I’d reach out to you  on the forum.

 

We are considering adding a hardtop to our 54 and would like to discuss your experience with the hard top on Soleil Bleu. Would you mind sending me an e-mail directly to mshirloo at transpacific.us

 

I apologize to the rest of the forum for this unrelated post.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ULRICH DANGELMEYER via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:34 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] battery balancers /A54/ Victron AGM

 

Hello Ameliens,

I hope you are all healthy and in good spirits, wherever you are. Inspired by some comments here about better battery condition and performance, I decided to install Victron battery balancers. We have a 54 #088, and replaced all 12 service batteries in Victron AGM 110Ah deep cycle this summer. Here I have the following questions specifically to other 54 friends who have done this optimization themselves:

- where did you install these blue boxes? Directly in the battery compartment or next to the bulkhead where all the cables and the main switches are mounted?Victron recommends mounting vertically, out of the battery vapor. since I can't get directly into the boat at the moment, I have no idea where and how to mount.

- 2nd question: what is the best way to wire? Victron recommends for 12 batteries 2 balancers connected in parallel. so 1 balancer between 6 batteries. If you have better pragmatic experience, I am very grateful. Since we do not know when we come back to Greece, I would with your recommendation then provide the electrician of the marina with the parts and installation instructions, so that he can install the balancers in the meantime optimally.

I have already asked twice at Pochon, Mr. Geniteau, who make the electrical installations at all Amel. But until today unfortunately no answer or feedback get. pity.

Therefore, I hope for your tremendous practical experience and exchange in this great forum and thank you very much in advance.

 

For 2021, wherever you are, I wish you only the best: health, happiness and fair winds.

Stay healthy!

 

Best regards
Ulrich
"Soleil Bleu" / A54#088

 

 

 


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