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Re: Loose bolt on rudder hinge SM2K

Duane Siegfri
 

Derick,

What is the purpose of the bolt?  Does it screw into the skeg?  Is the skeg internally threaded for the bolt?

Thanks for posting this, I was very curious.

Duane
Wanderer SM #477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Gary,

Aletes will be moving from Atigua to BVI next week. If you are there I’d like to meet you.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:01 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo





Gary, when should we switch to your new site? I have registered, but most folks still seem to be using Yahoo.

Jamie Wendell



s/v Phantom Amel 54



On Monday, January 25, 2016 6:07 PM, "@svadagio [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:





Hi Jim,



You fill out your model in your profile section. You can also add it to your signature which appears on every post.

It would be a manual effort, but not much of one, to assemble a simple spreadsheet of user names by model or model to user name and have that available.



Gary W.

S/V Adagio SM 209

BVI











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Re: Loose bolt on rudder hinge SM2K

Derick Gates
 

I removed the loose bolt, and found it to be much shorter (10mm) than was warranted.  I have replaced it with an 8 X 30 mm stainless steel bolt, which screwed in tightly.  

Derick
SM2K #400 Brava

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

alainfeuillet@...
 

Hi Gary,
Ok to help you as moderator on this basis. I guess you will tell me when and how to start with the job.
Alain (PILGRIM)

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Gary, when should we switch to your new site? I have registered, but most folks still seem to be using Yahoo.
Jamie Wendell
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54


On Monday, January 25, 2016 6:07 PM, "gary@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Jim,

You fill out your model in your profile section. You can also add it to your signature which appears on every post.
It would be a manual effort, but not much of one, to assemble a simple spreadsheet of user names by model or model to user name and have that available.

Gary W.
S/V Adagio SM 209
BVI




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

Gary Wells
 

Hi Jim,

You fill out your model in your profile section. You can also add it to your signature which appears on every post.
It would be a manual effort, but not much of one, to assemble a simple spreadsheet of user names by model or model to user name and have that available.

Gary W.
S/V Adagio SM 209
BVI


Loose bolt on rudder hinge SM2K

Derick Gates
 

Hi all,


I have Brava on the hard to renew her antifouling, and I noticed that the middle hinge on the rudder has a large bolt countersunk into the hinge.  On the port side this bolt is tight, but on the starboard side the bolt turns and turns without tightening, nor does it extract when you try to loosen it.  I have posted a picture of the loose bolt and the hinge in the photos section under "rudder hinge SM2K".


Does anyone know the function of these bolts (Olivier?) and their importance?  I do not want to take measures to extract the loose bolt and perhaps replace it without some foreknowledge.


Derick


SM2K#400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello again Gary,

I was wondering! So yes, I selected them all !
Thanks again !!!

Alexandre




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On Mon, 1/25/16, @svadagio [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016, 9:26 AM


 









Alexandre,
Great :)  but umm, I forgot a piece
of the puzzle there.  When you are on the board itself,
there is a "Notify" button at each category level.
You do have to turn that on which allows you to pick and
choose which categories, or even which individual topics,
you wish be notified of.  In our case it's probably
best to to go through and toggle them all on, but on some
boards people may only want to hear about their individaul
kind of pickup and individual sports team or
whatever.
Look for the
"Notify" button at the bottom of the topics list
next to "New Topic".
Gary W.S/V Adagio, SM
209BVI












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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

Gary Wells
 

Alexandre,

Great :)  but umm, I forgot a piece of the puzzle there.  When you are on the board itself, there is a "Notify" button at each category level. You do have to turn that on which allows you to pick and choose which categories, or even which individual topics, you wish be notified of.  In our case it's probably best to to go through and toggle them all on, but on some boards people may only want to hear about their individaul kind of pickup and individual sports team or whatever.

Look for the "Notify" button at the bottom of the topics list next to "New Topic".

Gary W.
S/V Adagio, SM 209
BVI



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

Jim Watkins
 

One addition to the members page would be to list the members model as it could help direct communication between owners with similar models.

Best Regards 

Jim Watins  Maramu 181 ACT II  

On Jan 25, 2016, at 4:09 PM, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Alain,


The moderators fundamentally have the right to mess with other peoples' messages.  In a good way :)

It would be important to keep messages in their correct or appropriate categories so moderators can move them between subjects.  The same with pictures and files.
You would have the ability to hide or delete offensive material and send the user a warning.
You would be be to take two or more similar discussion topics and merge them into one for ease of search and likewise if a discussion takes a turn toward a different subject you can split out those posts and create a new topic.
Answering questions, maybe (although in this group I'd never ever expect to) handling a complaint, and deleting any spam.
You can also "lock" topics; meaning no else can add to it until it's unlocked. This will be useful if we have, for instance, a reference topic with a list if part numbers or sources or the like and we need it to not get lost in a discussion. It would only be updated with your consent to keep it clean and relevant.
You can "sticky" a topic, meaning it will always be presented at the top of the topics list, no matter how many additional messages might show up.  A 'stickied' message might contain all the links we need to point to important resources like bow thruster maintenance instructions, Polars, places to get maintenance performed that are familiar with Amels and other data we don;t want to get buried.  
You can also set up and handle any Polls (surveys) based on the group's requests. 

I'm probably leaving stuff out, but I also need to say that until the board gets up and running full time there will be very little to do except practice.  I'll try to help facilitate that. Once we get a hundred or so people using the board there will be stuff to do and if we have a thousand people it will take enough time that we should bring in two more moderators.  

All along, the need to grow topics, expand and refine categories and rearrange the structure is easily handled without losing any data.  

Let me know what you think.  

Gary W.
SM 209, "Adagio"
BVI




Re: Changes to Yahoo

Gary Wells
 

Hi Alain,

The moderators fundamentally have the right to mess with other peoples' messages.  In a good way :)

It would be important to keep messages in their correct or appropriate categories so moderators can move them between subjects.  The same with pictures and files.
You would have the ability to hide or delete offensive material and send the user a warning.
You would be be to take two or more similar discussion topics and merge them into one for ease of search and likewise if a discussion takes a turn toward a different subject you can split out those posts and create a new topic.
Answering questions, maybe (although in this group I'd never ever expect to) handling a complaint, and deleting any spam.
You can also "lock" topics; meaning no else can add to it until it's unlocked. This will be useful if we have, for instance, a reference topic with a list if part numbers or sources or the like and we need it to not get lost in a discussion. It would only be updated with your consent to keep it clean and relevant.
You can "sticky" a topic, meaning it will always be presented at the top of the topics list, no matter how many additional messages might show up.  A 'stickied' message might contain all the links we need to point to important resources like bow thruster maintenance instructions, Polars, places to get maintenance performed that are familiar with Amels and other data we don;t want to get buried.  
You can also set up and handle any Polls (surveys) based on the group's requests. 

I'm probably leaving stuff out, but I also need to say that until the board gets up and running full time there will be very little to do except practice.  I'll try to help facilitate that. Once we get a hundred or so people using the board there will be stuff to do and if we have a thousand people it will take enough time that we should bring in two more moderators.  

All along, the need to grow topics, expand and refine categories and rearrange the structure is easily handled without losing any data.  

Let me know what you think.  

Gary W.
SM 209, "Adagio"
BVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks so much Gary for your reply and good work, just did the change!

Have a great day, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Islands



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On Mon, 1/25/16, @svadagio [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016, 8:53 AM


 









Hello Alexandre,
In order to receive automatic emails
with updates from the board do this procedure:
After logging in click on
"Profile"
Then find "Modify Profile"
and from that drop-down menu select
"Notifications"
You will see this information in the
first pane:
+++++++ Receive forum
newsletters, announcements and important notifications by
email.
 Turn notification on
when you post or reply to a topic.
 When sending
notification of a reply to a topic, send the post in the
email (but please don't reply to these
emails.)

For topics and boards I've requested notification
on, notify me:   Instantly  Instantly - but only for the first unread
reply  Daily  Weekly   +++++
Check the 2nd and 3rd boxes to turn on email
notifications and then select from the drop-down instant,
daily or weekly emails.
Hope that helps!
Gary W.S/V Adagio SM 209BVI











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Re: Changes to Yahoo

Gary Wells
 

Hello Alexandre,

In order to receive automatic emails with updates from the board do this procedure:

After logging in click on "Profile"

Then find "Modify Profile" and from that drop-down menu select "Notifications"

You will see this information in the first pane:

+++++++
 Receive forum newsletters, announcements and important notifications by email.
 Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic.
 When sending notification of a reply to a topic, send the post in the email (but please don't reply to these emails.)

For topics and boards I've requested notification on, notify me:   Instantly  Instantly - but only for the first unread reply  Daily  Weekly   
+++++

Check the 2nd and 3rd boxes to turn on email notifications and then select from the drop-down instant, daily or weekly emails.

Hope that helps!

Gary W.
S/V Adagio SM 209
BVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

Gary Wells
 

Hi Ian and Judy,

The Amelowners BBS is an all new system, completely independent from Yahoo groups. As such it requires a registration process which means basically signing up all over again.  
When you go to the amelowners.net page, click on "Register" and create your user name and password.  It will ask you for your email at that time.
The board itself sends you an email just to confirm you're a real human instead of an automatic hacking machine (called a 'bot") and you should be able to click on the link within the email and validate your registration.

Once the account is valid you can log on and off at will.  You can also complete the "Profile" sections and include as much information about you, your boat, your travels and your interests as you might wish to publicly share.

Hope that helps.  Let me know what else you might need.

Gary W.
S/V Adagio SM 209
BVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Grounding

Paul Osterberg
 

Problem with my installation:
The ground cable behind the chart table is now disconnected. I checked that the ca 8 mm thick had contact with the copper strip in the aft lazaret, so that's fine, BUT it was also connected to the grund strap in the BILGE, Where do I find the connection between the copper strip in the aft lazaret and the ground strap in the bilge?
Then all ground connection behind the chart table was to the thick ground cable from the aft copper strap, they are not connected to the ground strap in the Bilge.
Any one that can give me some light on this?
Paul S/Y Kerpa SM #259


Re: wind map

greatketch@...
 

If you haven't seen that one, you might have missed this one, a bit better, I think.

Windyty, wind forecast

Bill Kinney
SM shopping
currently SOB (Some Other Boat)
http://www.fetchinketch.net

wind map

william_maffei@...
 

Hey everyone -


Just wanted to share this link that I find interesting/helpful. It is an animated graphic of current wind conditions around the world. Smooth sailing! 


earth :: a global map of wind, weather, and ocean conditions


Cheers,


Bill Maffei 

SM #195

It's all Good



Re: Vinyl overhead covering

jjjk12s@...
 

Jeff,

 

I would recommend 3M autotrim spray adhesive as an alternative to sikaflex on the basis it is much less messy to work with and in my experince has been fine.

 

I've redone all my headliner twice. argghhh Both times with 3M spray adhesive but the first time with locally sourced vinyl. That gave up after a year in the tropics. The second time I used Naugahyde brand vinyl with non-migrating plasticisers. The problem with vinyl coming down is not just about the glue. The problem in hot weather is also the plasticisers in the vinyl migrating into the glue to turn it into a gooey mess. Naugahyde with 3M has been great for the past two years with my boat based in a hot and humid place with the deck often too hot to walk on in bare feet.

 

A previous owner of my boat did partial vinyl repairs with sikaflex and it was a total pain to remove.

 

My only caveat would be whether the original vinyl has fully non migratory plasticisers, which may be Phil's experience.

 

John, Maramu #91 Popeye

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Gary,

How do I do, to receive automatically the new post/questions/etc?
Just like the way I receive them with Yahoo Amel Forum?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 1/23/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, January 23, 2016, 6:53 AM


 













Hi Gary,
                     As something of a
dinosaur in the tech world I am only just catching up on
this. I tried to log onto
www.amelowners.net but
I need an activation email and  user name and password.
Can you tell me how to get these ?
  Thanks for all your efforts, by the way. 



Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Greece




Amel Yacht Owners - Index

www.amelowners.net

Amel Yacht Owners - Index










From:
amelyachtowners@...
<amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of
@svadagio [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

Sent: 17 January 2016 21:55

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to
Yahoo
 





Greetings :)



Been a busy week for us as we had guests aboard and we
playing tourist guide through the BVIs.  Not much chance to
get anything done until yesterday but I was able to make
some additions.



For your review:
All messages from the Yahoo board have been captured
through yesterday. I can do that at will and append the
document now.
I uploaded and made available all these messages in
both .pdf and .html.  You can download them and own the
entire Yahoo group dialogue from day one.  It is an immense
document and searching it takes a long time on a slow
machine.  I think the web document
(.html) is faster. Someday, when someone has a week with
nothing to do, it would be nice to trim out about 900,000
words of spurious html markup from all these messages.  I
think the finished document would be quite manageable then.
 Not sure I'm up for that
quite yet though.



Per the suggestions made here, I added numerous message
boards and photo gallery categories and subs.  I did not go
into the granularity that I could have because the bbs
software is not exactly simple a filing system. The way
it'll work is that is, for
instance: Someone comes up with a solid service schedule
and posts it under that category.  A moderator will format
it and lock that message making it a 'sticky' note
that will always be at the top of any other messages. If it
needs to be updated, the moderator
just unlocks it and the original poster or the moderator
can update it. Then it gets re-stick-ified so it always
remains first on a search and first on the message list for
that topic.  



The photo organization will need conventions: any time
you post a message and include photos the decision needs to
be made whether or not that photo is just incidental to your
message (i.e. this is us sailing along with the dolphins) or
if it is substantial
to the group (i.e. here is the information plate from my
Leroy Somer Outhaul Motor).  
As I mentioned, there are several levels of the Photo
Gallery already so pictures can be sent to the appropriate
topic (and new ones made at any time). In addition,
individual members in good standing can create their own
galleries and just share them
to other board members.  Overall, I think the availability
of photos and documents will be better and easier to
organize than in the the Yahoo group, but until we actually
get some content going it's impossible to really see it.
 
I really like the idea of a naming convention and I
think the exhaustive description of the suggested
'directories and sub directories' could be
integrated in the file naming conventions.  I will come up
with some arbitrary conventions to start with and
they can evolve from there.  Ultimately there is no way to
enforce naming conventions prior to upload so it will will
be incumbent upon the membership to try and make it easy on
the rest of us.



I created separate categories for each model boat
(again). The beauty of a beta :)  I like the idea that the
format will be the same regardless of which model you own or
are doing research on. Specs, sailing notes, checklists,
parts sourcing and the whole
spectrum of needed information should be organized
identically for each model.  
Having said that, I have not created the sub-boards for
any models except Super Maramu/Super Maramu 2000 because
it's a bit of a time sink to do so and I await feedback
from the group on what is currently available.



If you have a chance, please have a look at the changes
and see what you think.



I could be ready to turn it on any time really.
I'll just need to make a 'last pull' of the
existing messages and make them available.



Thanks again for the suggestions and support.  Now,
who is the current moderator of the Yahoo board?  



and .. I need a couple of volunteers to try their hand
at the role of moderator :)  



Gary W.
s/v/ Adagio
Leverick Bay, VG BVI



 




---In amelyachtowners@..., <gary@...>
wrote :






I do have web space available and can carve out a standard
level PHP forum which would have the features we have been
missing.


What I don't know is if the commonly available platforms
will import from Yahoo. 


If it's something that the majority wants I'd be
willing to invest time to get it started then seek a couple
of folks to help moderate and administer it.


Have to wait till after Christmas tho :)
Gary W.

SM 209

S/V Adagio
From my DL750 Digicel
From my DL750 Digicel






















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Gary,

                     As something of a dinosaur in the tech world I am only just catching up on this. I tried to log onto www.amelowners.net but I need an activation email and  user name and password. Can you tell me how to get these ?

  Thanks for all your efforts, by the way. 


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Greece

www.amelowners.net
Amel Yacht Owners - Index




From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of gary@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 17 January 2016 21:55
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Changes to Yahoo
 


Greetings :)

Been a busy week for us as we had guests aboard and we playing tourist guide through the BVIs.  Not much chance to get anything done until yesterday but I was able to make some additions.

For your review:
All messages from the Yahoo board have been captured through yesterday. I can do that at will and append the document now.
I uploaded and made available all these messages in both .pdf and .html.  You can download them and own the entire Yahoo group dialogue from day one.  It is an immense document and searching it takes a long time on a slow machine.  I think the web document (.html) is faster. Someday, when someone has a week with nothing to do, it would be nice to trim out about 900,000 words of spurious html markup from all these messages.  I think the finished document would be quite manageable then.  Not sure I'm up for that quite yet though.

Per the suggestions made here, I added numerous message boards and photo gallery categories and subs.  I did not go into the granularity that I could have because the bbs software is not exactly simple a filing system. The way it'll work is that is, for instance: Someone comes up with a solid service schedule and posts it under that category.  A moderator will format it and lock that message making it a 'sticky' note that will always be at the top of any other messages. If it needs to be updated, the moderator just unlocks it and the original poster or the moderator can update it. Then it gets re-stick-ified so it always remains first on a search and first on the message list for that topic.  

The photo organization will need conventions: any time you post a message and include photos the decision needs to be made whether or not that photo is just incidental to your message (i.e. this is us sailing along with the dolphins) or if it is substantial to the group (i.e. here is the information plate from my Leroy Somer Outhaul Motor).  
As I mentioned, there are several levels of the Photo Gallery already so pictures can be sent to the appropriate topic (and new ones made at any time). In addition, individual members in good standing can create their own galleries and just share them to other board members.  Overall, I think the availability of photos and documents will be better and easier to organize than in the the Yahoo group, but until we actually get some content going it's impossible to really see it.  
I really like the idea of a naming convention and I think the exhaustive description of the suggested 'directories and sub directories' could be integrated in the file naming conventions.  I will come up with some arbitrary conventions to start with and they can evolve from there.  Ultimately there is no way to enforce naming conventions prior to upload so it will will be incumbent upon the membership to try and make it easy on the rest of us.

I created separate categories for each model boat (again). The beauty of a beta :)  I like the idea that the format will be the same regardless of which model you own or are doing research on. Specs, sailing notes, checklists, parts sourcing and the whole spectrum of needed information should be organized identically for each model.  
Having said that, I have not created the sub-boards for any models except Super Maramu/Super Maramu 2000 because it's a bit of a time sink to do so and I await feedback from the group on what is currently available.

If you have a chance, please have a look at the changes and see what you think.

I could be ready to turn it on any time really. I'll just need to make a 'last pull' of the existing messages and make them available.

Thanks again for the suggestions and support.  Now, who is the current moderator of the Yahoo board?  

and .. I need a couple of volunteers to try their hand at the role of moderator :)  

Gary W.
s/v/ Adagio
Leverick Bay, VG BVI

 


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :


I do have web space available and can carve out a standard level PHP forum which would have the features we have been missing.
What I don't know is if the commonly available platforms will import from Yahoo. 
If it's something that the majority wants I'd be willing to invest time to get it started then seek a couple of folks to help moderate and administer it.
Have to wait till after Christmas tho :)

Gary W.
SM 209
S/V Adagio

From my DL750 Digicel

From my DL750 Digicel