Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Hi Ken,
About the current draw from the batteries. Don’t forget you are running 6 pairs in parallel. So each battery only has to supply 80 Amps to get to 400 Amps. 80 Amps is not excessive, even for a AGM battery. It would be if you keep doing it for 10 minutes or more. So the battery bank is well laid out for supplying that kind of current. Your starter battery has a harder time starting the engine. The problem starts when your batteries get old. At that point the internal resistance of the pairs becomes uneven and you will see some batteries working much harder on the current draw then others. In case of AGM batteries, keep an eye on the individual voltages of your batteries if a pair gets out of balance it may be an indication of a bad battery. Isolate the pair and see what their voltage in rest is. Anything below 12.2 is bad for charged batteries. For lithium the BMS should take care of balancing the batteries and very few people know what these things do in the long run. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
Bryce Procter
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:08 PM +0800, "Brent Cameron" <brentcameron61@...> wrote:
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
Brent
On Jul 2, 2020, 2:22 PM -0400, aol.com@groups.io, wrote:
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Brent Cameron Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
Bryce Procter
How can I get hold of Joel? I believe he is the agent for an Amel a friend of mine is interested in.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
SV Seamaster II
SM 2000 467
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:22 AM +0800, "Courtney Gorman via groups.io" <Itsfun1@...> wrote:
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Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
I can order it online from Gwen. I also now see that it is available online from Volspec in the UK https://www.volvopentashop.com/volspec/en-GB
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 21 July 2020 00:18 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor
The contact info I have for Gwen is: Gwen Marine Service in France +33 05.46.41.68.41
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:00 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
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Re: Masse negative leak
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Nick,
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On our boat when I connect a cable from my laptop headphone socket to the aux input on the stereo the negative mass lights up. Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ngtnewington Newington via groups.io Sent: 21 July 2020 07:03 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Masse negative leak Back sailing and all well aboard Amelia here in the windy Cyclades. Since launching a few days ago I have found that the “ Masse” leak to the bonding system lights up on the negative side. So far I have checked 1. both WC Motors 2. All the fans 3. Fridge system water cooling pump There are clearly many potential candidates but the most likely???? Bulge pump? Windlasses? 24v alternator? Electric furlers?? Any ideas as to the most likely candidates? Nick Amelia sailing towards Siros. Greece. AML 54 -019 -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Masse negative leak
Back sailing and all well aboard Amelia here in the windy Cyclades.
Since launching a few days ago I have found that the “ Masse” leak to the bonding system lights up on the negative side. So far I have checked 1. both WC Motors 2. All the fans 3. Fridge system water cooling pump There are clearly many potential candidates but the most likely???? Bulge pump? Windlasses? 24v alternator? Electric furlers?? Any ideas as to the most likely candidates? Nick Amelia sailing towards Siros. Greece. AML 54 -019
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Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?
Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Heinz,
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Your batteries might not be able to handle the current draw of the Bow Thruster. Take a look at the current draw during Bow Thruster use, and also look at the voltage while using the bow thruster.... Try charging your batteries completely, turn on the Genset, and your charger... Then try the Bow Thruster again. If it works, your problem is found.. Ken SM2K#262 Aquarius
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 03:32 AM, heinz@... wrote:
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Stuart,
Though I am not completely sure why they would install two 500A shunts, the fact that they are in parallel probably answers the question. When I use my Bow Thruster (which I sometimes refer to as the "Amel Battery Killer") in Aquarius we draw just over 400 amps. When I first bought Aquarius, I was not looking at the amp meter when docking, it was all hands on deck. I knew the Bow Thruster used a lot of current, but I also thought that the engine is running, and the 100 amp alternator is suppling a lot of the power... Wrong... When you are docking your engine is running at low RPM, and thus you will not get much current out of the alternator. O, and even if I had my GenSet running, my charger will only charge at 100 Amps MAX. So, I would still draw 300Amps, and that is still a massive current out of the batteries, especially lead acid batteries. During my daily routines I would try to keep the draw on our AGM batteries less than 30 amps... Didn't think much about the bow thruster, but it's one more reason to limit the amount of time you use the bow thruster. Now to answer the question... I would think that Amel did this because at some point (Probably due to the bow thruster) there is the possibility that the current draw exceeds 500A. This would mean that the two 500Amp Shunts would have to be added to get the total amps in or out of the batteries. Try looking at your amp meter while you use the Bow Thruster... In the A55 you might see up to 500amps. I see that the A55 is fitted with a 12 HP Bow "Thirsty" motor. That would be at the very least 380Amps! I would be really interested to hear your current draw when using your A55 bow thruster... Please let me know. Thanks, Ken Powers Aquarius SM2000#262 Looking to put her on the hard soon in Krabi Thailand
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Re: Any data on B&G displays
Stephan, Can you take a photo of the fuse location? Bill
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 4:01 PM Stefan and Anne Deerberg <stefan.deerberg@...> wrote:
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Re: Dive Compressor on a SM
Thomas Kleman
Paul- I'd appreciate your contact details plus those of your Coltri contact. Could you send a pic of your installation also to Lorient422atgmail ?
Thanks Tom and Kirstin SM2K 422 Hanalei Bay Kauii
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Re: Any data on B&G displays
Hi Elja!
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Today we checked the processor Blackbox. There we found a 50 cent blowing out fuse. That’s it. The system is working probably and we placed a spare fuse for the next failure with tape outside on the processor box. If you got some of these problems with your new old system again, just check the fuse. After 18 years they are allowed to blow away sometimes. Good luck Stefan SM OYA, 373, lonesome in the Tobago Cays Mobil: +49 172 7757444 stefan.deerberg@...
On 18. Jul 2020, at 09:40, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:
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Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor
The contact info I have for Gwen is: Gwen Marine Service in France commande@... +33 05.46.41.68.41
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:00 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
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Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor
Mohammad Shirloo
It took us a month to figure out and had to ship to many different places in Greece, before we could put our hands on it. When it comes to electrical parts that may have been modified, it is best to contact Volvo France and Amel. The main Volvo factory is completely unaware of the modifications.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:55 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor
Mohammad,
Many thanks for your very swift reply! I wish I had known that before shipping the part to Grenada ☹. Next time I want to order a part from Volvo I’ll tell them its an Amel!
Cheers, Paul
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Paul. We had the same exact issue.
Volvo sends their standard non-isolated engine to Volvo France, which does the ground isolation for Amel. This process does not get recorded to the serial number of the engine. Therefore, if you order a part from the serial number that Volvo France has changed, you will receive the wrong part.
The correct part number is 863169 CAPTEUR PRESSION. We ordered from Gwen Marine Service in France as recommended by Amel. They were 78 Euros each, 3 years ago. We also ordered a spare.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Hi all,
I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.
My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model The sensor p/n is 3545696
I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Mohammad,
Many thanks for your very swift reply! I wish I had known that before shipping the part to Grenada ☹. Next time I want to order a part from Volvo I’ll tell them its an Amel!
Cheers, Paul
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: 20 July 2020 19:44 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor
Hi Paul. We had the same exact issue.
Volvo sends their standard non-isolated engine to Volvo France, which does the ground isolation for Amel. This process does not get recorded to the serial number of the engine. Therefore, if you order a part from the serial number that Volvo France has changed, you will receive the wrong part.
The correct part number is 863169 CAPTEUR PRESSION. We ordered from Gwen Marine Service in France as recommended by Amel. They were 78 Euros each, 3 years ago. We also ordered a spare.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Hi all,
I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.
My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model The sensor p/n is 3545696
I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Volvo oil pressure sensor
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Paul. We had the same exact issue.
Volvo sends their standard non-isolated engine to Volvo France, which does the ground isolation for Amel. This process does not get recorded to the serial number of the engine. Therefore, if you order a part from the serial number that Volvo France has changed, you will receive the wrong part.
The correct part number is 863169 CAPTEUR PRESSION. We ordered from Gwen Marine Service in France as recommended by Amel. They were 78 Euros each, 3 years ago. We also ordered a spare.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure sensor
Hi all,
I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.
My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model The sensor p/n is 3545696
I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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Volvo oil pressure sensor
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Hi all,
I ordered a replacement oil pressure sensor from a UK Volvo dealer, Volspec. The engineer on the boat who was to do the replacement (as I am not on the boat at present) tells me the part sent is incorrect as it has only one connector pin whereas the old one that was removed has two. Volspec insists that the part is correct.
My engine is a D3-110i-C, 2008 model The sensor p/n is 3545696
I would be interested to know if anyone has had any similar experience, or would be able to confirm if the sensor has 1 or 2 pins.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: SM 1990 drive unit seals
Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi
Hi Mitchell, Thanks!! Our fibreglass did not have the aluminium part, at least not since we have the boat, we have taken it apart many times in the 20 years we have her, probably Amel made the change after our hull. We changed all the bearings and gears in the upper part, but didn’t touch the lower. Have you changed the viscosity of the oil you use or do you still use the 15W 40? All the best, Helen and Kostas on Meditation SM 29 of 1990
On 20 Jul 2020, at 12:03 AM, Mitchell Petersen <Mitchell.j.petersen@...> wrote:
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Re: 110 HP Yanmar raw water pump access
Porter, Volvo has the same thing that was shown for Yanmar. Volvo Penta Impeller Removal Tool 3843948 for D3 using impeller 21951352
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:31 AM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
stephane"at"pochon.com
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:50 PM Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:
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