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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Ariston microwave tripping 230v panel main breaker

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The main breaker on the side of a SM breaker main panel is a circuit breaker and a GFS protection breaker. A short will trip it, or a Ground Fault.

Maybe you should research Ground Fault.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On Dec 9, 2016 5:52 PM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The microwave breaker is a high current circuit breaker. i.e. if the current flowing in that circuit exceeds its rating it will trip.

The main breaker on the side of the 220VAC panel box is an RCD (residual current device) or ELCB (Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker). These devices trip if there is an imbalance in the current flowing in the phase and neutral wires which can only mean that some current is going to ground.
If this breaker trips it means you have a ground fault in the AC circuit. If turning on the  microwave trips it, you have a ground fault in the microwave itself.
As Bill says, replace the whole unit, they are cheap enough these days !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437



Re: Ariston microwave tripping 230v panel main breaker

Alan Leslie
 

The microwave breaker is a high current circuit breaker. i.e. if the current flowing in that circuit exceeds its rating it will trip.
The main breaker on the side of the 220VAC panel box is an RCD (residual current device) or ELCB (Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker). These devices trip if there is an imbalance in the current flowing in the phase and neutral wires which can only mean that some current is going to ground.
If this breaker trips it means you have a ground fault in the AC circuit. If turning on the  microwave trips it, you have a ground fault in the microwave itself.
As Bill says, replace the whole unit, they are cheap enough these days !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Ariston microwave tripping 230v panel main breaker

Thomas Peacock
 

Not sure if I can answer the question, but it's obviously a major short. It's a different model than we have; does it trip the breaker regardless of setting (heating element versus microwave alone)?
As a separate issue, could others weigh in on the phenomenon of the microwave tripping the main 220 breaker, but not the Microwave breaker? We noticed a similar phenomenon when working on the AC, we shorted out a wire, the main breaker was thrown. We hypothesized that the Microwave switch on the 220 panel is not truly a breaker, but just a switch. Is this true?

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
St Augustine, Florida


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ariston microwave tripping 230v panel main breaker

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Derick,

My guess is that "someone" operated it on 220VAC 60htz power. I base my guess on my experience.

The solution is that, before you leave Martinique, buy a new 220VAC 50htz  microwave. Take all of your critical measurements with you and find the one you like. Many models will fit.

Best,

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 9, 2016 4:55 PM, "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My Ariston microwave has begun to trip the 230v panel main breaker (but interestingly not the microwave circuit breaker).  It has been reliable up to now.  It is the model number MW212K, type MW600, with 2800 watts for microwave and browning element, 850 watts for the microwave alone.


Has anyone else had this happen, and if so, what was the cause?  There are lots of spare parts listed on line, from capacitors to diodes to new windings, so it may be possible to fix. Once I get the case open, I hope to use the short to trace the problem, but then I have always been an optimist!

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
Brava
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique


Ariston microwave tripping 230v panel main breaker

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

My Ariston microwave has begun to trip the 230v panel main breaker (but interestingly not the microwave circuit breaker).  It has been reliable up to now.  It is the model number MW212K, type MW600, with 2800 watts for microwave and browning element, 850 watts for the microwave alone.

Has anyone else had this happen, and if so, what was the cause?  There are lots of spare parts listed on line, from capacitors to diodes to new windings, so it may be possible to fix. Once I get the case open, I hope to use the short to trace the problem, but then I have always been an optimist!

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
Brava
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

Barry Ferguson <seagasm@...>
 

Hi Colin, I am in Manly Brisbane if you need assistance, 0477652046

Barry & Robyn,
Tradewinds III SM 171



On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:59 PM +1000, "SV Island Pearl II colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Bill

I will get in touch with both Riza and Maud to see who can get me one quicker. May also try the local Mercedes parts guys here in Brisbane too, just in case.

Here in Brisbane it's full speed ahead with many boat tasks and the other projects completed today was a new water pump on the Onan, a new Quick 40L hot water system installed and a new rear bumper all of which I'm pleased to report were dead easy installs..... till the bilge pump issue! Our hot water system just needed a new element however after all the discussions here on the forum about these lasting 5 - 8 years max, and ours being a 2008 unit, we decided to bite the bullet at 8yrs age and start our cruise with a new one instead.

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:04 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Colin,

I had a hard time finding that part. The gear section of the pump is identical to a Mercedes Benz wiper mechanism, but I do not know what year and model. I had someone in Turkey replace the white Delrin gear and he told me that he found it in a Mercedes parts distributor.

I heard that Maud now has this part. Check with her at SAV"at"Amel.fr. I also heard that Riza at Emek Marin in Turkey has the part. Check with him at cagdas"at"emekmarin.com

Good luck.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 9, 2016 6:51 AM, "'Colin.d.streeter' colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323
Brisbane 


On 9 Dec 2016, at 10:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Wi th best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Absolutely, I should have mentioned the photo. Always give a clear description and a photo. Remember, you speak English, they speak French.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 9, 2016 2:21 PM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Colin, we had the same problem a year or two back. We got the part from Maud at Amel France. We find it helpful to send her a photo of any part we are ordering.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl




From: "'Colin.d.streeter' colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 9 December 2016 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 
We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323
Brisbane 


On 9 Dec 2016, at 1 0:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Jim,
 
I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.
 
Hope this helps.
 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Super Maramu 2000
Hull #275
www.creampuff.us
Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA
 
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement
 
 
Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware t hat they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.
Thank you,
Jim DeSalvo, SM#207
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Colin, we had the same problem a year or two back. We got the part from Maud at Amel France. We find it helpful to send her a photo of any part we are ordering.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl




From: "'Colin.d.streeter' colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, 9 December 2016 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 
We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323
Brisbane 


On 9 Dec 2016, at 10:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Jim,
 
I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.
 
Hope this helps.
 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Super Maramu 2000
Hull #275
Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement
 
 
Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.
Thank you,
Jim DeSalvo, SM#207
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu cockpit canopy

James Alton
 

Christian,

   Thank you for posting the diameter of the dodger cover plugs.  The plugs on my boat are a bit sunburnt so I would like to replace them as well.  During the interim I have been using the clear silicone as a stop gap solution which does seem to work.  My plan is to fabricate some new plugs using fibreglass with a protective gelcoat finish which should last the life of the boat.  Shouldn’t be too hard to make up a mold using a pc. of pipe.  We really like our Maramu!

James and Joann Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Arbatax,  Italy

On Dec 9, 2016, at 9:16 AM, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


no drawing, but had a look and repalced some of the plastic plugs (burn out)
those plugs 21mm dia. cover access to bolts which hold the cokpit hard top in place. 
they definetly need replacement when loose, or at least some sealant to avoid water ingress.
not easy to find similar items though; plastic plugs and clear silicone sealant do the trick on a temporary basis.
let me know if you find the supplier, I am still searching ...
fair wind
christian alby Maramu #168 Désirade VIII - sailing western mediterranea



De : "Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
À : amelyachtowners@... 
Envoyé le : Lundi 28 novembre 2016 22h24
Objet : [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu cockpit canopy

 
We're fairly naive Amelers and we've just noticed for the first time the 
sound of water sloshing from side to side in the forward base of the 
canopy over the cockpit in our Maramu. I notice that there are six 
plastic plugs along the forward surface of the base of the canopy and I 
imagine they may be for access to bolts that attach the canopy to the 
main superstructure but I have no evidence for that idea. We've had 
torrential rain for the past couple of weeks here in Barbados and I 
notice that one of the six plastic plugs is loose and it's possible that 
the rain got through.

Does anyone have diagrams or knowledge of how the canopy structure mates 
with the main superstructure or any experience of water ingress to that 
part?

With kind regards

Graham Cresswell

S/Y Jamesby
Maramu #240





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu cockpit canopy

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

no drawing, but had a look and repalced some of the plastic plugs (burn out)
those plugs 21mm dia. cover access to bolts which hold the cokpit hard top in place. 
they definetly need replacement when loose, or at least some sealant to avoid water ingress.
not easy to find similar items though; plastic plugs and clear silicone sealant do the trick on a temporary basis.
let me know if you find the supplier, I am still searching ...
fair wind
christian alby Maramu #168 Désirade VIII - sailing western mediterranea



De : "Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners]"
À : amelyachtowners@...
Envoyé le : Lundi 28 novembre 2016 22h24
Objet : [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu cockpit canopy

 
We're fairly naive Amelers and we've just noticed for the first time the
sound of water sloshing from side to side in the forward base of the
canopy over the cockpit in our Maramu. I notice that there are six
plastic plugs along the forward surface of the base of the canopy and I
imagine they may be for access to bolts that attach the canopy to the
main superstructure but I have no evidence for that idea. We've had
torrential rain for the past couple of weeks here in Barbados and I
notice that one of the six plastic plugs is loose and it's possible that
the rain got through.

Does anyone have diagrams or knowledge of how the canopy structure mates
with the main superstructure or any experience of water ingress to that
part?

With kind regards

Graham Cresswell

S/Y Jamesby
Maramu #240



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Thanks Bill

I will get in touch with both Riza and Maud to see who can get me one quicker. May also try the local Mercedes parts guys here in Brisbane too, just in case.

Here in Brisbane it's full speed ahead with many boat tasks and the other projects completed today was a new water pump on the Onan, a new Quick 40L hot water system installed and a new rear bumper all of which I'm pleased to report were dead easy installs..... till the bilge pump issue! Our hot water system just needed a new element however after all the discussions here on the forum about these lasting 5 - 8 years max, and ours being a 2008 unit, we decided to bite the bullet at 8yrs age and start our cruise with a new one instead.

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:04 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Colin,

I had a hard time finding that part. The gear section of the pump is identical to a Mercedes Benz wiper mechanism, but I do not know what year and model. I had someone in Turkey replace the white Delrin gear and he told me that he found it in a Mercedes parts distributor.

I heard that Maud now has this part. Check with her at SAV"at"Amel.fr. I also heard that Riza at Emek Marin in Turkey has the part. Check with him at cagdas"at"emekmarin.com

Good luck.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 9, 2016 6:51 AM, "'Colin.d.streeter' colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323
Brisbane 


On 9 Dec 2016, at 10:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Wi th best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Colin,

I had a hard time finding that part. The gear section of the pump is identical to a Mercedes Benz wiper mechanism, but I do not know what year and model. I had someone in Turkey replace the white Delrin gear and he told me that he found it in a Mercedes parts distributor.

I heard that Maud now has this part. Check with her at SAV"at"Amel.fr. I also heard that Riza at Emek Marin in Turkey has the part. Check with him at cagdas"at"emekmarin.com

Good luck.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 9, 2016 6:51 AM, "'Colin.d.streeter' colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323
Brisbane 


On 9 Dec 2016, at 10:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Wi th best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323
Brisbane 


On 9 Dec 2016, at 10:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

Mark Erdos
 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 


Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

linda.desalvo
 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Charging AGM batteries

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

This is why you should check with the battery manufacturer for charging specifications!  Flooded batteries are pretty much all the same, but AGM varies depending on the details of internal construction.  A few tenths of a volt DO matter in the long run, especially if the batteries are on float a lot.

I just installed a Victron controller with my solar panels. None of the preprogrammed settings were suitable, I needed the "Bluetooth dongle" which allows exact programming of each step of the charging process through your computer or mobile device.

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL
We're floating again!


On Dec 8, 2016, at 17:43, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul,


Bill Kinney reports his AGMs are to float at 26.6V (i.e. 13.3V).  

Trojan sternly warned my AGMs need to float at 27V (i.e. 13.5V) and not more, at 25 °C; less voltage at warmer battery temperatures.  Furthermore, my Trojans call for Bulk and Absorption at 28.8, with an absolute maximum of 29.4.

I discovered that neither of my Mastervolt chargers (100A, 30A) nor the Mastervolt alternator regulator offer factory settings that match the Trojan specifications; however, Mastervolt allows the user to use a PC (or a Mac) to program exact voltages as required by Trojan.  

I believe the same capability programming capability exists on Victron.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K Nr. 350 (2002)
Venice




---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Thanks for the replies. It seems that the float level of 13.6v is the general consensus. My chargers, Dolphin, which came with the boat, do not have a specific AGM setting. The nearest one is for "sealed lead" which gives 13.6v float but only 14.2v maximum whereas the West Marine website says that AGMs should take 14.7v max. So I guess I'll go with that unless someone advises otherwise.
Cheers,
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Charging AGM batteries

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Paul,

Bill Kinney reports his AGMs are to float at 26.6V (i.e. 13.3V).  

Trojan sternly warned my AGMs need to float at 27V (i.e. 13.5V) and not more, at 25 °C; less voltage at warmer battery temperatures.  Furthermore, my Trojans call for Bulk and Absorption at 28.8, with an absolute maximum of 29.4.

I discovered that neither of my Mastervolt chargers (100A, 30A) nor the Mastervolt alternator regulator offer factory settings that match the Trojan specifications; however, Mastervolt allows the user to use a PC (or a Mac) to program exact voltages as required by Trojan.  

I believe the same capability programming capability exists on Victron.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K Nr. 350 (2002)
Venice




---In amelyachtowners@..., <sharongbrown@...> wrote :

Thanks for the replies. It seems that the float level of 13.6v is the general consensus. My chargers, Dolphin, which came with the boat, do not have a specific AGM setting. The nearest one is for "sealed lead" which gives 13.6v float but only 14.2v maximum whereas the West Marine website says that AGMs should take 14.7v max. So I guess I'll go with that unless someone advises otherwise.
Cheers,
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Charging AGM batteries

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Amel installed a Leece Neville 175 amp 24VDC alternator as an option on BeBe 387.

When I was considering going to AGM, I contacted Leece Neville. They told me that the alternator would need to be modified and a smart external regulator added if I wanted to change to AGMs. They said that the alternator would work, but that I would not get the life that is expected with AGMs.

Best,

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 8, 2016 6:14 PM, "Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I don't know about your alternator. 

We have the 60amp internally regulated unit, not the larger one that was a commonly factory installed option. 

It runs at 26.6 or 26.7 volts maximum. Not high enough to upset even AGM batteries. But not high enough to really charge them efficiently either. 

We don't usually run our engine long enough to put significant charge into the batteries. 

Bill Kinney
Fort Lauderdale, FL
FLOATING AGAIN!





On Dec 8, 2016, at 14:29, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

How about the 24 volt alternator on the engine?
What Voltage does it give?
Is it appropriate for AGM batterie?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 12/8/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Charging AGM batteries
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2016, 11:12 AM


 









Because of their internal
construction a full on classic thermal runaway is MUCH less
likely to occur with good agm batteries. Lifeline claims
they have never heard of it happening to their batteries.
You can however, melt them down if the voltage is too high
for too long causing the electrolyte to boil
off. 
Monitoring is
simple. Fully charge, disconnect the charge and load, and
then check voltage after a bit of time to rest. A shorted
cell will quickly pull the voltage for that one battery down
to 10.5. Otherwise, capacity testing and such can be the
same as a flooded battery. 
You'll also see a bad cell in
your charging amps at full charge. They'll never drop
down to the 0.3 amps or so that they should at the correct
float voltage when the batteries are full. 
Bill Kinney

On Dec 8,
2016, at 11:27, Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Wow! You were lucky you didn't have a
fire. I don't know the charge settings for AGM
batteries, but whenever you hook your new batteries up you
need to monitor the 30 amp charger closely. It's
entirely possible that you have a fault in your charger.
 This is just another example of why it is so important to
monitor your batteries closely. With AGM's I don't
know how you can monitor the batteries like you would
specific gravity in a flooded lead acid battery. I would
like to hear about this.
Since my last battery
mishap, I have quit leaving my charger on constantly while I
am off the boat. I have instead hired someone to come aboard
once a week to flush the Watermaker membranes and top the
batteries up with a 2 hour charge.

Kent
Sent from my
iPad
On Dec 8, 2016, at 9:47 AM,
sharongbrown@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Hi,
I just came back to my boat
after three months and found that my entire bank of 12 AGM
batteries melted. I had left the 30A charger running. I am
in the processing of replacing them with new AGM batteries
(can't get anything else where I am in Grenada). I have
an Amel 54 #98 with Dolphin 100A and 30A chargers. Would
someone be able to advise which is the correct charge
setting I should  use on these chargers for charging AGM
batteries?
Thanks,PaulS/Y
Ya Fohi Amel 54 
































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Charging AGM batteries

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

I don't know about your alternator. 

We have the 60amp internally regulated unit, not the larger one that was a commonly factory installed option. 

It runs at 26.6 or 26.7 volts maximum. Not high enough to upset even AGM batteries. But not high enough to really charge them efficiently either. 

We don't usually run our engine long enough to put significant charge into the batteries. 

Bill Kinney
Fort Lauderdale, FL
FLOATING AGAIN!





On Dec 8, 2016, at 14:29, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

How about the 24 volt alternator on the engine?
What Voltage does it give?
Is it appropriate for AGM batterie?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 12/8/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Charging AGM batteries
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2016, 11:12 AM


 









Because of their internal
construction a full on classic thermal runaway is MUCH less
likely to occur with good agm batteries. Lifeline claims
they have never heard of it happening to their batteries.
You can however, melt them down if the voltage is too high
for too long causing the electrolyte to boil
off. 
Monitoring is
simple. Fully charge, disconnect the charge and load, and
then check voltage after a bit of time to rest. A shorted
cell will quickly pull the voltage for that one battery down
to 10.5. Otherwise, capacity testing and such can be the
same as a flooded battery. 
You'll also see a bad cell in
your charging amps at full charge. They'll never drop
down to the 0.3 amps or so that they should at the correct
float voltage when the batteries are full. 
Bill Kinney

On Dec 8,
2016, at 11:27, Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Wow! You were lucky you didn't have a
fire. I don't know the charge settings for AGM
batteries, but whenever you hook your new batteries up you
need to monitor the 30 amp charger closely. It's
entirely possible that you have a fault in your charger.
 This is just another example of why it is so important to
monitor your batteries closely. With AGM's I don't
know how you can monitor the batteries like you would
specific gravity in a flooded lead acid battery. I would
like to hear about this.
Since my last battery
mishap, I have quit leaving my charger on constantly while I
am off the boat. I have instead hired someone to come aboard
once a week to flush the Watermaker membranes and top the
batteries up with a 2 hour charge.

Kent
Sent from my
iPad
On Dec 8, 2016, at 9:47 AM,
sharongbrown@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Hi,
I just came back to my boat
after three months and found that my entire bank of 12 AGM
batteries melted. I had left the 30A charger running. I am
in the processing of replacing them with new AGM batteries
(can't get anything else where I am in Grenada). I have
an Amel 54 #98 with Dolphin 100A and 30A chargers. Would
someone be able to advise which is the correct charge
setting I should  use on these chargers for charging AGM
batteries?
Thanks,PaulS/Y
Ya Fohi Amel 54 
































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Charging AGM batteries

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

I am certainly no expert, but every Amel battery bank melt-down that I am familiar with was caused by an internal short in a single battery in the battery bank.

I think that you will find it worthwhile to purchase a digital battery tester and test yout batteries on a regular basis. There are many owners in this Group that have done that and support the concept.

Although it could be your charges or regulators, either solar, or conventional battery charger...the chances are that a single cell in one battery caused your problem. Each of your batteries has 6 cells times 12 batteries is 72 cells, so you understand the possibility!

If I had not sold BeBe, I would be looking at a thermal activated switch that would measure the temperature inside the battery compartment and turn off the charger at a preset temperature. Switches like this are used in commercial refrigeration, heating and air conditioning. Surely some technically inclined Amel owner will try this. It is especially workable since most SMs and 54s have an enclosed battery compartment.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On Dec 8, 2016 4:44 PM, "sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Alexandra,

That is indeed something which should also be checked, but the overheating happened when the boat was out of the water so I do not think it was the cause.

Another possibility is the solar panels. I'm not sure what kind of regulators they have.

Cheers,
Paul