Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
John Clanton
Craig,
You are exactly right about leaving the helm for this exercise. I was single handed for a good portion of my 2018 season and got caught more than once not starting the genset in time. It created unnecessary excitement. Now, when going into a new harbor, I begin the process before getting to the first marker to allow enough time. It is much easier with crew on board as that is a top training activity, and they are responsible for setting it up.
John W. Clanton S/V Devereux A55, No. 65 Antibes, France Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information is strictly prohibited.
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Re: Any data on B&G displays
Hi Bill,
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Yes that looks similar to my board Stefan
On 21. Jul 2020, at 16:46, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Craig, I have known Amel to "learn" and add recommendations that did not exist 30 years ago. I don't know when the generator recommendation started, but it in fact does exist. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 9:15 AM Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via groups.io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io> wrote: Hi John,
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Re: Masse negative leak
Nick, I did it by unbolting at least one of the main switches and pulling it aside. You can also remove the positive wire from the battery bank to the switch by unbolting it at the junction block inside the battery compartment and also remove the positive wire on the starter battery. An alternative in the battery bank which may be easier is to remove the positive wire from the battery post each of your 6 pairs of batteries (the one to the junction block). Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 11:23 PM ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Hi John,
I stand corrected, thanks. That you must leave the helm, go below and take, what?, 2-3 minutes to fire everything up, then return to begin docking strikes me as a procedure destined to be ignored. Be that as it may, I can say with absolute certainty that Amel never gave that instruction for the SN ;-) Cheers, Craig
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
John Clanton
Craig,
I cannot speak to other models, but in the factory handover of the 55, they made it clear to fire the genset and both chargers prior to starting docking maneuvers. I am not on the boat now, but believe I have also seen that instruction in the owners manual.
John W. Clanton S/V Devereux A55, No. 65 Antibes, France Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information is strictly prohibited.
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Billy Newport
I just looked on my 55 and there is a 675A master fuse under the nav seat. I used my Fluke to measure the current coming out of that fuse and the bow thruster doesn't draw power from there when I ran it which surprises me but the Fluke doesn't lie. So, there must be another 24V run to the sail locker. I'll try again tonight and measure the current up there instead.
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Re: SM 1990 drive unit seals
Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi
Hi Mitchell,
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Thanks!! We never had the oil seal...we have taken it apart many times in the 20 years we have her...that is unless it was removed before we bought her....:/ It would be a great help though if you could point it out for us on the plans. We always managed to make the seal with just the gasket maker.... the fibreglass trumpet is not in a good condition anymore, perhaps that’s the problem! Did you make any repairs to that? Best regards, Helen and Kostas SM 29 of 1990 Sent from my
On 22 Jul 2020, at 9:13 AM, Mitchell Petersen <Mitchell.j.petersen@...> wrote:
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Re: Rub rail purchase
Great, thanks, Pat.
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Kent Kent Robertson S/V Kristy karkauai@... USA cell: 828-234-6819
On Jul 22, 2020, at 7:09 AM, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...> wrote:
Craig, So the rub rail will only fit the SM and Santorin. Thanks for that info. Pat Shenanigans #123
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Re: TV Lift Amel 54 - replacing wireless by manual switch
David my buttons face forward in the open cabinet just forward of the nav station they are white
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
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From: David Crisp <david@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2020 12:29 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] TV Lift Amel 54 - replacing wireless by manual switch Courtney,
I have checked everywhere and there are no manual buttons anywhere for the lift. -- David Crisp SV Wilna Grace Amel 54 #58
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Re: Rub rail purchase
Patrick McAneny
Craig, So the rub rail will only fit the SM and Santorin. Thanks for that info.
Pat Shenanigans #123
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
James Watkins
I have a Maramu hull 185 undergoing a refit and wonder if anyone has a source for a rub rail replacement. There are some going to be made for a Super Maramu and I was wondering if the Maramu is the same. Thanks
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From: Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:39 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Hi Ken,
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Re: SM 1990 drive unit seals
Mitchell Petersen
Hi Helen, I miss read what you were doing. I thought you were referring to the lower unit. As far as your oil leak goes. There is a 85x110x12mm oil seal with stainless steel spring at the top of the lower unit where the trumpet looking fibreglass thing marries with the lower unit. I believe this oil seal is designed to retain the oil, should this leak as a backup you have the silicone gasket you are using where the upper unit is bolted to the fibreglass trumpet looking thing. I would guess this oil seal has been dislodged or damaged when the upper unit was repaired/ reinstalled. The lower unit needs to be removed to replace this seal. This is not a difficult task once you have the upper unit off but the boat obviously has to be out of the water. For economy I just replaced the oil with engine oil as originally recommend by Amel. When examined all gears top and bottom had very little where so I believe engine oil is sufficient to use in this light application. It is my opinion damage caused to these units is most likely often from miss aligned engines rather then anything to do with oil grade. Let me know if it is unclear where the oil seal is located and I will mark it up on the plan. Mitchell
On Mon., 20 Jul. 2020, 5:17 pm Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi, <helenmi57@...> wrote:
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Re: TV Lift Amel 54 - replacing wireless by manual switch
David Crisp
I have searched every millimetre of the saloon and searched again and there is no manual switch for the TV lift system anywhere. The manual switch must be something added in later builds to mine.
-- David Crisp SV Wilna Grace Amel 54 #58
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Re: TV Lift Amel 54 - replacing wireless by manual switch
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
We have one in the cupboard immediately aft of the TV.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Crisp
Sent: 22 July 2020 08:30 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] TV Lift Amel 54 - replacing wireless by manual switch
Courtney, -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Hi Ken,
While you say, "Thank you Bill (Rouse) for a fact I didn't know, and I don't think that most Amel owners were aware of: That Amel suggests owners to run the genset every time the bow thruster is used.", Amel absolutely did not suggest that to SN owners regarding their bow thrusters. Frankly, I kinda wonder about it for other models, too. If I'm using the BT for a long time (like fighting a cross wind) I may rev up the engine in neutral but not for just nudging into a slip with short bursts. I would posit that the boats are designed to be able to use the BT for normal docking without having to run the genset. Cheers, Craig
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Re: TV Lift Amel 54 - replacing wireless by manual switch
David Crisp
Courtney,
I have checked everywhere and there are no manual buttons anywhere for the lift. -- David Crisp SV Wilna Grace Amel 54 #58
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Re: Masse negative leak
Thanks Bill,
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Alas it is not the Macerators. I hate working in the space for the main battery on/off as it is so easy to short out the positive to negative with a ratchet handle... maybe I can cover the positive with plastic sheet or something... Nick Stern to in Finikas Syros waiting for the Meltemi to ease just a tad... Amelia AML54-019
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Arno, and Bill,
The fact is that large current draws on your batteries will kill them faster. Yes, a battery can supply a lot of current, but if you use this capability you shorten their life over time. During large current draws Arno suggests that all the batteries are equally suppling their %, but I might suggest that not all the batteries are created equal, some pairs may be supplying 110Amps and others much less. Just like pallbearers, not all hands are supplying the same force. Thank you Bill for a fact I didn't know, and I don't think that most Amel owners were aware of: That Amel suggests owners to run the genset every time the bow thruster is used. Running the Genset does makes sense given the amount of current required for the bow thruster, and it also implies that Amel is, and was aware, that the bow thruster draw could be too high for the batteries alone. But, these responses do not Answer the original QUESTION; Why are two 500Amp shunts on the A55? And it does not Answer my question which I think will shed some light on the original question: How many Amps the A55 Bow thruster draws? The original question, about the A55 battery electronics going into shut down, then coming back online after a few seconds. This is actually how I would think the electronics on a good Amel with bad batteries should work. If you bring the voltage on your 24V batteries below 24V the Amel should go into shut down to protect the batteries ( The owner probably even has the capability to set the shut down voltage). Then a few seconds, after the voltage increases above 24V (or what ever voltage was set for shutdown), the electronics should turn the 24V house power back on. Personally I would also like to know the current draw others are seeing on their Amel's. We draw about 400Amps when we light up the bow "thirsty" thruster. PS: Arno, I had 4 pairs of batteries in my SM battery compartment, the A54 or the A55 might have a bigger compartment which fits 6 pairs. I tried to fit 5 pairs, but they didn't fit (I had Vicron 110AH AGM's 8 pieces in my battery bank). So, on Aquarius I was looking at 400 Amps / 4 pairs = 100Amps per pair if everything being equal (which never is). I believe that's about the MAX for my old batteries. Ken Aquarius SM2K #262 Tomorrow will be hauled out in Krabi Thailand
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Re: Rub rail purchase
Here's what Joel said in his post:
"There were a couple of different rub rails for the Mango and just one, all but certain, on the Sharks and Maramu. They share nothing in common with the Santorin and Super Maramu insert. JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 "
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