Re: Main Furling gear box connection to foil
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Giovanni, we are arriving in Kilada on 11th, hope to launch on 17th and be afloat until 20th October, sailing at first in the Northern Cyclades and then wherever the wind takes us. Maybe our wakes will cross?
Ciao,
Ian
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 14:12 To: AMEL GROUP <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil ...perfect Ian ! In the while Alban from Amel Marin told me the same. Where are you ? We are saling Greek waters.
Ciao
Giovanni
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Re: Water maker Questions
Porter McRoberts
Great intel. Thank you all!
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Testing today. Porter Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS A54-152 WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206Www.fouribis.net
On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:00 AM, Craig Briggs via groups.io <sangaris@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPMs and Temperature reading
Jose Venegas
Thank you for the suggestions. I know that both thermostats are OK, they open before the water boils. I will make the test of the sensor/gauge with boiling water to see if it is a measurement problem. I like the idea of having a second measurement available and perhaps the infrared thermometer is the best because it can be used in other parts like the generator or the batteries.
Craig, the thermostat does two things. Open the outlet towards the heat exchanger and closes the pathway for recirculation. Removing the thermostat opens the outlet to the heat exchanger but leaves the path for recirculation open. Yes this should reduce the temperature in the sensor but may still leave the engine hotter by allowing recirculation. It is a good temporary solution when you have no spare thermostat. Unfortunately, Bonaire is full and they are not allowing any more boats. Now is even worse since Curaçao has developed a second wave of Covid19. Onle 32 cases but still increasing. We are awaiting for Cartagena to open but that may be more than a month away. Still, I hope our paths will cross soon. Jose Venegas Ipanema SM 2K 278 Seru Boca Marina, Curaçai
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Re: Ice makers
Jose Alegria
Jose Alegria Amel55 #03-MERIT +351918663037 Josealegr@...
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Re: Main Furling gear box connection to foil
...perfect Ian ! In the while Alban from Amel Marin told me the same. Where are you ? We are saling Greek waters. Ciao Giovanni
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Re: Main Furling gear box connection to foil
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Giovanni ,
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We took the sail off and disconnected the gearbox from the foil and then took the gearbox off the mast .
This allowed the foil to drop down and the very bottom could then be gently pulled aft just enough to use a saw on it .
Ian
On 4 Sep 2020, at 14:27, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:
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Re: Main Furling gear box connection to foil
Dear Jan & Judy, Do you remember their procedure to do that ? (Sail removed, lift down gear ecc ?) After a saling around the world always with trade winds from port side, wrong side for furling, this is the consequence even if with big caution. Many thanks for your prompt support. Giovanni
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Re: Ice makers
Hi Courtney,
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After seeing Delos fixing his we hired a car and drove to Darte yesterday in Fort de France, Martinique. They will not have any until October. Looking for a compact unit 220V. As we are in the process of converting to Lithium Penny now wants all the mod cons that she can have. Also looking forward to any recommendations for an ice maker, no doubt they are all still made in Chine. Very Best Barry and Penny “Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Sep 4, 2020, at 09:01, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:
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Ice makers
Cheers Courtney Trippin 54 #101
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Re: Water maker Questions
Not sure what your "green zone" translates to in bars as I have a gauge with numbers and 60 bars +/- is where these operate (actually I usually get good tds at 850 psi / 58 bars). These pumps typically deliver up to 69 bars / 1000 psi, which would be a fine pressure at which to test.
-- Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Main Furling gear box connection to foil
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Giovanni,
When we had the same problem after about 10 years and 50,000 miles the Amel team in Guadeloupe took about 2.5 cm off the bottom of the foil and drilled new holes.
One day I shall go up to the top of the mast when the main is up and see how many more times I can do that. If the length became really tight I'm sure there are other solutions, though none so easy.
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece ( to where we fly next week !)
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 09:07 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil Hi to all,
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Main Furling gear box connection to foil
Hi to all,
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Re: Water maker Questions
Hi Porter,
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Both brass fittings have just been replaced on the pump by me, in and out a few times. The high pressure side broke off completely and the low pressure/inlet had a hairline crack. I only discovered the hairline crack after it was all back in place. Getting the broken thread out was fun! The brass fittings that I used for replacement were thicker than the original. I did use tape, I will monitor this for now but will probably take it out again and reseal the brass fittings with some type of locktight. Could anyone tell me if I should I use Stainless Steel? I don’t like changing things, Olivier told me when we bought that we should keep everything the same. Thank’s for the information about not using tape. See photo below: Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. 17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Sep 3, 2020, at 22:22, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:
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Re: Water maker Questions
Porter McRoberts
Thanks Nick! I appreciate it. Yes. That’s the elbow. They have others in brass here too. They’ve worked up the pump with another brass one. And also used Teflon tape to seal the high pressure threads, I was told not to use Teflon by Dessalator, rather the Locktite 542. Which, when I use, it does not leak. Funny to have high pressure hydraulic fittings on one side, and garden hose variety fittings on the other side, both with the same pressure.
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They guys seem very confident in their assessment on the pump. Lots of other cat pumps lying around adding to the gravitas of their opinion. I’ll ask them to pressure test to 65 bar. I want a failure in their shop. Not the Tuamotus! Good luck with your Haulout. Porter Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS A54-152 WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206Www.fouribis.net
On Sep 3, 2020, at 5:58 PM, ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:
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Re: Water maker Questions
Hi Porter,
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When I bought Amelia, the 160 litre per hour 220v watermaker produced a fine mist of salt water. It turned out to be that Brass Elbow between the CAT pump and the pressure bulb that you refer to. There was a small pin hole! I went to “Watermaker Services” in Antigua and showed him the elbow. He said that fitting is not rated for high pressure and sold me a stainless one for $5. Never had a problem since. By the way he pumped up the bulb with some gas ( can not remember, what gas, nitrogen?) and said it should be pumped up ever couple of years. I asked him it’s purpose; he told me it was like a cushion or damper for the system when the CAT pump kicks in. So could be an easy fix... Nick Amelia in Leros getting ready to haul out and head home. AML 54-019
On 4 Sep 2020, at 05:22, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:
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Re: Water maker Questions
Porter McRoberts
Gary et all I’ve read this thread a bunch and it is super helpful. Thanks for all your insights, and others. I’ve removed our cat pump several times in the past week and it’s a real bear. Issue: leaking at high pressure from somewhere around the head. I’ve taken our 160 to a cat repair place here in Tahiti, thinking I found the leak and needed a new head. Long story short, they found a small hole in the brass elbow going up to the blue stabilization bulb. They think that’s the issue. I am skeptical. Since install and removal is several hours and horrible on the back I’d like to know if anyone knows what pressure the pump is rated for, and also what peak pressure I can reasonably expect to see when running the pump. It seems like 60-65 bar would be that number, aiming for 56-58 The guys at the shop pressure tested it to 30 bar with no leaks. I am asking them to retest to 60. They say that’s the maximum the pump is rated to. Is that true? What Bar is the low end of the green zone, and the high end of the green zone, assuming my guage is accurate, which I suspend mine not to be (we make 200+l/hr still well below the end of the green zone)? I’dlike this to be my last trip behind the generator for a while!!!
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPMs and Temperature reading
Hi José,
Next time just remove the thermostat (don't put in the spare). It is not too important anyway as it simply allows the engine to come up to temperature more quickly by restricting the cooling water flow - once the engine is hot the thermostat is irrelevant. So, with no thermostat you can clearly observe the flow of coolant by leaving the cap off. Then you can differentiate between a failed cooling water pump and a bad temperature sender (or connections in its circuit). As you noted, you had already eliminated a raw water problem. After you sort that out you can test the thermostats by putting them in boiling water and seeing if they open and maybe not have to order a new one (pretty unlikely you've got two failed ones). Going diving in Bonaire? I'm jealous. Ciao, Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Super Maramu Ballooner halyard hook
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Paul, I think you are correct in that it breaks when sideways load occurs which should not happen if everything is operating as designed. The nylon hook has little tolerance to this loading. In my case it was because the alloy locating tongue for the swivel had worn through. If you read the Amel instructions for ballooner hoisting you will see the need for very careful positioning of the foil track (and the swivel) which allows the hook to work. I did not know that this tongue was prone to wear and had many frustrating hoists of the ballooner when it was more luck than good management that had the halyard lock work. As I prepared for a Pacific voyage from New Zealand another owner made me aware of this small but vital item. But why did it wear through. Another discovery was the fact there is a nylon pencil or crayon in the track that the tongue is entered into. In my case this was missing through all my ownership to this point. Because it had never been there I had no way of knowing it was missing. I shared this information at the time. Until I found this the tongue continued to wear. So again Paul, you are correct and I fixed the symptom not the cause. However, I now have both and I am sure the alloy hook is doing no harm and I am protected from accidental loading. So folks, make sure your tongue and pencil/crayon are both in place and in good repair and enjoy your ballooner. Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand
On 03 September 2020 at 23:14 Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPMs and Temperature reading
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPMs and Temperature reading
t is perhaps a good idea to install a thermometer to control the temperature exhaust water . Then you have a reference .
Best Elja SM Balu 222 Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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