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Re: In or out of gear?

smiles bernard
 

Thanks all

I was not so keen on freespining for the reasons James mentioned an a sense of wear and tear 


I’ll definitely go for reverse !

Many thanks all

M

On 24 Jun 2020, at 13:50, Aras <aras.grinius@...> wrote:


I agree with Gerhard.  Should have no effect

Aras
Sharki #163 1988
Daytona

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:36 AM Gerhard Mueller via groups.io <carcode=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Some times ago was a discussion about gear shift while sailing. Most Amel have a sticker beside the gear level saying never have the shift to forward while sailing and engine off.
My understanding is there is no difference for the prop if turned by sailing or by current. So if you don't want a turning prop while at anchor shift to reverse or whatever your sticker say.
I do have a Hurth gearbox with the sticker saying NO forward while sailing and engine off.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece



--
Aras Grinius


Re: Cruise and Max RPM #solution

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi, the proper max rpm under load for the TMD 22 Volvo as installed in the Amel SM is 2800. ( no load 4500) The turbo has what is called a waste gate which automatically controls the amount of exhaust gas going through the turbo as rpm increases. If this is stuck closed (will happen) the motor will rev much higher, even up to 4000 rpm and beyond. This is caused by over turbo pressure into the engine which will cause damage to the pistons and rings which in turn will reduce the power the motor can develop and result in lower revs and the need for either an overhaul or replacement. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 26 June 2020 at 02:10 JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: running rigging on Sharki

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Why don't you go on line and look for the Delos story. It is an SM sailing the world. I am sure the videos will show what you need. Like wise there must be photos in the files on this site that you can browse.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 25 June 2020 at 21:34 Peter Baumann <mistymeadowfarm@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,
I have basically never sailed on an Amel. It's not immediately obvious where the sheets are running. The previous owner or the boatyard also removed all the blocks. I see a lot of potential attachment points, but don't want to leave it all to trial and error. It's a shame I never saw the boat with sails attached. We did the sea trial under engine before we bought in the fall.  The sails and running rigging had all been taken down and stored. I am now trying to figure out how it all goes together. It's been blowing hard here the last few days, so there was no thinking about putting the sails on the furlers. We expect calm by tomorrow, so I am eager to get them out of the bags.  I wish I could send you some of the wind we are having right now :)
Thanks and all the best,
Pete


Re: problems installing a new Yanmar engine #replacement

 

The simple answer is that either the soft coupling rubber donuts were not replaced, or the engine/transmission output - The Vetus Coupling and the C-Drive are not aligned correctly.

If you did not use a fixed coupling to align all of this, it was done wrong. Don't use it until all is aligned correctly.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:35 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
There are several threads on this forum on the topic.  Here is one with a description of the alignment process after changing out engine mounts:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/29770137#42520

Both the original poster Alan Grayson and I used this process AND the alignment tool after changing our engine mounts and it worked well for us.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: problems installing a new Yanmar engine #replacement

Mark McGovern
 

There are several threads on this forum on the topic.  Here is one with a description of the alignment process after changing out engine mounts:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/29770137#42520

Both the original poster Alan Grayson and I used this process AND the alignment tool after changing our engine mounts and it worked well for us.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: problems installing a new Yanmar engine #replacement

Teun BAAS
 

Good Morning,

 

On what AMEL? I replaced mine on an A54.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

I am now stuck in TEXAS USA

AMELIT is on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

June 25, 2020 12:13:57

 

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AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ????? ??????? via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:56
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] problems installing a new Yanmar engine #replacement

 

Amel owners who did an engine replacement, please help!

We are replacing the old Volvo penta engine with the new Yanmar engine. we have problem - vibration. Did you have such a problem?

Do you know how to do alignment of engine and saildrive?


Re: problems installing a new Yanmar engine #replacement

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

Model, hull no and building year??

/Ann-Sofie 
S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998.


Skickat från min iPhone

25 juni 2020 kl. 17:56 skrev Ирина Полищук <irrinapolishchuk@...>:

Amel owners who did an engine replacement, please help!

We are replacing the old Volvo penta engine with the new Yanmar engine. we have problem - vibration. Did you have such a problem?

Do you know how to do alignment of engine and saildrive?
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problems installing a new Yanmar engine #replacement

Ira and Roman Morozov
 

Amel owners who did an engine replacement, please help!

We are replacing the old Volvo penta engine with the new Yanmar engine. we have problem - vibration. Did you have such a problem?

Do you know how to do alignment of engine and saildrive?


Re: Cruise and Max RPM #solution

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Pat,

I have not tried that.  I will look into it.  There is still plenty of travel left on the throttle lever when we hit 2100 RPM, it's just that pushing it farther has no effect.  This makes me think something is preventing the engine from turning faster, but I will check to rule out the throttle linkage.  Thanks for the tip!

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:27 AM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ryan, Have tried  to manually advance the throttle. Perhaps the throttle linkage /cable may have slipped in the engine compartment. I have the TMD22a and max out at 3100 rpms with a fixed prop or my Maxprop, which gets me to 8.3 kts.
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 11:20 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Cruise and Max RPM #solution

We have the TMD22 with a fixed 3-blade prop (the original spare, I think).  When we first got the boat, we could rev to about 3000, and we cruised at about 2400.  This season we could only get up to about 2100 even with a freshly cleaned bottom and prop.  I discovered the turbo had seized, which seemed like the obvious cause, but nothing changed after we had it replaced.  I'm trying to find a fuel problem, as that's the only other thing that might explain it, as far as I know.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:55 AM Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:
This is question without a definitive answer. 
We also have the TMD22. When we bought our boat (about 4 years used), we could get almost 3,000 rpm at max throttle. Our local diesel guy suggested cruising at 80% of max, or 2,400. Our max started to lessen within about a year. 
Ever since then, we have usually not been able to max out at 3,000. Usually max is 2,400 to 2,600, so we cruise at 80% of that.
Issues affecting max cruise rpm include bottom, prop (even one barnacle can make a difference), turbo condition, and countless others. 
I suppose that, just like me, the Volvo has also lost a little mojo as it has aged. 

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

with its tiny keyboard

On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:10 AM, JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: Cruise and Max RPM #solution

Patrick McAneny
 

Ryan, Have tried  to manually advance the throttle. Perhaps the throttle linkage /cable may have slipped in the engine compartment. I have the TMD22a and max out at 3100 rpms with a fixed prop or my Maxprop, which gets me to 8.3 kts.
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 11:20 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Cruise and Max RPM #solution

We have the TMD22 with a fixed 3-blade prop (the original spare, I think).  When we first got the boat, we could rev to about 3000, and we cruised at about 2400.  This season we could only get up to about 2100 even with a freshly cleaned bottom and prop.  I discovered the turbo had seized, which seemed like the obvious cause, but nothing changed after we had it replaced.  I'm trying to find a fuel problem, as that's the only other thing that might explain it, as far as I know.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:55 AM Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:
This is question without a definitive answer. 
We also have the TMD22. When we bought our boat (about 4 years used), we could get almost 3,000 rpm at max throttle. Our local diesel guy suggested cruising at 80% of max, or 2,400. Our max started to lessen within about a year. 
Ever since then, we have usually not been able to max out at 3,000. Usually max is 2,400 to 2,600, so we cruise at 80% of that.
Issues affecting max cruise rpm include bottom, prop (even one barnacle can make a difference), turbo condition, and countless others. 
I suppose that, just like me, the Volvo has also lost a little mojo as it has aged. 

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

with its tiny keyboard

On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:10 AM, JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: Cruise and Max RPM #solution

Ryan Meador
 

We have the TMD22 with a fixed 3-blade prop (the original spare, I think).  When we first got the boat, we could rev to about 3000, and we cruised at about 2400.  This season we could only get up to about 2100 even with a freshly cleaned bottom and prop.  I discovered the turbo had seized, which seemed like the obvious cause, but nothing changed after we had it replaced.  I'm trying to find a fuel problem, as that's the only other thing that might explain it, as far as I know.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:55 AM Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:
This is question without a definitive answer. 
We also have the TMD22. When we bought our boat (about 4 years used), we could get almost 3,000 rpm at max throttle. Our local diesel guy suggested cruising at 80% of max, or 2,400. Our max started to lessen within about a year. 
Ever since then, we have usually not been able to max out at 3,000. Usually max is 2,400 to 2,600, so we cruise at 80% of that.
Issues affecting max cruise rpm include bottom, prop (even one barnacle can make a difference), turbo condition, and countless others. 
I suppose that, just like me, the Volvo has also lost a little mojo as it has aged. 

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

with its tiny keyboard

On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:10 AM, JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: Maramu - Goiot Y-Track Mizzen Car Repair

Dom
 

Hi,
Mizzen car repair for 100 pesetas. Also possible with other currencies ;)
Fair winds
Dominique


Re: Cruise and Max RPM #solution

Thomas Peacock
 

This is question without a definitive answer. 
We also have the TMD22. When we bought our boat (about 4 years used), we could get almost 3,000 rpm at max throttle. Our local diesel guy suggested cruising at 80% of max, or 2,400. Our max started to lessen within about a year. 
Ever since then, we have usually not been able to max out at 3,000. Usually max is 2,400 to 2,600, so we cruise at 80% of that.
Issues affecting max cruise rpm include bottom, prop (even one barnacle can make a difference), turbo condition, and countless others. 
I suppose that, just like me, the Volvo has also lost a little mojo as it has aged. 

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

with its tiny keyboard

On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:10 AM, JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: Cruise and Max RPM #solution

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hello,

Amel put an too big AUTOPROP propeller on SM with TMD22 so the maximum  power was approximately 40 HP .... and the RPM on best sea and boat condition was 2 000 - 2 200 RPM.

To go over put a smaller prop !

Dr JL MERTZ

CottonBay




Le 25/06/2020 à 16:10, JOSE PRIETO a écrit :

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Cruise and Max RPM #solution

JOSE PRIETO
 

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: running rigging on Sharki

Peter Baumann
 

Hi Mark,
I have basically never sailed on an Amel. It's not immediately obvious where the sheets are running. The previous owner or the boatyard also removed all the blocks. I see a lot of potential attachment points, but don't want to leave it all to trial and error. It's a shame I never saw the boat with sails attached. We did the sea trial under engine before we bought in the fall.  The sails and running rigging had all been taken down and stored. I am now trying to figure out how it all goes together. It's been blowing hard here the last few days, so there was no thinking about putting the sails on the furlers. We expect calm by tomorrow, so I am eager to get them out of the bags.  I wish I could send you some of the wind we are having right now :)
Thanks and all the best,
Pete


Re: running rigging on Sharki

Peter Baumann
 

Morning Aras,
Electric furlers for Genua and main, manual on the mizzen. I have a box of shackles and blocks and three sail bags left by the previous owner. Any pictures of your setup would be helpful: main and mizzen sheet attachments, path of the genus sheets. Only send if you are on free WiFi. I’ll just try to figure out the puzzle until then. 

Best

Pete

On 24. Jun 2020, at 14:46, Aras <aras.grinius@...> wrote:


Morning Pete,
I have Hull #163 1988.  When you say running rigging, what do you exactly need?  I have the electric furlers, 2 downwind poles etc.  I can send pictures of my setup. 

aras
Sharki #163 1988
Daytona

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 4:59 PM Peter Baumann <mistymeadowfarm@...> wrote:
We bought Sharki 162 last fall and did not get a chance to sail her till now. Trouble is that sails and running rigging (I hope) are stored below deck and I have never seen the boat with the running rigging installed. Does anyone have a running rigging diagram or pictures that they would be
willing to share. The same question was asked in 2005, but the link in the answer is no longer active.
Thanks a bunch,
Pete



--
Aras Grinius


Webasto FCF 9000 in forward cabin - photo please?

Duane Siegfri
 

I'm replacing the forward cabin air conditioner and I'm wondering how well the Webasto FCF 9000 fits.  By the dimensions it seems like it might be difficult to get to the valves for the chain locker and bow thruster compartment.  

Would someone be kind enough to send me a photo or two?

Thanks, 
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: SM 2000 head backflow and holding tank leak -second attempt

Robert Nilsen
 

Thanks :-)

best regards
Robert


Re: SM 2000 head backflow and holding tank leak -second attempt

Mike Ondra
 

Robert,
On Aletes it is 1.5” copper, concurring with your 38mm.
Mike


On Jun 24, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Robert Nilsen <robert@...> wrote:

What a brilliant tip!
I have the same problem with a collapsed riser pipe in the forward holding tank, and will plan for glassing in a new glassfiber or epoxy pipe. 
Due to still lockdown wher my boat is, I'm not there to measure dimension of piping, but belive it's 38mm.
Can anyone confirm that? 

Best regards Robert 
S/Y Silfrania 
SM#53