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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus
Yes, For the 54 we are finalizing a design that will look like the following. I expect that it will mount slightly higher than the original where there is 10mm clearance between the Cockpit drain and the bulkhead insulation. The cockpit drain will be in front of the Blue Coupling. It will ship with a new 35mm hose that connects to the Primary Saltwater Manifold. Other issues are still being worked out and a test install will be done on a 54. It will likely be Jan or Feb of next year before the 54 is available to purchase. The SM should be available sooner. I need to find a SM owner willing to test the install before it is available for ordering. Someone in Europe would be best. Below is the 54 design as it is currently:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:25 PM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote: Dear Bill,
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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus
Stefan Schaufert
Dear Bill,
thanks a lot for this project. I am interested. But mine looks a bit different (1 connector right of the cockpit drain, 3 (4) left, no connector behind the cockpit drain). That is why I like to see it in advance. Best regards and a Merry Christmas to all Stefan A 54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Bahamas
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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus
Peter Tiner
Yes interested.
Thanks Bill \Peter SY Maiken A54 #52
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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus
I have created some confusion regarding SMs. Early model SMs have only a Primary Saltwater Manifold. Later model SMs and all 54s have a Primary Saltwater Manifold and a Secondary Saltwater Manifold. At this time I am only working on the Secondary Saltwater Manifolds. Bill
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 8:30 AM Stefano Biffi <cptbiffi@...> wrote:
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Re: A54 bow thruster seal replacement?
Scott SV Tengah
Perfect. I remember seeing photos before but couldn't remember where. Your pics and Bill's pics help immensely. Thank you. As an aside - our flexible coupling cracked after about 2 years. Did you have the same issue? Our bow thruster is much more powerful after the lithium upgrade because there is almost no voltage drop. Sleipner said that they spec theirs to expect 21-22 volts or thereabouts under load and we are closer to 24.5-25. This may be a hidden "disadvantage" of lithium.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 00:25 Peter Tiner <peter.tiner@...> wrote: Hi
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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus
Stefano Biffi
Thanks Bill, I am interested
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Ciao Stefano N’EVEREST Super Maramu 185 Dry dock Magra river Italy
Il giorno 14 dic 2020, alle ore 15:10, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> ha scritto:
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Re: Amel 55 generator autostart?
Joerg Esdorn
Billy, I’ve never used it but during the Amel training, I was told it comes on at 70% state of charge. One issue is that it will always run the generator for 2 hours once it is triggered. Shutting off the generator doesn’t avoid the two hours. Cheers. Joerg
Joerg Esdorn A55 # 53 Kincsem on the hard in Vigo, Spain
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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus
We have done some measurements and have a solution for the SM. We are still working on the A-54. Hopefully, within a week, we will have a tentative solution for the A-54 and will release ordering information for both. Bill
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 6:41 AM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
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Re: Watermaker: Dessalator D60 Freedom Pump Problem
Thomas Peacock
We also went through some D60 blues a year ago. Fortunately, it happened in Martinique, and the problem was quickly fixed.
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When was the last time you used the system before changing the membranes? Just a few days, or had it bee a while? Was it working 100%? What prompted the membrane replacement? I believe that our problem was quickly solved by the techs and was some sort of seal problem. Works perfectly now. Tom Peacock SM 240 Aletes Chesapeake Bay
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Re: Watermaker: Dessalator D60 Freedom Pump Problem
Hi Woody,
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Is the low pressure pump primed and working? If the HP pump is not fed with water from the LP pump it will automatically shut down. Nick Amelia AML 54-019 Leros
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Re: Watermaker: Dessalator D60 Freedom Pump Problem
It might be the brushes on the electric motor that has been worn down. You find 4 of those under plastic covers, replace them and life should get back to normal. If your electric motor is dead Dessalator offers you a new one for €1400. They also offer a kit with lipseals and o-rings for your high pressure pump that might be needed Regards Ann-Sofie & Jonas S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998
14/12/2020 kl. 12:11 skrev Alan "Woody" Wood <woody@...>:
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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus
Hi Bill and Ameliens, Interested...Thanks for your efforts on this project! I’m specially interested in the primary Manyfold. Marry Christmas and Healthy New Year to everybody; stay save Ruedi SY WASABI A54 #55 Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Datum: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2020 um 17:10 An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Betreff: [AmelYachtOwners] Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe. Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold: There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387. I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find. The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. Thanks, Bill
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Watermaker: Dessalator D60 Freedom Pump Problem
Alan "Woody" Wood
Re: Dessalator D60 Freedom: 1996 No: 630046 Type: MBT1141L
I wondered if anyone could help resolve this issue?
I replaced the membranes a few weeks ago but since then the pump doesn't seem to work - it just doesn't pump water to the membranes. I've tried priming the pump by pouring water directly into the intake (it took about two litres when switched off - not sure where it all went) but it barely draws a dribble when switched on, even though the motor seems to be working fine.
I didn't touch the pump at all when changing the membranes so could it be the high pressure hose? Is there anything I might try like testing for air leaks? I looked at the exploded diagram and there doesn't seem to be a diaphragm to check so frankly I'm baffled :/ Cheers
Woody
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Re: A54 bow thruster seal replacement?
Peter Tiner
Hi
If I understand you right you are about to take the lower part out. If so you need to put pressure onto the pipe and not onto the shaft. Use a thick walled pipe and a plate on top of that and then place the puller bolt onto the plate leaving the shaft untouched. Please also see thread "Bow thruster motor switch" #54459. There are some pics there and if you like I can send you more. Good luck! \Peter sy Maiken A54 #52
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Re: A54 bow thruster seal replacement?
Scott SV Tengah
Ok, we're now digging into it and here's where we're stuck:
We removed the two large bolts that go into the shaft and it seems the shaft does not want to drop even after some copious PB Blaster. Are we missing something or is it just that the lower unit / motor junction is heavily corroded? Bill - did you remove the motor and use a puller to apply force directly to the shaft itself? The mechanic working with me is a bit afraid to put too much force on the shaft itself. Thanks! -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Amel 55 generator autostart?
Billy Newport
Hi,
Anyone used the generator auto start? When does it start? I'm running a test now, letting the batteries drop down. I'm guessing its voltage triggered. Anyone know what voltage the genset starts at? Just wondering when to abort the test. Billy (Amel 55#56)
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Re: Adjusting Ultraflex steering cables?
Hi Olivier,
can these cables be ordered? I heard that they are no longer available... we also need to change the steering cables before we take off again in a couple of years -- Carina SV Ultimo Amel 54 No 165
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Re: Gib Track Plugs
Drew Gaffney
A number of our plugs were missing. We cut pieces of fiberglass sail stiffener rods of the correct diameter and put them in with adhesive. They’re been there for 5 seasons and are holding up well. Most sail lofts will have “ends” that are too short for sails, but can be used to cut the plugs.
Drew Gaffney Revelation, SM2K 390 Carloforte, Sardinia
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Re: VHF Cable Replacement
Scott SV Tengah
I did the same. New RG-8X from new Shakespeare antenna all the way to the nav station. The original Amel way is to have a junction at the base of the mast, presumably so you can remove the mast without having to take out the antenna wire. If I ever need to remove the mast, I'll cut the coax and put the junction on. Earlier I couldn't communicate with the admiral in a dinghy 300 meters away and now we can hear USCG broadcasts up to 200nm offshore.
Connection at the antenna was taped with self-amalgamating rubber tape and then covered with 3M electrical tape. I even zip tied the electrical tape for good measure. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Adjusting Ultraflex steering cables?
Scott SV Tengah
Also Olivier - what do you think about the play on the flange/joint where the cable goes through the stringer? We have put a bit over 20 thousand nautical miles on it, so I assume this is a wear item that may just need replacement? Or is there an adjustment procedure?
A bit gun shy now, so figured I'd ask what may be a simple question vs. risk breaking something else! -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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