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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Grounding

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you!
Do you or anyone else know where the thick  (the thickest of man yellow and green ca 8 mm in diameter) yellow and green ground cable ends? it goes from a ground point behind the chart table after on starboard side and dissiperar  through the last bulkhead in to the after lasarett, then I have not yet been able to trace where it goes. But can it be connected with the copper ground strip for the SSB radio? or the zink anode?
According to one manual i found on the forum 
"the SM 2000 has got in standard two ground plates on the rudder, used by the SSB system. If the boat hasen't got any SSB theses ground plates are connected to the zink anodes. When setting up a SSB, disconnect the ground plates of the anodes (behind the chart table)"
I guess the thick yellow and green ground is connected with either the ground plates or the Zink anodes.
Any light on this subject is highly apreciated
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM2K #259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Grounding

eric freedman
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Micro wave on Amel 54

ms42phantom54@...
 

Not sure, but I think I have the same unit. Does it have twist knobs versus electronic buttons?
Is there something you need from the manual? I might be able to scan. It is not a full-size manual.
Jamie

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Micro wave on Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 

Jamie,

Thank you - it is called FAGOR MW-MW3 176G.

Does that help.

is there an electronic manual I can download from somewhere?

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Travelling West in the Caribbean

On 15 Jan 2016, at 14:27, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I do, but it depends on which microwave you have.
Jamie Wendell
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54


On Friday, January 15, 2016 10:46 AM, "Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Does anyone have a manual for operating the microwave on the Amel 54?

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Travelling West in the Caribbean





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Micro wave on Amel 54

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

I do, but it depends on which microwave you have.
Jamie Wendell
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54


On Friday, January 15, 2016 10:46 AM, "Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Does anyone have a manual for operating the microwave on the Amel 54?

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Travelling West in the Caribbean



Micro wave on Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 

Does anyone have a manual for operating the microwave on the Amel 54?

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Travelling West in the Caribbean

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fakir Heater Manual

karkauai
 

That's what I thought, thanks Richard.
Kent 


On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent the run on high heaters are the combo AC/heating units with Ele heat. Those fans MUST run on hi to keep the elements from melting/blowing their internal fuse. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:23, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I remember reading on this forum that the electric heaters should only be run on the High fan setting.  Is that correct?  If so, your plan to run all 3 on low may not be a good idea.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:55 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you all for your suggestions! I have contacted Fakir and they are actually working with a company they distribute to in Kansas to see if they can import 2 new units for me. In the mean time does anyone have a source they can share to purchase the new Fakir Hobby S in the US? I have possibly found a happy medium in the meantime. By running all 3 heaters at once in the low setting I have been managing to keep the boat at 64 throughout the boat on the cold nights. I am big into having a backup for everything so finding a replacement heater source would be greatly appreciated. For the record, I ordered an oil filled 220 radiator and it does not perform the way I would like it too. Might be good to maintain an above freezing temperature when away.  Save your money. 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fakir Heater Manual

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Kent the run on high heaters are the combo AC/heating units with Ele heat. Those fans MUST run on hi to keep the elements from melting/blowing their internal fuse. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Jan 15, 2016, at 10:23, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I remember reading on this forum that the electric heaters should only be run on the High fan setting.  Is that correct?  If so, your plan to run all 3 on low may not be a good idea.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:55 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you all for your suggestions! I have contacted Fakir and they are actually working with a company they distribute to in Kansas to see if they can import 2 new units for me. In the mean time does anyone have a source they can share to purchase the new Fakir Hobby S in the US? I have possibly found a happy medium in the meantime. By running all 3 heaters at once in the low setting I have been managing to keep the boat at 64 throughout the boat on the cold nights. I am big into having a backup for everything so finding a replacement heater source would be greatly appreciated. For the record, I ordered an oil filled 220 radiator and it does not perform the way I would like it too. Might be good to maintain an above freezing temperature when away.  Save your money. 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fakir Heater Manual

karkauai
 

I remember reading on this forum that the electric heaters should only be run on the High fan setting.  Is that correct?  If so, your plan to run all 3 on low may not be a good idea.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:55 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you all for your suggestions! I have contacted Fakir and they are actually working with a company they distribute to in Kansas to see if they can import 2 new units for me. In the mean time does anyone have a source they can share to purchase the new Fakir Hobby S in the US? I have possibly found a happy medium in the meantime. By running all 3 heaters at once in the low setting I have been managing to keep the boat at 64 throughout the boat on the cold nights. I am big into having a backup for everything so finding a replacement heater source would be greatly appreciated. For the record, I ordered an oil filled 220 radiator and it does not perform the way I would like it too. Might be good to maintain an above freezing temperature when away.  Save your money. 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fakir Heater Manual

william_maffei@...
 

Thank you all for your suggestions! I have contacted Fakir and they are actually working with a company they distribute to in Kansas to see if they can import 2 new units for me. In the mean time does anyone have a source they can share to purchase the new Fakir Hobby S in the US? I have possibly found a happy medium in the meantime. By running all 3 heaters at once in the low setting I have been managing to keep the boat at 64 throughout the boat on the cold nights. I am big into having a backup for everything so finding a replacement heater source would be greatly appreciated. For the record, I ordered an oil filled 220 radiator and it does not perform the way I would like it too. Might be good to maintain an above freezing temperature when away.  Save your money. 

Re: Photo of 24v relays on sy/Kerpa

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Hi Paul,
Since they are 24v relays it is unlikely they are actually after the 24-->12v converter, as that would put them in the 12v circuit and they would not function.  Probably well enough left alone until you need to know.
Cheers,
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote :

Thank you Craig!
They are after the "permanent" 24 v 12 v DC DC Converter, I don't know why, and maybe not important, but good to know when in future fault finding.
Paul
SY Kerpa SM #259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: electrolysis on mast/boom connection

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul. I connected with grub screws and wire all of the boom, bolts, block and mast. Didn't seem to help.  I considered grounding it, ie connecting it to the boats grounding circuit system that is linked to the rudder zinks but was unsure about poking  that much current into the system. But the Zink on the mast, sounds good. Would it work? guess it should. Why don't I think of simple solutions like that.
I have had recommended a product called duralac to use between and stainless/alloy contact points. I too have a voltage between the small screws on the mast and the mast but no or very little corrosion around those points.
Thanks
Danny
 



From: "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2016 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: electrolysis on mast/boom connection

 
I will try to remove the bolt and clean out eventual crust or what ever I will find, then apply some Tef-Tec, I hope that will solve the issue. If that not work i will, I consider to put a ground wire to the bolt, and or put a zink anod on the mast.
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: electrolysis on mast/boom connection

Paul Osterberg
 

I will try to remove the bolt and clean out eventual crust or what ever I will find, then apply some Tef-Tec, I hope that will solve the issue. If that not work i will, I consider to put a ground wire to the bolt, and or put a zink anod on the mast.
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: electrolysis on mast/boom connection

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul, thanks for this.. Do you think the potential will remain low after turning? or will it go back up again. I found 0.5 volt potential between the vertical bolt and the alloy block it goes through.(it has been as high as 0.7) I removed them and found still the 0.5 volt between the vertical bolt and the block while they were totally isolated from any thing else. There has never been potential between the horizontal bolt and anything else. After sitting on my bench overnight the differential was 0.2. I have just been experimenting and found moving the bolt changed the volts. The bolt is the positive.
It was interesting that the voltage remained when the block and bolt were totally isolated.
The question is whether this is what is causing the electrolysis on the plate on the mast. The same potential exists between the vertical bolt and the mast. The next question...what to do about it?
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl 



From: "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2016 3:48 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: electrolysis on mast/boom connection

 
Danny
After turning the vertical bolt holding the boom a few turns the potential difference went down from 0,4 V to 5 mV, I will try to remove the bolt and apply Tef-Tec to it, but it's rather hard work to turn it, but 5 mV much better than 400 mV. I also notice some potential difference (5-20 mV) between the smal screws holding the "folded cover" for the slot in the mast, Can be worth measuring other areas where SS and aluminum are bonded together
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259 


Re: Photo of 24v relays on sy/Kerpa

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Craig!
They are after the "permanent" 24 v 12 v DC DC Converter, I don't know why, and maybe not important, but good to know when in future fault finding.
Paul
SY Kerpa SM #259

Re: electrolysis on mast/boom connection

Paul Osterberg
 

Danny
After turning the vertical bolt holding the boom a few turns the potential difference went down from 0,4 V to 5 mV, I will try to remove the bolt and apply Tef-Tec to it, but it's rather hard work to turn it, but 5 mV much better than 400 mV. I also notice some potential difference (5-20 mV) between the smal screws holding the "folded cover" for the slot in the mast, Can be worth measuring other areas where SS and aluminum are bonded together
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259 

Photo of 24v relays on sy/Kerpa

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Hi Paul,

I see you posted new photos this morning and asked what the devices are - those are 24v relays.  Someone has written on them noting one is negative and one is positive so whatever device it is controlling is being electrically isolated when it is off.  You can figure out what device is being controlled by operating your switches one at a time and listening or feeling the relays to see if they click in with the given switch.  I'd guess it may be your engine room fan(s) - if so it is likely activated by the ignition switch.  Let us know what you find.

Cheers, Craig s/v Sangaris

Re: Fw: Leroy Somer outhaul motor.

n33077@...
 

There is a company in Easton MD that rebuilds electric motors.  I just had my 3 electric furlerer motors rebuilt there at a most reasonable cost. 
PASCO
8538 Ocean Gateway
Easton, MD 21601

Ryan Gaultney
410 820 7111

I have a much older electric furling system than most for my Sharki (#163 1988),  I called Amel and they reported they no longer support such a system.  I could find replacement motors but they did not seem as heavy duty as my old ones. I elected to re-build mine $830 total for all 3.

I also ordered new Bonfiglioli worm gears to replace my mast and boom furlers,  VF-44.

At present I have the assemblies at the paint shop getting ready to paint....then re-assemble.

Aras
Sharki #163, 1988

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Grounding

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Paul,

It is indeed the ground cable.  

I am not on the boat now but can assure you that something is attached to it.  It may be the ATU or the antenna.. not sure..

GL

JPG



On 14 Jan 2016, at 10:59, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Jean-Pierre

It's the Copper band protruding for ca 10 cm before it's "disappear" again into the hull.
Now I can't find any cable attached to it, and assume just to hook up a SSB Ground cable to it?
However according to the Manual there should be a "normal" ground cable to disengage but can't find any
Any one who know?
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Grounding

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Jean-Pierre
It's the Copper band protruding for ca 10 cm before it's "disappear" again into the hull.
Now I can't find any cable attached to it, and assume just to hook up a SSB Ground cable to it?
However according to the Manual there should be a "normal" ground cable to disengage but can't find any
Any one who know?
Paul